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Re: NVDA at command prompt

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Don,

Press NVDA+2 to turn speak typed characters off.  If needed, you could set a configuration profile for when you are in a command prompt which has speak typed characters off so that it is still on in other programs.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Running NVDA 2017-3 on a Win 10 system.  When openning a command prompt admin and running sfc scannow NVDA spells out everything that comes up while the scan is running.  Any solution to this problem?

Thanks








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Re: problem with latest NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Don,

Do you have a particular website this happens on?  I tried on our User Guide https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html and our website https://www.nvaccess.org/ and moving to things like nonlinked text and headings (which aren't links) I can press ENTER.  Nothing happens, but as soon as I press another key, everything behaves as it should.

Do you have a log file from when this happened?  See https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for how to collect log files.

Regards

Quentin.


On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Running Win 10 64 bit and NVDA 2017-3.

If I am in a web page using Google Chrome and accidently hit enter on a line of text that is not a link NVDA stops talking and puts my system in a mode where a hard reboot is required.








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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Important announcement: NVDA 2017.3 is the last version to support Windows versions prior to 7 and Server 2008 R2 service pack 1

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
 

how do I no I have service package 1 in my windos7?

On 8/31/17, David Tanner <david.tanner100@gmail.com> wrote:
Most of the ones I have seen I have been home edition.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

As long as they are not windows 10S machines.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tanner"
<david.tanner100@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important announcement: NVDA 2017.3 is the last
version to support Windows versions prior to 7 and Server 2008 R2 service
pack 1


I have seen windows 10 computers in the last two weeks for Lestin $200.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Aug 31, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

I fully understand why old operating systems can't be supported for ever.
You do have to keep in mind that some people can't afford to purchase new
or newer computers which can run newer operating systems. In many if not
most situations if you are still running XP that computer is probably not
capable of running Win 10 so a free upgrade to Win 10 doesn't help. So
either you have to start saving what you can to upgrade to a newer
computer or just stay with the older versions of NVDA and hope your old
XP machine keeps on working..

On 8/31/2017 12:11 PM, David Tanner wrote:
You can get windows 10 for free from Microsoft if your visually
impaired. Why not do that instead of getting and 10-year-old operating
system and then expecting the developer to keep supporting it for
thousands of dollars more to their expense then you getting a free
windows 10 and staying up-to-date.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7
On Aug 31, 2017, at 3:37 AM, Stephen <whocrazy@internode.on.net>
wrote:

Oh well, I guess I'll have to upgrade to w7 fully now.
It was fun while it lasted.








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NVDA at command prompt

Don H
 

Running NVDA 2017-3 on a Win 10 system.  When openning a command prompt admin and running sfc scannow NVDA spells out everything that comes up while the scan is running.  Any solution to this problem?

Thanks


Re: lag when writing messages in thunderbird

Gene
 

I would imagine there might be many reasons for this problem and I don't know if the cursor might be one of them.  I doubt it.  I suspect the cursor blink rate is determined by Windows and you aren't having such problems in other places.  I don't know what possible solutions might exist.  A workaround would probably be to write the message in Notepad, copy it the the clipboard and paste it into the message body.  If you try this, check the message after you paste it to make sure the lines are the correct length.  If they are, that would solve the problem, assuming you don't want to do things like use things like italics, underline, etc.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 7:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] lag when writing messages in thunderbird

When composing new emails and writing messages in mozilla thunderbird I get significant lag when trying to edit and write messages. Is there a way to change the cursor in thunderbird to a more responsive one?


Josh


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Re: NVDA and Windows older versions

David Tanner
 

Well that's with Microsoft says. Until the next version comes out.!

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes. They will just keep adding new features.


On 8/31/2017 2:25 PM, Arlene wrote:
That's right. I'm learning what I can before I dive into Ten. I know sooner or later 7 is not going to be supported! Is windows ten the last version of windows that Microsoft will make?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: August-31-17 10:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Windows older versions

Amen Carlos! Now for coperate America should read your post cause they themselves use XP. I.E major banks.


On 8/31/2017 1:45 PM, Carlos wrote:
Hello All:

I can't believe the level of "whining" that is going on in regards
to NVDA dropping support for older versions of Windows!

Can't you people understand that it has become a great security
risk to keep on supporting versions of Windows which Microsoft
themselves will no longer support and recommend that users of older
versions to upgrade!

You are not only doing harm to your own PC's. But! Every time you
get online with unsecure Windows you are also spreading whatever
viruses are in your PC's throughout the internet!

If you are unable to upgrade for monetary reasons? There are many
ways to buy legal license keys for Windows 7/e/8.1/10.

If you need to upgrade to a new PC? There are several
organizations that sells refurbished PC's for the blind. As well as
for poor people in general!

Here in the U.S. GoodWill, The Salvation Army and Computers for
the Blind sell good computers with Windows 7 installed. I believe the
same applies for the U.K., Asia and other far away land.

If your idea for not upgrading is that you don't want to give your
money to Microsoft? Then turn off your PC and hide under your bed and
hope and pray that Microsoft does not go into the furniture business!

It's all a matter of being a well informed blind person!

You need to get out there and find out all you can so you will be
able to make an well informed decision about which PC is right for you!

Don't be spreading your viruses by using unsecure PC's just
because you are afraid of learning the new technology!!!

I will now get ready by putting on my fire resistant suit as I
begin to read all your flaming posts/replies!

Have lots of fun at my expense!!!







lag when writing messages in thunderbird

Josh Kennedy
 

When composing new emails and writing messages in mozilla thunderbird I get significant lag when trying to edit and write messages. Is there a way to change the cursor in thunderbird to a more responsive one?


Josh


-- 
sent with mozilla thunderbird


Re: Important announcement: NVDA 2017.3 is the last version to support Windows versions prior to 7 and Server 2008 R2 service pack 1

David Tanner
 

Most of the ones I have seen I have been home edition.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Aug 31, 2017, at 2:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

As long as they are not windows 10S machines.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Tanner" <david.tanner100@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Important announcement: NVDA 2017.3 is the last version to support Windows versions prior to 7 and Server 2008 R2 service pack 1


I have seen windows 10 computers in the last two weeks for Lestin $200.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7

On Aug 31, 2017, at 12:17 PM, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:

I fully understand why old operating systems can't be supported for ever. You do have to keep in mind that some people can't afford to purchase new or newer computers which can run newer operating systems. In many if not most situations if you are still running XP that computer is probably not capable of running Win 10 so a free upgrade to Win 10 doesn't help. So either you have to start saving what you can to upgrade to a newer computer or just stay with the older versions of NVDA and hope your old XP machine keeps on working..

On 8/31/2017 12:11 PM, David Tanner wrote:
You can get windows 10 for free from Microsoft if your visually impaired. Why not do that instead of getting and 10-year-old operating system and then expecting the developer to keep supporting it for thousands of dollars more to their expense then you getting a free windows 10 and staying up-to-date.

David Tanner

From my iPhone 7
On Aug 31, 2017, at 3:37 AM, Stephen <whocrazy@internode.on.net> wrote:

Oh well, I guess I'll have to upgrade to w7 fully now.
It was fun while it lasted.







Re: Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, it should have been directly to Joseph Lee!

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Rui Fontes
Data: 1 de setembro de 2017 00:54
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Hi Joseph!

Please, let me make a suggestion...

Reading the solutions presented by the person who sent to the list, we have
learned some things...
So, my suggestion is:
Commenting in the list, without naming authors, all working solutions,
mentioning why should be done this way and not others...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Data: 31 de agosto de 2017 22:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Garry,

I really thought you had put your finger on something there! However,
control + shift + Tab opens the folder list all right, as does control + y,
but, again, Outlook seized up and timed out before opening the folder.

These shortcuts are all delivering the folder list but the action of
switching from the Inbox to the folder or from one folder to another is
getting tangled up in something that involves NVDA, I am sure.

I have checked on GitHub but I cannot find any reports of this failure.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary
Bowers
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Try going to the sub-folders by using
Control+Shift+Tab

That should work when Control+Y doesn't work correctly.

Gary in Texas



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Please, please, can someone help me with this problem?

Every day now, NVDA is breaking Outlook 2016 as soon as I try to open a sub
folder.
I can send and receive messages in the Inbox without any problem. I can send
messages into any subfolder from the Inbox. If I try to go to the subfolder
from the Inbox using control -y, Outlook hangs and then the following
announcement appears:
Microsoft Outlook has stopped working
A problem caused the program to stop working correctly.
Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available.
Close program

After this Outlook closes and I drop back to the desktop.

I am using Office 2016 in Windows 10 - latest update and NVDA 2017.3 - also
latest update.

This problem has been happening at random over the past three months, but,
lately, has become chronic.

I am very fond of NVA and prefer to use it for everything. I was astonished
to find that JAWS 17 was able to operate Outlook without this problem and
that is still the case. I am convinced, therefore, that this is a problem
caused by NVDA conflicting with something in Outlook.

All suggestions very welcome! This is really frustrating and I cannot find
any solution.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie


Re: Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Answering in the correct message!

Searbhall, I have asked that because in portuguese language NVDA list, some user said he do not have that problem since last update....
And, some users have reproduced the bug with other screen readers...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Data: 31 de agosto de 2017 22:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Garry,

I really thought you had put your finger on something there! However, control + shift + Tab opens the folder list all right, as does control + y, but, again, Outlook seized up and timed out before opening the folder.

These shortcuts are all delivering the folder list but the action of switching from the Inbox to the folder or from one folder to another is getting tangled up in something that involves NVDA, I am sure.

I have checked on GitHub but I cannot find any reports of this failure.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Bowers
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Try going to the sub-folders by using
Control+Shift+Tab

That should work when Control+Y doesn't work correctly.

Gary in Texas



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Please, please, can someone help me with this problem?

Every day now, NVDA is breaking Outlook 2016 as soon as I try to open a sub folder.
I can send and receive messages in the Inbox without any problem. I can send messages into any subfolder from the Inbox. If I try to go to the subfolder from the Inbox using control -y, Outlook hangs and then the following announcement appears:
Microsoft Outlook has stopped working
A problem caused the program to stop working correctly.
Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available.
Close program

After this Outlook closes and I drop back to the desktop.

I am using Office 2016 in Windows 10 - latest update and NVDA 2017.3 - also latest update.

This problem has been happening at random over the past three months, but, lately, has become chronic.

I am very fond of NVA and prefer to use it for everything. I was astonished to find that JAWS 17 was able to operate Outlook without this problem and that is still the case. I am convinced, therefore, that this is a problem caused by NVDA conflicting with something in Outlook.

All suggestions very welcome! This is really frustrating and I cannot find any solution.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie


Re: Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hi Joseph!

Please, let me make a suggestion...

Reading the solutions presented by the person who sent to the list, we have learned some things...
So, my suggestion is:
Commenting in the list, without naming authors, all working solutions, mentioning why should be done this way and not others...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Data: 31 de agosto de 2017 22:37
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Garry,

I really thought you had put your finger on something there! However, control + shift + Tab opens the folder list all right, as does control + y, but, again, Outlook seized up and timed out before opening the folder.

These shortcuts are all delivering the folder list but the action of switching from the Inbox to the folder or from one folder to another is getting tangled up in something that involves NVDA, I am sure.

I have checked on GitHub but I cannot find any reports of this failure.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Bowers
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Try going to the sub-folders by using
Control+Shift+Tab

That should work when Control+Y doesn't work correctly.

Gary in Texas



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 2016 stopped by NVDA

Please, please, can someone help me with this problem?

Every day now, NVDA is breaking Outlook 2016 as soon as I try to open a sub folder.
I can send and receive messages in the Inbox without any problem. I can send messages into any subfolder from the Inbox. If I try to go to the subfolder from the Inbox using control -y, Outlook hangs and then the following announcement appears:
Microsoft Outlook has stopped working
A problem caused the program to stop working correctly.
Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available.
Close program

After this Outlook closes and I drop back to the desktop.

I am using Office 2016 in Windows 10 - latest update and NVDA 2017.3 - also latest update.

This problem has been happening at random over the past three months, but, lately, has become chronic.

I am very fond of NVA and prefer to use it for everything. I was astonished to find that JAWS 17 was able to operate Outlook without this problem and that is still the case. I am convinced, therefore, that this is a problem caused by NVDA conflicting with something in Outlook.

All suggestions very welcome! This is really frustrating and I cannot find any solution.


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie


Re: Dyslexia Accommodations

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


NVDA is more for blind or visually impaired people but at the same time my wife who teaches people with learning difficulties such as dyslexia she uses nvda as a tool.


NVDa can speak what is under the mouse either by character, word, line or paragraph if i remember. What it says under the mouse can be changed under the mouse settings in nvda. You will need to look for the section that says unit which is a combo box and change it.


The mouse tracking must be on as well. Use the nvda key + letter m to do this you should hear it spoken if it is on or not.




NVDa will also speak the clip board but there is a cut off for the amount it reads out. Not tried it with a mouse to high light the area then maybe you might have to use the ctrl key + letter C to copy the text to the clipboard then use the nvda key + letter C to read it out.


She does ajust the back ground if she can in Windows to make it easier or enlarge the text et as well.


I usually do the highlighting with the shift key plus arrow keys to do this.

Then use the ctrl key + letter C to copy to the clipboard then the nvda key + C to read it out if i need to.


But most of the time it is just copy and paste.



Gene nz

On 01/09/2017 05:30, Michael Broome wrote:
I'm sorry for what feels like a stupid question. I've read the manual and tinkered with the settings but can't seem to find out if I can use this software for just reading highlighted text...
Is that a thing?
I run a test center with a recent influx of ADA students. They aren't visually disabled, but learning disabled, so need tests read aloud to them.
But they don't need much else read aloud. They can navigate just fine.
Thanks for your time,  guys!

--
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Re: Important announcement: NVDA 2017.3 is the last version to support Windows versions prior to 7 and Server 2008 R2 service pack 1

 

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:17 am, Don H wrote:
You do have to keep in mind that some people can't afford to purchase new or newer computers which can run newer operating systems.
That is definitely sad, but it is in no way a justification for any software developer to continue to retain backward compatibility with an operating system that has not been officially supported for years.

As has been said, repeatedly, if one wishes to or must remain on Windows XP or Vista or 7 (without SP1) then you can keep using the versions of software, including NVDA, that run under them.

It is not up to those working in an industry where the targets are constantly moving to have an anchor to a completely obsolete operating system that few (yes, few compared to what has come after) still use.  It makes no business sense and impedes improving the products such that they are the best that they can be under currently supported operating systems.
 
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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

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Re: NVDA API docs: updated to 2017.3 baseline/RC

kavein thran
 

hi,
It would be nice Can joseph or someone else who are available make the
nvda dev docs 2017.3 with its helper documentation available in zipp?

Advanced thanks for your effort

On 8/17/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I will do so once 2017.3 final hits the air. Note that NV Access has
expressed interest in hosting API docs somewhere once stable builds come
out.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of derek
riemer
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 8:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA API docs: updated to 2017.3 baseline/RC



Joseph: Mind linking to your dev docs somewhere in the wiki? It might help
people who don't know about it, or are new here in the future.



On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:00 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,
The json module allows data exchange between modules, computers and what
not. I was looking forward for this module being integrated into NVDA, as
this might be used in a research project I'm conducting.
As for things I wrote, I did about a fourth of what I wrote below, namely
the new suggestions behavior, controller for event, making user guide
friendlier and auto-suggest detection in Windows 10. There is a feature
under active alpha testing that partially derives its power from one of my
add-ons, but that's getting ahead of the story.
As for NVDA being my own brainchild, no, that's not true. My role in the
development side of NVDA is that of a contributor, mostly specializing in
documentation, translation coordination, representing add-on writers,
testing braille support, and working on making sure Windows 10 users are
treated with respect through enhancements and bug fixes. In the past, I held
other roles, but I passed my baton to other people, knowing that they can do
better than I did, and I'll be letting go of one more role by this time next
year (but that's reserved for another mailing list).
Cheers,
Joseph


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of
nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA API docs: updated to 2017.3 baseline/RC

hi joseph.
thanks for your great screen reader.
please explane me about json, i did not understand completely whats it,
whats advantages to be in nvda.
did you include it in appModule of nvda in library.zip?
God bless you and thanks so much again.

On 8/17/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hi,
Not just yet. I'll add a zip version once 2017.3 final build goes live.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of
kavein thran
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 12:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA API docs: updated to 2017.3 baseline/RC

hello joseph,

thanks for the great work. Can I we have this in zipp?

On 8/17/17, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> > wrote:
Hi all,



NVDA API docs has been updated to 2017.3 baseline/RC1. This houses
documentation for NVDA source code docstrings as one would generate
from the NVDA screen reader source code. The API docs are hosted on
my website and can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/files/nvdadocs/dev/



Note that this is a supplement to the development guides published by
NV Access and the add-ons community.



Key API changes in 2017.3 include:



* Content Recognition module (contentRecog) has been added to allow
OCR engines and their interfaces to provide text recognition services.
At the moment only Windows 10 OCR is available.
* UIA handler: three new UIA events are now recognized: controller
for, system alert, and live region changed. Controller for is used to
let a control depend on another for features such as auto-suggest
accessibility, system alerts are used for various alerts, and live
region changes are caught and announced by NVDA.
* Events: three new events are added: event_liveRegionChange,
event_suggestionsOpened, and event_suggestionsClosed. The new live
region change event announces changes to live regions and objects can
tell NVDA to ignore this event if needed. Suggestions opened and
closed events are used to announce appearance of auto-suggest lists
in various places such as various apps in Windows 10 and in Start
menu, and are applicable in places such as auto-completion boxes in
various IDE's and others.
* New behavior: NVDAObjects.behaviors.EditableTextWithSuggestions has
been added for scenarios where documents and other edit fields
provide search suggestions.
* Unit tests and bug fixes: some bug fixes were possible thanks to
unit tests included with NVDA. It is strongly recommended that you
provide unit tests when you submit code contributions.
* New Python library module: json (Javascript Object Notation) module
is now part of NVDA, so add-ons don't need to include this if
compatibility with 2017.3 or later is desired. If you want to support
older releases, you should continue to include json package.
* Contracted and uncontracted braille input: as a result, it is no
longer possible for braille display drivers to specify commands for
backspace and enter keys, as dot 7 (backspace) and dot 8 (enter and
translate text) will be used to perform these commands.
* C++ side of things: NVDA now uses C++/CX (C++ with Component
eXtensions) when calling Windows Runtime/Universal Windows Platform API.
This is chiefly used to support Windows OneCore voices and to
interact with universal OCR API. As a result, compiling with Visual
Studio 2015 Express is no longer possible - at least VS2015 Community
with Universal Windows Platform SDK support is required.
* Less visible changes: User guide was made more user (and beginner)
friendly, copyright headers were added for some files.



For users: I added the above API changelog to show two things: the
work required to move NVDA to the next level, and to show the work
involved when it comes to contributing to NVDA. This came about after
a discussion on the users list about some folks wanting to contribute
code to NVDA with little to no Python knowledge.



For add-on writers: keeping up with NVDA API changes is essential.
This will become more important as we kick off Python 3 transition.



For developers: I was inspired by a discussion on the users list
regarding code contributions and python's own What's New docs, thus I
decided to write the changelog above. For a brief changelog, see
"changes for developers"
section in the what's new document.



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OT: KVM Keyboard Switch

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi All,

 

I thought I had seen a post from someone who is using a single wireless/Bluetooth keyboard to control multiple computers.  Could you respond and advise which keyboard it is that you’re using?


Thanks,

Jonathan


Re: Dyslexia Accommodations

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Sure, NVDA can be used for that, but it's not really setup for it.  You might be better off using my clipspeak program located at:

http://www.softcon.com/files/clipspeak10.exe

It will automatically read anything that is on the clipboard.  You can copy it to the sendto directory in the user directories (not sure of the exact path, but it should be findable readily enough), so that after text is highlighted and copied to the clipboard, a right click then sendto can be selected, and choose clipspeak for the target.  It will load, speak the text, then exit.  It's a few extra steps, but I suppose it could be copied somewhere, a shortcut placed on the desktop, then a hotkey assigned, so that folks could just hit the key combination, and it would load, speak the text, then quit all by itself with nothing required from the students, except to highlight and copy to the clipboard the portion of text they're having trouble reading.  I wrote it for folks that wanted their clipboard text to be read (my wife uses it a lot for that purpose, so she doesn't have to read things to me from her screen when she wants me to know something (like a facebook post or something), it's easier for her to just highlight, copy to clipboard and envoke clipspeak than it is for her to read the whole text outloud, since she has a speech difficulty, and it's not always easy to understand when she's trying to read unfamiliar text.


On 8/31/2017 1:30 PM, Michael Broome wrote:
I'm sorry for what feels like a stupid question. I've read the manual and tinkered with the settings but can't seem to find out if I can use this software for just reading highlighted text...
Is that a thing?
I run a test center with a recent influx of ADA students. They aren't visually disabled, but learning disabled, so need tests read aloud to them.
But they don't need much else read aloud. They can navigate just fine.
Thanks for your time,  guys!


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Dyslexia Accommodations

Michael Broome
 

I'm sorry for what feels like a stupid question. I've read the manual and tinkered with the settings but can't seem to find out if I can use this software for just reading highlighted text...
Is that a thing?
I run a test center with a recent influx of ADA students. They aren't visually disabled, but learning disabled, so need tests read aloud to them.
But they don't need much else read aloud. They can navigate just fine.
Thanks for your time,  guys!


Re: Important announcement: NVDA 2017.3 is the last version to support Windows versions prior to 7 and Server 2008 R2 service pack 1

 

NVDA should have cancelled its support for XP long ago, and its technology has been constantly updating, and assistive technology is no exception. Individuals support official decisions and hope NVDA gets better and better.


problem with latest NVDA

Don H
 

Running Win 10 64 bit and NVDA 2017-3.

If I am in a web page using Google Chrome and accidently hit enter on a line of text that is not a link NVDA stops talking and puts my system in a mode where a hard reboot is required.


Re: NVDA SOUNDS

Sarah k Alawami
 

Like I said I use andre's sound sceem which I posted earlier in this thread. 

Here are both links in my folder.

On Aug 31, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

Sounds, um great.
it can be very easy to import sounds but remember that updates erase then at the moment.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


At some point there will be new sounds and people will be able to choose which sounds they want, the new sounds or the sounds being used    now.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 8:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


any news new sounds coming 2NVDA

On 8/30/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Don't get them from that site.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mr.
Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 1:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

how much are the voices are there free or blindhelp.net or I get a discount

On 8/30/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists@...> wrote:
I don't know anything about this site. the problem often is that the
uninitiated are probably not aware what is and what is not an
infringement of copyright etc.
Some, in poorer countries may indeed not particularly care, and I'd
not want

to slam them in gaol for that particularly. I'll just say be careful
and watch out for malware and do not ask questions here about anything
that is definitely illegal, as NVDA moderators will probably ban you
if you do it a

lot as they HAVE to keep the list clean and their reputation good or
nobody

will donate money for developments for NVDA.
Just saying.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


You shouldn't be downloading something that's illegal.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mr.
Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 8:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

don't I get vocalizer for free thru www.blindhelp.net

On 8/29/17, Scott VanDeWalle <scottvandewalle2@...> wrote:
Going to go there and try to find this ad-on since I’d be interested
in possible new nvda sounds, just for a change of pace..  smile.

Scott

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 4:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS

I use Quincy, but then I would since I made it in the first place.
On sounds, did I nott see an add on that allowed other sounds on the
ad on

site. I believe eventually the idea is to make this type of  option
part of

nvda. At the moment its awkward as on a standard install, the update
overwrites th sound files in nvda. but there is noting stopping you
form fiddling with them on the current install. they are in a folder
called waves

in the main nvda folder in program fiiles (x86)  Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS


I don't mind the sounds myself. The Max voice in espeak is pretty
easy to understand for me.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Vanessa

Ochoa via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2017 4:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA SOUNDS



hi how many of you do not like the sounds in nvda i personally do not
like the sounds and I would like to create sound packages to
distribute them to users who like me do not like the sounds in nvda i
like nvda but i do not like the sounds what do you all think about
that i really want to help people who like me are anoyd of the sounds
that come with nvda











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