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Re: Customizing Announcement of Command Keys

Rui Fontes
 

Hello Quentin!

Sorry! The previous message have gone out without authorization! Smile!

Please, see:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/6553

namely:

ruifontes commented on 15 Nov 2016
A compromise solution:
1 - Considere Enter, and accents like accut accent, grave accent, tilde and
carete, as a character;
2 - Separate arrows from command keys.
That way will have three group of keys;
1 - Typeable characters including Enter and accents;
2 - Arrow keys;
3 - All other keys;


bhavyashah commented on 2 Mar
Hi,
Are there any users who would like to retain announcement of arrow
keys via the Speak command keys option? If absolutely none, removing
arrow keys as a whole from being reported under all settings should be
considered, because it is unlikely and unproductive for anyone to
enable arrow keys while working, or even creating tutorial content for
beginners, or in any scenario I can currently visualize.
Also, adding only Enter to the characters spoken even with the afore
mentioned setting off would be of significant help to beginners, as
many NVDA users and trainers have reported in the past, and shouldn't
have any counter-productive consequences in the UX of other users.
However, Enter in comjunction with other keys, in the form of key
commands, shouldn't be verbalized.
The above two cases have been pretty much unanimously agreed as
expressed in several comments and through various tickets in the past,
and thus I have specifically requested their implementation.
With the arrow keys eliminated and the Enter key spoken, we may have a
clearer picture of the user demand going forward.
Thanks.


Do we need some more issues open to this question?
If you see, my proposal and bhavyashah proposal are identical, with the inclusion of accents in the typeable characters, as they really are.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Quentin Christensen
Data: 19 de setembro de 2017 09:07
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Customizing Announcement of Command Keys


Clipspeak will read the following commands:

CTRL+A: Select all
CTRL+Z: Undo
CTRL+Y: Redo
CTRL+X: Cut
CTRL+C: Copy
CTRL+V: Paste

Is that what you are after?
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html


The idea of a more customisable "speak command keys" comes up from time to
time, but the problem is everyone wants different things. My idea would
probably be to have a simple set of options, say checkboxes for groups of
keys like:
- function keys
- arrow keys
- modifier keys


etc.


If anyone has a really clear and widely useful variant on that they'd really
like to see, do feel free to write it up on GitHub:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues


Regards


Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:42 AM, David Kingsbury
<davidkingsbury77@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I am aware that if you go into the NVDA menu keyboard settings, it is
possible to turn on and off the announcement of command keys. I am wondering
if there is any way to customize this. I want to hear NVDA say control C
when I copy text, control V when I paste, but it is very annoying to hear
down arrow every time I hit the down arrow. Can I set this so I can hear
some of these keystrokes, but not others?

Thanks for any help on this.
David Kingsbury









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Re: Customizing Announcement of Command Keys

Rui Fontes
 

Hello Quentin!

Please, see:

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Quentin Christensen
Data: 19 de setembro de 2017 09:07
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Customizing Announcement of Command Keys


Clipspeak will read the following commands:

CTRL+A: Select all
CTRL+Z: Undo
CTRL+Y: Redo
CTRL+X: Cut
CTRL+C: Copy
CTRL+V: Paste

Is that what you are after? https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html


The idea of a more customisable "speak command keys" comes up from time to time, but the problem is everyone wants different things. My idea would probably be to have a simple set of options, say checkboxes for groups of keys like:
- function keys
- arrow keys
- modifier keys


etc.


If anyone has a really clear and widely useful variant on that they'd really like to see, do feel free to write it up on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues


Regards


Quentin.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 4:42 AM, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I am aware that if you go into the NVDA menu keyboard settings, it is possible to turn on and off the announcement of command keys. I am wondering if there is any way to customize this. I want to hear NVDA say control C when I copy text, control V when I paste, but it is very annoying to hear down arrow every time I hit the down arrow. Can I set this so I can hear some of these keystrokes, but not others?

Thanks for any help on this.
David Kingsbury









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Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

Sarah k Alawami
 

I personally sinsider that to be a good move, in fact I might do the same on my groups.io run list(s). Thanks for the idea..

Take care and have a blessed Tuesday.

On Sep 19, 2017, at 12:24 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
As the owner of the NVDA add-ons list, I'm considering enacting address ban if I hear reports of the moderated person jumping over to the add-ons list to vent frustrations.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

As I stated in an email a few weeks ago when this person started posting on the list, he will continue posting nonsensical messages, off topic messages, and violate list rules until he is removed. He apparently doesn't pay much attentionn to messages in reply to his questions and will continue repeating things over and over until stopped. Moderation is the least of possible solutions to this situation.

Good luck Nimer and Gene!

Laz

On 9/19/17, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@...> wrote:
when is the next update for NVDA

On 9/19/17, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@...> wrote:
I will just reiterate that Gene has my full and unqualified support
in this matter and I will be keeping an eye for any future messages
from this individual.

Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:17 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

From the moderator:

I don't know why he is doing it and we have no basis to assume anything.
I doubt it is intentional rudeness.  I would say that people should
simply not comment on any post by Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo unless he asks a new and useful question.  Repetitive
questions, the same question four times in a month or even twice in
a month or six months, should simply be ignored.

It is not useful to have a debate on list about Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum Oguledo or his posts.  If such unproductive debates
continue, I shall lock all threads where such debates begin.

If Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo is too outrageous, I shall
moderate him.  Moderation means that I shall see every post from him
and have to approve each post before it reaches the list.  If I do
that, I shall simply not approve repetitive questions nor questions
that in any way, promote sites where illegal activity occurs.  .

I'm explaining all this because Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo sent a post yesterday in which he seemed to indicate that he
didn't know what being moderated means and because there may be
other list members who don't know.

I am not the list owner and if he wishes to deal with this matter
differently, that is what he will do as list owner.  I've stated
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Also, on further consideration, I've changed my mind about how long
moderation will last.  It will last at least two months and whether
it is lifted will depend on the kinds of posts Mr. Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum Oguledo  sends for approval.


Gene


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Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

 

Hi,
As the owner of the NVDA add-ons list, I'm considering enacting address ban if I hear reports of the moderated person jumping over to the add-ons list to vent frustrations.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laz
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

As I stated in an email a few weeks ago when this person started posting on the list, he will continue posting nonsensical messages, off topic messages, and violate list rules until he is removed. He apparently doesn't pay much attentionn to messages in reply to his questions and will continue repeating things over and over until stopped. Moderation is the least of possible solutions to this situation.

Good luck Nimer and Gene!

Laz

On 9/19/17, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <ochikodinaka@gmail.com> wrote:
when is the next update for NVDA

On 9/19/17, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> wrote:
I will just reiterate that Gene has my full and unqualified support
in this matter and I will be keeping an eye for any future messages
from this individual.

Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:17 PM Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

From the moderator:

I don't know why he is doing it and we have no basis to assume anything.
I doubt it is intentional rudeness. I would say that people should
simply not comment on any post by Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo unless he asks a new and useful question. Repetitive
questions, the same question four times in a month or even twice in
a month or six months, should simply be ignored.

It is not useful to have a debate on list about Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum Oguledo or his posts. If such unproductive debates
continue, I shall lock all threads where such debates begin.

If Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo is too outrageous, I shall
moderate him. Moderation means that I shall see every post from him
and have to approve each post before it reaches the list. If I do
that, I shall simply not approve repetitive questions nor questions
that in any way, promote sites where illegal activity occurs. .

I'm explaining all this because Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo sent a post yesterday in which he seemed to indicate that he
didn't know what being moderated means and because there may be
other list members who don't know.

I am not the list owner and if he wishes to deal with this matter
differently, that is what he will do as list owner. I've stated
what I will do unless the owner wishes something different to be done.

Also, on further consideration, I've changed my mind about how long
moderation will last. It will last at least two months and whether
it is lifted will depend on the kinds of posts Mr. Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum Oguledo sends for approval.


Gene

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Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

Laz
 

As I stated in an email a few weeks ago when this person started
posting on the list, he will continue posting nonsensical messages,
off topic messages, and violate list rules until he is removed. He
apparently doesn't pay much attentionn to messages in reply to his
questions and will continue repeating things over and over until
stopped. Moderation is the least of possible solutions to this
situation.

Good luck Nimer and Gene!

Laz

On 9/19/17, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
<ochikodinaka@gmail.com> wrote:
when is the next update for NVDA

On 9/19/17, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> wrote:
I will just reiterate that Gene has my full and unqualified support in
this
matter and I will be keeping an eye for any future messages from this
individual.

Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:17 PM Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

From the moderator:

I don't know why he is doing it and we have no basis to assume anything.
I doubt it is intentional rudeness. I would say that people should
simply
not comment on any post by Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo unless
he
asks a new and useful question. Repetitive questions, the same question
four times in a month or even twice in a month or six months, should
simply
be ignored.

It is not useful to have a debate on list about Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum
Oguledo or his posts. If such unproductive debates continue, I shall
lock
all threads where such debates begin.

If Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo is too outrageous, I shall
moderate him. Moderation means that I shall see every post from him and
have to approve each post before it reaches the list. If I do that, I
shall simply not approve repetitive questions nor questions that in any
way, promote sites where illegal activity occurs. .

I'm explaining all this because Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
sent
a post yesterday in which he seemed to indicate that he didn't know what
being moderated means and because there may be other list members who
don't
know.

I am not the list owner and if he wishes to deal with this matter
differently, that is what he will do as list owner. I've stated what I
will do unless the owner wishes something different to be done.

Also, on further consideration, I've changed my mind about how long
moderation will last. It will last at least two months and whether it
is
lifted will depend on the kinds of posts Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo sends for approval.


Gene

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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

Tony Ballou
 

Hey Gene,


Thanks mate, I've got something to send you off list.


Tony




On 9/18/2017 7:22 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Tony


The below is off the nvda audio tutorials page

it fixed my problem

Troubleshooting - NVDA says “unknown” or “pane” in all of your browsers, Mozilla Thunderbird email client and other places
If for some reason you have problems with NVDA saying “unknown” or “pane” check for the following symptoms:

In all of your browsers, or the Mozilla Thunderbird email client, no matter what you do, you still hear “unknown” or “pane”.

In the browser, email client and other menus you notice you cannot get into your menus, or you are unable to use the quick navigation keys

When you have been told the page is loaded and notice strange behaviour

Mozilla Thunderbird saying unknown while you try to navigate it

Your applications key does not work with it being spoken out and other strange behaviour in Windows

The running applications icons are not being spoken out
It might be a good idea to do the following:
Please note: If you are hearing “unknown” or “pane” (as discussed above) NVDA might seem like it is still working properly but it may not be completely in Windows and other programmes.
You could try the following solution which will allow you to re-register your dll files in case they are causing the problem.
Press the Windows key then type the following into the search box. Type in “command prompt”. Once you have located command prompt, in the search results, press the Applications key to bring up the context menu. Arrow down to select “run as administrator” and press the Enter key. This will take you to a command prompt window. This will not be spoken out. You may need sighted assistance for this.
Type in the following command
for %x in (c:\windows\system32\*.dll) do regsvr32 /s %x
This should re-register all components in the system32 folder.
When it is finished, you can close the command prompt window with the Alt + F4 key. You should notice now where NVDA was saying “unknown” as in some examples given, NVDA should now read the icons in the running applications area of Windows, speak the content of the webpage and menus, and also in Mozilla Thunderbird and other places in Windows including the Windows applications context menu.


if the above does not fix it then we can try the other suggested stuff from jamie.

 

On 9/19/2017 10:59 AM, Tony Ballou wrote:

Hey Gene,


Yeah, I think it is that same bug in a different but more powerful incarnation.  It is not just affecting web  browsers, and email clients,programs like word, excel, 7.zip, Nero, and anything with a context menu across the board are all having some sort of issue or just not wanting to work at all. Sounds like a job for the command to re-register the system 32 folder.   


Tony
On 9/16/2017 5:47 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi Tony


Is it doing the following in short? it will not read any thing in your browsers except edge in windows  10? can you get to any of the menus in fire fox etc? Down where the running applications area is does nvda say unknown as you arrow through that section? If you use the context menu will it speak any of the items in it? I am wondering if is that bug?


have a look on my nvda audio tutorials page and go to the section on trouble shooting and look for the heading that says unknown or pane  for windows 10.


I can not remember either but there is a patch etc but can not remember if it is on that page as well. it might only be for windows 7 or 8 machines?


have a look at this ticket and read the comments down near the bottom. The link to this page is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

The steps that fixed a friends computer is on my nvda audio tutorials page. but check out the comments first for the ticket.


Gene nz





On 16/09/2017 15:20, Tony Ballou wrote:

Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar.  In firefox, and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars, tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows.  Really odd, it happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10 version 1607.  Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got them scratching their heads as well


Tony


On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab key.

Thank you,




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Re: code factory vocalizer voices

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
 

did u down lode the voice? email I will sho u how!
ochikodinaka@gmail.com or dial 240-253-3001 I will tell you what u
need to do

On 9/19/17, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:
Anyone have any idea how to get these to work?

I've installed the nvda plugin, but when I go to synthesizer, and select
code factory, it brings up a dialog that says:

You need to install vocalizer voices to use code factory tts.

Pressing ok will start voice installation software.


That's all well and good, but when I press enter, I get a dialog that says:

Synthesizer error could not load the vocalizer synthesizer


Ok, so I press enter on ok again, and then

all that does is bring me back to the dialog that says:

We hope you are enjoying the evaluation of vocalizer for windows
remember to purchase a license before the trial expires to continue
using great voices.

Then there's a continue button.

Ok, so let's press that.


Great, now we're back in the list of voices where I select samantha, and
....

poof, absolutely nothing happens.  If I do the selecting again, it
starts all over, and I'm stuck in an endless loop.

I'm not feeling the love here.  Anybody know how to break out of this
vicious nonproductive loop (other than uninstall the plugin that is).

Of course, selecting espeak ng solves the problem too, but that kind of
defeats the purpose of the plugin in the first place.








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code factory vocalizer voices

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Anyone have any idea how to get these to work?

I've installed the nvda plugin, but when I go to synthesizer, and select code factory, it brings up a dialog that says:

You need to install vocalizer voices to use code factory tts.

Pressing ok will start voice installation software.


That's all well and good, but when I press enter, I get a dialog that says:

Synthesizer error could not load the vocalizer synthesizer


Ok, so I press enter on ok again, and then

all that does is bring me back to the dialog that says:

We hope you are enjoying the evaluation of vocalizer for windows remember to purchase a license before the trial expires to continue using great voices.

Then there's a continue button.

Ok, so let's press that.


Great, now we're back in the list of voices where I select samantha, and ....

poof, absolutely nothing happens.  If I do the selecting again, it starts all over, and I'm stuck in an endless loop.

I'm not feeling the love here.  Anybody know how to break out of this vicious nonproductive loop (other than uninstall the plugin that is).

Of course, selecting espeak ng solves the problem too, but that kind of defeats the purpose of the plugin in the first place.


Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
 

when is the next update for NVDA

On 9/19/17, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> wrote:
I will just reiterate that Gene has my full and unqualified support in this
matter and I will be keeping an eye for any future messages from this
individual.

Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:17 PM Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

From the moderator:

I don't know why he is doing it and we have no basis to assume anything.
I doubt it is intentional rudeness. I would say that people should
simply
not comment on any post by Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo unless
he
asks a new and useful question. Repetitive questions, the same question
four times in a month or even twice in a month or six months, should
simply
be ignored.

It is not useful to have a debate on list about Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo or his posts. If such unproductive debates continue, I shall
lock
all threads where such debates begin.

If Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo is too outrageous, I shall
moderate him. Moderation means that I shall see every post from him and
have to approve each post before it reaches the list. If I do that, I
shall simply not approve repetitive questions nor questions that in any
way, promote sites where illegal activity occurs. .

I'm explaining all this because Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
sent
a post yesterday in which he seemed to indicate that he didn't know what
being moderated means and because there may be other list members who
don't
know.

I am not the list owner and if he wishes to deal with this matter
differently, that is what he will do as list owner. I've stated what I
will do unless the owner wishes something different to be done.

Also, on further consideration, I've changed my mind about how long
moderation will last. It will last at least two months and whether it is
lifted will depend on the kinds of posts Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo sends for approval.


Gene

--
Cordially,

Nimer Jaber

My mission is to bring love and peace to everyone around me with all tools
available to me.
My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
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Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

Nimer Jaber
 

I will just reiterate that Gene has my full and unqualified support in this matter and I will be keeping an eye for any future messages from this individual.

Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:17 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
From the moderator:
 
I don't know why he is doing it and we have no basis to assume anything.  I doubt it is intentional rudeness.  I would say that people should simply not comment on any post by Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo unless he asks a new and useful question.  Repetitive questions, the same question four times in a month or even twice in a month or six months, should simply be ignored. 
 
It is not useful to have a debate on list about Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo or his posts.  If such unproductive debates continue, I shall lock all threads where such debates begin.   
 
If Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo is too outrageous, I shall moderate him.  Moderation means that I shall see every post from him and have to approve each post before it reaches the list.  If I do that, I shall simply not approve repetitive questions nor questions that in any way, promote sites where illegal activity occurs.  . 
 
I'm explaining all this because Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo sent a post yesterday in which he seemed to indicate that he didn't know what being moderated means and because there may be other list members who don't know. 
 
I am not the list owner and if he wishes to deal with this matter differently, that is what he will do as list owner.  I've stated what I will do unless the owner wishes something different to be done.
 
Also, on further consideration, I've changed my mind about how long moderation will last.  It will last at least two months and whether it is lifted will depend on the kinds of posts Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo  sends for approval.
 
 
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Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

Gene
 

From the moderator:
 
I don't know why he is doing it and we have no basis to assume anything.  I doubt it is intentional rudeness.  I would say that people should simply not comment on any post by Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo unless he asks a new and useful question.  Repetitive questions, the same question four times in a month or even twice in a month or six months, should simply be ignored. 
 
It is not useful to have a debate on list about Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo or his posts.  If such unproductive debates continue, I shall lock all threads where such debates begin.   
 
If Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo is too outrageous, I shall moderate him.  Moderation means that I shall see every post from him and have to approve each post before it reaches the list.  If I do that, I shall simply not approve repetitive questions nor questions that in any way, promote sites where illegal activity occurs.  . 
 
I'm explaining all this because Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo sent a post yesterday in which he seemed to indicate that he didn't know what being moderated means and because there may be other list members who don't know. 
 
I am not the list owner and if he wishes to deal with this matter differently, that is what he will do as list owner.  I've stated what I will do unless the owner wishes something different to be done.
 
Also, on further consideration, I've changed my mind about how long moderation will last.  It will last at least two months and whether it is lifted will depend on the kinds of posts Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo  sends for approval.
 
 
Gene


Re: How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
 

can thety they make NVDA plus a add on with more voices a NVDA
broserand mor free voices/add ons if NVDA is free y? the voices are
not they shude b free

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If you don't like his messages do not read them?


I doubt he is doing it deliberately in any case. the correct question to ask

is what is his native language and is there an nvda list in it?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <gmjc341961@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack
cost


Foolish One: Why are you asking a different question while using a thread

then has nothing to do with what you ask!

If you don't understand English well enough to understand when you are
told that your behavior on the mailing lists is very awful!!! Then you
need to find mailing lists in your native language. And, maybe they will
put up with all your foolishness!!!



On 9/19/2017 6:11 AM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
weather add on does it work the link to the weather add on plus

On 9/19/17, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:
To be fair though, he did ask a question, and so far, I've not actually
seen an answer to his question. I'm kind of curious myself now. How
much do these other voices for NVDA cost?
I know I could go to the web sites, dig around for 10 or fifteen
minutes, and find out all the information myself, but you know, that's
why resources exist in multiple formats, and there's a reason folks ask
on mailing lists for answers to questions that are clearly answered
elsewhere, and that is because it's easier for some folks to receive
the answer in their inbox than it is to go digging around on a web site
that may or may not be screen reader friendly. I know that in this
case, the sites are, but that's not always the case.
So, how much are these add on voices anyway?





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Re: Latest Next snap update as portable will not restart

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its a funny one as I've done it three times now in different places with the same result each time. However if you do not use the new restart checkbox all goes well and one can restart manually, which is why I postulateed(they can't touch you for it) that it might have a flaw in its restart logic, perhaps not allowing time for the old temp copy to exit nicely. I can remember when I wascapturing logs from the old version that I had to add a time out to allow for this to happen or it eithr fell over or part of the end of the log was missing. For example the end of a log on my forced reboot looks like this

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (18:35:53.812):
Input: kb(desktop):s
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (18:35:53.834):
Speaking character u's'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (18:35:53.834):
Adding generator 3036
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (18:35:53.848):
generator 3036 finished
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (18:35:55.525):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (18:35:55.569):
Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (18:35:57.796):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
IO - speech.speak (18:35:57.875):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (18:35:57.907):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal']
IO - speech.speak (18:35:57.908):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'blank']
INFO - core.main (18:35:57.951):
Exiting
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:57.951):
Terminating updateCheck
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:57.951):
Terminating watchdog
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:57.951):
Terminating global plugin handler
DEBUG - external:globalPlugins.focusHighlight.GlobalPlugin.terminate (18:35:58.451):
focusHighlight terminated
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.451):
Terminating gui
DEBUG - fileUtils.FaultTolerantFile (18:35:58.457):
C:\nvda test folder\userConfig\nvda.ininj03lf.tmp
INFO - config.ConfigManager.save (18:35:58.473):
Base configuration saved
DEBUG - core.main (18:35:58.473):
calling lose focus on object with focus
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.476):
Terminating treeInterceptorHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.476):
Terminating IAccessible support
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.476):
Terminating UIA support
DEBUGWARNING - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.terminate (18:35:58.677):
Timeout or error while waiting for UIAHandler MTA thread
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.677):
Terminating winConsole support
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.677):
Terminating Java Access Bridge support
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.677):
Terminating app module handler
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.677):
Terminating NVDAHelper
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.686):
Terminating touchHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.686):
Terminating keyboard handler
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.686):
Terminating mouseHandler
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.686):
Terminating inputCore
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.686):
Terminating brailleInput
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.687):
Terminating braille
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.687):
Terminating speech
DEBUG - core._terminate (18:35:58.687):
Terminating addonHandler
DEBUG - core.main (18:35:59.733):
core done
INFO - __main__ (18:35:59.749):
NVDA exit

But in my log if you notice it just stops when the update tries to start the portable copy, no clean exit at all.

This delay in my restart has never failed.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Next snap update as portable will not restart


I'll have to actually test that as I have not updated my portable copy of nvda as of yet.

Take care
On Sep 19, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Anyone had issues with next snaps as portable versions when you select the start after its finished updating box all goes quiet. You have to tab once, hit space then boot in another copy of nvda. The log looks to me like its not actually teerminating the old nvda to me, which may or may not be the issue. anyone care to commeent, or is this yet a further manifestation of the .dic files issue?
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Create Portable NVDA dialog To create a portable copy of NVDA, please select the path and other options and then press Continue']
IO - speech.speak (12:45:56.059):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Portable directory: grouping']
IO - speech.speak (12:45:56.073):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Browse... button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:45:56.826):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speak (12:45:56.888):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Start the new portable copy after creation check box not checked Alt+s']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:45:58.490):
Input: kb(desktop):space
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (12:45:58.496):
Speaking character u'space'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (12:45:58.496):
Adding generator 7
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (12:45:58.507):
generator 7 finished
IO - speech.speak (12:45:58.605):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'checked']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:45:59.387):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speak (12:45:59.426):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Continue button Alt+c']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:46:00.378):
Input: kb(desktop):space
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (12:46:00.384):
Speaking character u'space'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (12:46:00.384):
Adding generator 8
IO - speech.speak (12:46:00.384):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'pressed']
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (12:46:00.400):
generator 8 finished
IO - speech.speak (12:46:00.676):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Creating Portable Copy dialog Please wait while a portable copy of NVDA is created.']
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:00.976):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib\next-14432,821b31df\tmptgy6zd, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:01.470):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (12:46:01.476):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Please wait']
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:01.477):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib\next-14432,821b31df\tmpv_cnld, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:01.523):
Beep at pitch 110.0, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (12:46:01.529):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'0 percent']
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:01.993):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib\tmpzn_1rc, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:02.486):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:02.513):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib64\next-14432,821b31df\tmpjj2ego, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:03.013):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib64\next-14432,821b31df\tmpixzn30, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:03.500):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:03.529):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib64\tmpucgbwe, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:04.513):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - tones.beep (12:46:04.739):
Beep at pitch 1760, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (12:46:04.789):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Success dialog Successfully created a portable copy of NVDA at C:\\nvda extra']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:04.801):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'OK button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:46:07.473):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:46:07.558):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.598):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Creating Portable Copy dialog Please wait while a portable copy of NVDA is created.']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.602):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Creating Portable Copy']
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:46:07.684):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.730):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Downloads - Mozilla Firefox']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.769):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Downloads']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.769):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'list']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.786):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'nvda_snapshot_next-14456,d8cc508f.exe 21.4 MB \u2014 windows.net \u2014 12:45 Open Containing Folder 1 of 1']


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Re: How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

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Please don't be rude.
If you don't like his messages do not read them?


I doubt he is doing it deliberately in any case. the correct question to ask is what is his native language and is there an nvda list in it?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos" <gmjc341961@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost


Foolish One: Why are you asking a different question while using a thread then has nothing to do with what you ask!

If you don't understand English well enough to understand when you are told that your behavior on the mailing lists is very awful!!! Then you need to find mailing lists in your native language. And, maybe they will put up with all your foolishness!!!



On 9/19/2017 6:11 AM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
weather add on does it work the link to the weather add on plus

On 9/19/17, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:
To be fair though, he did ask a question, and so far, I've not actually
seen an answer to his question. I'm kind of curious myself now. How
much do these other voices for NVDA cost?
I know I could go to the web sites, dig around for 10 or fifteen
minutes, and find out all the information myself, but you know, that's
why resources exist in multiple formats, and there's a reason folks ask
on mailing lists for answers to questions that are clearly answered
elsewhere, and that is because it's easier for some folks to receive
the answer in their inbox than it is to go digging around on a web site
that may or may not be screen reader friendly. I know that in this
case, the sites are, but that's not always the case.
So, how much are these add on voices anyway?





--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com



Re: How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

Carlos
 

Foolish One:  Why are you asking a different question while using a thread then has nothing to do with what you ask!

    If you don't understand English well enough to understand when you are told that your behavior on the mailing lists is very awful!!!  Then you need to find mailing lists in your native language.  And, maybe they will put up with all your foolishness!!!

On 9/19/2017 6:11 AM, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo wrote:
weather add on does it work the link to the weather add on plus

On 9/19/17, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:
To be fair though, he did ask a question, and so far, I've not actually
seen an answer to his question.  I'm kind of curious myself now.  How
much do these other voices for NVDA cost?
I know I could go to the web sites, dig around for 10 or fifteen
minutes, and find out all the information myself, but you know, that's
why resources exist in multiple formats, and there's a reason folks ask
on mailing lists for answers to questions that are clearly answered
elsewhere, and that  is because it's easier for some folks to receive
the answer in their inbox than it is to go digging around on a web site
that may or may not be screen reader friendly.  I know that in this
case, the sites are, but that's not always the case.
So, how much are these add on voices anyway?





--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Re: Latest Next snap update as portable will not restart

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'll have to actually test that as I have not updated my portable copy of nvda as of yet.

Take care

On Sep 19, 2017, at 4:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Anyone had issues with next snaps as portable versions when you select the start after its finished updating box all goes quiet. You have to tab once, hit space then boot in another copy of nvda. The log looks to me like its not actually teerminating the old nvda to me, which may or may not be the issue. anyone care to commeent, or is this yet a further manifestation of the .dic files issue?
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Create Portable NVDA dialog To create a portable copy of NVDA, please select the path and other options and then press Continue']
IO - speech.speak (12:45:56.059):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Portable directory: grouping']
IO - speech.speak (12:45:56.073):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Browse... button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:45:56.826):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speak (12:45:56.888):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Start the new portable copy after creation check box not checked Alt+s']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:45:58.490):
Input: kb(desktop):space
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (12:45:58.496):
Speaking character u'space'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (12:45:58.496):
Adding generator 7
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (12:45:58.507):
generator 7 finished
IO - speech.speak (12:45:58.605):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'checked']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:45:59.387):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - speech.speak (12:45:59.426):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Continue button Alt+c']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:46:00.378):
Input: kb(desktop):space
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (12:46:00.384):
Speaking character u'space'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (12:46:00.384):
Adding generator 8
IO - speech.speak (12:46:00.384):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'pressed']
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (12:46:00.400):
generator 8 finished
IO - speech.speak (12:46:00.676):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Creating Portable Copy dialog Please wait while a portable copy of NVDA is created.']
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:00.976):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib\next-14432,821b31df\tmptgy6zd, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:01.470):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (12:46:01.476):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Please wait']
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:01.477):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib\next-14432,821b31df\tmpv_cnld, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:01.523):
Beep at pitch 110.0, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (12:46:01.529):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'0 percent']
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:01.993):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib\tmpzn_1rc, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:02.486):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:02.513):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib64\next-14432,821b31df\tmpjj2ego, marking for delete on reboot
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:03.013):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib64\next-14432,821b31df\tmpixzn30, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:03.500):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
DEBUGWARNING - installer.tryRemoveFile (12:46:03.529):
Failed to delete file C:\nvda extra\lib64\tmpucgbwe, marking for delete on reboot
IO - tones.beep (12:46:04.513):
Beep at pitch 440, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - tones.beep (12:46:04.739):
Beep at pitch 1760, for 40 ms, left volume 50, right volume 50
IO - speech.speak (12:46:04.789):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Success dialog Successfully created a portable copy of NVDA at C:\\nvda extra']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:04.801):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'OK button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:46:07.473):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:46:07.558):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.598):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Creating Portable Copy dialog Please wait while a portable copy of NVDA is created.']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.602):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Creating Portable Copy']
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:46:07.684):
accRole failed: (-2147024809, 'The parameter is incorrect.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.730):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Downloads - Mozilla Firefox']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.769):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Downloads']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.769):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'list']
IO - speech.speak (12:46:07.786):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'nvda_snapshot_next-14456,d8cc508f.exe 21.4 MB \u2014 windows.net \u2014 12:45 Open Containing Folder 1 of 1']


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Re: using facebook

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Well no I have never used any of those.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerardo Corripio" <gera1027@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using facebook


For Twitter, there's TwBlue from

https://twblue.es/downloads/

firstly and most importantly, very very compatible with NVDA; it's very easy/intuitive to use since it has both a graphic interface, as well as if you've used Qwitter, The Qube and others similar, a similar interface to these.


El 19/09/2017 a las 06:26 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escribió:
Yes I gave up even trying to understand it, Even on the mobile site.
Is there a blind friendly client for any of the so called social media sites that are easy to use?
I don't want them to rule my life, but of late so much information I'm expected to know about is on Twitter or Facebook its beginning to look like I'll have to bite the bullet again. Maybe I can employ a young person to do it for me!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2017 11:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] using facebook


hi,

How do you guys use facebook with nvda? In particular, searching group posts and viewing the results, but most actions seem laggy. Also, nvda randomly jumps around on the page.




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Re: Firefox new 'feature' how to turn it off?

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I'm going through them one at a time and seeing what will occur, Currently have only done 1 so we shall see as I use it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox new 'feature' how to turn it off?


My only guess is the Security Tab of Options and look under the "Block Dangerous and Deceptive Content" checkbox or uncheck that checkbox entirely. It has two sub-options, and I'm guessing the second might be your issue.

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The latest on the Firefox 56 focus bug from Bugzilla

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I hope this is understandable. ahem.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1394207

Azminachanged Bug 1394207 at 2017-09-18 10:36:30 PDT:

Added
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azmina721@gmail.com
QA Whiteboard

[bugday-20170913]

Comment # 21 on Bug 1394207 from Azminaat 2017-09-18 10:36:30 PDT
I have reproduced this bug with Nightly 57.0a1 (2017-08-24) on Windows 8.1, 64
Bit!

This bug's fix is verified on Latest Nightly 57.0a1.

Build ID : 20170918100059
User Agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/57.0


Product/Component: Firefox :: General

Tracking Flags:
. status-firefox-esr52:unaffected
. status-firefox55:unaffected
. tracking-firefox56:-
. status-firefox56:wontfix
. status-firefox57:fixed

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Re: How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
 

please lets change the topic. hoo starded the nvda voices gist change
the subject I did not do it

On 9/19/17, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,

I received this off-list message from a member, and it was truly
appreciated. Yes, I am clarifying that I was not referring to Amber in my
message... I truly apologize to you on-list Amber for my accusatory
message.

Thanks.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Marshall handheld Flax <m.droid.flax@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 9:24 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice
pack cost
To: <nimerjaber1@gmail.com>


(Replying off-list). One small note: the "original poster" of this thread
was an "Amber" who is new to the list -- I think it was her first post. I
believe your warning was to Mr. Oguledo. Just wanted to clarify!

Marshall

---------- Forwarded message --------
From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1@gmail.com>
Date: Sep 19, 2017 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack
cost
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Cc:

Hello,

I am just catching up after a day of not looking at mail... please, let's
all wrap up this thread. If it continues, I will lock it... Also, to the
original poster, the next post that comes through here about eloquence,
voices, or that illegal site, your posting privileges will be revoked and I
will be hard to convince that they should be unrevoked.

Thanks.

Nimer Jaber, List Owner

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 8:11 AM mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo <
ochikodinaka@gmail.com> wrote:

weather add on does it work the link to the weather add on plus

On 9/19/17, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:
To be fair though, he did ask a question, and so far, I've not actually
seen an answer to his question. I'm kind of curious myself now. How
much do these other voices for NVDA cost?
I know I could go to the web sites, dig around for 10 or fifteen
minutes, and find out all the information myself, but you know, that's
why resources exist in multiple formats, and there's a reason folks ask
on mailing lists for answers to questions that are clearly answered
elsewhere, and that is because it's easier for some folks to receive
the answer in their inbox than it is to go digging around on a web site
that may or may not be screen reader friendly. I know that in this
case, the sites are, but that's not always the case.
So, how much are these add on voices anyway?






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My core values are integrity, innovation, loyalty, excellence, and 100%
personal responsibility.

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
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please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
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criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
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To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
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You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

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