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Re: google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Simone Dal Maso
 

Ok, solved. It is not very confortable but you got it.

In presence of a combobox, go to forms mode. alt-down arrow. Automatically it swithces to browse mode. Go another time in form mode and then you can select the item.
Thank you for the solutions!

Il 18/09/2017 16:46, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Oh, unfortunately since its not English I cannot tell what I'm doing.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Simone Dal Maso" <simone.dalmaso@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 12:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Hello,
this is an old thread but I waited because I want to show an example when the combobox are not usable with google chrome.

In the following page, press the c letter until you arrive to "select language" combobox.
Try to use up and down arrow keys, and use alt-down arrow keys...
For me it is not possible!

https://www.microsoft.com/it-it/download/details.aspx?id=3





Re: google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

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So I assume then that its OK in other browsers is it?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Simone Dal Maso" <simone.dalmaso@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work


Il 18/09/2017 13:34, Gene ha scritto:
Are you pressing enter on the combobox first to make sure you are in forms mode?
Yes, also because if you don't press enter, how can you select an item from the combobox?
You press enter, then if you press alt-down arrow keys to open the combobox, you automatically go into browse mode!
And if you select an item from the combobox without pressing alt-down arrow, NVDA doesn't tell you the selected item because the combobox is dynamic and change language in a second.



----- Original Message -----
*From:* Simone Dal Maso <mailto:simone.dalmaso@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, September 18, 2017 6:04 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Hello,
this is an old thread but I waited because I want to show an example
when the combobox are not usable with google chrome.

In the following page, press the c letter until you arrive to "select
language" combobox.
Try to use up and down arrow keys, and use alt-down arrow keys...
For me it is not possible!

https://www.microsoft.com/it-it/download/details.aspx?id=3






Re: google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Oh, unfortunately since its not English I cannot tell what I'm doing.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Simone Dal Maso" <simone.dalmaso@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 12:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work


Hello,
this is an old thread but I waited because I want to show an example when the combobox are not usable with google chrome.

In the following page, press the c letter until you arrive to "select language" combobox.
Try to use up and down arrow keys, and use alt-down arrow keys...
For me it is not possible!

https://www.microsoft.com/it-it/download/details.aspx?id=3




Re: slow NVDA

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Well I was only saying that this has come up on the bugs list and until they can identify how it happens its not going to get sorted out. It seems strange that a few people have it but others do not. I'm stumped myself, as unless its some driver that is an issue, what is there left?
Do you have a Braille display?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfiallo@rcn.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] slow NVDA



I thought I mention Current W10. Before NVDA 2017 my PC was going fast and NVDA was doing well. Nothing change with my PC. It is not my PC, again it is not my PC.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] slow NVDA

Yes, it would be interesting to know which operating system and which actual
version of it is running and what is also running in the background as well.

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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] slow NVDA


No issues here. Everything starts up as expected, and all is as snappy as
it can be, even more so.

Take care
On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@rcn.com> wrote:



I am noticing that new NVDA is slow and takes a long time to move around when I start my PC. This was not an issue in the past. Now it is. Using current W10 and NVDA.
Holger Fiallo






Re: Another Libra Office thread

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Well, I think a lot of the problems we see are very niche from their point of view. IE you only encounter them with a screenreader really. If they could make some way to make say all work on a whole file that would be a big start.
I remember when it was Symphony, there was discussion between ibm and Dolphin about using a scroll bar to tell when you got to the end of a file when reading it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Libra Office thread


hello.
i reported many bugs and request in libreoffice and some of them are solved.
i have many books and some of them could not be open with libreoffice
and the result was crash!
fortunately, libreoffice developers solved them kindly for me.

just you can subscribe in

www.bugs.libreoffice.org

after subscribing, you can enter your user name and password and
report anything you need for improving libreoffice.

i installed 5.3 and its the greatest version of libreoffice realy!
hope that help, God bless you!

On 9/18/17, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

Months ago I described many issues when using LibreOffice with NVDA.

I learnd to live with these annoyances and now I am aware that they will
not be solved. I even think that using LibreOffice with NVDA will get
worse because

I feel that there is no comunication between the developers of both
software. It is enough to say that something so usefull as changing
between focus and brouse modes don't work in LibreOffice.
Unfortunately, I have nor the time, the patience or the knowledge to use
the standard ways of reporting bugs.
So, I decided to stick with the LibreOffice version that better suits my
needs and at the same time has less problems ((5.2).
As I can't afford Office, maybe I will ask for Ms for a donnation.

Em 17/09/2017 08:35, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On
writer it has more troubles with tables than just not announcing
their coordinates as has been ticketed, and not just the lack of Say
all below a visible page or if too many blank lines occur. it also
seems to have issues at boundaries of tables top and bottom needing
some jugling to get into and out of them as below.

IO - speech.speak (12:18:00.986):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'row 6', u'\xb75\tNo prior
experience of supporting people with sight loss is required ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:01.494):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:01.513):
Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(12:18:01.516):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147467259, 'Unspecified
error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:18:01.526):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'as full induction and
training will be provided.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:02.311):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:02.361):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:02.361):
Focus event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - speech.speak (12:18:02.380):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'out of table', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:03.719):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.765):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.780):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:03.877):
Caret didn't move before timeout. Elapsed: 100 ms
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:03.878):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x05BE20B0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in
_getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:04.535):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:04.611):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x03133150> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in
_getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:08.239):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 2448 (conhost.exe) (12:18:08.299):
Thread 1108, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp, installIA2Support, 86:
Error registering class object, code -2147221008

IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.302):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.342):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.345):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank']
INFO - core.main (12:18:08.454):
Exiting

For those wondering, Symphony was the original name when IBM had the
code.
Also on other parts of the program, it seems that the database part
is completely inaccessible giving the impression nothing is on screen
after the basic set up wizard has completed.

Brian

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Re: how to get the blank lines not to be spoken when using NVDA to read mail in thunderbird?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I'm not sure why this question with thunderbird even comes up.  When you press enter on a message, thunderbird automatically reads the message, there's no need to arrow down or use read to end at all, it automatically reads when the message opens, and it does it all by itself, the NVDA support for thunderbird is very good in that regard.


On 9/18/2017 10:10 AM, Gene wrote:
You should use the speak all command, which reads the entire document until you stop reading with control.  I've heard many people discuss reading e-mails in the past who down arrow through the message.  I've never understood why they do such an innefficient and unpleasant thing.  You can't cause NVDA not to announce blank lines when down arrowing line by line.  It won't announce them when using speak to end. 
 
If you are using the default desktop keyboard layout, speak to end is NVDA key down arrow.  Use the down arrow on the main keyboard.  You can use either insert.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Casey
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 8:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to get the blank lines not to be spoken when using NVDA to read mail in thunderbird?

Hi when you are reading threw your e-mail message and it has blank lines
in it.

How do you get Nvda to not read the blank lines so you don't hear blank
blank blank.

When harrowing threw your blank lines.



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Re: google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

When you do the command to open the combo box, you must then turn off browse mode and go back into forms mode, which will allow you to use the arrows without issue.

Thanks.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 6:04 AM Simone Dal Maso <simone.dalmaso@...> wrote:
Hello,
this is an old thread but I waited because I want to show an example
when the combobox are not usable with google chrome.

In the following page, press the c letter until you arrive to "select
language" combobox.
Try to use up and down arrow keys, and use alt-down arrow keys...
For me it is not possible!

https://www.microsoft.com/it-it/download/details.aspx?id=3





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Re: how to get the blank lines not to be spoken when using NVDA to read mail in thunderbird?

Gene
 

You should use the speak all command, which reads the entire document until you stop reading with control.  I've heard many people discuss reading e-mails in the past who down arrow through the message.  I've never understood why they do such an innefficient and unpleasant thing.  You can't cause NVDA not to announce blank lines when down arrowing line by line.  It won't announce them when using speak to end. 
 
If you are using the default desktop keyboard layout, speak to end is NVDA key down arrow.  Use the down arrow on the main keyboard.  You can use either insert.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Casey
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 8:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to get the blank lines not to be spoken when using NVDA to read mail in thunderbird?

Hi when you are reading threw your e-mail message and it has blank lines
in it.

How do you get Nvda to not read the blank lines so you don't hear blank
blank blank.

When harrowing threw your blank lines.



--

Casey




Re: google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Gene
 

Evidently, the problem is that the combo box can't be opened because you go into browse mode when you try to open it. 
 
What happens if you manually go into forms mmode, NVDA key space, then try to open the combo box?  The same thing may happen but both methods should be tested.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Il 18/09/2017 13:34, Gene ha scritto:
> Are you pressing enter on the combobox first to make sure you are in
> forms mode?

Yes, also because if you don't press enter, how can you select an item
from the combobox?
You press enter, then if you press alt-down arrow keys to open the
combobox, you automatically go into browse mode!
And if you select an item from the combobox without pressing alt-down
arrow, NVDA doesn't tell you the selected item because the combobox is
dynamic and change language in a second.



> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Simone Dal Maso <mailto:simone.dalmaso@...>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 18, 2017 6:04 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* [nvda] google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it
> doesn't work
>
> Hello,
> this is an old thread but I waited because I want to show an example
> when the combobox are not usable with google chrome.
>
> In the following page, press the c letter until you arrive to "select
> language" combobox.
> Try to use up and down arrow keys, and use alt-down arrow keys...
> For me it is not possible!
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/it-it/download/details.aspx?id=3
>
>
>
>
>




Re: Search command

Gene
 

Unless you are in Browse mode, you use the find command in the program you are working with.  If you are in browse mode in Word, you would use control NVDA f.  If you are not in browse mode, you would use whatever command Word uses.

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Search command

hello.
you can use nvda control f in any program that supports editing and
writing text.
hope that help, God bless you.

On 9/18/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
> The correct command is:
> NVDA+Ctrl+F
>
> NVDA key is usually the NumPadInsert.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Cody J. Davis
> Data: 18 de setembro de 2017 03:17
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: [nvda] Search command
>
> Hello,
>
> I am new to using NVDA. I am trying to utilize the control F search command
>
> in windows edge and Microsoft Word. However, I cannot seem to get the
> program to recognize the command. Any suggestions for what I might be doing
>
> wrong or any Settings on my need to change to get the command to work?
>
> Thanks,
> Cody J.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
>


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how to get the blank lines not to be spoken when using NVDA to read mail in thunderbird?

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi when you are reading threw your e-mail message and it has blank lines in it.

How do you get Nvda to not read the blank lines so you don't hear blank blank blank.

When harrowing threw your blank lines.



--

Casey


how to arrange the colums in thunderbird using NVDA

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi I am trying NVDA with Thunderbird the latest version.

So how do you make Thunderbird when using NVDA say unread and then where or who the message came from and then the subject and then the time that it was sent?

Also when Thunderbird tells you the time when you are looking at your list of messages.

How do you get rid of the 0 before it tells you what time the message came in at?

For example say A message came in at 2:15 p.m when looking threw your message it will say the time as 02:15 with out the : of course.

I just but that in to the time would say correctly.

So can you correct these things if so how?



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Re: Another Libra Office thread

 

hello.
i reported many bugs and request in libreoffice and some of them are solved.
i have many books and some of them could not be open with libreoffice
and the result was crash!
fortunately, libreoffice developers solved them kindly for me.

just you can subscribe in

www.bugs.libreoffice.org

after subscribing, you can enter your user name and password and
report anything you need for improving libreoffice.

i installed 5.3 and its the greatest version of libreoffice realy!
hope that help, God bless you!

On 9/18/17, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

Months ago I described many issues when using LibreOffice with NVDA.

I learnd to live with these annoyances and now I am aware that they will
not be solved. I even think that using LibreOffice with NVDA will get
worse because

I feel that there is no comunication between the developers of both
software. It is enough to say that something so usefull as changing
between focus and brouse modes don't work in LibreOffice.
Unfortunately, I have nor the time, the patience or the knowledge to use
the standard ways of reporting bugs.
So, I decided to stick with the LibreOffice version that better suits my
needs and at the same time has less problems ((5.2).
As I can't afford Office, maybe I will ask for Ms for a donnation.

Em 17/09/2017 08:35, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On
writer it has more troubles with tables than just not announcing
their  coordinates as has been ticketed, and not just the lack of Say
all below a visible page or if too many blank lines occur. it also
seems to have issues at boundaries of tables top and bottom needing
some jugling to get into and out of them as below.

IO - speech.speak (12:18:00.986):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'row 6', u'\xb75\tNo prior
experience of supporting people with sight loss is required ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:01.494):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:01.513):
Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(12:18:01.516):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147467259, 'Unspecified
error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:18:01.526):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'as full induction and
training will be provided.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:02.311):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:02.361):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:02.361):
Focus event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - speech.speak (12:18:02.380):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'out of table', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:03.719):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.765):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.780):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:03.877):
Caret didn't move before timeout. Elapsed: 100 ms
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:03.878):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x05BE20B0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
 File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
 File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
 File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
 File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in
_getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:04.535):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:04.611):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x03133150> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
 File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
 File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
 File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
 File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in
_getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:08.239):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 2448 (conhost.exe) (12:18:08.299):
Thread 1108, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp, installIA2Support, 86:
Error registering class object, code -2147221008

IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.302):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.342):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.345):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank']
INFO - core.main (12:18:08.454):
Exiting

For those wondering, Symphony was the original name when IBM had the
code.
Also on other parts of the  program, it seems that the database part
is completely inaccessible giving the impression nothing is on screen
after the basic set up wizard has completed.

Brian

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Re: google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Simone Dal Maso
 

Il 18/09/2017 13:34, Gene ha scritto:
Are you pressing enter on the combobox first to make sure you are in forms mode?
Yes, also because if you don't press enter, how can you select an item from the combobox?
You press enter, then if you press alt-down arrow keys to open the combobox, you automatically go into browse mode!
And if you select an item from the combobox without pressing alt-down arrow, NVDA doesn't tell you the selected item because the combobox is dynamic and change language in a second.



----- Original Message -----
*From:* Simone Dal Maso <mailto:simone.dalmaso@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, September 18, 2017 6:04 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work
Hello,
this is an old thread but I waited because I want to show an example
when the combobox are not usable with google chrome.
In the following page, press the c letter until you arrive to "select
language" combobox.
Try to use up and down arrow keys, and use alt-down arrow keys...
For me it is not possible!
https://www.microsoft.com/it-it/download/details.aspx?id=3


Re: Search command

 

hello.
you can use nvda control f in any program that supports editing and
writing text.
hope that help, God bless you.

On 9/18/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:
The correct command is:
NVDA+Ctrl+F

NVDA key is usually the NumPadInsert.

Regards,

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Cody J. Davis
Data: 18 de setembro de 2017 03:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Search command

Hello,

I am new to using NVDA. I am trying to utilize the control F search command

in windows edge and Microsoft Word. However, I cannot seem to get the
program to recognize the command. Any suggestions for what I might be doing

wrong or any Settings on my need to change to get the command to work?

Thanks,
Cody J.

Sent from my iPhone





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA doesn't identify the desk top

Rui Fontes
 

Here is working alright!

Windows 10 Creators update and last NVDA Next.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Nikos Demetriou via Groups.Io
Data: 18 de setembro de 2017 07:18
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] NVDA doesn't identify the desk top


Hi all.
I have got a small issue which doesn't impact in any way the use of my computer, but I always wanted to find out why.
I am using windows 10 with the latest updates and the windows 10 essentials addon.
When I go to the desk top, nvda says folder view list instead of identifying the desk top correctly.
On my windows 7 machine it works correctly.
I don't know if it has got something to do with my display settings.
As I said it is not something major but I find it a bit strange.
Thanks in advance.
Nikos


Re: Search command

Rui Fontes
 

The correct command is:
NVDA+Ctrl+F

NVDA key is usually the NumPadInsert.

Regards,

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Cody J. Davis
Data: 18 de setembro de 2017 03:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Search command

Hello,

I am new to using NVDA. I am trying to utilize the control F search command in windows edge and Microsoft Word. However, I cannot seem to get the program to recognize the command. Any suggestions for what I might be doing wrong or any Settings on my need to change to get the command to work?

Thanks,
Cody J.

Sent from my iPhone


Re: google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Gene
 

Are you pressing enter on the combobox first to make sure you are in forms mode? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 6:04 AM
Subject: [nvda] google chrome and combobox: here is an example when it doesn't work

Hello,
this is an old thread but I waited because I want to show an example
when the combobox are not usable with google chrome.

In the following page, press the c letter until you arrive to "select
language" combobox.
Try to use up and down arrow keys, and use alt-down arrow keys...
For me it is not possible!

https://www.microsoft.com/it-it/download/details.aspx?id=3





Re: Another Libra Office thread

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

Hi,

Months ago I described many issues when using LibreOffice with NVDA.

I learnd to live with these annoyances and now I am aware that they will not be solved. I even think that using LibreOffice with NVDA will get worse because

I feel that there is no comunication between the developers of both software. It is enough to say that something so usefull as changing between focus and brouse modes don't work in LibreOffice.
Unfortunately, I have nor the time, the patience or the knowledge to use the standard ways of reporting bugs.
So, I decided to stick with the LibreOffice version that better suits my needs and at the same time has less problems ((5.2).
As I can't afford Office, maybe I will ask for Ms for a donnation.

Em 17/09/2017 08:35, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On writer it has more troubles with tables than just not announcing their  coordinates as has been ticketed, and not just the lack of Say all below a visible page or if too many blank lines occur. it also seems to have issues at boundaries of tables top and bottom needing some jugling to get into and out of them as below.

IO - speech.speak (12:18:00.986):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'row 6', u'\xb75\tNo prior experience of supporting people with sight loss is required ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:01.494):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:01.513):
Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes (12:18:01.516):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:18:01.526):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'as full induction and training will be provided.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:02.311):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:02.361):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:02.361):
Focus event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - speech.speak (12:18:02.380):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'out of table', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:03.719):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.765):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.780):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:03.877):
Caret didn't move before timeout. Elapsed: 100 ms
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:03.878):
error executing event: caret on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible object at 0x05BE20B0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
 File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
 File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
 File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
 File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:04.535):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:04.611):
error executing event: caret on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible object at 0x03133150> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
 File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
 File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
 File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
 File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
 File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
 File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
 File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:08.239):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 2448 (conhost.exe) (12:18:08.299):
Thread 1108, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp, installIA2Support, 86:
Error registering class object, code -2147221008

IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.302):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.342):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.345):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank']
INFO - core.main (12:18:08.454):
Exiting

For those wondering, Symphony was the original name when IBM had the code.
Also on other parts of the  program, it seems that the database part is completely inaccessible giving the impression nothing is on screen after the basic set up wizard has completed.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.


.


Search command

Cody J. Davis
 

Hello,

I am new to using NVDA. I am trying to utilize the control F search command in windows edge and Microsoft Word. However, I cannot seem to get the program to recognize the command. Any suggestions for what I might be doing wrong or any Settings on my need to change to get the command to work?

Thanks,
Cody J.

Sent from my iPhone