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Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I think the problem is, what is it that is getting things to be sluggish, which is often the reason for unknown occurring. If somebody could identify that then it could be fixed. Its a bit like these people whose answer to every windows problem is reformat and reinstall. its not an answer, its just setting the clock back to zero again. IE you are not curing the underlying issue.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Florian Ionașcu" <florianionascu@hotmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda


Hello, I also have a suggestion for future NVDA releases. A repair option in the installation process might be useful, I'll tell you why. Someone has one or more problems with NVDA and wants to fix them without uninstalling.
Someone wrote in the Romanian community that NVDA does lag when he's typing something. I told him to return to the default configuration and this worked for him But, another person contacted me privately to ttell me that NVDA has a strange behavior. When navigating on Skype or browsers with tab, it says "unknown" instead of reading the content. He reseted the configuration, uninstalled the add-ons, restarted NVDA several times, but no result. I told him to reinstall NVDA.
So, a repair option is required in this case. As I remember, JAWS has this option in the installation wizard. I haven't used it for a long time.
That's over for now. What do you think about my suggestion?
Cheers,
Florian


Re: Presenting PPTX with viewer

Michal Rada
 

Powerpoint viewer is not accessible too, sadly.

M


Dne 23.10.2017 v 20:46 zahra napsal(a):

hello.
i heard that word viewer is not accessible, not sure about office viewers.
hope that help, God bless you all.

On 10/22/17, Michal Rada <michal@michalrada.cz> wrote:
Hi there, Please, is any way to accessible present PPTX presentation in
Powerpoint viewer? I present many presentations and now i will do it in
W10 virtual machne thats not Office installed. I downůoaded Powerpoint
viewer from MS site and surprised, in vieweer NVDA reads "Presentation
slide" only. In full powered powerpoint it works good.

M





Re: NVDA and Windows 10

Michal Rada
 

It may be unsolved feeling of new locking screen. Are you sure you MUST enter password? Please be carefully, it must says that now its time to enter password.

Now you must press two keys, first for switching from first screen to lock screen and second to switch focus to password or PIN field. I recommend CTRL key because it has no other function here.

M


Dne 23.10.2017 v 19:29 Rosemarie Chavarria napsal(a):

I only have to type in my password one time after starting the computer.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Windows 10

Hi,
Has anyone else noticed after the upgrade that when you start your computer
you have to type in the password twice?
I don't think it is, but is this a problem caused by NVDA?
If not, does anyone know how to fix it?
Thanks
Chris





Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Michal Rada
 

Addon is Rapid settings, download it here https://bitbucket.org/nvdaaddonteam/rapidsettings



Dne 23.10.2017 v 17:55 Karim Lakhani napsal(a):

where or how does one accomplish this task?


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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Michal Rada
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi, there is special addon in which you can set all settings in
one place, as Control center in Jaws. You may install it and
enjoy it, its cool and verry usefull method of setting all.

Odesláno z iPhonu

23. 10. 2017 v 10:51, Alexander Masic <list@masic.se>:

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be
some space for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like
nvda very mutch, and you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in
general. However there is a few things wich iritate my mutch. And
most imprtant is how the menu-system are organised. I would like
to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can toggle
betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I
am able to made all settings at once. As it is today, you must do
the settings in a one section, then press ok, opend menu again
and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.
So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new
thinking. I am also glad to se that older windows longer will not
be supported. Because this older windows is virusmashin, and by
supporting them, NVDA is also encurage spread of virus.
So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to
se little new way thinking.







Re: people app question

David Moore
 

Hi Rosemarie!

Thanks a lot!

I am so happy I can help!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 11:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] people app question

 

Hi, David,

 

This is very helpful.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] people app question

 

Hi Gary and all!

Wile in the body of a message using the Win10 Mail app, to add a contact of the sender to the people app, do the following.

Step one:

Shift tab four times from the message body.

Step two:

Press enter on the person’s name and the word from.

For example, you will hear:

David Moore from.

Press enter on that.

The people app will open with the information already there.

Just press tab twice to the save button, and press enter.

You are left in the people app, so just Alt+F4 out of that, and you go right back to the mail app where you pressed enter on the person’s name.

Just tab four times back to the message body where you started.

That is it.

Have a great one, Gary and all, and I hope this helps.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] people app question

 

Hi All,

 

I want to start using the mail app and I have a question.  Can you easily put a new contact into the people app while in an e mail message?  I am using the latest nvda and win 10.  Thanks for any help.

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 

 

 


Re: Some suggest for future nvda

 

hello.
i agree completely with you about adding repair feature to nvda to not
use to uninstall when facing problem.

On 10/24/17, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi, Rapid settings I might have it don't know why but it is not on the
addons page.

On 23/10/2017 22:36, Arlene wrote:
Hi, what's the name of that addon?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michal
Rada
Sent: October-23-17 5:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi, there is special addon in which you can set all settings in one place,
as Control center in Jaws. You may install it and enjoy it, its cool and
verry usefull method of setting all.

Odesláno z iPhonu

23. 10. 2017 v 10:51, Alexander Masic <list@masic.se>:

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some
space for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very
mutch, and you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However
there is a few things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the
menu-system are organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in
fleaks wich i can toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an
reinstallation of NVDA then I am able to made all settings at once. As it
is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok, opend
menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking.
I am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported.
Because this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA
is also encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little
new way thinking.












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require an accessable drive cloning software.

Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>
 

Can someone suggest and accessible drive cloning software.
I do not want to run disc imaging software because I have ran active
at disc image but when I restore the image back to the same computer
it will not boot.
so if you have different drive cloning software or if you have
restored Windows 10 successful using any drive imaging software you
can recommend.
the computer that I am trying this on is a uefi based bios and the
hard drive is converted to a GPT format partition and is secure boot
enable on UEFI.


Re: people app question

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,

 

This is very helpful.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 7:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] people app question

 

Hi Gary and all!

Wile in the body of a message using the Win10 Mail app, to add a contact of the sender to the people app, do the following.

Step one:

Shift tab four times from the message body.

Step two:

Press enter on the person’s name and the word from.

For example, you will hear:

David Moore from.

Press enter on that.

The people app will open with the information already there.

Just press tab twice to the save button, and press enter.

You are left in the people app, so just Alt+F4 out of that, and you go right back to the mail app where you pressed enter on the person’s name.

Just tab four times back to the message body where you started.

That is it.

Have a great one, Gary and all, and I hope this helps.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] people app question

 

Hi All,

 

I want to start using the mail app and I have a question.  Can you easily put a new contact into the people app while in an e mail message?  I am using the latest nvda and win 10.  Thanks for any help.

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 

 


Re: Using Win 10's Mail App

David Moore
 

Hi Pauline!

I wrote a text tutorial on using the Mail, Calendar, and People apps.

The instructions work with any screen reader.

I will just paste it right here in the message, so you and everyone else can read it right here in the message.

Here is my tutorial right below!

Here is the start of the tutorial.

Tutorial on Using the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.

By

David Moore

All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial.

Intruduction:

 

I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app,

your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app.

So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience.

The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more.

Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app.

Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.

Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services.  You can add any of these Microsoft accounts:

Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com.  You can also add any of these accounts:

Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.

 

Section One

Launching the Windows 10 Mail App

So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.

Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.

 

Section Two:

Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar:

Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.

You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.

To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.

just type:

shell:appsfolder

In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.

Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.

Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:

Create short cut.

Enter on that, and you will hear:

Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead?

Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.

To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example.

When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to:

Pin to taskbar and press enter.

The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.

You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.

 

Section Three

A Few Key Commands to get started:

Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well.

When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing:

Caps Lock+Spacebar.

That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.

You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.

You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off.

Scan Mode is just for reading.

When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.

Now, to work with messages:

to send your message, press

alt+S.

To reply to a message:

press ctrl+R.

to forward a message:

press CTRL+F.

to create a new message:

press CTRL+N.

As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.

To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.

You can then brows for the file you want to attach.

All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial.

 

Section Four:

Importing your first account into the Mail App

Now, let us add our first account.

From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter.

If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter.

Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.

You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so

on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password.

Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.

Now, press enter again on the:

done button.

Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months.

Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice:

Go to the account choice:

other account, IMAP or POP.

Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account.

Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings.

For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account.

The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.

The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.

To import all of your accounts:

Just follow the same instructions written above.

You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import.

It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app.

You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.

Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App.

This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience.

After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox.

Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens.

If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore.

Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want.

Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.

Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane.

We are all done with the Manage accounts option.

 

Section Five:

Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key

Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App.

Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts.

A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab.

Now I will Tab.

I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.

Tabbing:

I hear Navigation button collapsed.

You want to press enter to hear:

Navigation button expanded.

If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app.

Tab again, and you hear:

New Mail Button.

This is what you activate by pressing the key command:

CTRL+N

You do not need this button.

Tab: and you hear:

Manage accounts.

That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts.

Tab:

You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app.

If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.

Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.

You have Folders Button.

Sub Section:

Folders Button.

When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here.

In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button:

The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account.

You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter.

You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder.

Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on:

Create New Folder

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder.

This will create a new folder for that account.

This is all in the Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane.

On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10.

You can now down arrow through the following choices:

Add to Favorites Button

Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder.

Next choice when pressing applications Key:

, Create new subfolder Button

Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to.

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter.

The third choice:

Rename Button

The fourth choice:

Delete Button

Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.

Fifth Choice:

Move Button

Sixth Choice:

Empty folder Button

Seventh and last Choice:

Pin to Start Button

To review:

When you arrow to a folder, you can press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10,

and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.

You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says.

We are all done with the Folders Button.

Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again.

If you tab from the Folders Button,

You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.

You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders.

You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these.

They are right here in a list.

I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list.

I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders.

I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most.

Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder.

You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder.

Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:

Moore Button.

This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!

Forget the More Button LOL!

Tab again:

Switch to Calendar Button:

Tab:

Switch to People Button:

Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps.

You can have all three opened at the same time.

Tab:

Settings Button:

 

Sub Section:

We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button.

Settings Button

Press Enter on Settings Button.

Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.

Reading Settings

There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group.

You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.

I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group.

Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view.

You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads.

You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view.

Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.

Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings.

Signature Settings Group:

This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything.

Press Enter on Signature Settings.

In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature

If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default.

It says:

sent from mail for windows 10.

If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send.

You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.

If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle.

Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group.

If you press:

Escape

You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App.

That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.

There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages.

Tab from Settings Button:

There is a search edit box.

If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box,

it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them.

This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly.

I use this a lot.

You can get right to that search box,

by pressing:

CTRL+E

You do not have to tab to that LOL!

Tab, and you have:

Sync this View Button.

If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that:

sync this View button.

Tab again, and you have:

Enter Selection Mode Button.

This is important.

When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference.

There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want.

Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:

Enter sellection Mode Button was.

Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked.

you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked.

After you check messages, you can press the:

applications Key or Shift+F10

and you will have the following choices:

Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu.

If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder.

Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder.

 

Section Six:

Working with your messages:

Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load.

Here we go LOL!

Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages.

Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode.

When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.

The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA.

With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages.

To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app.

Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message.

when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages

You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message.

Now, let me give you some important key commands right here.

tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7.

Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:

Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press:

Alt+I to attach a file.

To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email.

Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word.

Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.

Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client.

People app:

Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app.

Calendar app:

Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app.

 

Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps:

Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)

CTRL+M

Or

F9

Mark as read

CTRL+Q

Mark as unread

CTRL+U

Toggle the important property on a conversation

CTRL+SHIFT+G

Delete a conversation

CTRL+D

Or

DEL

Archive a conversation

BACKSPACE

Reply to current mail

CTRL+R

Reply all

CTRL+SHIFT+R

Forward current mail

CTRL+F

Search

CTRL+E

Or

F3

Create a new mail

CTRL+N

Or

CTRL+SHIFT+M

Add Attachment

ALT+I

Send mail

ALT+S

Or

Ctrl + Enter

Switch to Inbox

CTRL+SHIFT+I

Switch to Outbox

CTRL+SHIFT+O

Zoom in

CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)

Zoom out

CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)

Move between regions

F6

Toggle Caret Browsing

F7

Key commands for the Calendar app:

Accept Meeting Invitation

Alt+C

Decline Meeting Invitation

Alt+D

Tentative Meeting Invitation

Alt+N

Move to View

CTRL+SHIFT+V

Switch to the calendar in the mail app

CTRL+2

 

Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time

Take care,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Pauline Smith
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 10:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Win 10's Mail App

 

Good Evening,

Now that I have altered the subject line, here's my question. Where can you find instructions on using the Mail app with a screen reader?  Naturally, NVDA is the screen reader being used.

Pauline


On 10/23/2017 1:16 AM, David Moore wrote:

Beautiful, Rosemarie!

The mail app rules LOL!

I am happy for you!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 1:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi, David,

 

I’m now using the mail app and the reply is working great. I didn’t have to shift tab and come back to the edit field where you’d type the reply.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Good for you, Gary!

It came through loud and clear!

Let me know if you need any help with the Mail, Calendar, or People apps.

I am very relaxed tonight, and I am having fun on here.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi David,

 

Thanks for the info.

I am replying  to this message using the mail app.

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

No, there is not!

You have to enter on the trash folder, and select all messages, and press delete.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi David,

 

So, in the mail app there is no way to have the trash folder emptied when exiting the progam like in wlm?  Thanks for any help.  

 

From: David Moore

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

I use the mail app all the time, and I do the same thing.

CTRL+R and hitting alt twice, always does the trick.

You guys are right!

Thanks for clearing that up, because I love using the mail app, but it does have a few little kinks like that LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Yes, that is what he was asking about. I'm glad I was able to clarify this for you.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Yes, and if that is what the person was asking about, that is good information.  If I were using the app, I'd use control r, then press alt twice, at least that's what I think I would do, not having used the program. 

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi, Gene,

 

In the mail app, if you try typing something after hitting control R, you get a message that says something like "no document". You either have to shift tab to the subject line and tab back to the edit field for replying or hit the alt key and enter to hear the subject line.

 

I hope this clarifies things a little better for you.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

I know but what he said is that when he uses the command control r to reply, he doesn't hear the command spoken.  I'm saying that it doesn't matter if you hear the command control r spoken.  If he is discussing something else, what is it?  I don't use the mail app but until I hear further, I will assume that control r is the reply short cut command because that command is so standard in Windows e-mail programs.  Is there some other problem such as that when using the command, you don't hear something like the re subject line spoken to tell you that the command has been executed?

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:17 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi, Gene,

 

With all due respect, the person asking the question is asking about the mail app which works a bit differently than other programs. He wasn't asking about windows live mail or other programs.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Why is the question being asked in the first place?  Unless you have NVDA set to speak keys such as control, shift, the arrow keys, etc. you won't hear such commands spoken at any time.  You know from the response of programs what is occurring.  If the reply message opens, NVDA will say something that will tell you that a reply message has opened.  If you hear nothing or somethin incorrect, you have issued the wrong command or the command didn't work properly.  When I issue a command that should result in something being spoken, I don't continue until I hear the start of the speech confirming the command.  If I do, I might start writing a message before the program is ready to receive it or take an action in another program before the program is ready to take the action.  Being excessively dependent on hearing keys announced and basing what you do on hearing keys announced rather than the response of Windows or the program you are working in isn't a good way to work with Windows or programs.  I don't have such keys announced, which is the default, because it wouldn't benefit me in any way to hear them announced.  Even if I did hear them announced, I wouldn't take actions until the program indicated that it was ready to have actions taken.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:07 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi, Gary,

 

What I did to hear the keys spoken was to hit the alt key. It says "lower ribbon reply control R". Then I hit enter on a message to reply and heard the keys spoken.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Thanks Rosemary.

I have a question.  When using the mail app and I reply to a message using ctrl r I don’t hear the keys spoken.  Is this normal behavior?  Thanks,

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

I got it.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] test

 

Hi All,

 

I am writing this message in the win10 mail app.

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: people app question

David Moore
 

Hi Gary and all!

Wile in the body of a message using the Win10 Mail app, to add a contact of the sender to the people app, do the following.

Step one:

Shift tab four times from the message body.

Step two:

Press enter on the person’s name and the word from.

For example, you will hear:

David Moore from.

Press enter on that.

The people app will open with the information already there.

Just press tab twice to the save button, and press enter.

You are left in the people app, so just Alt+F4 out of that, and you go right back to the mail app where you pressed enter on the person’s name.

Just tab four times back to the message body where you started.

That is it.

Have a great one, Gary and all, and I hope this helps.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 4:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] people app question

 

Hi All,

 

I want to start using the mail app and I have a question.  Can you easily put a new contact into the people app while in an e mail message?  I am using the latest nvda and win 10.  Thanks for any help.

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 

 


Using Win 10's Mail App

Pauline Smith
 

Good Evening,

Now that I have altered the subject line, here's my question. Where can you find instructions on using the Mail app with a screen reader?  Naturally, NVDA is the screen reader being used.

Pauline



On 10/23/2017 1:16 AM, David Moore wrote:

Beautiful, Rosemarie!

The mail app rules LOL!

I am happy for you!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 1:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi, David,

 

I’m now using the mail app and the reply is working great. I didn’t have to shift tab and come back to the edit field where you’d type the reply.

 

Rosemarie

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Good for you, Gary!

It came through loud and clear!

Let me know if you need any help with the Mail, Calendar, or People apps.

I am very relaxed tonight, and I am having fun on here.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi David,

 

Thanks for the info.

I am replying  to this message using the mail app.

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 

From: David Moore
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

No, there is not!

You have to enter on the trash folder, and select all messages, and press delete.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gary Metzler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi David,

 

So, in the mail app there is no way to have the trash folder emptied when exiting the progam like in wlm?  Thanks for any help.  

 

From: David Moore

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

I use the mail app all the time, and I do the same thing.

CTRL+R and hitting alt twice, always does the trick.

You guys are right!

Thanks for clearing that up, because I love using the mail app, but it does have a few little kinks like that LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 7:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Yes, that is what he was asking about. I'm glad I was able to clarify this for you.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Yes, and if that is what the person was asking about, that is good information.  If I were using the app, I'd use control r, then press alt twice, at least that's what I think I would do, not having used the program. 

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:58 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi, Gene,

 

In the mail app, if you try typing something after hitting control R, you get a message that says something like "no document". You either have to shift tab to the subject line and tab back to the edit field for replying or hit the alt key and enter to hear the subject line.

 

I hope this clarifies things a little better for you.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

I know but what he said is that when he uses the command control r to reply, he doesn't hear the command spoken.  I'm saying that it doesn't matter if you hear the command control r spoken.  If he is discussing something else, what is it?  I don't use the mail app but until I hear further, I will assume that control r is the reply short cut command because that command is so standard in Windows e-mail programs.  Is there some other problem such as that when using the command, you don't hear something like the re subject line spoken to tell you that the command has been executed?

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:17 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi, Gene,

 

With all due respect, the person asking the question is asking about the mail app which works a bit differently than other programs. He wasn't asking about windows live mail or other programs.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Why is the question being asked in the first place?  Unless you have NVDA set to speak keys such as control, shift, the arrow keys, etc. you won't hear such commands spoken at any time.  You know from the response of programs what is occurring.  If the reply message opens, NVDA will say something that will tell you that a reply message has opened.  If you hear nothing or somethin incorrect, you have issued the wrong command or the command didn't work properly.  When I issue a command that should result in something being spoken, I don't continue until I hear the start of the speech confirming the command.  If I do, I might start writing a message before the program is ready to receive it or take an action in another program before the program is ready to take the action.  Being excessively dependent on hearing keys announced and basing what you do on hearing keys announced rather than the response of Windows or the program you are working in isn't a good way to work with Windows or programs.  I don't have such keys announced, which is the default, because it wouldn't benefit me in any way to hear them announced.  Even if I did hear them announced, I wouldn't take actions until the program indicated that it was ready to have actions taken.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:07 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Hi, Gary,

 

What I did to hear the keys spoken was to hit the alt key. It says "lower ribbon reply control R". Then I hit enter on a message to reply and heard the keys spoken.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

Thanks Rosemary.

I have a question.  When using the mail app and I reply to a message using ctrl r I don’t hear the keys spoken.  Is this normal behavior?  Thanks,

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] test

 

I got it.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Metzler
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] test

 

Hi All,

 

I am writing this message in the win10 mail app.

 

Regards, Gary kn4ox

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Re: dictation bridge error

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Garry,

 

What do you mean by latest windows? Are you on Windows 7 or on Windows 10?

 

Please give me the exact steps you followed and the error you are getting.

 

Pranav


Re: safe mode

Hareth
 

Hi Gene,
Its an other reg file it works with most sound cards, it worked with
all computers I have access to, with internal and external cards.
give it a try, it worked with win7 and win10 all editions.
I don't have win8 PC.
Best

On 10/24/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi


which operating systems will this work on? 7,8 and 10? Does it need a
certain sound card i think i seen reference to a real tec?


if you want and give a short description on what to do and what it does I
can put the directions up on my website along with the file for others if
they go that way. it will most probably go on the trouble shooting section
on the nvda audio tutorials page.


I thought the file disappeared along time ago.


gene nz


On 10/24/2017 7:57 AM, Hareth wrote:

Sarah,
It works indeed, I've posted a reg file that enables audio for win10 safe
mode.
it worked with all PCs that I have access to.
here is the link for it again:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

Best

On 10/23/17, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com><mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>
wrote:


No. And it will never work. No audo drivers can be loaded only display
drivers.

Take care



On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Holger Fiallo
<hfiallo@rcn.com><mailto:hfiallo@rcn.com> wrote:

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and
the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.


Holger Fiallo












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at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
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screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
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People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
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from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.


Re: safe mode

 

can I get the x file?

On 10/23/2017 3:12 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
and if anyone is interested I made a little exe file you just click on it it runs you get a uac prompt and you say yes to it and it installs or rather extracts to c drive and runs the reg file it works I tested it.

On 23/10/2017 20:02, Don H wrote:
maybe in the future NVDA could make this possible as it worked well in Window Eyes.  If GW could do it I am sure the fine developers of NVDA could do it as well.

On 10/23/2017 12:31 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
No. And it will never work. No audo drivers can be loaded only display drivers.

Take care

On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@rcn.com <mailto:hfiallo@rcn.com>> wrote:

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.


Holger Fiallo



.


Re: safe mode

Don H
 

I installed the reg file and NVDA works well in safe mode on my Win 10 fall creator laptop with a realtech on board sound

On 10/23/2017 5:48 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi
which operating systems will this work on? 7,8 and 10? Does it need a certain sound card i think i seen reference to a real tec?
if you want and give a short description on what to do and what it does I can put the directions up on my website along with the file for others if they go that way. it will most probably go on the trouble shooting section on the nvda audio tutorials page.
I thought the file disappeared along time ago.
gene nz
On 10/24/2017 7:57 AM, Hareth wrote:
Sarah,
It works indeed, I've posted a reg file that enables audio for win10 safe mode.
it worked with all PCs that I have access to.
here is the link for it again:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

Best

On 10/23/17, Sarah k Alawami<marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
No. And it will never work. No audo drivers can be loaded only display
drivers.

Take care

On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Holger Fiallo<hfiallo@rcn.com> wrote:

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and
the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.


Holger Fiallo
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Re: safe mode

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


which operating systems will this work on? 7,8 and 10? Does it need a certain sound card i think i seen reference to a real tec?


if you want and give a short description on what to do and what it does I can put the directions up on my website along with the file for others if they go that way. it will most probably go on the trouble shooting section on the nvda audio tutorials page.


I thought the file disappeared along time ago.


gene nz



On 10/24/2017 7:57 AM, Hareth wrote:
Sarah,
It works indeed, I've posted a reg file that enables audio for win10 safe mode.
it worked with all PCs that I have access to.
here is the link for it again:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

Best

On 10/23/17, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
No. And it will never work. No audo drivers can be loaded only display
drivers.

Take care

On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...> wrote:

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and
the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.


Holger Fiallo





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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: safe mode

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

    So I run it and it will install and if I need to go to safe mode to delete the blank avast I will be able to do so?
 

From: Adriani Botez
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 1:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] safe mode
 

Here is a file which changes your registry in the way that sound driver is kept on in safe mode. It works in windows 10 and I have tested it in Windows 7 x86 and it works as well. There is also a discussion in this forum about it, it was some days ago. Several people tested it and in works.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Sarah k Alawami
Gesendet: Montag, 23. Oktober 2017 19:31
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] safe mode

 

No. And it will never work. No audo drivers can be loaded only display drivers.

 

Take care



On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...> wrote:

 

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.



Holger Fiallo

 


Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, Rapid settings I might have it don't know why but it is not on the addons page.

On 23/10/2017 22:36, Arlene wrote:
Hi, what's the name of that addon?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michal Rada
Sent: October-23-17 5:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda
Hi, there is special addon in which you can set all settings in one place, as Control center in Jaws. You may install it and enjoy it, its cool and verry usefull method of setting all.
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23. 10. 2017 v 10:51, Alexander Masic <list@masic.se>:

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am able to made all settings at once. As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok, opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new way thinking.





Re: Some suggest for future nvda

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, Brian agreed well put.

On 23/10/2017 20:42, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yews but many years ago  I suggested an alternative way, that ran like tabs on many other programs do. This would have been my choice. It should not stop the keyboard shortcuts from bringing up the dialogue with that selected sheet to the focus, but might make it easier then to move to other sheets from that one for those who want to work that way.
I see very few down sides to it myself, as long as you protect the hottkeys already defined.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

I like the NVDA menu the way it is. Like the old saying goes, if it ain't
broke, don't fix it.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Alexander Masic
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 1:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Some suggest for future nvda

Hi.

Now When Jamie has change to another work, I hope there will be some space
for new thinking and redesign. Even if i really like nvda very mutch, and
you devs are doing a fantastic good jobb in general. However there is a few
things wich iritate my mutch. And most imprtant is how the menu-system are
organised. I would like to se menu scructure organized in fleaks wich i can
toggle betwean by arrow-keys. If i made an reinstallation of NVDA then I am
able to made all settings at once.
As it is today, you must do the settings in a one section, then press ok,
opend menu again and go to next and so on. This is a little old fasion.

So I hope that new leadership for nvda will also bring some new thinking. I
am also glad to se that older windows longer will not be supported. Because
this older windows is virusmashin, and by supporting them, NVDA is also
encurage spread of virus.

So i'll wish the new leader good luck, and looking forward to se little new
way thinking.








Re: safe mode

Kevin Cussick
 

and if anyone is interested I made a little exe file you just click on it it runs you get a uac prompt and you say yes to it and it installs or rather extracts to c drive and runs the reg file it works I tested it.

On 23/10/2017 20:02, Don H wrote:
maybe in the future NVDA could make this possible as it worked well in Window Eyes.  If GW could do it I am sure the fine developers of NVDA could do it as well.
On 10/23/2017 12:31 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
No. And it will never work. No audo drivers can be loaded only display drivers.

Take care

On Oct 23, 2017, at 3:39 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@rcn.com <mailto:hfiallo@rcn.com>> wrote:

Does NVDA, narrator or jaws works in safe mode? Can not delete avast and the only way to uninstall it is by going to safe mode.


Holger Fiallo