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Re: Accessing NVDA Menu

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It is if you have the capslock selected as well.
Back in the bad old Days I used to have a very lame Toshiba xop machine that would not use capslok as anything but capslock, but that was due to the non standard way the keyboard was read. I don't think anyone does this kind of thing these days.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Laz" <laz@talkingmp3players.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing NVDA Menu


That's not the keyboard shortcut; try the NVDA key with the letter N,
or the caps lock key with the letter n.

Laz

On 10/31/17, Andrea Sherry <sherryan@wideband.net.au> wrote:
Using the capslock with NVDA key no longer works on my system.

Is anyone else having this problem?

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Re: Accessing NVDA Menu

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Does anything else use that key that you might have installed recently?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrea Sherry" <sherryan@wideband.net.au>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing NVDA Menu


Yes it is.
Andrea
On 1/11/2017 9:38 AM, Gene wrote:
Is that even with the check box checked?
Gene
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Using the capslock with NVDA key no longer works on my system.

Is anyone else having this problem?

Andrea

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Re: no numpad

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Caps lock?
However it will be quite difficult if numlock is on when you use the fn key to use the keys as a numpad. Some ppeople say they do not miss the numpad, but when I get a laptop where I'm needing to use it the multi key presses give me hand ache.
Of course in the main if you use the laptop layout you will be fine but sometimes turning on numlock and using a keypatd for erm numbers can be much faster.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ame" <abk043@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 8:52 PM
Subject: [nvda] no numpad


Hi!

A friend just got a new laptop. It’s an HP slim line. It’s a windows 10. She installed NVDA on the machine and nobody can find the numlock key. She had her mother look and it doesn’t have one. Apparently some don’t have the numpad or the numlock. Very different. I’ve never heard of or seen a keyboard without the numpad and the numlock. So, here’s the question: What do you use for the NVDA key?

Thanks so much in advance for your help.


Re: New NVDA user

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Well, I have to say that I've never used Jaws, I had Supernova before, but when I completely lost my sight, I did not really need all the magnification stuff and as you say things start to get expensive when Windows is being updated all the time. Up until recently I had two working machines one on 7, this newish one, and an old updated to death one running 10. sadly that latter one died and is beyond salvage having fried its motherboard with a psu fault.
So I'm using 7 and will not update to 10, mainly due to what you say, all those apps but they are all one offs and need to be made accessible, but I will get a new windows 10 machine soon.
Nvda is great for several reasons. You can run betas and you can ask people who know about this stuff to see if they can fix issues and they get fixed. Also, when or if something des go awry, you can very easily roll back nvda so you can carry on as before. this r4ecently happened for XP as you will probably know the last version was the last to run on XP, and is being kept available as there are as you proved old system still out there. Of course no new software is being made for xp, so the current screenreader will be all you really need on such machines.


I never felt I got this amount of involvement from Dolphin, despite being a paying customer, that is not of course being too critical as they much have a lot more people breathing down their necks over there.

I do however try to donate to NV Access every time a new version comes out. sometimes its quite a lot, others not so much. I am now a pensioner, after all!
Leans on old walking stick, well not quite yet!
So yes, nothing is perfect, as you say Espeak is a bit of a jack of all trades and hence does have some problems, but its even quite easy to tweak and create different voices in Espeak, Quincy is one I made for laptop use, as its not as shrill as the other ones or indeed the default voice. It has never been good at US accents, sounding like a cross between posh New England and Canadian to me.
But in the UK here I find it acceptable.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@ca.inter.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:21 PM
Subject: [nvda] New NVDA user


Hello folks. I'm sure other people have posted testimonials of some sort
here before, but I fancy some enjoy reading such things, so here goes with
mine. Feel free to ignore this message as I'm not posting for help or
anything like that, though I will end with a question of sorts for the list.



I've been a JAWS user since, roughly, 1999. I recently got a Windows 10
machine (upgraded from XP!) and was able to get new JAWS at a discounted
price from my former employer. I took advantage of the discount just before
they laid me off! *grins*



Well, obviously perhaps, I've been spending a lot of time looking for
employment since then. I recently had an interview where they needed me to
do a test on a computer. They had not much idea about accommodations for
blind folks but seemed very willing to give it a go. With a faint glimmer of
hope, I told them about JAWS: that it was the most professional
screen-reader around; that "yes, I know it's really expensive, but there is
a demo you can run for forty minutes at a time!", etc, etc. 'There's also
this thing called NVDA," I muttered a little under my breath, "which is a
free one; if you can't get JAWS working, I suppose I could work with that."
I showed up to the interview, foolishly hoping my ole' buddy the shark would
save me. Nope! They couldn't even get the demo to run, for some reason (the
test computer was an old one, I think, running XP). So, NVDA it was to be!



I'll back up a bit and say I've known about nVDA for quite some time. I
always thought it might come in handy and that I should get it on one of my
machines and start using it, but never got around to it. The closest I came
was using it on my ex-wife's laptop, mostly to play music. I still don't
like eSpeak, I'm afraid, and I used it on a Linux machine running Orca
before, too. Because that laptop wasn't mine I never really spent a lot of
time with it; didn't realise it would in fact be possible to change the
synthesiser to something more to my liking.



Well, there I was, sitting in this open office, sweating profusely and
feeling tense because I didn't really know what I was doing. I managed to
switch the voice to the XP narrator one, and that was reasonably ok. I found
that everything worked like a charm! I only had to use three programmes at
that time: notepad, MS Word and a programme for audio playback/transcription
that had (thankfully) native keystroke commands. A part of the test was
related to spelling and grammar, so I was able to configure NVDA, without
reference to the user guide or any prior experience, to speak the level of
punctuation I wanted and to indicate capital letters in a way that was
convenient. There was a time limit involved, so I really wasn't able to play
around as much as I should have, yet I was very pleased that I was basically
able to get everything up and working to my satisfaction.



Now I'm at home, running nVDA, and really liking it. I have no JAWS upgrades
left, and that doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would, though I'm
not abandoning it altogether as I'm sure both screen-readers have their
strengths.



So, I read the user guide. Great. A lot of very familiar keystrokes. Some
small differences, but that's fine and even welcome. I stumbled across the
"switching from jAWS to nVDA" wiki page today and read through it; it
confirmed some of what I'd already noted. I have also been looking through
the add-ons on the official page and just installed the Windows 10
Essentials one. I don't like these modern universal apps much, but, you
know, may as well get used to them if they're the up-and-coming thing, and
maybe they'll actually work better with NVDA than they do with JAWS.



What do you all think, those of you who have expereince with both
screen-readers? Any thoughts that might not have been mentioned on the wiki
over there? I'm not looking to start an argument, obviously, but I didn't
get a lot of feedback when I posted a similar message (without some of th e
sarcasm) on the JAWS list, and I thought it might actually go over better
here.



Also, what add-ons do you all like to use?



Cheers, and glad to be a part of the NVDA community.



P.S.: I didn't get the job. That's ok. I still learned something.


Re: Reading PDF files with NVDA using acrobat? Or a web browser?

Mary Otten <motten53@...>
 

So you are referring to the acrobat DC reader? I guess there is only one reader now? Just wanting to make sure I don’t get anything more complex then I need to have.
Mary


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Adobe Reader will tag the document automatically. When you start the programm first time, it will recognize that you are using assistive technology. You will then have to configure the Auto tagging function. When you open a document, the reader will insert the tags. After a few mintues, depends on the size of the document you can start to read. This procedure is not necessary for accessible or taged documents, but these docs are very rare.


Am 01.11.2017 um 15:31 schrieb Mary Otten:
I am coming from an old windows XP machine where I used an old version of Adobe acrobat with good success on many PDF files. It let me navigate tables, access links, read continuously if I wanted to, page through the document, etc. i’m going to get a new Windows 10 machine, and I’m going to put NVDA on it and of course it will have narrator. I want to know which method work the best for reading PDF files. I understand they will open in edge if you want. And I assume the Adobe DC acrobat reader or whatever it’s called is also accessible. I gather the older readers are no longer supported. Anyway, I’m looking for something that will give me the best possible experience with the least possible hassle.
Mary


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Re: fixing error message?

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Maybe it is using the same dll to hook into the system and when its inactive it does not remove its hooks and nvda thus cannot cope??
Its really a question for somebody who knows the low level stuff of both screenreaders.
Might be worth reporting it to the Jaws and nvda relevent lists in case its easy to fix.

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From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?


I uninstalled nvda, removed all freedom scientific products
I then re installed nvda, and jaws 18 and thus far it appears to be fixed.
at this point I am not going to touch jaws 2018
at least on windows7
I have no idea what was going on with it but from what I can determan jaws2018
seems to be the colprate
any idea why jaws 2018 breaks nvda?
Hank

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I thought I read he was using Windows 7, and the error could be due to so many things of course. often rolling back only works till the offending update is reinstalled by whatever put it on before, so it will pay in the long run to attempt to pin it down I think.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?


Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program.

You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if there is anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available. My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs. Others who know more about all this may wish to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.

Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?


Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved







.


Re: Reading PDF files with NVDA using acrobat? Or a web browser?

Domingos de Oliveira <domingos20000@...>
 

Adobe Reader will tag the document automatically. When you start the programm first time, it will recognize that you are using assistive technology. You will then have to configure the Auto tagging function. When you open a document, the reader will insert the tags. After a few mintues, depends on the size of the document you can start to read. This procedure is not necessary for accessible or taged documents, but these docs are very rare.


Am 01.11.2017 um 15:31 schrieb Mary Otten:

I am coming from an old windows XP machine where I used an old version of Adobe acrobat with good success on many PDF files. It let me navigate tables, access links, read continuously if I wanted to, page through the document, etc. i’m going to get a new Windows 10 machine, and I’m going to put NVDA on it and of course it will have narrator. I want to know which method work the best for reading PDF files. I understand they will open in edge if you want. And I assume the Adobe DC acrobat reader or whatever it’s called is also accessible. I gather the older readers are no longer supported. Anyway, I’m looking for something that will give me the best possible experience with the least possible hassle.
Mary


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Reading PDF files with NVDA using acrobat? Or a web browser?

Mary Otten <motten53@...>
 

I am coming from an old windows XP machine where I used an old version of Adobe acrobat with good success on many PDF files. It let me navigate tables, access links, read continuously if I wanted to, page through the document, etc. i’m going to get a new Windows 10 machine, and I’m going to put NVDA on it and of course it will have narrator. I want to know which method work the best for reading PDF files. I understand they will open in edge if you want. And I assume the Adobe DC acrobat reader or whatever it’s called is also accessible. I gather the older readers are no longer supported. Anyway, I’m looking for something that will give me the best possible experience with the least possible hassle.
Mary


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Re: NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

Ian Robinson <ian228@...>
 

Hi Philip,

 

Navigating through a list of messages should be quicker if you turn off the Reading Pane.  Sorry I can’t tell you exactly how to do that as I haven’t used that version of Outlook before.

 

Oh, and I think you might have more chance of getting answers if you put each question in a separate email.

 

Regards.

 

Ian

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Philip Anderson via Groups.Io
Sent: 01 November 2017 11:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

 

Hello Clare

 

Thank you. I shall give your suggestion a go since I too dislike hearing line number announcements constantly.

It was the same as hearing ‘Clickable’ continually when browsing the web. Then I discovered through Document formatting how to disable this option. Phew

 

Take care and thank you once again.

 

Philip

!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: 01 November 2017 11:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

 

Hi!

I’m glad to hear that you like NVDA, Philip, but I’m sorry you have several problems with it.

I can’t answer most of your questions, but I can say that, as far as I know, there are no special add-ons for Microsoft Office. I use Office 2007 myself, specifically Word, Excel and Outlook: the latter crashes sometimes for me, but otherwise it works well, and the only view change I made in Outlook after installing it was to have the newest emails at the bottom which I prefer. I also found that disabling the reading of tables works better for me in emails, as the body of some emails comes up as tables and I don’t want to hear row and column numbers all the time while reading the text: that’s my choice, though, and you may feel differently about that.

I hope other people can answer your other questions!

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Philip Anderson via Groups.Io
Sent: mercredi 1 novembre 2017 01:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

 

Hi All

 

 

I am new to this group and wish to thank you for kindly accepting my membership. I am very much looking forward to meeting you and hearing your NVDA experiences.

 

I am really enjoying using NVDA. It is a fabulous alternative to JAWS. However, I have a few questions and wondered if you can help.

 

Please forgive me in advance if I have included two many questions in one email. I’m thinking most of them might simply be a case of settings; he says holding his breath... J

 

Please advise if you would rather I created a separate thread for each question. Here goes...

Operating System: Windows 7 Home

MS Office 2007

 

Q1. Are there any NVDA add ons for MS Office 2007?

 

I have searched, but cannot seem to find any.

 

In addition, what's the best configuration settings for viewing MS office 2007 Outlook messages in table view, only I am finding response time terribly slow and crashes and programme closures frequent?

I have tried enabling 'tables' in 'settings' and selecting anything else seemingly likely to resolve the problem, but without joy.

 

Furthermore, I am presently encountering problems sending and replying to messages. I am having to launch the 'new message or 'reply' options twice before I can write anything that NVDA will read back to me in all edit fields from 'address, subject and body.'

 

* Attempt 1 merely keeps saying 'blank' whenever I type into the fields, then freezes and I am forced to exit and try again.

 

* Works perfectly second time round.

 

NVDA, Google Chrome & Ebay

 

Q3. Similarly, I am experiencing one or two issues revising my Ebay listings. While I am able to edit 'Product Title' and 'General Item Specifics', there seems to be compatibility issues when it comes to updating 'Price' & 'Quantities' in listings with multiple variations when 'drag and drop' is required. What do you recommend?

 

Q4. In Paypal, while I can generally find work arounds for most things, accessing the buttons in 'packing slips' is a problem.

 

A Packing slip is a consignment note businesses can print off and include in with their products they are sending out to their customers.

To access 'Packing Slips':

* first select 'Summary'

* arrow down to payments received

* select recipient and press enter

* search for 'print packing slip' and press enter.

 

Here you should see three buttons:

 

* Button 1 allows you to 'print the slip

* button 2, edit your personalised customer message

& * button 3, Done.

 

NVDA recognises and echos the associated text for these buttons, but simply refuses to display them as clickable options.

 

Finally...

Q5. What possibly could be the underlining reason why NVDA's general key stroke options  keeps malfunctioning on my machine, leaving me with delayed speech recognition and no means of restarting the programme using the standard shortcut option other than a 'hard system boot?' 

 

Thank you in anticipation for your help in this regard.

 

Cordially

 

Philip

 


Re: Updated In-Process

 

hello robert.
thanks so much for your information and God bless you!

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Hi, Zarah

It has nothing with the nvda in particular, it just that normally
Halloween is festival or observant of the traditional during the eve of
November. To make it clear what exactly is the Halloween here is the
link for your reference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

Robert Mendoza

On 11/1/2017 2:19 PM, zahra wrote:
hello quentin.
did you read my comment in your previous email?
i opened the link without any problem, you did not tell me whats the
meaning of Halloween
God bless you and his infinite mercy i pray for you!!

On 11/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm not sure what happened with my link in the last message, but here is
an
updated link to an updated post - I've included links to some of the
fantastic community contributions we got for Halloween! Feel free to
join
in and I'll update the post again as needed:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-halloween-2017-edition/

Kind regards

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Re: NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

Philip Anderson
 

Hello Clare

 

Thank you. I shall give your suggestion a go since I too dislike hearing line number announcements constantly.

It was the same as hearing ‘Clickable’ continually when browsing the web. Then I discovered through Document formatting how to disable this option. Phew

 

Take care and thank you once again.

 

Philip

!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clare Page
Sent: 01 November 2017 11:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

 

Hi!

I’m glad to hear that you like NVDA, Philip, but I’m sorry you have several problems with it.

I can’t answer most of your questions, but I can say that, as far as I know, there are no special add-ons for Microsoft Office. I use Office 2007 myself, specifically Word, Excel and Outlook: the latter crashes sometimes for me, but otherwise it works well, and the only view change I made in Outlook after installing it was to have the newest emails at the bottom which I prefer. I also found that disabling the reading of tables works better for me in emails, as the body of some emails comes up as tables and I don’t want to hear row and column numbers all the time while reading the text: that’s my choice, though, and you may feel differently about that.

I hope other people can answer your other questions!

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Philip Anderson via Groups.Io
Sent: mercredi 1 novembre 2017 01:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

 

Hi All

 

 

I am new to this group and wish to thank you for kindly accepting my membership. I am very much looking forward to meeting you and hearing your NVDA experiences.

 

I am really enjoying using NVDA. It is a fabulous alternative to JAWS. However, I have a few questions and wondered if you can help.

 

Please forgive me in advance if I have included two many questions in one email. I’m thinking most of them might simply be a case of settings; he says holding his breath... J

 

Please advise if you would rather I created a separate thread for each question. Here goes...

Operating System: Windows 7 Home

MS Office 2007

 

Q1. Are there any NVDA add ons for MS Office 2007?

 

I have searched, but cannot seem to find any.

 

In addition, what's the best configuration settings for viewing MS office 2007 Outlook messages in table view, only I am finding response time terribly slow and crashes and programme closures frequent?

I have tried enabling 'tables' in 'settings' and selecting anything else seemingly likely to resolve the problem, but without joy.

 

Furthermore, I am presently encountering problems sending and replying to messages. I am having to launch the 'new message or 'reply' options twice before I can write anything that NVDA will read back to me in all edit fields from 'address, subject and body.'

 

* Attempt 1 merely keeps saying 'blank' whenever I type into the fields, then freezes and I am forced to exit and try again.

 

* Works perfectly second time round.

 

NVDA, Google Chrome & Ebay

 

Q3. Similarly, I am experiencing one or two issues revising my Ebay listings. While I am able to edit 'Product Title' and 'General Item Specifics', there seems to be compatibility issues when it comes to updating 'Price' & 'Quantities' in listings with multiple variations when 'drag and drop' is required. What do you recommend?

 

Q4. In Paypal, while I can generally find work arounds for most things, accessing the buttons in 'packing slips' is a problem.

 

A Packing slip is a consignment note businesses can print off and include in with their products they are sending out to their customers.

To access 'Packing Slips':

* first select 'Summary'

* arrow down to payments received

* select recipient and press enter

* search for 'print packing slip' and press enter.

 

Here you should see three buttons:

 

* Button 1 allows you to 'print the slip

* button 2, edit your personalised customer message

& * button 3, Done.

 

NVDA recognises and echos the associated text for these buttons, but simply refuses to display them as clickable options.

 

Finally...

Q5. What possibly could be the underlining reason why NVDA's general key stroke options  keeps malfunctioning on my machine, leaving me with delayed speech recognition and no means of restarting the programme using the standard shortcut option other than a 'hard system boot?' 

 

Thank you in anticipation for your help in this regard.

 

Cordially

 

Philip

 


Re: NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!

I’m glad to hear that you like NVDA, Philip, but I’m sorry you have several problems with it.

I can’t answer most of your questions, but I can say that, as far as I know, there are no special add-ons for Microsoft Office. I use Office 2007 myself, specifically Word, Excel and Outlook: the latter crashes sometimes for me, but otherwise it works well, and the only view change I made in Outlook after installing it was to have the newest emails at the bottom which I prefer. I also found that disabling the reading of tables works better for me in emails, as the body of some emails comes up as tables and I don’t want to hear row and column numbers all the time while reading the text: that’s my choice, though, and you may feel differently about that.

I hope other people can answer your other questions!

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Philip Anderson via Groups.Io
Sent: mercredi 1 novembre 2017 01:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA, MS Office 2007 & Google Chrome

 

Hi All

 

 

I am new to this group and wish to thank you for kindly accepting my membership. I am very much looking forward to meeting you and hearing your NVDA experiences.

 

I am really enjoying using NVDA. It is a fabulous alternative to JAWS. However, I have a few questions and wondered if you can help.

 

Please forgive me in advance if I have included two many questions in one email. I’m thinking most of them might simply be a case of settings; he says holding his breath... J

 

Please advise if you would rather I created a separate thread for each question. Here goes...

Operating System: Windows 7 Home

MS Office 2007

 

Q1. Are there any NVDA add ons for MS Office 2007?

 

I have searched, but cannot seem to find any.

 

In addition, what's the best configuration settings for viewing MS office 2007 Outlook messages in table view, only I am finding response time terribly slow and crashes and programme closures frequent?

I have tried enabling 'tables' in 'settings' and selecting anything else seemingly likely to resolve the problem, but without joy.

 

Furthermore, I am presently encountering problems sending and replying to messages. I am having to launch the 'new message or 'reply' options twice before I can write anything that NVDA will read back to me in all edit fields from 'address, subject and body.'

 

* Attempt 1 merely keeps saying 'blank' whenever I type into the fields, then freezes and I am forced to exit and try again.

 

* Works perfectly second time round.

 

NVDA, Google Chrome & Ebay

 

Q3. Similarly, I am experiencing one or two issues revising my Ebay listings. While I am able to edit 'Product Title' and 'General Item Specifics', there seems to be compatibility issues when it comes to updating 'Price' & 'Quantities' in listings with multiple variations when 'drag and drop' is required. What do you recommend?

 

Q4. In Paypal, while I can generally find work arounds for most things, accessing the buttons in 'packing slips' is a problem.

 

A Packing slip is a consignment note businesses can print off and include in with their products they are sending out to their customers.

To access 'Packing Slips':

* first select 'Summary'

* arrow down to payments received

* select recipient and press enter

* search for 'print packing slip' and press enter.

 

Here you should see three buttons:

 

* Button 1 allows you to 'print the slip

* button 2, edit your personalised customer message

& * button 3, Done.

 

NVDA recognises and echos the associated text for these buttons, but simply refuses to display them as clickable options.

 

Finally...

Q5. What possibly could be the underlining reason why NVDA's general key stroke options  keeps malfunctioning on my machine, leaving me with delayed speech recognition and no means of restarting the programme using the standard shortcut option other than a 'hard system boot?' 

 

Thank you in anticipation for your help in this regard.

 

Cordially

 

Philip

 


Re: Halloween In-Process

Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
 

Hi Quentin,
 
That link worked like a charm.  Thanks,
 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Halloween In-Process
 
Sorry, I'm not sure what happened to the original link, it seems to have lost an all-important full stop in the URL.  Try this link: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-halloween-2017-edition/
 
As a bonus, I've updated the post to include some of the wonderful creations we received from the community for Halloween!
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin
 
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,
 
I can’t get to the in process page.  I get an error of page not found.  I just wanted you to know.
 
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Halloween In-Process
 
Hi everyone,
 
This week, we've got an update on using NVDA with Firefox 57, the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, getting NV Access training and support through the NDIS in Australia, & a spooky Halloween message (& challenge)!  All in this Halloween edition of In-Process from @NVAccess https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-halloween-2017-edition/ 🎃👻
 
Regards
 
Quentin.
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess



 
--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: New NVDA user

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!
I was a JAWS user for ten years before I switched to using NVDA full-time. I
used JAWS 3.5 on Windows 98 to begin with, then JAWS 6.20 on Windows XP. In
2010 my XP computer started having power issues, so I started using NVDA
more regularly on that computer because it used less power. That computer
finally gave up the ghost in 2011, so, as I couldn't afford to upgrade JAWS
for Windows 7, I switched to NVDA and have used that ever since. The only
thing which would make me use JAWS again is if I needed it for a particular
job, or if I was using someone else's computer which has JAWS but not NVDA,
but neither situation seems very likely for me right now.
As for add-ons, I use several, including Vocalizer, the add-on for Winamp,
and the add-on to read emoticons and emojis which are so often used these
days. There are lots of good add-ons out there, depending on what you want,
whether it's extra voices or extra functions.
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John
Isige
Sent: mardi 31 octobre 2017 20:21
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA user

Well I don't know about strengths and weaknesses. But my testimonial is that
I got sick of paying for jaws, so I decided to try NVDA for a month, I think
it was. There were a few times, mostly with installers or the like, where
I'd run into a situation where NVDA wouldn't read the screen, so I'd fire up
jaws. Jaws didn't read the screen either. I realized that NVDA was doing
everything I needed it to and jaws wasn't offering me any advantages that I
could see, so I switched. Pretty simple really. I have nothing against jaws,
used it for years, man I want to say from 3 or 4 or such.

As for addons, you might want to check out NVDA Remote. There's an addon for
Winamp and VLC. I've got Vocalizer for NVDA. The SysTrayList addon is nice,
but that's mostly because I can never remember if there's a quick way to get
to the system tray without it. NVDA works just fine without it, you can get
into the tray and right click and all, but the addon basically gives you the
equivalent of jaws-F11. A couple other jaws equivalents are Virtual Review
and Place Markers, the latter gives you place markers on web pages and some
other documents. Hope that helps.


Re: Slightly OT: Accessible blogging platform

Domingos de Oliveira <domingos20000@...>
 

https://make.wordpress.org/accessibility/


Am 28.10.2017 um 02:33 schrieb Supanut Leepaisomboon:
How can I contact the Wordpress.com accessibility team (if that team exists)?

-- 
Domingos de Oliveira
Accessibility Consultant
Karthäuserstraße 13
53129 Bonn
Tel: 0176 322 45 129
Web: www.netz-barrierefrei.de


Re: Accessing NVDA Menu

Chris
 

Its the NVDA key+N, that is N for November

Or in your case hold down the caps lock key and press the N key together

 

 

From: Andrea Sherry
Sent: 31 October 2017 22:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessing NVDA Menu

 

Using the capslock with NVDA key no longer works on my system.

 

Is anyone else having this problem?

 

Andrea

 

--

Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start

from now and make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad

 

 

 


Re: text tutorial of edge?

David Moore
 

The biggest thing about Edge that I can think of that might help a blind user, is that Narrator, the built in screen reader in Windows works very well in Edge, because Microsoft makes many apps in Win10 work with Narrator.

You could get the job done with Edge and Narrator!

Have a great one, Gene!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 2:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] text tutorial of edge?

 

Firefox has the same feature.  Chrome has an add on but when I tried it many months ago, it appeared to be inaccessible.  Whatever the case, does Edge have anything of benefit or interest to blind users that one or more other browsers don't have? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] text tutorial of edge?

 

Hi all!

I did email the Edge tutorial to the list.

It is a text tutorial, where I take you completely through Edge.

The reading mode in edge is so important.

CTRL+Shift+R turns Edge into a text reader only, and the rest of the web page is left out if you only want to read the text. This is huge!

Here is my text tutorial for using the Edge browser pasted right below.

Tutorial for Using Microsoft Edge

By

David Moore

I am using the latest public build of Windows 10 Creators update.

If you are using anything different than that, you might get different results.

When you can press spacebar or enter, I will list them both.

If I only list enter, that means that you can only use enter.

If I only list Spacebar, that means that you can only press spacebar to toggle something, for example.

I have a list of all key commands for Edge at the end of this tutorial. Through the tutorial, I will point out many key commands as well, as I go.

 

Section Number One

Opening the Edge Browser:

Press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape, to open the start area. Next, type Edge and enter when Narrator announces it.

Press enter, and the Edge browser should open.

 

Section Number Two

Opening the Freedom Scientific Web Site:

I pressed CTRL+L (alt+D works as well) and entered:

www.freedomscientific.com

That is the site for Freedom Scientific.

The web site came up very quickly.

I can use all navigation keys, like H for heading, C for Combo Box, E for edit area, , for example, just like other browsers, and they all work.

Section Three

Pressing alt+X to get a large Virticle Menu:

Now, I will now press ALT+X to open the settings and more menu! This is to the right of the address bar, but Alt+X opens this same menu. We have a lot in this virticle menu.a large virticle menu of choices. When I down arrow, I here the following:

New Window (CTRL+N), New InPrivate Window (CTRL+SHIFT+P), Zoom out, Zoom in, Cast media to device, Find on page, Print, Pin this page to Start, F12 Developer Tools, Open with Internet Explorer, Send feedback, Extensions, What's new and Tips, and finally, Settings. Extensions and Settings are the main two choices we are interested in with this menu. Key commands will do the rest.

Next, I will talk about settings.

Section Four:

Navigating settings and Advance settings:

Press alt+X again, and up arrow once to settings, because that is the last choice.

Press enter on settings.

You will hear:

Choose a Theme light.

Don't worry about that!

Tab once, and you will hear:

Open Microsoft Edge with a page or set of pages combo box.

This is how you choose how you want Microsoft Edge to open.

I have mine set to a specific page or pages.

Now, Tab again, and you have an edit field where you can type in your pages that you want opened When Microsoft Edge is launched.

I just entered:

www.google.com

Therefore, when I start Edge, the Google home page opens for me.

Tabbing again:

I hear delete button, where you can press spacebar or enter to delete your page or pages.

Tabbing again, I hear Add Button, where you can press spacebar or enter and add another page that you want to open when Edge is started.

Tabbing again, I hear:

Open new tabs with combo box.

I have this set to a blank page.

Tab again, and you will hear:

Import from another browser button.

You can press spacebar or enter here to import all favorites and settings from other browsers you use, like IE 11 or Chrome, or Firefox.

Tab again, and you will hear:

Show the favorites bar toggle.

I have this unchecked, because I do not want everyone to see my favorites on a bar right on the Edge Window. Press spacebar to check or uncheck..

Tab again, and you hear:

Choose what to clear.

If you press spacebar on this, you can tab and check or uncheck what is cleared when you delete your history. You can also choose whether this should be cleared every time you close the Edge browser.

Tab, and you will either hear Account Settings or your MSA account link, depending on your account setting.

Tabbing again, I hear:

Sync your favorites and reading list unchecked.

You definitely want to check this by pressing spacebar, so all of your Edge data will be synced between all of your devices. If you do not want this, then uncheck it with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Sync device settings link.

Tab again, and you hear:

View Advanced settings button.

This is important, and I will cover that in a bit.

Tab again, and you hear:

Terms of use link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Privacy statement link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Pin this pane button.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change my default button.

We are back to the beginning of settings. Now, let us go through the advanced settings.

Next, press Alt+X, and up arrow once to settings, and press enter. Now, Shift tab to Advanced settings, since that was almost at the end of what we tabbed through. Go ahead and enter on the advanced settings. There is a lot you can customise here.  Let’s tab through this menu.

Press enter on Advanced Settings, and you hear:

Show the home button toggle.

I have this pressed, by using spacebar, because I want my home page to show in the Edge Window!

Tab again, and you hear:

A specific page collapsed. This is what I want.

Tab again, and there is an edit field to put the URL of what you want your home page to be.

I want my home page to be the same page is my start page, so I just enter:

www.google.com

to be my home page.

Now:

www.google.com

is my start page and my home page.

To go back to your home page from anywhere, just press:

Alt+Home

Tab again, and you hear:

Save Button.

Press spacebar or enter on this to save your home page.

You now hear:

block pop-ups toggle.

I have mine unchecked, by using the spacebar, because I want pages to come up, that are considered pop-ups.

However, to keep safe, you should probably have that checked, so Edge will indeed block pop-ups.

This is up to you.

Tab again, and you hear:

Use Adobe Flash Player.

I have this checked, with the spacebar, because a lot of web sites still need Adobe flash to play videos and the like.

Tab again, and you hear:

Open sites in apps.

I have this checked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Choose which sites open in apps button.

I have this checked. Next, Choose which sites open in apps.  This will launch the Settings app where you can customize whether to open certain web site in an app or in the browser.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change button.

I hear change button, you can use this to change where to save downloaded files to.

Tab again, and you hear:

Ask me what to do with each download toggle.

I have that checked, with spacebar, because when I download something, I want it to ask me if I want to save or open and so on.

Tab again, and you hear:

Open Proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Manage button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Learn more link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Offer to save passwords toggle.

I checked this, with spacebar, so I can have a password saved if I want.

Tab again, and you hear:

Manage Passwords button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Save form entries toggle.

I have this checked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Send do not track requests toggle.

I have this unchecked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Have Cortana assist me in Microsoft Edge.

I have mine turnned on with spacebar. If you want this off, just press spacebar until you hear unchecked or off. sometimes, it will say on or off, or, it will say checked or unchecked. You will hear both ways spoken, but they are the same.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change Search Engine button:

This is important, because I pressed space bar or enter on that, and it was a combo box that was set on Bing. Keep that if you want, but I changed mine to Google.

I like Google to do my searches rather than Bing.

When you are done with this, Tab and hear will hear:

Back button.

Press space on that, to go back to the advanced settings that we are in.

The back button shows up a lot in Edge, so you can just go back to where you were.

Tab again, and you hear:

Show search and site suggestions as I type toggle.

I used spacebar to uncheck that, because I do not like suggestions to populate as I type in the address bar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Clear Bing search history link.

I did nothing with that.

Tab again, and you hear:

Optimize Taskbar web search results for screen readers.

Mine is check; to uncheck, just use spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Don't block cookies combo box collapsed.

I left that alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Let sites save protected media licenses on my device.

This is checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Use page prodiction to speed up websites.

I have this check. To uncheck, just use spacebar, but you want this checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Help protect me from malicious sites and downloads with Windows Defender Smartscreen toggle.

I kept this checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Pin this Pane button.

Tab again, and you hear:

Back button.

Guess what this is for.

Entering on this takes you back to just plain old settings.

Remember, we entered on Advanced settings within settings.

Pressing spacebar or enter on this back button, takes you back to settings where we chose our start page and all of that.

Therefore, we are all done with Settings.

Look at what you know already, just by pressing Alt+X, up arrow once to settings, and press enter, tab through settings, enter on advanced settings, tab through those settings, and press enter on the back button to get you back to settings, and just press escape twice to get out of settings, and you are back on the Freedom Scientific web site we started out with.

Important:

You must press escape twice to get out of settings and back on to the Freedom Scientific web site.

 

Section Five

Getting to, and navigating the Hub.

Now, I will show you how to get to the Hub.  The Hub is located just after the address bar area.  It has 5 tabs: Favorites, Reading list, Books, History and Downloads. However, instead of often coming here, we will activate three of these tabs with key commands right from your web site.

Now, this is where your starting place will be a lot in Edge:

Press alt+D or CTRL+L to get to the address bar or whatever it is called in Edge LOL!

Important, we will get to everything else by tabbing or shift tabbing from the address bar. However, you won't need to do this often, because we can activate this stuff by key commands right from the Web site. The address bar is your starting place, so you can tab to get to everything else that we will talk about in Edge. If you get on that address bar, you are set to get to everything else that is on top of the Edge Window.

So now, from the Freedom Scientific web site:

Press Alt+D or CTRL+L

You should hear the URL of the Freedom Scientific web site.

You are on the address bar, our starting place.

Tab once, and you hear:

Add to favorites or reading list button.

If you press enter here, you will save the Freedom Scientific web site that we are on in your favorites. However, you can do this by just pressing CTRL+D from the web site. Just press enter, and tab to save and press enter. This is how you will save a web site in your favorites.

Tab again, and you hear:

Hub ( Favorites, Reading List, Books, History, and Downloads toggle button not pressed.

Now, just tab a few times to get back to the web site. That is all you need to do from up here. You can also press F6 to get from this upper area back to the web site.

To get back to the Hub, press Ctrl + I to open the first tab in the Hub, the Favorites tab.

You will hear Narrator announce Hub, Favorites window, tab control, Favorite tab selected 1 of 5.

Here we are in our favorites.  I can tab twice to the list of favorites then arrow up and down through my favorites.

If I Shift+Tab twice, I am back on the five tabs. I can navigate these tabs, by just pressing the right and left arrow keys. Press right arrow, and you will hear the other four tabs, Reading list, Books, History, and Downloads.

When you right arrow to the Books tab, Tab from here, and I hear Get Books button, Sign in button, and Shop for Books button. This is exciting.

The fourth tab is the History tab, you can press Ctrl + H to get to it directly.

I can delete my history, and look at my history here.

The 5th and last tab, is my Downloads tab.  Open it by pressing Ctrl + J.  Here is where you come to view your downloads, and check on the status of a download in progress.

So, that is it for the HUB button.

I pressed Esc to get out of Hub. The only two tabs that there are not key commands to go to them are the Books and Reading list, which you will not use that much anyway.

I just want you to see that you can press right and left arrow keys on the tabs, but you can get to those tabs with one of the three key commands:

CTRL+I for the Favorites tab, CTRL+H, for the History Tab, and CTRL+J for the downloads tab.

We are done with using the Hub!

 

Section Six:

Key commands for using Microsoft Edge:

Here are many key commands to navigate and work with Edge. Many of these are the same as in other browsers.

Microsoft Edge keyboard shortcuts

table with 2 columns and 40 rows

Press this key

To do this 

Ctrl + D

Add current site to favorites or reading list

 Ctrl + I

Open favorites pane

 Ctrl + J

Open downloads pane

 Ctrl + H

Open history pane

 Ctrl + P

Print the current page

 Ctrl + F

Find on page

Alt + C

Open Cortana while you are in Edge!

Ctrl + Shift + R

Enter reading view

 Ctrl + T

Open a new tab 

Ctrl + Shift + T

Reopen the last closed tab 

Ctrl + W or Ctrl + F4

Close the active tab 

Ctrl + K

Duplicate tab 

Ctrl + N

Open a new window 

Ctrl + Shift + P

Open a new InPrivate Browsing window 

Ctrl + Tab

Switch to the next tab 

Ctrl + Shift + Tab

Switch to the previous tab 

Ctrl + 1, 2, 3, and so on

Switch to a specific tab number 

Ctrl + 9

Switch to the last tab 

Ctrl + plus

Zoom in (25%) 

Ctrl + minus

Zoom out (25%) 

Ctrl + 0

Reset zoom level 

Backspace or Alt + Left arrow

Go back to last web page

Alt + Right arrow

Go forward to next web page

F5 or Ctrl + R

Refresh the page 

Escape

Stop loading the page 

Ctrl + L or F4 or Alt + D

Select the address bar 

Ctrl + Shift + L

Open address bar query in a new tab 

Ctrl + E

Open a search query in the address bar 

Ctrl + Enter

Add www. to the beginning and .com to the end of text typed in the address bar 

Ctrl + click

Open link in a new tab 

Ctrl + Shift + click

Open link in a new tab and switch to that tab 

Alt + Shift + click

Open link in a new window  

Ctrl + Shift +M

 Start creating web notes 

Ctrl + Alt + M

 Copy selected content into a web note 

F12

Open F12 Developer Tools   

Ctrl + U

 View source 

F6

 Toggle focus between webpage content and the address bar 

F7

 Turn caret browsing on for the active tab 

Ctrl + Shift + Delete

 Show controls to clear browsing data

 

Please give me your feed back, and how much you hear what I hear when tabbing and the like.

That is all for this tutorial.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] text tutorial of edge?

 

Hi

 

There are written tutorials on the following page from off my website at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

They are for Microsoft edge and google chrome. I think they are in both written and audio.

 

I think David was the other person who put one across the list.

 

There is also a mail one that he wrote that he did.

 

he will most probably see the thread and reply.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 11/1/2017 9:10 AM, The Wolf wrote:

Hello I think it was david more who posted a text tutorial of microsoft edge

can I please get that resent?

also I think he did the chrome one as well can I get that one to?

thanks

Hank



 

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Re: text tutorial of edge?

Gene
 

Firefox has the same feature.  Chrome has an add on but when I tried it many months ago, it appeared to be inaccessible.  Whatever the case, does Edge have anything of benefit or interest to blind users that one or more other browsers don't have? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] text tutorial of edge?

Hi all!

I did email the Edge tutorial to the list.

It is a text tutorial, where I take you completely through Edge.

The reading mode in edge is so important.

CTRL+Shift+R turns Edge into a text reader only, and the rest of the web page is left out if you only want to read the text. This is huge!

Here is my text tutorial for using the Edge browser pasted right below.

Tutorial for Using Microsoft Edge

By

David Moore

I am using the latest public build of Windows 10 Creators update.

If you are using anything different than that, you might get different results.

When you can press spacebar or enter, I will list them both.

If I only list enter, that means that you can only use enter.

If I only list Spacebar, that means that you can only press spacebar to toggle something, for example.

I have a list of all key commands for Edge at the end of this tutorial. Through the tutorial, I will point out many key commands as well, as I go.

 

Section Number One

Opening the Edge Browser:

Press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape, to open the start area. Next, type Edge and enter when Narrator announces it.

Press enter, and the Edge browser should open.

 

Section Number Two

Opening the Freedom Scientific Web Site:

I pressed CTRL+L (alt+D works as well) and entered:

www.freedomscientific.com

That is the site for Freedom Scientific.

The web site came up very quickly.

I can use all navigation keys, like H for heading, C for Combo Box, E for edit area, , for example, just like other browsers, and they all work.

Section Three

Pressing alt+X to get a large Virticle Menu:

Now, I will now press ALT+X to open the settings and more menu! This is to the right of the address bar, but Alt+X opens this same menu. We have a lot in this virticle menu.a large virticle menu of choices. When I down arrow, I here the following:

New Window (CTRL+N), New InPrivate Window (CTRL+SHIFT+P), Zoom out, Zoom in, Cast media to device, Find on page, Print, Pin this page to Start, F12 Developer Tools, Open with Internet Explorer, Send feedback, Extensions, What's new and Tips, and finally, Settings. Extensions and Settings are the main two choices we are interested in with this menu. Key commands will do the rest.

Next, I will talk about settings.

Section Four:

Navigating settings and Advance settings:

Press alt+X again, and up arrow once to settings, because that is the last choice.

Press enter on settings.

You will hear:

Choose a Theme light.

Don't worry about that!

Tab once, and you will hear:

Open Microsoft Edge with a page or set of pages combo box.

This is how you choose how you want Microsoft Edge to open.

I have mine set to a specific page or pages.

Now, Tab again, and you have an edit field where you can type in your pages that you want opened When Microsoft Edge is launched.

I just entered:

www.google.com

Therefore, when I start Edge, the Google home page opens for me.

Tabbing again:

I hear delete button, where you can press spacebar or enter to delete your page or pages.

Tabbing again, I hear Add Button, where you can press spacebar or enter and add another page that you want to open when Edge is started.

Tabbing again, I hear:

Open new tabs with combo box.

I have this set to a blank page.

Tab again, and you will hear:

Import from another browser button.

You can press spacebar or enter here to import all favorites and settings from other browsers you use, like IE 11 or Chrome, or Firefox.

Tab again, and you will hear:

Show the favorites bar toggle.

I have this unchecked, because I do not want everyone to see my favorites on a bar right on the Edge Window. Press spacebar to check or uncheck..

Tab again, and you hear:

Choose what to clear.

If you press spacebar on this, you can tab and check or uncheck what is cleared when you delete your history. You can also choose whether this should be cleared every time you close the Edge browser.

Tab, and you will either hear Account Settings or your MSA account link, depending on your account setting.

Tabbing again, I hear:

Sync your favorites and reading list unchecked.

You definitely want to check this by pressing spacebar, so all of your Edge data will be synced between all of your devices. If you do not want this, then uncheck it with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Sync device settings link.

Tab again, and you hear:

View Advanced settings button.

This is important, and I will cover that in a bit.

Tab again, and you hear:

Terms of use link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Privacy statement link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Pin this pane button.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change my default button.

We are back to the beginning of settings. Now, let us go through the advanced settings.

Next, press Alt+X, and up arrow once to settings, and press enter. Now, Shift tab to Advanced settings, since that was almost at the end of what we tabbed through. Go ahead and enter on the advanced settings. There is a lot you can customise here.  Let’s tab through this menu.

Press enter on Advanced Settings, and you hear:

Show the home button toggle.

I have this pressed, by using spacebar, because I want my home page to show in the Edge Window!

Tab again, and you hear:

A specific page collapsed. This is what I want.

Tab again, and there is an edit field to put the URL of what you want your home page to be.

I want my home page to be the same page is my start page, so I just enter:

www.google.com

to be my home page.

Now:

www.google.com

is my start page and my home page.

To go back to your home page from anywhere, just press:

Alt+Home

Tab again, and you hear:

Save Button.

Press spacebar or enter on this to save your home page.

You now hear:

block pop-ups toggle.

I have mine unchecked, by using the spacebar, because I want pages to come up, that are considered pop-ups.

However, to keep safe, you should probably have that checked, so Edge will indeed block pop-ups.

This is up to you.

Tab again, and you hear:

Use Adobe Flash Player.

I have this checked, with the spacebar, because a lot of web sites still need Adobe flash to play videos and the like.

Tab again, and you hear:

Open sites in apps.

I have this checked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Choose which sites open in apps button.

I have this checked. Next, Choose which sites open in apps.  This will launch the Settings app where you can customize whether to open certain web site in an app or in the browser.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change button.

I hear change button, you can use this to change where to save downloaded files to.

Tab again, and you hear:

Ask me what to do with each download toggle.

I have that checked, with spacebar, because when I download something, I want it to ask me if I want to save or open and so on.

Tab again, and you hear:

Open Proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Manage button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Learn more link.

Tab again, and you hear:

Offer to save passwords toggle.

I checked this, with spacebar, so I can have a password saved if I want.

Tab again, and you hear:

Manage Passwords button.

I left this alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Save form entries toggle.

I have this checked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Send do not track requests toggle.

I have this unchecked with spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Have Cortana assist me in Microsoft Edge.

I have mine turnned on with spacebar. If you want this off, just press spacebar until you hear unchecked or off. sometimes, it will say on or off, or, it will say checked or unchecked. You will hear both ways spoken, but they are the same.

Tab again, and you hear:

Change Search Engine button:

This is important, because I pressed space bar or enter on that, and it was a combo box that was set on Bing. Keep that if you want, but I changed mine to Google.

I like Google to do my searches rather than Bing.

When you are done with this, Tab and hear will hear:

Back button.

Press space on that, to go back to the advanced settings that we are in.

The back button shows up a lot in Edge, so you can just go back to where you were.

Tab again, and you hear:

Show search and site suggestions as I type toggle.

I used spacebar to uncheck that, because I do not like suggestions to populate as I type in the address bar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Clear Bing search history link.

I did nothing with that.

Tab again, and you hear:

Optimize Taskbar web search results for screen readers.

Mine is check; to uncheck, just use spacebar.

Tab again, and you hear:

Don't block cookies combo box collapsed.

I left that alone.

Tab again, and you hear:

Let sites save protected media licenses on my device.

This is checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Use page prodiction to speed up websites.

I have this check. To uncheck, just use spacebar, but you want this checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Help protect me from malicious sites and downloads with Windows Defender Smartscreen toggle.

I kept this checked.

Tab again, and you hear:

Pin this Pane button.

Tab again, and you hear:

Back button.

Guess what this is for.

Entering on this takes you back to just plain old settings.

Remember, we entered on Advanced settings within settings.

Pressing spacebar or enter on this back button, takes you back to settings where we chose our start page and all of that.

Therefore, we are all done with Settings.

Look at what you know already, just by pressing Alt+X, up arrow once to settings, and press enter, tab through settings, enter on advanced settings, tab through those settings, and press enter on the back button to get you back to settings, and just press escape twice to get out of settings, and you are back on the Freedom Scientific web site we started out with.

Important:

You must press escape twice to get out of settings and back on to the Freedom Scientific web site.

 

Section Five

Getting to, and navigating the Hub.

Now, I will show you how to get to the Hub.  The Hub is located just after the address bar area.  It has 5 tabs: Favorites, Reading list, Books, History and Downloads. However, instead of often coming here, we will activate three of these tabs with key commands right from your web site.

Now, this is where your starting place will be a lot in Edge:

Press alt+D or CTRL+L to get to the address bar or whatever it is called in Edge LOL!

Important, we will get to everything else by tabbing or shift tabbing from the address bar. However, you won't need to do this often, because we can activate this stuff by key commands right from the Web site. The address bar is your starting place, so you can tab to get to everything else that we will talk about in Edge. If you get on that address bar, you are set to get to everything else that is on top of the Edge Window.

So now, from the Freedom Scientific web site:

Press Alt+D or CTRL+L

You should hear the URL of the Freedom Scientific web site.

You are on the address bar, our starting place.

Tab once, and you hear:

Add to favorites or reading list button.

If you press enter here, you will save the Freedom Scientific web site that we are on in your favorites. However, you can do this by just pressing CTRL+D from the web site. Just press enter, and tab to save and press enter. This is how you will save a web site in your favorites.

Tab again, and you hear:

Hub ( Favorites, Reading List, Books, History, and Downloads toggle button not pressed.

Now, just tab a few times to get back to the web site. That is all you need to do from up here. You can also press F6 to get from this upper area back to the web site.

To get back to the Hub, press Ctrl + I to open the first tab in the Hub, the Favorites tab.

You will hear Narrator announce Hub, Favorites window, tab control, Favorite tab selected 1 of 5.

Here we are in our favorites.  I can tab twice to the list of favorites then arrow up and down through my favorites.

If I Shift+Tab twice, I am back on the five tabs. I can navigate these tabs, by just pressing the right and left arrow keys. Press right arrow, and you will hear the other four tabs, Reading list, Books, History, and Downloads.

When you right arrow to the Books tab, Tab from here, and I hear Get Books button, Sign in button, and Shop for Books button. This is exciting.

The fourth tab is the History tab, you can press Ctrl + H to get to it directly.

I can delete my history, and look at my history here.

The 5th and last tab, is my Downloads tab.  Open it by pressing Ctrl + J.  Here is where you come to view your downloads, and check on the status of a download in progress.

So, that is it for the HUB button.

I pressed Esc to get out of Hub. The only two tabs that there are not key commands to go to them are the Books and Reading list, which you will not use that much anyway.

I just want you to see that you can press right and left arrow keys on the tabs, but you can get to those tabs with one of the three key commands:

CTRL+I for the Favorites tab, CTRL+H, for the History Tab, and CTRL+J for the downloads tab.

We are done with using the Hub!

 

Section Six:

Key commands for using Microsoft Edge:

Here are many key commands to navigate and work with Edge. Many of these are the same as in other browsers.

Microsoft Edge keyboard shortcuts

table with 2 columns and 40 rows

Press this key

To do this 

Ctrl + D

Add current site to favorites or reading list

 Ctrl + I

Open favorites pane

 Ctrl + J

Open downloads pane

 Ctrl + H

Open history pane

 Ctrl + P

Print the current page

 Ctrl + F

Find on page

Alt + C

Open Cortana while you are in Edge!

Ctrl + Shift + R

Enter reading view

 Ctrl + T

Open a new tab 

Ctrl + Shift + T

Reopen the last closed tab 

Ctrl + W or Ctrl + F4

Close the active tab 

Ctrl + K

Duplicate tab 

Ctrl + N

Open a new window 

Ctrl + Shift + P

Open a new InPrivate Browsing window 

Ctrl + Tab

Switch to the next tab 

Ctrl + Shift + Tab

Switch to the previous tab 

Ctrl + 1, 2, 3, and so on

Switch to a specific tab number 

Ctrl + 9

Switch to the last tab 

Ctrl + plus

Zoom in (25%) 

Ctrl + minus

Zoom out (25%) 

Ctrl + 0

Reset zoom level 

Backspace or Alt + Left arrow

Go back to last web page

Alt + Right arrow

Go forward to next web page

F5 or Ctrl + R

Refresh the page 

Escape

Stop loading the page 

Ctrl + L or F4 or Alt + D

Select the address bar 

Ctrl + Shift + L

Open address bar query in a new tab 

Ctrl + E

Open a search query in the address bar 

Ctrl + Enter

Add www. to the beginning and .com to the end of text typed in the address bar 

Ctrl + click

Open link in a new tab 

Ctrl + Shift + click

Open link in a new tab and switch to that tab 

Alt + Shift + click

Open link in a new window  

Ctrl + Shift +M

 Start creating web notes 

Ctrl + Alt + M

 Copy selected content into a web note 

F12

Open F12 Developer Tools   

Ctrl + U

 View source 

F6

 Toggle focus between webpage content and the address bar 

F7

 Turn caret browsing on for the active tab 

Ctrl + Shift + Delete

 Show controls to clear browsing data

 

Please give me your feed back, and how much you hear what I hear when tabbing and the like.

That is all for this tutorial.

David Moore

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From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] text tutorial of edge?

 

Hi

 

There are written tutorials on the following page from off my website at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

They are for Microsoft edge and google chrome. I think they are in both written and audio.

 

I think David was the other person who put one across the list.

 

There is also a mail one that he wrote that he did.

 

he will most probably see the thread and reply.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 11/1/2017 9:10 AM, The Wolf wrote:

Hello I think it was david more who posted a text tutorial of microsoft edge

can I please get that resent?

also I think he did the chrome one as well can I get that one to?

thanks

Hank




 

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Re: Updated In-Process

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Zarah

It has nothing with the nvda in particular, it just that normally Halloween is festival or observant of the traditional during the eve of November. To make it clear what exactly is the Halloween here is the link for your reference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

Robert Mendoza

On 11/1/2017 2:19 PM, zahra wrote:
hello quentin.
did you read my comment in your previous email?
i opened the link without any problem, you did not tell me whats the
meaning of Halloween
God bless you and his infinite mercy i pray for you!!

On 11/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm not sure what happened with my link in the last message, but here is an
updated link to an updated post - I've included links to some of the
fantastic community contributions we got for Halloween! Feel free to join
in and I'll update the post again as needed:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-halloween-2017-edition/

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: text tutorial of edge?

David Moore
 

Hi all!

Here is my text tutorial on using the Chrome Browser as well.

Chrome works very well with NVDA and JAWS.

Edge works great with NVDA, and JAWS works pretty well in Edge.

I take you totally through how to use, and customize all settings in Chrome.

Here is the tutorial pasted right below.

Tutorial for Using the Google Chrome Browser

By David Moore

This tutorial will be done with the latest update of Chrome.

I will also use JAWS 18 and NVDA 2017.2for this tutorial, because they both work the same in Chrome.

Finally, I will use Windows 10 Creators Update latest public build.

I will assume that you have downloaded and installed Chrome.

There should be a shortcut on your desktop.

 

Section One:

Launching Chrome:

One way to Launch Chrome, is to press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape and type Chrome in the search edit field, and press enter when you hear JAWS say Chrome.

However, since you have already downloaded Chrome, You will have a shortcut icon on your desktop.

So next, find the shortcut for Chrome on your desktop, and press enter to open Chrome.

The short cut will actually say Google Chrome, so press G to find the Google Chrome icon on your desktop.

The first very important step, is to press Windows+up arrow to maximise the window. Chrome often opens with the window not maximise, and you will get undesirable results.

 

Section Two:

Bringing up a web site.

Press CTRL+L or Alt+D

and type the following:

www.freedomscientific.com

The Freedom Scientific web site comes up very quickly.

All navigation commands like: H for heading, E for edit field, C for combo box, and so on all work just the same in Chrome.

 

Section Three:

The Virticle Chrome menu:

I will press Alt+F.

The Chrome menu is open.

This is a very large virticle menu that you just keep pressing up and down arrow through.

I will press insert+up arrow to hear the first option in this menu.

New Tab, CTRL+T.

You can press that command right from the web site you are on.

New Window, CTRL+N

You can press these commands right from your web page, instead of coming here.

New incognito Window.

History sub menu.

I will press right arrow here to see what is in this sub menu!

History, CTRL+H

So, there is a key command for reading your history.

You can read a few sites you were on right here.

I will press left arrow to close this history sub menu.

Downloads, CTRL+J

There is the command for opening your downloads you have downloaded with Chrome.

Next, the important Bookmarks sub menu.

I will press right arrow, to open this.

I hear, bookmark this page, CTRL+D

That command will bookmark the page you are reading.

Next down arrow, says show bookmarks bar, CTRL+Shift+B

That command, will show your bookmarks on your Chrome browser for all to see. I do not want that.

Here is the important one.

manage bookmarks

The command is, CTRL+Shift+O

In here, you can organize your bookmarks into folders, see the bookmarks you have imported from different browsers, and very importantly, you can download, to your computer, an HTML file of all of your bookmarks in Chrome.

On your computer, you can press enter on this file, after it downloads, and a page will show up in Chrome with a list of all bookmarks you have saved in Chrome. This is an awesome way to download all of your bookmarks right to your computer, so you can back them up.

That is all for manage bookmarks.

Next, I hear import bookmarks and settings.

press enter on this, and you can import all bookmarks and settings from IE, and Firefox, right into Google Chrome, and they will be in their corresponding folders.

Now, I hear all of my saved bookmarks as I continue to arrow down.

Very important!

Sometimes, when I open that bookmarks sub menu, I do not land on the choices I mension here, but instead, I start hearing my saved bookmarks. If this happens, I press up arrow a few times, and it gets me to these choices.

Keep in mind, that many of these choices, like bookmark manager, have key commands, so you do not have to come to this bookmarks sub menu at all. You only need to come here most of the time, to arrow through your saved bookmarks, and enter on the desired one.

To save a web site as a bookmark,

Just press CTRL+D and press enter, and your bookmark is saved.

I will now press left arrow, to close the Bookmarks sub menu!

I will continue to down arrow through this virticle Chrome menu that we entered by just pressing alt.

The next few are very self explanatory.

The next one I will mension, is the more tools submenu.

I will press right arrow on this.

I hear Save Page as, and the command, CTRL+S.

Next, Save to desktop.

This allows you to save the favorite of the page right to your desktop. This is how you do this in Chrome, instead of doing this in the file menu in IE.

It is hidden under this more tools submenu.

Clear Browsing data, and there is the key command, CTRL+Shift+Delete key.

Extentions, In here, you can add extentions, delete extentions and so on.

These are the same as add ons, in IE.

I will press left arrow, to close the More Tools sub menu, and we are back to the virticle Chrome menu.

The last two that I will mention, are settings, and the help sub menu.

If you press the left arrow on the help sub menu, you can open the help system, just like in other programs, so that is all I will say about help.

Now, we will press enter on settings, and a web like page will open where the virtual cursor will turn on with JAWS, and NVDA will be in Brows mode.

 

Section Four:

Adjusting Settings and Advanced settings:

Now that this web page is open, I will just down arrow down the page and we will deal with each setting.

Important:

I have already signed into Chrome.

So now, arrow down until you hear sign into Chrome and press enter.

You just enter your email address and password, I think it has to be the same email address and password that you used to set up your Google account.

I am not sure about this.

You do not need to sign into Chrome, if you do, you can sync all of your activity between all devices that you have Chrome on. That is the only advantage of signing in.

I will continue with what I hear after you have signed in.

If you do not sign in, press H until you hear Appearance.

Each group of settings is a heading that you can get to by pressing H. This makes it very easy, because you just press H until you hear the group of settings you want to work with.

Now, because I have signed in, this is what I hear before getting to appearance.

The first thing you hear:

Settings.

That is the very top of the web page.

Down arrow, and you hear:

Main Menu Button.

That will just take you back to the virticle menu we were in.

If you down arrow again, you will just hear blank.

Down arrow, again, and you hear:

Settings again, but now, this is a heading. You can get here just by pressing H at the top of the page.

If you down arrow, you hear:

Search Settings.

This is where you can type in a setting that you want to change.

Down arrow again, and there is the edit field where you type in the setting you want to work with.

Down arrow again, and you hear another heading saying people.

Down arrow again, and I hear David Clickable.

This is because I have already signed into Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear my Gmail email address.

Again, this is because I have already signed into Chrome to sync my settings and all of that.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Edit person.

This is where I could change my name.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sign Out.

This is because I have already signed in to Chrome.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

Sync.

Down arrow again, and I hear:

On, Sync everything.

This is a combo box, where you can choose what to sinc; I chose everything in this combo box.

Again, all of this is because I have signed into Chrome already.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Sync button.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people clickable.

Don't worry about the clickables. There is a clickable for many things, but then there is the button you enter on right after that.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Manage other people button.

This is what you would press enter on to set up another user.

Down arrow again, and you hear:

Import bookmarks and settings Clickable:

Down arrow again, and you actually hear

Import bookmarks and settings button.

Here, you press enter and import all of your bookmarks and settings from other Browsers like IE.

This is another way of doing this, because remember,

We had a choice of manage bookmarks in the book marks sub menu in the virticle menu.

There is more than one place to do things in Chrome.

Now, we have a series of headings, that you can just press H for heading, to get to.

Now, we have gotten to the appearance heading. Down arrow and you hear:

themes, which I did nothing with.

Next, you can open the Chrome web store. You can get hundreds of extentions, and more.

Then, you hear Themes button.

Do nothing with this.

Next, you hear:

Show home clickable.

Just skip that.

There are many buttons that say clickable, and then there is a button that you actually press enter on to work with it.

Just work with the buttons, and skip over these vclickables.

Down arrow, and you have an edit box where you can put in your home page you want to get to by pressing Alt+Home.

Next, there is the home button toggle.

Press the spacebar to turn this on or off. If it is on, you can have the home button show at the top of the Chrome Window.

I have it checked.

Now, there are two radio buttons, and I chose the one to enter with a custom web address.

Search Heading:

We are at another heading, where you can set your search Engine.

There is a combo box below, and I set it to Chrome, because I like to have my searches from the address bar done with Crome instead of Bing.

Next heading:

Default Browser.

Here, you can choose weather you want Chrome to be your default browser or not.

Just leave this alone if you do not want Chrome to be your default browser.

Next Important heading:

On Start up.

Here is where you put in your URL that you want to show as soon as you start Chrome.

There are three radio buttons to pick from, but I chose to open with a specific page or pages, which is the third radio button.

Under this, you can type in the URL of the web site that you want to open when you start Chrome.

Under this, there is a link where you can add more pages you want to show when Chrome starts up.

Now, we are up to the search engin heading.

This is a heading.

There are headings on this settings page.

I chose to use Google search engin in the address bar. This is a combo box.

The next heading, is on start up.

Finally, here is where you set up your home page.

There are three radio buttons here.

I chose the third one, to open a selected page or selected pages.

Next, I was able to enter:

www.Google.Com.

That is my home page that will open each time I start Chrome.

Next important group of settings, the advanced settings.

Now, you have to press enter on the advanced settings button before more headings of settings will show.

The Advanced settings are collapsed, so you have to press enter to show more headings of settings.

Now that these advanced settings are open, we get to the next heading of settings.

There is much more we can customize under the advanced settings.

Privacy and security heading:

Down arrow from here, and you hear:

Use a web service to resolve navigation errors.

You have a clickable, and a toggle.

Press spacebar to toggle this on or off.

Again, ignore the clickables.

Now you have:

Use a prodiction service to enable you in searches.

I left this unchecked.

Next, you have a setting to speed up the loading of web pages:

I checked this with spacebar.

The next three settings I just left alone.

I checked the one that says:

Use a web service to help with spelling.

I leave manage certificates alone.

Next, you have content settings, but this is not a new heading.

We are still working with the same heading.

The only thing of interest here, is the clear history button.

This was available in the virtical menu, so don't worry about this.

Now, we get to the next heading of settings.

Passwords and forms:

Under this heading, just make sure that you check to be able to have Chrome save passwords.

Languages Heading:

I did nothing with this.

Downloads heading:

This is where you choose where you want your downloads to be saved on your computer.

Printing heading:

I did nothing with this.

Accessibility heading:

I did nothing with this.

Now, we have the System heading:

Down arrow, and you hear:

Continue running background apps, when Google Chrome is Closed.

I have this unchecked.

Next,

Use hard ware excelloration when Available.

I have this checked.

Next, you hear:

Open proxy settings button.

I left this alone.

Last Heading LOL!

Reset.

Here, you can reset all settings back to their origional.

We are done with Settings.

Now, just press CTRL+F4 to get back to the Freedom Scientific Web site.

This settings web page, opens in another tab.

That is it for settings.

Notice, we made a lot of changes under the advanced settings. You cannot see these, unless you press enter to expand these.

Now, press the Alt key again. Up arrow once to get to the end of the menu where we were with the settings.

You see exit, up arrow and you see the help sub menu, right under the settings choice.

I press right arrow on this help sub menu, and you can enter on the help center to get a lot of help using Chrome.

To open a web site, just press CTRL+L or Alt+D and type the URL.

Chrome for me, is so much quicker with web sites that involve streamming TV and Watching movies, and so on.

For me, Chrome opens large news sites very quickly compared to IE.

Lastly, All JAWS and NVDA navigation key commands work in Chrome. For example, you can press F7 to open a list of links with JAWS, and the elements list with NVDA. All of that is the exact same.

This is the end of the tutorial.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] text tutorial of edge?

 

Hi

 

There are written tutorials on the following page from off my website at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

They are for Microsoft edge and google chrome. I think they are in both written and audio.

 

I think David was the other person who put one across the list.

 

There is also a mail one that he wrote that he did.

 

he will most probably see the thread and reply.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 11/1/2017 9:10 AM, The Wolf wrote:

Hello I think it was david more who posted a text tutorial of microsoft edge

can I please get that resent?

also I think he did the chrome one as well can I get that one to?

thanks

Hank




 

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