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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

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No 52 on intell chipped xp machines is as far up you can go. I suspect that photon is a development of the old version of the engine.
One problem I get on Firefox is the attitude that unless you are careful, they will install a 64 bit version on 64 bit systems, when all the tests I've tried tell me that the 32 bit version is just as good and less likely to crash or hog the processor.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


i am not sure exactly about photon, but read comments in some of
sighted websites and many users were not satisfied with photon!
many wanted to migrate to another browser!

but it does not work on xp and i realy cant test.

On 9/17/17, Nika Tsiklauri <ntsiklauri2@gmail.com> wrote:
hi! zahra, i have tested it there. it works good. personaly for me it did. i
have not had experiencing the issues with it.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2017, at 13:47, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi Tony


Is it doing the following in short? it will not read any thing in your
browsers except edge in windows 10? can you get to any of the menus in
fire fox etc? Down where the running applications area is does nvda say
unknown as you arrow through that section? If you use the context menu
will it speak any of the items in it? I am wondering if is that bug?


have a look on my nvda audio tutorials page and go to the section on
trouble shooting and look for the heading that says unknown or pane for
windows 10.


I can not remember either but there is a patch etc but can not remember if
it is on that page as well. it might only be for windows 7 or 8 machines?


have a look at this ticket and read the comments down near the bottom. The
link to this page is
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

The steps that fixed a friends computer is on my nvda audio tutorials
page. but check out the comments first for the ticket.


Gene nz





On 16/09/2017 15:20, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In firefox,
and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars,
tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it
happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10
version 1607. Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got
them scratching their heads as well

Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try
to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the
tab key.

Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs

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which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
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Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

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Does anyone have a link to Libra Office that can be used as a portable version? It will solvde an issue with clashing word processores in our group.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


hi.
libreoffice is fork of openoffice, but now i believe that libreoffice
is very stable in compare to openoffice!it works very better, the
features are more and in some aspects, there catogory is better to
understand.

if you want to download the last stable version of libreoffice for
32bit windows, here you are the link!

now openoffice and libreoffice dont require java and access briedge to work.

https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.3.6.1/win/x86/LibreOffice_5.3.6.1_Win_x86.msi

On 9/17/17, Howard Traxler <howard@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:
Hi, I just got here and thanks for letting me in.

Is Open Office and Libra Office the same thing? Some years ago, I tried to

use open office and had no success. Just now I installed Libra Office on my

XP machine and it seems to work ok with JAWS. Having problems with ms
office so was thinking of using Libra Office on my win10 machine with NVDA.

Anyone had experience with that? Thanks.

Howard

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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


I don't think so actually. I know plenty of sighted people using Open
Office and Libra Office with no issues

My feeling on this is that its getting very complicated to hook into
processes that are both part of windows and may also be being used by
applications.Those with long memories will remember display chain drivers

in XP and earlier, where any piece of software that needed access to the
screen output had to hook in through a piece of software loaded at boot
time. The snag often was that some software did not do this well and the
whole thing slowed down or fell over.
If you are screen scraping this video monitoring was often the only way to

get at content for screenreaders. I can well recall that some upper end
graphics cards used by gamers had non standard drivers and the display
chain programs never worked right on them.
I suspect these days especially with ported programs like Open Office that

there are similar issues due to the portability of some of the code to
other operating systems.
Just my thoughts.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft
office.




On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

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Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus has
not
just hidden it for you?
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it is
gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

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Re: Question on a Firefox setting

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The other thing is that it also allows you to set it to update on various update channels, such as beta or release versions.
The issue with 56 is really one of where it focuses by default. It has a work around but is just annoying. I'm no6t certain why it was not back ported, but then programmers can sometimes work in mysterious ways.
There is nothing wrong with 55, and indeed on the older operating systems now not supported by nvda, you can only have 52 or 48 depending on your processor and they seem to work OK as well.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting


I know it's in there somewhere probably under Options which may be in Tools but the options has many tabs and one of them has a check box for automatically downloading and installing updates and I have mine unchecked but I can always do updates manually at any time. When I hear of a version that isn't very screen reader friendly, I just wait a few weeks or maybe a month or so until the next update comes out and then get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone else here can give you more exact instructions as to how to get to that little check box.

Roger









On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi list,
After reading the list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to adjust the setting to avoid automatic updates.

I use NVDA exclusively as my screen reader.
I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit on a Windows7 machine.

How can I set Firefox to let me know about available updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to update?

Thanks!
LM




Re: regarding ms access

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yes indeed but does the cursoring around in that field now work?
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From: "slery" <slerythema@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] regarding ms access


F2 allows you to edit any field.
Cindy


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Not really, its a bit of a mixed up bit of software. As I said previously
trying to make a database and add macros can be basically a pathway to
insanity, but databases built by the sighted can be mostly accessible if
designed correctly, except for editing the entry fields.
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] regarding ms access


I've heard of a lot of trouble with microsoft access and data bases over
the years. In fact a student I know had to drop a class bcause of
inaccessibility of access, and they were using jaws, and this was in 2012..
I hope someone else has better news.
On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@gmail.com> wrote:

hello group member I am facing a problime with using a NVDA I am doing the
MS access but NVDA is not supported the MS access program I am try the all
MS office version I have practical in MS access 2007, 2010, 2013, & 2016
but nvda is not working so please tel me how to solve this problem?






Re: regarding ms access

slery <slerythema@...>
 

F2 allows you to edit any field.
Cindy


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Not really, its a bit of a mixed up bit of software. As I said previously
trying to make a database and add macros can be basically a pathway to
insanity, but databases built by the sighted can be mostly accessible if
designed correctly, except for editing the entry fields.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] regarding ms access


I've heard of a lot of trouble with microsoft access and data bases over
the years. In fact a student I know had to drop a class bcause of
inaccessibility of access, and they were using jaws, and this was in 2012..
I hope someone else has better news.
On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@gmail.com> wrote:

hello group member I am facing a problime with using a NVDA I am doing the
MS access but NVDA is not supported the MS access program I am try the all
MS office version I have practical in MS access 2007, 2010, 2013, & 2016
but nvda is not working so please tel me how to solve this problem?




how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016?

I have the version 17.03 and I am running windows seven.

So is ther anything to whatch out for when using that program?

Or does it work just as it is with NVDA the latest version?

 

 


Re: Question on a Firefox setting

Laurie Mehta
 

Yes, and Zara has shared that and I've accomplished what I wanted to do. Thanks all!
-LM

--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 9/16/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, September 16, 2017, 7:24 PM


I forgot about the help
item.  If you tab once
more, you will find what I was describing. 
 
Gene
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Original Message
-----



From: Laurie
Mehta via Groups.Io

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox
setting

Thanks Roger and Gene...

Hi Gene,
I'm having some
difficulty.
I followed your instructions:


You wrote: In Firefox,
open
tools with alt t.
Open options with o.
Wait a moment and then tab once
even if you don't hear anything.  You will now be in a
list of
categories.
Press end.
You
are now in advanced.

So
far, so good,
but...

Then you recommend:
Tab once.

At this point,
tabbing once
lands me on a link labelled help and arrowing does not
result in getting to
anything that is spoken.

You had recommended to: Right arrow until you
get to updates.
Tab through the items and
you will find the one you
want.
There is no ok button.  Just set the
option and do whatever you
want, close the browser, open another page, follow a book
mark,
etc.
Gene

What am I
missing?
Thanks,
LM

--------------------------------------------
On
Sat, 9/16/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>

wrote:

 Subject: Re:
[nvda] Question on a Firefox
setting
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 Date:
Saturday, September 16, 2017, 12:42 PM
 
 
 In Firefox,
open tools with
 alt t.
 Open options
with
 o.
 Wait a moment
and then tab
 once even if you
don't
 hear anything.  You will now
be in a list
of
 categories.
 Press
end.
 You are now
in
 advanced.
 Tab
once.
 Right arrow until you
get
 to updates.
 Tab
through the items and
 you will
find the one you
 want.
 There is no ok
button. 
 Just set the option
 and do whatever you want,
close the browser, open another
 page,
follow a book
 mark,
etc.
  
 Gene
 
 ----- original
Message
 -----
 
 
 From: Roger
 Stewart

 Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:36
PM
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 
 Subject:
Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox
 setting
 
 I know it's
in there
 somewhere probably under Options
which may
 be in

 Tools but the options has many tabs
 and one of them has a
check box
 for
 automatically downloading
and
 installing updates and I have mine
 
 unchecked
but I can always do updates
 manually at
any time.  When I

 hear
 of a version that
isn't very
 screen reader
friendly, I just wait a few
 
 weeks or maybe a month or so
until the next
 update comes out and then

 
 get
that.
 
 Hope this helps
you locate it but maybe
someone
 else here
 can
give you
 more exact
instructions as to
 how to get to that
little check

 box.
 
 Roger
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On
9/16/2017 12:02 PM,
 Laurie Mehta via
Groups.Io wrote:
 >
Hi
 list,
 > After
reading the
 list discussion
about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to
 adjust the setting to

 avoid automatic updates.
 >
 > I use NVDA
exclusively as my screen
 reader.
 > I am using Firefox
55.3, 32bit
 on a Windows7

 machine.
 >
 > How can I
 set Firefox
to
let me know about available
 updates tut
to let me manually decide
whether or not to
 update?
 >
 >

 Thanks!
 > LM
 >
 >

 
 >
 >


Re: Question on a Firefox setting

Gene
 

I forgot about the help item.  If you tab once more, you will find what I was describing. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting

Thanks Roger and Gene...

Hi Gene,
I'm having some difficulty.
I followed your instructions:

You wrote: In Firefox, open tools with alt t.
Open options with o.
Wait a moment and then tab once even if you don't hear anything.  You will now be in a list of categories.
Press end.
You are now in advanced.

So far, so good, but...

Then you recommend: Tab once.

At this point, tabbing once lands me on a link labelled help and arrowing does not result in getting to anything that is spoken.

You had recommended to: Right arrow until you get to updates.
Tab through the items and you will find the one you want.
There is no ok button.  Just set the option and do whatever you want, close the browser, open another page, follow a book mark, etc.
Gene

What am I missing?
Thanks,
LM

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 9/16/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 Date: Saturday, September 16, 2017, 12:42 PM
 
 
 In Firefox, open tools with
 alt t.
 Open options with
 o.
 Wait a moment and then tab
 once even if you don't
 hear anything.  You will now be in a list of
 categories.
 Press end.
 You are now in
 advanced.
 Tab once.
 Right arrow until you get
 to updates.
 Tab through the items and
 you will find the one you
 want.
 There is no ok button. 
 Just set the option
 and do whatever you want, close the browser, open another
 page, follow a book
 mark, etc.
  
 Gene
 
 ----- original Message
 -----
 
 
 From: Roger
 Stewart
 Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:36 PM
 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
 
 Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox
 setting
 
 I know it's in there
 somewhere probably under Options which may
 be in
 Tools but the options has many tabs
 and one of them has a check box
 for
 automatically downloading and
 installing updates and I have mine
 
 unchecked but I can always do updates
 manually at any time.  When I
 hear
 of a version that isn't very
 screen reader friendly, I just wait a few
 
 weeks or maybe a month or so until the next
 update comes out and then
 
 get that.
 
 Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone
 else here
 can give you
 more exact instructions as to
 how to get to that little check
 box.
 
 Roger
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM,
 Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
 > Hi
 list,
 > After reading the
 list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to
 adjust the setting to
 avoid automatic updates.
 >
 > I use NVDA exclusively as my screen
 reader.
 > I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit
 on a Windows7
 machine.
 >
 > How can I
 set Firefox to let me know about available
 updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to
 update?
 >
 >
 Thanks!
 > LM
 >
 >
 
 >
 >
 
 
 
 
 




Re: Question on a Firefox setting

Laurie Mehta
 

Thank you very much! This was what was needed and I have accomplished what I wanted to do.
After getting to the updates tab tabbing twice from the advanced listing, it was easy to get to the choice of update settings and to change the radio button setting via arrowing down.
I have set mine to the middle choice where Firefox will let me know of updates but wait for me to update manually.
Thanks,
LM
--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 9/16/17, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, September 16, 2017, 7:13 PM

hi.
when you are
in advance, just press tab twice not once to achieve your
desire.
there are 5 tabs, general for
accessibility, data choices for sending
or
not sending data about your browser to mozilla, network for
setting
your desire proxy, and the fourth
option is update and the last one is
certificate.
hope that help,
God bless you all.

On
9/17/17, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io <lauriemehta=yahoo.com@groups.io>
wrote:
> Thanks Roger and Gene...
>
> Hi Gene,
> I'm having some difficulty.
> I followed your instructions:
>
> You wrote: In
Firefox, open tools with alt t.
> Open
options with o.
> Wait a moment and then
tab once even if you don't hear anything.  You will
> now be in a list of categories.
> Press end.
> You are
now in advanced.
>
>
So far, so good, but...
>
> Then you recommend: Tab once.
>
> At this point,
tabbing once lands me on a link labelled help and
arrowing
> does not result in getting to
anything that is spoken.
>
> You had recommended to: Right arrow until
you get to updates.
> Tab through the
items and you will find the one you want.
> There is no ok button.  Just set the
option and do whatever you want, close
>
the browser, open another page, follow a book mark, etc.
> Gene
>
> What am I missing?
>
Thanks,
> LM
>
>
--------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 9/16/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com>
wrote:
>
>  Subject:
Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting
>  To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>  Date: Saturday, September 16, 2017,
12:42 PM
>
>
>  In Firefox, open tools with
>  alt t.
>  Open
options with
>  o.
>  Wait a moment and then tab
>  once even if you don't
>  hear anything.  You will now be in a
list of
>  categories.
>  Press end.
>  You
are now in
>  advanced.
>  Tab once.
>  Right
arrow until you get
>  to updates.
>  Tab through the items and
>  you will find the one you
>  want.
>  There is no
ok button.
>  Just set the option
>  and do whatever you want, close the
browser, open another
>  page, follow a
book
>  mark, etc.
>
>  Gene
>
>  ----- original
Message
>  -----
>
>
>  From: Roger
>  Stewart
>  Sent:
Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:36 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
>  Subject: Re: [nvda]
Question on a Firefox
>  setting
>
>  I know it's in
there
>  somewhere probably under
Options which may
>  be in
>  Tools but the options has many tabs
>  and one of them has a check box
>  for
>  automatically
downloading and
>  installing updates
and I have mine
>

unchecked but I can always do updates

manually at any time.  When I

hear
>  of a version that isn't
very
>  screen reader friendly, I just
wait a few
>
>  weeks
or maybe a month or so until the next

update comes out and then
>
>  get that.
>
>  Hope this helps you locate it but maybe
someone
>  else here
>  can give you
>  more
exact instructions as to
>  how to get
to that little check
>  box.
>
>  Roger
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On 9/16/2017 12:02
PM,
>  Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io
wrote:
>  > Hi

list,
>  > After reading the
>  list discussion about Firefox v56, I am
wondering how to
>  adjust the setting
to
>  avoid automatic updates.
>  >
>  > I use
NVDA exclusively as my screen

reader.
>  > I am using Firefox 55.3,
32bit
>  on a Windows7
>  machine.
>  >
>  > How can I

set Firefox to let me know about available
>  updates tut to let me manually decide
whether or not to
>  update?
>  >
>  >
>  Thanks!
>  >
LM
>  >

>
>
>  >
>  >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
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not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet
Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the
beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in
different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

 

i am not sure exactly about photon, but read comments in some of
sighted websites and many users were not satisfied with photon!
many wanted to migrate to another browser!

but it does not work on xp and i realy cant test.

On 9/17/17, Nika Tsiklauri <ntsiklauri2@gmail.com> wrote:
hi! zahra, i have tested it there. it works good. personaly for me it did. i
have not had experiencing the issues with it.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2017, at 13:47, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi Tony


Is it doing the following in short? it will not read any thing in your
browsers except edge in windows 10? can you get to any of the menus in
fire fox etc? Down where the running applications area is does nvda say
unknown as you arrow through that section? If you use the context menu
will it speak any of the items in it? I am wondering if is that bug?


have a look on my nvda audio tutorials page and go to the section on
trouble shooting and look for the heading that says unknown or pane for
windows 10.


I can not remember either but there is a patch etc but can not remember if
it is on that page as well. it might only be for windows 7 or 8 machines?


have a look at this ticket and read the comments down near the bottom. The
link to this page is
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

The steps that fixed a friends computer is on my nvda audio tutorials
page. but check out the comments first for the ticket.


Gene nz





On 16/09/2017 15:20, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In firefox,
and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars,
tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it
happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10
version 1607. Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got
them scratching their heads as well

Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try
to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the
tab key.

Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs

Virus-free. www.avast.com
--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed
the NVDA expert exam.
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

 

hi.
libreoffice is fork of openoffice, but now i believe that libreoffice
is very stable in compare to openoffice!it works very better, the
features are more and in some aspects, there catogory is better to
understand.

if you want to download the last stable version of libreoffice for
32bit windows, here you are the link!

now openoffice and libreoffice dont require java and access briedge to work.

https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.3.6.1/win/x86/LibreOffice_5.3.6.1_Win_x86.msi

On 9/17/17, Howard Traxler <howard@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:
Hi, I just got here and thanks for letting me in.

Is Open Office and Libra Office the same thing? Some years ago, I tried to

use open office and had no success. Just now I installed Libra Office on my

XP machine and it seems to work ok with JAWS. Having problems with ms
office so was thinking of using Libra Office on my win10 machine with NVDA.

Anyone had experience with that? Thanks.

Howard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


I don't think so actually. I know plenty of sighted people using Open
Office and Libra Office with no issues

My feeling on this is that its getting very complicated to hook into
processes that are both part of windows and may also be being used by
applications.Those with long memories will remember display chain drivers

in XP and earlier, where any piece of software that needed access to the
screen output had to hook in through a piece of software loaded at boot
time. The snag often was that some software did not do this well and the
whole thing slowed down or fell over.
If you are screen scraping this video monitoring was often the only way to

get at content for screenreaders. I can well recall that some upper end
graphics cards used by gamers had non standard drivers and the display
chain programs never worked right on them.
I suspect these days especially with ported programs like Open Office that

there are similar issues due to the portability of some of the code to
other operating systems.
Just my thoughts.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft
office.




On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

On 9/15/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus has
not
just hidden it for you?
Brian

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From: "Jerry Schoen via Groups.Io" <jschoen91711=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it is
gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Question on a Firefox setting

 

hi.
when you are in advance, just press tab twice not once to achieve your desire.
there are 5 tabs, general for accessibility, data choices for sending
or not sending data about your browser to mozilla, network for setting
your desire proxy, and the fourth option is update and the last one is
certificate.
hope that help, God bless you all.

On 9/17/17, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io <lauriemehta=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thanks Roger and Gene...

Hi Gene,
I'm having some difficulty.
I followed your instructions:

You wrote: In Firefox, open tools with alt t.
Open options with o.
Wait a moment and then tab once even if you don't hear anything.  You will
now be in a list of categories.
Press end.
You are now in advanced.

So far, so good, but...

Then you recommend: Tab once.

At this point, tabbing once lands me on a link labelled help and arrowing
does not result in getting to anything that is spoken.

You had recommended to: Right arrow until you get to updates.
Tab through the items and you will find the one you want.
There is no ok button.  Just set the option and do whatever you want, close
the browser, open another page, follow a book mark, etc.
Gene

What am I missing?
Thanks,
LM

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 9/16/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, September 16, 2017, 12:42 PM


In Firefox, open tools with
alt t.
Open options with
o.
Wait a moment and then tab
once even if you don't
hear anything.  You will now be in a list of
categories.
Press end.
You are now in
advanced.
Tab once.
Right arrow until you get
to updates.
Tab through the items and
you will find the one you
want.
There is no ok button.
Just set the option
and do whatever you want, close the browser, open another
page, follow a book
mark, etc.

Gene

----- original Message
-----


From: Roger
Stewart
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox
setting

I know it's in there
somewhere probably under Options which may
be in
Tools but the options has many tabs
and one of them has a check box
for
automatically downloading and
installing updates and I have mine

unchecked but I can always do updates
manually at any time.  When I
hear
of a version that isn't very
screen reader friendly, I just wait a few

weeks or maybe a month or so until the next
update comes out and then

get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone
else here
can give you
more exact instructions as to
how to get to that little check
box.

Roger









On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM,
Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi
list,
> After reading the
list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to
adjust the setting to
avoid automatic updates.
>
> I use NVDA exclusively as my screen
reader.
> I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit
on a Windows7
machine.
>
> How can I
set Firefox to let me know about available
updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to
update?
>
>
Thanks!
> LM
>
>

>
>








--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Question on a Firefox setting

Laurie Mehta
 

Thanks Roger and Gene...

Hi Gene,
I'm having some difficulty.
I followed your instructions:

You wrote: In Firefox, open tools with alt t.
Open options with o.
Wait a moment and then tab once even if you don't hear anything.  You will now be in a list of categories.
Press end.
You are now in advanced.

So far, so good, but...

Then you recommend: Tab once.

At this point, tabbing once lands me on a link labelled help and arrowing does not result in getting to anything that is spoken.

You had recommended to: Right arrow until you get to updates.
Tab through the items and you will find the one you want.
There is no ok button.  Just set the option and do whatever you want, close the browser, open another page, follow a book mark, etc.
Gene

What am I missing?
Thanks,
LM

--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 9/16/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Saturday, September 16, 2017, 12:42 PM


In Firefox, open tools with
alt t.
Open options with
o.
Wait a moment and then tab
once even if you don't
hear anything.  You will now be in a list of
categories.
Press end.
You are now in
advanced.
Tab once.
Right arrow until you get
to updates.
Tab through the items and
you will find the one you
want.
There is no ok button. 
Just set the option
and do whatever you want, close the browser, open another
page, follow a book
mark, etc.
 
Gene

----- original Message
-----


From: Roger
Stewart
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox
setting

I know it's in there
somewhere probably under Options which may
be in
Tools but the options has many tabs
and one of them has a check box
for
automatically downloading and
installing updates and I have mine

unchecked but I can always do updates
manually at any time.  When I
hear
of a version that isn't very
screen reader friendly, I just wait a few

weeks or maybe a month or so until the next
update comes out and then

get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone
else here
can give you
more exact instructions as to
how to get to that little check
box.

Roger









On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM,
Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi
list,
> After reading the
list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to
adjust the setting to
avoid automatic updates.
>
> I use NVDA exclusively as my screen
reader.
> I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit
on a Windows7
machine.
>
> How can I
set Firefox to let me know about available
updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to
update?
>
>
Thanks!
> LM
>
>

>
>


Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Hi, I just got here and thanks for letting me in.

Is Open Office and Libra Office the same thing? Some years ago, I tried to use open office and had no success. Just now I installed Libra Office on my XP machine and it seems to work ok with JAWS. Having problems with ms office so was thinking of using Libra Office on my win10 machine with NVDA. Anyone had experience with that? Thanks.

Howard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


I don't think so actually. I know plenty of sighted people using Open Office and Libra Office with no issues

My feeling on this is that its getting very complicated to hook into processes that are both part of windows and may also be being used by applications.Those with long memories will remember display chain drivers in XP and earlier, where any piece of software that needed access to the screen output had to hook in through a piece of software loaded at boot time. The snag often was that some software did not do this well and the whole thing slowed down or fell over.
If you are screen scraping this video monitoring was often the only way to get at content for screenreaders. I can well recall that some upper end graphics cards used by gamers had non standard drivers and the display chain programs never worked right on them.
I suspect these days especially with ported programs like Open Office that there are similar issues due to the portability of some of the code to other operating systems.
Just my thoughts.
Brian
bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft office.




On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

On 9/15/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus has not
just hidden it for you?
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Schoen via Groups.Io" <jschoen91711=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it is gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



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Re: Question on a Firefox setting

Arlene
 

That was good.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: September-16-17 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting

 

In Firefox, open tools with alt t.

Open options with o.

Wait a moment and then tab once even if you don't hear anything.  You will now be in a list of categories.

Press end.

You are now in advanced.

Tab once.

Right arrow until you get to updates.

Tab through the items and you will find the one you want.

There is no ok button.  Just set the option and do whatever you want, close the browser, open another page, follow a book mark, etc.

 

Gene

----- original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting

 

I know it's in there somewhere probably under Options which may be in
Tools but the options has many tabs and one of them has a check box for
automatically downloading and installing updates and I have mine
unchecked but I can always do updates manually at any time.  When I hear
of a version that isn't very screen reader friendly, I just wait a few
weeks or maybe a month or so until the next update comes out and then
get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone else here can give you
more exact instructions as to how to get to that little check box.

Roger









On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi list,
> After reading the list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to adjust the setting to avoid automatic updates.
>
> I use NVDA exclusively as my screen reader.
> I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit on a Windows7 machine.
>
> How can I set Firefox to let me know about available updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to update?
>
> Thanks!
> LM
>
>
>
>



Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

Nika Tsiklauri
 

hi! zahra, i have tested it there. it works good. personaly for me it did. i have not had experiencing the issues with it.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2017, at 13:47, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

hi Tony


Is it doing the following in short? it will not read any thing in your browsers except edge in windows  10? can you get to any of the menus in fire fox etc? Down where the running applications area is does nvda say unknown as you arrow through that section? If you use the context menu will it speak any of the items in it? I am wondering if is that bug?


have a look on my nvda audio tutorials page and go to the section on trouble shooting and look for the heading that says unknown or pane  for windows 10.


I can not remember either but there is a patch etc but can not remember if it is on that page as well. it might only be for windows 7 or 8 machines?


have a look at this ticket and read the comments down near the bottom. The link to this page is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

The steps that fixed a friends computer is on my nvda audio tutorials page. but check out the comments first for the ticket.


Gene nz





On 16/09/2017 15:20, Tony Ballou wrote:

Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar.  In firefox, and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars, tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows.  Really odd, it happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10 version 1607.  Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got them scratching their heads as well


Tony


On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab key.

Thank you,




Virus-free. www.avast.com

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Question on a Firefox setting

Gene
 

In Firefox, open tools with alt t.
Open options with o.
Wait a moment and then tab once even if you don't hear anything.  You will now be in a list of categories.
Press end.
You are now in advanced.
Tab once.
Right arrow until you get to updates.
Tab through the items and you will find the one you want.
There is no ok button.  Just set the option and do whatever you want, close the browser, open another page, follow a book mark, etc.
 
Gene
----- original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting

I know it's in there somewhere probably under Options which may be in
Tools but the options has many tabs and one of them has a check box for
automatically downloading and installing updates and I have mine
unchecked but I can always do updates manually at any time.  When I hear
of a version that isn't very screen reader friendly, I just wait a few
weeks or maybe a month or so until the next update comes out and then
get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone else here can give you
more exact instructions as to how to get to that little check box.

Roger









On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi list,
> After reading the list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to adjust the setting to avoid automatic updates.
>
> I use NVDA exclusively as my screen reader.
> I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit on a Windows7 machine.
>
> How can I set Firefox to let me know about available updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to update?
>
> Thanks!
> LM
>
>
>
>




StationPlaylist Studio add-on 17.09.1 and 15.9-LTS #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

StationPlaylist Studio add-on 17.09.1 and 15.9-LTS are now available. The 15.x-LTS series is designed for people running old versions of Studio, and soon, users running Windows XP, Vista and 7 without Service Pack 1. More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/stationPlaylist/releases/tag/17.09.1

 

Important note for people running old Windows releases: In August 2017, NV Access announced that 2017.3 will be the last version to support Windows versions earlier than Windows 7 SP1. As a follow-up, the SPL add-on will transition to running on Windows 7 SP1 and later. Consequently, those running Windows XP, Vista and 7 without SP1 will be moved to LTS channel (15.x), with complete support ending in April 2018.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Question on a Firefox setting

Roger Stewart
 

I know it's in there somewhere probably under Options which may be in Tools but the options has many tabs and one of them has a check box for automatically downloading and installing updates and I have mine unchecked but I can always do updates manually at any time. When I hear of a version that isn't very screen reader friendly, I just wait a few weeks or maybe a month or so until the next update comes out and then get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone else here can give you more exact instructions as to how to get to that little check box.

Roger

On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi list,
After reading the list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to adjust the setting to avoid automatic updates.

I use NVDA exclusively as my screen reader.
I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit on a Windows7 machine.

How can I set Firefox to let me know about available updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to update?

Thanks!
LM



Question on a Firefox setting

Laurie Mehta
 

Hi list,
After reading the list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to adjust the setting to avoid automatic updates.

I use NVDA exclusively as my screen reader.
I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit on a Windows7 machine.

How can I set Firefox to let me know about available updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to update?

Thanks!
LM