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Re: Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

molly the blind tech lover
 

I had the same problem in regards to the sound being disabled.
I also required sighted assistance in installing NVDA on the virtual machine.
I now have 2 clones I made from the main virtual machine, both of which have NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

I used VmWare when I took a networking class a few years ago and found it quite easy to use. I'd need a refresher on some of its commands now as it's been about five years since I've used it, but I found it quite usable with NVDA. I'll mention the problems I had with it even though they have nothing to do with VmWare itself:
1. This could be a problem with any virtual machine, there are so many files associated with it that I had a hard time figuring out which file to open in order to start the machine.
2. Once the machines were configured, I needed sighted assistance to install a screen reader. When I did get NVDA installed in Server 2008, the sound device was disabled, so we had to change that in order to get NVDA to work.

On 2/27/21, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
I am actually using VMware work station pro for my computer networking
class right now.
I am not familiar with HyperV but I was hoping to hear of another
blind person's experiences with VMware work station as I don't know
anyone else who uses it.
Now that my professor fixed it so that the virtual machines appear in
the list of tabs I find VMware work station much easier to use.
I can press alt t and see the virtual machines in the list of tabs.
If I press enter on one I can then press control b to power it on.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Akash
Kakkar
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 9:45 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io; main@TechTalk.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

Hi all,

So, I want to use HyperV instead of VMWare Workstation Pro for my
virtualisation needs.

Can anyone please tell me his/her experience with HyperV while using NVDA?

What shortcut keys are there?

How to switch to guest OS?

How to switch to host OS?

Any NVDA addon to make any part of HyperV more accessible.

Please help me














Re: Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

 

Well, the issue I had was with edit fields, but also enhanced keyboard.

I installed it so I could use it on linux but when updating again, well it just didn't work, and plus I forgot to update enhanced keyboard which screwed up windows.

I went to do support but vmware will notaccept anything that doesn't have a contract so well vmware is hmmmph, not sure.


I don't have a dedicated system to do this but I may try again with virtual box  portable, hopefully I won't have to have my system slowed down with drivers and other junk I will never need.



On 28/02/2021 8:45 am, abdul muhamin wrote:

Hello, VMWare is more accessible now a days, I recommend you should try the latest version

 

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From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: Saturday, 27 February 2021 7:45 am
To: blindtech@groups.io; main@techtalk.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

So, I want to use HyperV instead of VMWare Workstation Pro for my

virtualisation needs.

 

Can anyone please tell me his/her experience with HyperV while using NVDA?

 

What shortcut keys are there?

 

How to switch to guest OS?

 

How to switch to host OS?

 

Any NVDA addon to make any part of HyperV more accessible.

 

Please help me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

abdul muhamin
 

Hello, VMWare is more accessible now a days, I recommend you should try the latest version

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Akash Kakkar
Sent: Saturday, 27 February 2021 7:45 am
To: blindtech@groups.io; main@techtalk.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

So, I want to use HyperV instead of VMWare Workstation Pro for my

virtualisation needs.

 

Can anyone please tell me his/her experience with HyperV while using NVDA?

 

What shortcut keys are there?

 

How to switch to guest OS?

 

How to switch to host OS?

 

Any NVDA addon to make any part of HyperV more accessible.

 

Please help me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

I used VmWare when I took a networking class a few years ago and found
it quite easy to use. I'd need a refresher on some of its commands now
as it's been about five years since I've used it, but I found it quite
usable with NVDA. I'll mention the problems I had with it even though
they have nothing to do with VmWare itself:
1. This could be a problem with any virtual machine, there are so many
files associated with it that I had a hard time figuring out which
file to open in order to start the machine.
2. Once the machines were configured, I needed sighted assistance to
install a screen reader. When I did get NVDA installed in Server 2008,
the sound device was disabled, so we had to change that in order to
get NVDA to work.

On 2/27/21, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi.
I am actually using VMware work station pro for my computer networking class
right now.
I am not familiar with HyperV but I was hoping to hear of another blind
person's experiences with VMware work station as I don't know anyone else
who uses it.
Now that my professor fixed it so that the virtual machines appear in the
list of tabs I find VMware work station much easier to use.
I can press alt t and see the virtual machines in the list of tabs.
If I press enter on one I can then press control b to power it on.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Akash Kakkar
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 9:45 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io; main@TechTalk.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

Hi all,

So, I want to use HyperV instead of VMWare Workstation Pro for my
virtualisation needs.

Can anyone please tell me his/her experience with HyperV while using NVDA?

What shortcut keys are there?

How to switch to guest OS?

How to switch to host OS?

Any NVDA addon to make any part of HyperV more accessible.

Please help me














Re: NVDA 2020.4 and Google Docs and editing in Box

George Kerscher
 

Dear All,

 

I went into the NVDA settings under my Chrome profile. I made a change or two under browse mode, and now all is well.

 

Thank you.

 

Best

George

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George Kerscher
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 9:29 AM
To: NVDA General Discussion <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.4 and Google Docs and editing in Box

 

Hello,

 

With the latest version, I am now not able to use Google Docs, and when entering information in a Box note in a table cell, I could not paste.

 

Any thoughts before I revert to 2020.3?

 

Best

George


Re: NVDA 2020.4 and Google Docs and editing in Box

Jason White
 

I've never had much success using Google Docs with any screen reader - there have always been issues.

I usually download the file in Microsoft Word format and read it locally. You can edit it locally and then upload the revised version.

On 27/2/21 11:28 am, George Kerscher wrote:

Hello,

 

With the latest version, I am now not able to use Google Docs, and when entering information in a Box note in a table cell, I could not paste.

 

Any thoughts before I revert to 2020.3?

 

Best

George


Re: Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

Akash Kakkar
 

Hi Lukas,

Thanks a lot for your help.
Ok, if this is the case then I'll stay with VMWare only. actually was just thinking to try however don't require any specific feature of HyperV
Thanks a lot for your detailed explaination bro, it helped a lot.

On 2/27/2021 9:32 PM, Lukasz Golonka via groups.io wrote:
In short, don't bother unless you need a specific feature of HyperV.
Interface is pretty accessible but you won't have sound from a guest OS
until an equivalent of VMware Tools is installed inside a VM.
It should be possible I guess to install Windows using an unattended
installation and automate installation of these tools into your guest
system but there is no real advantage in switching.
If you're looking for a replacement of VMware you can try VirtualBox -
it is not as accessible but offers very similar set of features.


NVDA 2020.4 and Google Docs and editing in Box

George Kerscher
 

Hello,

 

With the latest version, I am now not able to use Google Docs, and when entering information in a Box note in a table cell, I could not paste.

 

Any thoughts before I revert to 2020.3?

 

Best

George


Re: Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

Lukasz Golonka
 

In short, don't bother unless you need a specific feature of HyperV.
Interface is pretty accessible but you won't have sound from a guest OS
until an equivalent of VMware Tools is installed inside a VM.
It should be possible I guess to install Windows using an unattended
installation and automate installation of these tools into your guest
system but there is no real advantage in switching.
If you're looking for a replacement of VMware you can try VirtualBox -
it is not as accessible but offers very similar set of features.

--
HTH
Lukasz

On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 08:14:52 +0530
"Akash Kakkar" <akash.diverse@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

So, I want to use HyperV instead of VMWare Workstation Pro for my virtualisation needs.

Can anyone please tell me his/her experience with HyperV while using NVDA?

What shortcut keys are there?

How to switch to guest OS?

How to switch to host OS?

Any NVDA addon to make any part of HyperV more accessible.

Please help me






Re: Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.
I am actually using VMware work station pro for my computer networking class right now.
I am not familiar with HyperV but I was hoping to hear of another blind person's experiences with VMware work station as I don't know anyone else who uses it.
Now that my professor fixed it so that the virtual machines appear in the list of tabs I find VMware work station much easier to use.
I can press alt t and see the virtual machines in the list of tabs.
If I press enter on one I can then press control b to power it on.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Akash Kakkar
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 9:45 PM
To: blindtech@groups.io; main@TechTalk.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

Hi all,

So, I want to use HyperV instead of VMWare Workstation Pro for my virtualisation needs.

Can anyone please tell me his/her experience with HyperV while using NVDA?

What shortcut keys are there?

How to switch to guest OS?

How to switch to host OS?

Any NVDA addon to make any part of HyperV more accessible.

Please help me


Getting started with HyperV using NVDA

Akash Kakkar
 

Hi all,

So, I want to use HyperV instead of VMWare Workstation Pro for my virtualisation needs.

Can anyone please tell me his/her experience with HyperV while using NVDA?

What shortcut keys are there?

How to switch to guest OS?

How to switch to host OS?

Any NVDA addon to make any part of HyperV more accessible.

Please help me


Re: NVDA 2020.4 goes silent after copying text from one Excel cell to another

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  What is live view?  I don't believe I've heard of it.

Louise


Re: Question about add-on help

 

Hi,

I cannot reproduce this – add-on help button shows up for add-ons with documentation every time I open add-ons manager. I bet this is something that cannot be fixed with COM registration tool, so I advise restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 10:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about add-on help

 

Hi.  It looks like I spoke too soon.  When I opened the add-ons manager after exiting it, the help button disappeared.  It looks like it's gone for all add-ons, not just some of them as I originally thought.  Restarting NVDA didn't seem to remedy the problem.  It seems as if the help button only shows up the first time I open add-ons manager after restarting the computer.  I'm not confident enough to try a windows repair or the com registration tool, because I don't know if it will mess something up.  I know it shouldn't in theory, but you never know with technology.

Louise


Re: Question about add-on help

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  It looks like I spoke too soon.  When I opened the add-ons manager after exiting it, the help button disappeared.  It looks like it's gone for all add-ons, not just some of them as I originally thought.  Restarting NVDA didn't seem to remedy the problem.  It seems as if the help button only shows up the first time I open add-ons manager after restarting the computer.  I'm not confident enough to try a windows repair or the com registration tool, because I don't know if it will mess something up.  I know it shouldn't in theory, but you never know with technology.

Louise


Re: Question about add-on help

 

Hi,

To be clear, is “Add-on help” button showing when you select Add-on Updater? I know that it does on my system – I do know that it doesn’t for languages other than English, and this is due to the fact that translated documentation aren’t transferred to the add-on correctly (something beyond the add-on’s control).

In general, most add-ons should let NVDA open their help files. Some don’t, and these are typically old add-ons unless add-on documentation are not built when packaging add-ons. In fact, one of the things the add-ons community looks at when reviewing add-ons is presence of add-on help files (documentation checks), and effort is ongoing to improve the quality of add-on documentation (there is a bigger project that concerns NVDA source code documentation, but that’s for another time).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 10:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question about add-on help

 

Hi.  I'm running NVDA 2020.4.    I don't know what happened, but when I tabbed through all of the controls of the add-ons manager dialog last night, the help button didn't show up for some add-ons.  I shut down my computer every night.  When I restarted the computer this morning, the dialog behaved correctly.  I feel extremely silly.

Louise


Re: Question about add-on help

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I'm running NVDA 2020.4.    I don't know what happened, but when I tabbed through all of the controls of the add-ons manager dialog last night, the help button didn't show up for some add-ons.  I shut down my computer every night.  When I restarted the computer this morning, the dialog behaved correctly.  I feel extremely silly.

Louise


Re: Strange behaviour in file list of Windows explorer

 

Have you tried:   The Most Basic Troubleshooting Steps for Suspected NVDA Issues

If none fix the issue, please report back.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

Any idiot can face a crisis. It's the day-to-day living that wears you out.

      ~ Anton Chekhov

 


Re: ZOOM: Can NVDA announce state of mute/unmute?

Chris Smart
 

Zoom has lots of hotkeys built in like this that the original poster should look up and learn.



On 2021-02-26 3:08 a.m., Sylvie Duchateau wrote:

Hello,

Alt+A works fine here, NVDA announces that audio is muted or not.

You can also open the participants list in typing alt+u, arrow down to your name and NVDA will tell you if you are muted or not.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Arlene via groups.io
Envoyé : jeudi 25 février 2021 18:59
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] ZOOM: Can NVDA announce state of mute/unmute?

 

Hi, all you do is hold down the alt key and hit a. You will be muted. When you unmute do the same thing. I tried with both jaws and NVDA. When I mute Jaws will say your audio is muted. NVDA says muted. You know you are muted. When you unmute, NVDA will say unmuted. Jaws will say your audio is unmuted.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Milton Charlton
Sent: February 25, 2021 9:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ZOOM: Can NVDA announce state of mute/unmute?

 

During a ZOOM session I would like to hear the status of mute/unmute.  When I press down the spacebar, NVDA starts to announce “unmute” but does not complete speaking the word “unmute”.  When I let up the spacebar NVDA announces “mute”.

It is often impractical to hold down the spacebar to speak.  If I manage to click on the mute/unmute icon, NVDA does not announce anything.  I know there is a red slash though the icon but that is too hard to see.

Similarly, if I use ALT-A to change the state of mute/unmute, NVDA does not announce this.

I feel I am missing something here and therefore seek your advice.  Is there a way to make this work better?

It would also be really handy to have a way to announce the state of mute/unmute without actually changing the state by the controls mentioned above.  Something like a hotkey that causes the state of mute/unmute to be spoken would be great.  Sometimes during a session I just want to know if I am  muted or unmuted because I may have forgotten the status.

Thanks.  This is a great forum!!

Milton

 

 

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Re: ZOOM: Can NVDA announce state of mute/unmute?

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi,

if you press a hotkey Alt + A, Nvda anounces Audio mute, if you press the hotkey seccondly, Nvda anounces Audio Unmute.

Jarek

Dne 25.02.2021 v 18:25 Milton Charlton napsal(a):

During a ZOOM session I would like to hear the status of mute/unmute.  When I press down the spacebar, NVDA starts to announce “unmute” but does not complete speaking the word “unmute”.  When I let up the spacebar NVDA announces “mute”.

It is often impractical to hold down the spacebar to speak.  If I manage to click on the mute/unmute icon, NVDA does not announce anything.  I know there is a red slash though the icon but that is too hard to see.

Similarly, if I use ALT-A to change the state of mute/unmute, NVDA does not announce this.

I feel I am missing something here and therefore seek your advice.  Is there a way to make this work better?

It would also be really handy to have a way to announce the state of mute/unmute without actually changing the state by the controls mentioned above.  Something like a hotkey that causes the state of mute/unmute to be spoken would be great.  Sometimes during a session I just want to know if I am  muted or unmuted because I may have forgotten the status.

Thanks.  This is a great forum!!

Milton

 


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Re: ZOOM: Can NVDA announce state of mute/unmute?

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello,

Alt+A works fine here, NVDA announces that audio is muted or not.

You can also open the participants list in typing alt+u, arrow down to your name and NVDA will tell you if you are muted or not.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Arlene via groups.io
Envoyé : jeudi 25 février 2021 18:59
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : Re: [nvda] ZOOM: Can NVDA announce state of mute/unmute?

 

Hi, all you do is hold down the alt key and hit a. You will be muted. When you unmute do the same thing. I tried with both jaws and NVDA. When I mute Jaws will say your audio is muted. NVDA says muted. You know you are muted. When you unmute, NVDA will say unmuted. Jaws will say your audio is unmuted.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Milton Charlton
Sent: February 25, 2021 9:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ZOOM: Can NVDA announce state of mute/unmute?

 

During a ZOOM session I would like to hear the status of mute/unmute.  When I press down the spacebar, NVDA starts to announce “unmute” but does not complete speaking the word “unmute”.  When I let up the spacebar NVDA announces “mute”.

It is often impractical to hold down the spacebar to speak.  If I manage to click on the mute/unmute icon, NVDA does not announce anything.  I know there is a red slash though the icon but that is too hard to see.

Similarly, if I use ALT-A to change the state of mute/unmute, NVDA does not announce this.

I feel I am missing something here and therefore seek your advice.  Is there a way to make this work better?

It would also be really handy to have a way to announce the state of mute/unmute without actually changing the state by the controls mentioned above.  Something like a hotkey that causes the state of mute/unmute to be spoken would be great.  Sometimes during a session I just want to know if I am  muted or unmuted because I may have forgotten the status.

Thanks.  This is a great forum!!

Milton

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com

 

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