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Re: Office 365 with NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Of course, and you can expect to get updates for it till 2026…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

I know I won’t  move from 2016 to 2019 or 365,  but I will continue to get updates to 2016.

2016 is not dead,  it is still alive in the software world.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: May-13-20 7:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Yes, you wont get 2019 or 365 automatically, you will stay with 2016. With a 365 subscription you always get the newest release of Office.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

I have Office 2016,  it gets updates at no extra cost.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of heaven.lists92@...
Sent: May-13-20 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Dear Denis

 

The main advantage of Microsoft 365 is that Office stays up-to-date at no extra cost.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Re: Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Oops, typo. I ment NVDA-numpad-8

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hello ,

When you are stuck with the ok and cancel buttons, go up 1 level with NVDA-numpad-7 and explore the screen. I’m sure you will then find what you are looking for.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hello Ralf,

 

Thanks for the advice. My progress bar is set correctly so it does read the progress randomly. I tried to use the screen and object review in Defender with no success.  Objec review only focuses the cursor on the “cancel button” and screen review only says “blank.”

 

I will give it a try again though.

 

Have a wonderful evening.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hi Morné,

  1. Make sure progressbar announcement is enabled, hit NVDA-U to adjust it to your needs. By the way, for me object and screen navigation are working properly in this window.
  2. I have a super speed when composing mails in Outlook 365, maybe it helps to disable some document related items like spell checking and pages in the NVDA document formatting . You can get there with NVDA-Control-D

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:32
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hello list,

 

I am running the latest versions of both Windows 10 and NVDA.

 

When a virus scan with Windows Defender is being performed, NVDA does not read the progress bar of the scan.  Is there a way to read the progress bar since object and screen review do not work.

 

Lastly, why is NVDA sluggish when typing in Microsoft 365? While I am typing this email, NVDA gets way behind my typing speed.

 

Kind regards to all and stay healthy.

 

Morné


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

Gene
 

I would think that, considering the legitimagte places to get Office cheaply, that subscribing for a monthly fee may be considerably more costly over time.  Unless you need the most current version for some reason, the subscription model seems like a bad deal to me. 
 
Those who know the prices of buying Office and subscribing to it may be able to give examples of cost
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

I know I won’t  move from 2016 to 2019 or 365,  but I will continue to get updates to 2016.

2016 is not dead,  it is still alive in the software world.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: May-13-20 7:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Yes, you wont get 2019 or 365 automatically, you will stay with 2016. With a 365 subscription you always get the newest release of Office.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

I have Office 2016,  it gets updates at no extra cost.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of heaven.lists92@...
Sent: May-13-20 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Dear Denis

 

The main advantage of Microsoft 365 is that Office stays up-to-date at no extra cost.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Re: Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello ,

When you are stuck with the ok and cancel buttons, go up 1 level with NVDA-numpad-7 and explore the screen. I’m sure you will then find what you are looking for.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hello Ralf,

 

Thanks for the advice. My progress bar is set correctly so it does read the progress randomly. I tried to use the screen and object review in Defender with no success.  Objec review only focuses the cursor on the “cancel button” and screen review only says “blank.”

 

I will give it a try again though.

 

Have a wonderful evening.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hi Morné,

  1. Make sure progressbar announcement is enabled, hit NVDA-U to adjust it to your needs. By the way, for me object and screen navigation are working properly in this window.
  2. I have a super speed when composing mails in Outlook 365, maybe it helps to disable some document related items like spell checking and pages in the NVDA document formatting . You can get there with NVDA-Control-D

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:32
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hello list,

 

I am running the latest versions of both Windows 10 and NVDA.

 

When a virus scan with Windows Defender is being performed, NVDA does not read the progress bar of the scan.  Is there a way to read the progress bar since object and screen review do not work.

 

Lastly, why is NVDA sluggish when typing in Microsoft 365? While I am typing this email, NVDA gets way behind my typing speed.

 

Kind regards to all and stay healthy.

 

Morné


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

Monte Single
 

I know I won’t  move from 2016 to 2019 or 365,  but I will continue to get updates to 2016.

2016 is not dead,  it is still alive in the software world.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: May-13-20 7:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Yes, you wont get 2019 or 365 automatically, you will stay with 2016. With a 365 subscription you always get the newest release of Office.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

I have Office 2016,  it gets updates at no extra cost.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of heaven.lists92@...
Sent: May-13-20 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Dear Denis

 

The main advantage of Microsoft 365 is that Office stays up-to-date at no extra cost.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Can the "highlight browse mode cursor" feature be customized (color)?

glen.walker@...
 

It's nice that the "focus highlight" addon is implemented directly in NVDA now, as of 2019.3.  Github issue 9064 notes, "The current highlighter colors might be difficult for some people to see. In the future, I'd like this to be configurable."

Having the color configurable in the settings dialog is obviously ideal but in the meantime is there a config file somewhere that could be manually changed to control the color?  Specifically, the browse mode cursor is a yellow rectangle by default.  Since many webpages have a white background, the yellow is difficult to see (as noted in github).  I'm hoping the highlight colors aren't hardcoded into the app but rather come from a config file.


Re: Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

Morne van der Merwe
 

Hello Ralf,

 

Thanks for the advice. My progress bar is set correctly so it does read the progress randomly. I tried to use the screen and object review in Defender with no success.  Objec review only focuses the cursor on the “cancel button” and screen review only says “blank.”

 

I will give it a try again though.

 

Have a wonderful evening.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 15:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hi Morné,

  1. Make sure progressbar announcement is enabled, hit NVDA-U to adjust it to your needs. By the way, for me object and screen navigation are working properly in this window.
  2. I have a super speed when composing mails in Outlook 365, maybe it helps to disable some document related items like spell checking and pages in the NVDA document formatting . You can get there with NVDA-Control-D

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:32
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hello list,

 

I am running the latest versions of both Windows 10 and NVDA.

 

When a virus scan with Windows Defender is being performed, NVDA does not read the progress bar of the scan.  Is there a way to read the progress bar since object and screen review do not work.

 

Lastly, why is NVDA sluggish when typing in Microsoft 365? While I am typing this email, NVDA gets way behind my typing speed.

 

Kind regards to all and stay healthy.

 

Morné


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Yes, you wont get 2019 or 365 automatically, you will stay with 2016. With a 365 subscription you always get the newest release of Office.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

I have Office 2016,  it gets updates at no extra cost.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of heaven.lists92@...
Sent: May-13-20 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Dear Denis

 

The main advantage of Microsoft 365 is that Office stays up-to-date at no extra cost.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Re: Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hi Morné,

  1. Make sure progressbar announcement is enabled, hit NVDA-U to adjust it to your needs. By the way, for me object and screen navigation are working properly in this window.
  2. I have a super speed when composing mails in Outlook 365, maybe it helps to disable some document related items like spell checking and pages in the NVDA document formatting . You can get there with NVDA-Control-D

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Morne van der Merwe
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:32
To: NVDA <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

 

Hello list,

 

I am running the latest versions of both Windows 10 and NVDA.

 

When a virus scan with Windows Defender is being performed, NVDA does not read the progress bar of the scan.  Is there a way to read the progress bar since object and screen review do not work.

 

Lastly, why is NVDA sluggish when typing in Microsoft 365? While I am typing this email, NVDA gets way behind my typing speed.

 

Kind regards to all and stay healthy.

 

Morné


Re: NVDA and Excel problem

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Quentin,

I commented an issue and uploaded an example workbook.

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5012

 

cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 07:44
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel problem

 

Here's an issue for this:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10401

 

Ralf - there are a couple of issues with drop-down lists in Excel that I know of (this one, I thought was newish, but there is one with lists not reading in Excel 2013 specifically, and another one for items in drop down lists being read out twice which is also still present).  If your issue is among those then hopefully its scope is captured there, otherwise do let us know what you are experiencing to make sure we are aware of it).

 

For this particular bug, pressing ALT twice is one way of overcoming it (or alt+tab twice as suggested elsewhere).

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:49 AM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

The problem with dropdown cells is valid since years…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Mai 2020 17:18
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Excel problrm

 

Hello all,

I am facing some issues with latest NVDA and Excel 2016.

If i open any drop down list and select any content from list, after that NVDA stops speaking after pressing down right left arrow or tab.

It becomes speakable again when i switch program using Alt plus tab and come back to excel.

Another issue sometime NVDA stops speaking in excel without above problem. Switching focus back to excel required

Thanks
Ramesh patil


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

Morne van der Merwe
 

Hello Denis,

 

Just for interest:  Office 365’s name has changed at the beginning of May to Microsoft 365.  I can really recommend it because you are always up to date with the newest features and updates.

 

I don’t know where you live, but in South Africa, a Microsoft package can be very expensive.  For me to pay a small amount per month for 365 is more cost effective.  So another advantage is that it will not hurt your wallet.

 

Take care

 

Morné

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of heaven.lists92@...
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 14:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Dear Denis

 

The main advantage of Microsoft 365 is that Office stays up-to-date at no extra cost.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

Monte Single
 

Hi,

 

I have Office 2016,  it gets updates at no extra cost.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of heaven.lists92@...
Sent: May-13-20 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Dear Denis

 

The main advantage of Microsoft 365 is that Office stays up-to-date at no extra cost.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

heaven.lists92@...
 

Dear Denis

 

The main advantage of Microsoft 365 is that Office stays up-to-date at no extra cost.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Progress bar does not read in Windows Defender

Morne van der Merwe
 

Hello list,

 

I am running the latest versions of both Windows 10 and NVDA.

 

When a virus scan with Windows Defender is being performed, NVDA does not read the progress bar of the scan.  Is there a way to read the progress bar since object and screen review do not work.

 

Lastly, why is NVDA sluggish when typing in Microsoft 365? While I am typing this email, NVDA gets way behind my typing speed.

 

Kind regards to all and stay healthy.

 

Morné


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Dennis,

I wrote a piece about this for our In-process blog back in 2019.  The issues and considerations are basically still the same now: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-11th-september-2018/

Quentin.

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:48 PM Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA and Excel problem

Quentin Christensen
 

Here's an issue for this:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10401

Ralf - there are a couple of issues with drop-down lists in Excel that I know of (this one, I thought was newish, but there is one with lists not reading in Excel 2013 specifically, and another one for items in drop down lists being read out twice which is also still present).  If your issue is among those then hopefully its scope is captured there, otherwise do let us know what you are experiencing to make sure we are aware of it).

For this particular bug, pressing ALT twice is one way of overcoming it (or alt+tab twice as suggested elsewhere).

Quentin.

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:49 AM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:

The problem with dropdown cells is valid since years…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Mai 2020 17:18
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Excel problrm

 

Hello all,

I am facing some issues with latest NVDA and Excel 2016.

If i open any drop down list and select any content from list, after that NVDA stops speaking after pressing down right left arrow or tab.

It becomes speakable again when i switch program using Alt plus tab and come back to excel.

Another issue sometime NVDA stops speaking in excel without above problem. Switching focus back to excel required

Thanks
Ramesh patil



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Office 365 with NVDA

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Re: NVDA Systematic Crash

Luke Davis
 

Vlad

You need to start re-enabling one add-on at a time, then check after the next log in whether it's working. When it fails, you'll know which add-on is causing it.

If you find one that causes it, disable that one again, and enable some other one, and see if it continues. Then you'll have a good idea where the problem is.

Also, get the Add-on Updater add-on if you don't have it already, to make sure all your add-ons are on the latest versions.

Luke

On Tue, 12 May 2020, Vlad Dragomir wrote:

Thanks once more Joseph. I did just that. Result: with no add-ons enabled, everything’s perfect, no crash at all. With only a few add-ons enabled, the crash
happens but later in time, about two minutes after logon, and it’s independent of what I am doing. With all add-ons enabled, it happens right after logon,
just after NVDA starts for the first time and says “taskbar”. I suppose this is complicated, maybe I should learn to live with it, I’ve bothered you enough
already. Thousands of thanks indeed!


Re: NVDA and Excel problem

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

The problem with dropdown cells is valid since years…

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ramesh Patil
Sent: Dienstag, 12. Mai 2020 17:18
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Excel problrm

 

Hello all,

I am facing some issues with latest NVDA and Excel 2016.

If i open any drop down list and select any content from list, after that NVDA stops speaking after pressing down right left arrow or tab.

It becomes speakable again when i switch program using Alt plus tab and come back to excel.

Another issue sometime NVDA stops speaking in excel without above problem. Switching focus back to excel required

Thanks
Ramesh patil


Re: New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later

Isaac Porat
 

Hi


Firstly indeed you can mute the NVDA speech manually, with the add-on you don't need to think about it.

If you interact with SpeakOn using the Standard keyboard NVDA might speak when SpeakOn has the focus depending on your general configuration of NVDA (key press echo etc).


A very attractive way to interact with SpeakOn is using the Numpad; only 11 keys are required and one can use the numpad from the main keyboard, a USB numpad and even a wireless one. SpeakOn uses the numbers and you don't want NVDA speaking when you operate the keys, indeed you can do this manually.


A third way You can interact with SpeakOn is using the touch screen on your laptop or tablet (if you are prepared to learn its gestures).

If you do that, you must use the add-on otherwise NVDA gets the input from the screen and the SpeakOn touch gestures don't work.

The alternative is to switch Off NVDA which is of course a pain.


I hope the purpose of the add-on is now clear.


Regards

Isaac

On 12/05/2020 18:36, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi David,

What I use is the sleep mode keystroke.  It is a toggle insert + shift + S to turn speech on/off as you move from program to program if necessary.

On 5/12/2020 10:53 AM, David Griffith wrote:
The main benefit of the addon is that it automatically mutes and unmutes NVDA as you shift focus to and away from the self voicing aspects of Speak ON.

David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: 12 May 2020 15:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version 2019.3.1 and later

Hi Group,

I am wondering just what added benefit using an add on for Speak On Media Suite would be.  I don't use Speak On much any more--since I got my iPhone, but as I recall, Speak On is self voicing and speaks well in all the menus and at all levels.  Did something change within that program within the past few months that necessitates an add on?


On 5/12/2020 8:38 AM, David Griffith wrote:
Further to Isaac's message about the NVDA AddOn for Speak ON
   I copy below the Podcast series I am doing to aid people's use of the suite. These Podcasts can be freely distributed if they are of assistance in these times.

Speak On Resources
You can download Speak On media Suite from
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html
Mailing List for Speak On
http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/NeweUpdateMai
lingListContact/Mailing_list.html

Speak On Media Podcast

Links are provided with SendSpace and DropBox.
01 Introduction Speak on Media Suite.mp3
This Podcast covers setting up Speak On Media, changing the default synthesiser to a more friendly   voice and  introduces you to the range of apps available by default, and then the further apps available through additional optional plugins.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/otzppu
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8y09u2leqstfxa5/01%20Introduction%20Speak%20
on%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1

02 Getting an Audio Books into Speak On Media Suite.mp3

This Podcast describes how shortcuts and the send to menu in File Explorer can be utilised to make it much easier to import books  and other content into  Speak On Media.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/v7dhkt
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuj67i26b4f8dtk/02%20Getting%20Audio%20Books
%20into%20Speak%20On%20Media%20Suite.mp3?dl=1

03 Playing Daisy and Audio Books in Speak On.mp3 This Podcast covers
loading and reading of Daisy and Audio Books. It explains Speak On navigation options, bookmarking, and varying the speed and volume of playback. It also introduces Speak On’s context sensitive help feature.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/ye758q
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqqvar1l0v66agi/03%20Playing%20Daisy%20and%2
0Audio%20Books%20in%20Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1

04 Reading eBooks on Speak On
This covers.
-Loading an eBook into the Speak On Directory through the Send To Menu.
-changing the Reading Voice.
- Navigation levels available in the eBook.
- Managing Bookmarks and getting book size information.
-Tabbing through the Player Bookmark list and Library view.
- Adjusting the speed and volume of book playback  on the fly.
- Copying and pasting text from an eBook into Notepad.
- Saving Sections of the book as text files.
- Creating a "virtual eBook" based upon a search term.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/akbva2
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6prii2ctprlonak/04%20Reading%20eBooks%20on%2
0Speak%20On.mp3?dl=1

05 Speak On and Internet Radio
This Podcast covers
- Using a  free or paid Tunein account to access Radio in Speak On.
- Using the optional VI Radio app.
- Importing Radio Streams into the Other Media app to create a 3rd Customised Internet Radio  app.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/sgqix8
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hgwfljk44v2yp6o/05%20Radio%20with%20Speak%20
on.mp3?dl=1

Link to a Radio Streams folder to import into Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/p7xu1m

06 Using Speak On and the RNIB Reading Service.

This Podcasts covers downloading a  daisy Book from the new RNIB Reading Service  and playing it in Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/j006ie
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gi9lhz98twk9mx/06%20Speak%20On%20and%20the%
20RNIB%20Reading%20Service.mp3?dl=1

07 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 1 - Newspapers.
This Podcasts covers.
1. Advantages of using Speak On to easily access the eText Newspaper service, including its Virtual Reader function to streamline reading.
Installing the task and logging into the eText service.
Lloading of Newspapers, navigation and adjustment of speed and volume of playback.
Setting up favourite papers.
Bookmarking and extracting articles into text files.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/d40tj7
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4y5bhyzdhy9vz0/07%20Speak%20On%20and%20RNIB
%20eText%20Newsagent.mp3?dl=1

08 Speak On and the RNIB Newsagent Service Part 2 Magazines.
This Podcast covers accessing the RNIB magazine service and the workaround needed if the RNIB has broken a link from a Magazine to Speak On.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/jsp0da
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qde2fmple3c6gg1/08%20Speak%20On%2C%20RNIB%20
and%20eText%20magazine%20.mp3?dl=1

09 Speak On and Podcasts.

This Podcast covers searching for a Podcast, subscribing to a Podcast by adding to Favorites, downloading Podcast, and browsing the Category Online directory Service.   As part of this it show how Speak On acts as a virtual BBC Sounds app. It also covers importing OPML files from another Podcast Reader and briefly covers the optional VI Podcast app which provides access to selected Podcasts of interest to Blind and Partially Sighted People.
Note For a demonstration of the third Podcast facility in Speak On , via the tunein  Radio   app  to download Podcasts and Radio  shows from that service,  please refer back to Podcast 5 on Internet Radio and Speak On.

https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/tv8u7i
https://www.dropbox.com/s/88efq4jhsumskij/09Speak%20On%20and%20%20Podc
asts.mp3?dl=1





-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Isaac
Porat
Sent: 12 May 2020 13:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] New SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on for version
2019.3.1 and later

Hello all


A new SpeakOn MediaSuite NVDA add-on is available for NVDA versions
2019.3.1 and later. This add-on does nothing by itself, you need to download and install SpeakOn Media suite for it to work.

More information to enable you to decide if it might be for you is provided towards the end of this message.


About a month ago there was an extensive discussion on this mailing
list about SpeakOn Media suite as part of podcast and books readers
related threads.

In addition to these, SpeakOn can handle Music, Radio and RNIB
Newspapers and Magazines in the UK.


The SpeakOn MediaSuite home page where you can find more information
including links to the download page and mailing list is at:

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


The NVDA add-on is a convenience or a necessity depends how you
interact with SpeakOn; you can use a Standard keyboard, a numerical
keypad or a touch screen.

Information on the NVDA add-on and a link to download can be found at:

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn/MediaSuite/public/docs/Tutorial/The_
basics/Operating_SpeakOn_alongside_your_screen_reader/Configuring_NVDA
.html


Please note the following based on recent questions:


* SpeakOn is self voicing.


* SpeakOn supports English only.


* SpeakOn itself has not been updated for a while but with a minor
exception everything works and there are no known bugs.


* Audio books:

It supports Daisy 2 as used in the UK and (I think) most of Europe, it
does not support Daisy 3 as used in the US.

Books made of individual audio files as well as playlists are also
supported


* Written books:

epub is supported as well as plain text.


* PDF is not supported


* DRM protection is not supported


Regards

Isaac


Isaac Porat

SpeakOn developer








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