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Re: one core voice install

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Did you get your one core voices installed?


If you are interested i did write up a tutorial on installing these voices on my website i am putting together. The page can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

When you get to it jump down by headings to the section about instaling the one core voices. You will have to use object navigation to get to the button to download the synth pack for it. the directions are step by step but the object navigation commands are only for the desktop not a lap top as that is what i use.


There is a link in the user manual if i remember right that tells you which voices have the synth pack which i will add later on today or tomorrow to the tutorial.


hope it helps.


I thought i had a audio tutorial but can not seem to find it and it is not in my drop box either.




hope it helps.

Gene nz



On 06/09/2017 10:55, Darren Tomblin wrote:
hi, on my win10 system i'm trying to install additional one core voice 
and I can't figure out how to do it. I go into region and languages and 
I don't see where to add the other english voices. can someone help me 
with this. thanks


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Re: Installation problem

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


usually in most cases it would be a uac screen that would come up. the portable version would not be able to see it only the installer version. when it comes up it or you would use the alt key + letter Y if i remember right so it keep on installing it.


the other thing is your anti virus could be stopping it? but if it is the one that comes with windows i do not think it would be.


You could always start up narrator on th ewindows 10 creators version use the ctrl key + windows key + the enter key to start him up. Make sure when you go to plug in the portable version then go to start it hopefully narrator might be able to see if there is a message there stopping nvda from been installed.


Is it the first time you done it  did you get the same results each time? I think you did.


the worst you could do is use narrator to go to programs and features in control panel and see if nvda was installed. If it was uninstall it.


The other place to to check is %appdata% then press the enter key. When the next screen comes up locate the nvda folder and delete it then use the alt key + f4 key to close that page.


You will most probably have to reboot windows then go back and install nvda maybe the nvda.ini file got corrupted?



Gene nz

On 06/09/2017 15:44, Jim Pipczak wrote:

Hi all,

 

I have a really interesting problem that I haven’t been able to solve.

I’ve never had a problem installing NVDA before including the laptop that I’m having problems with. I have downloaded it a couple times to make sure the file wasn’t a problem and have used it to install onto another laptop and it worked fine.

 

I am using as a backup laptop my very inexpensive Toshiba laptop. 64 bit, With 8Gb Ram. It works fine with the portable version of NVDA.

It’s running the latest Windows 10 creators edition. When I try to install NVDA I get the music that you expect, I then get the rising tones, and then a few seconds later I get the system sound that you would normally  need to answer yes or no to, to allow a program to make changes or install. However that doesn’t appear and it is not in the system tray. There is nothing in the task manager or process areas as well.

 

Any great thoughts would be very much appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Re: thunderbird add on

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I also have the directions and the link to the page where to get the add on from on my accessible email client mozilla thunder bird page.


The add on works a treat.


Gene nz



On 07/09/2017 02:05, Gene wrote:
A google search for Thunderbird add on first letter navigation produced this page as the second result
 
Gene
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From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:40 AM
Subject: [nvda] thunderbird add on

A short while ago someone on the list recommended a Thunderbird add on
that allowed single letter navigation of the folder tree in
Thunderbird.  Can someone give the name of that add on again.

Thanks





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Re: [DECtalk] Lyrebird TTS, a demo is finally here!

 

there is no way to inter the numbers n to the capcha

any one got a fix fore this?

On 9/6/2017 9:53 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

hopefully we will someday be able to use our lyrebird created voices with NVDA?




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Subject: [DECtalk] Lyrebird TTS, a demo is finally here!
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:20:01 -0400
From: Jayson Smith <jaybird@...>
Reply-To: DECtalk <dectalk@...>
To: DECtalk Discussions <dectalk@...>


Hi all,


A few months ago, I heard about Lyrebird, a future project which would 
allow anyone to create a synthetic clone of their own voice. Last night 
I found out that it's finally here, in an early beta form. If you go to 
http://lyrebird.ai and create an account, you can then record a minimum 
of thirty sentences they specify, the more you record the better, and 
then create your digital voice. Then you can have it speak any text you 
choose. I've played with it, and while the quality isn't the best, it 
does pretty accurately capture my voice, as well as most of the other 
people I know of who have created voices. Check it out!


Jayson


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Re: New NVDA sounds

 

can I also get them as well?

I can't find the wav folder

that I saved with the new sounds

On 9/6/2017 7:14 AM, zahra wrote:
quentin.
can you please send me the new sound privately?
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 9/6/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Mostly just to back up what others have said and give a bit more
background. Initially, the idea was simply to "refresh" the sounds, much
like we have also done with the logo in 2017.3. It wasn't that nobody
liked them, but it was really split - there were people who preferred the
old sounds, some who liked the new sounds, and some who wanted to change
the sounds, but didn't like the new ones either. We hadn't considered that
until the feedback started coming in from the snapshot users. We realised
then that what we needed to implement, more than just a new set of sounds
on its own, was a way for people to be able to change their own sounds.
One idea for this is along the lines of the way you can install add-ons.
Ideally, unlike add-ons, we want something that will be a bit easier for
users to package without needing programming skills.

Because of the divided feedback, we decided the best option (since it
hadn't yet rolled out to the majority of users), was to pull the new sounds
while we work on this new sound "theme" feature.

So, that's where it's at currently, and I believe someone else has provided
instructions in this thread for your question. Note that if you do that,
keep a backup of the sounds as they may get overridden when you update
NVDA, and they'll be easier to swap back if you've got the files handy.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <
clgilland07@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys,

I was running, a while back a snapshot of NVDA 2017.3, and noticed that
the NVDA sounds for things like startup, quitting, etc. were different
than
what they have been for the longest time.

Now, with the official release of 2017.3, I'm not seeing this.

Can someone advise me on how to go about getting those other sounds? I
liked them much better.

Chris.
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Re: Making Partition Using NVDA

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

On 9/6/2017 4:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
We were not just saying that it had to come with windows or that it be free, just that it worked and could run its config in windows.
That was all. I'm beginning to wish I'd never mentioned it here now.
In that case, you're in a different reality than me.  The original poster said this:

Kindly someone guide me to make partition on C drive using NVDA.
I am using Del laptop with Win10 64 Bits. In this laptop all the
space is reserved for C drive. I want to make two partitions to
allocate my data.

This is when I suggested using paragon disk manager, because it was accessible with nvda, or at least good enough to get the job done, to which the original poster said:

Hi, I don’t want to go with third party application. Built-in disk
management option can fulfil my requirement. My question is that How
to do this using NVDA?

Which clearly states the original poster wanted a utility included with windows, which also would indicate that they do not want to pay for a solution.
So, again, I say that since partition magic is neither free, nor included with windows, it fits neither requirement, and your insistence that it both does what the original poster wants for free, and is accessible with NVDA is wrong.  Insisting otherwise doesn't change the fact that your answer does not fit the original requirements.


Re: New NVDA sounds

Lino Morales
 

Good explanation. I actually liked the new ones. Only thing I wish would slightly is the startup message when speech is on. Loading NVDA. Please wait. I prefer to hear what you see on a Braille display. NVDA started. Short and sweet.


On 9/6/2017 7:17 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Mostly just to back up what others have said and give a bit more > background. Initially, the idea was simply to "refresh" the sounds, > much like we have also done with the logo in 2017.3. It wasn't that > nobody liked them, but it was really split - there were people who > preferred the old sounds, some who liked the new sounds, and some who > wanted to change the sounds, but didn't like the new ones either. We > hadn't considered that until the feedback started coming in from the > snapshot users. We realised then that what we needed to implement, > more than just a new set of sounds on its own, was a way for people > to be able to change their own sounds. One idea for this is along > the lines of the way you can install add-ons. Ideally, unlike > add-ons, we want something that will be a bit easier for users to > package without needing programming skills. > > Because of the divided feedback, we decided the best option (since it > hadn't yet rolled out to the majority of users), was to pull the new > sounds while we work on this new sound "theme" feature. > > So, that's where it's at currently, and I believe someone else has > provided instructions in this thread for your question. Note that if > you do that, keep a backup of the sounds as they may get overridden > when you update NVDA, and they'll be easier to swap back if you've > got the files handy. > > Regards > > Quentin. > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > <clgilland07@... <mailto:clgilland07@...>> wrote: > > Guys, > > I was running, a while back a snapshot of NVDA 2017.3, and noticed > that the NVDA sounds for things like startup, quitting, etc. were > different than what they have been for the longest time. > > Now, with the official release of 2017.3, I'm not seeing this. > > Can someone advise me on how to go about getting those other sounds? > I liked them much better. > > Chris. --- Christopher Gilland Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven > Ministries > > http://www.gshministry.org (980) 500-9575 > > > > > -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager > > Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now > available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ > > www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/> Facebook: > http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess


Re: reminders in outlook

Adriani Botez
 

I had the same problem. You have to create a new outlook profile with your account. This was the only way to solve this problem. Your old profile can be deleted afterwards.

 

Hope it helpts.

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Jessica D
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. September 2017 17:44
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] reminders in outlook

 

Hi,

I have a few reminders that keep coming up in Outlook.

I’m using office 365.

It’s outlook 2016.

I can’t dismiss these reminders.

What can I do to fix this?

 

Thanks,

Jessica

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Nvda 2017.3, errorwave you do not hear

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,

I just upgraded this version into XP machine, I noticed that no longer feels the sound error when happens.
All other sounds work correctly.
What can I do?
Thanks

Cheers
Adriano


Re: nvda and web surfing

Gene
 

If it doesn't affect anythin you do, it's unlikely to be anything you have to worry about.  I think it is a warning that some sort of content, such as advertising, or Flash content, I'm not sure what, is either playing or wants to play. 
 
Gene
----- Origibnal Message -----

From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] nvda and web surfing

Running NVDA 2017-3 on a win 10 64 bit machine and mostly use Google
Chrome as my browser.

Many times on a variety of web pages soon after the web page has loaded
NVDA will say alert.  Don't know what this means nor how to deal with it
if any thing needs to be dealt with.





[DECtalk] Lyrebird TTS, a demo is finally here!

Josh Kennedy
 

hopefully we will someday be able to use our lyrebird created voices with NVDA?




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [DECtalk] Lyrebird TTS, a demo is finally here!
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 12:20:01 -0400
From: Jayson Smith <jaybird@...>
Reply-To: DECtalk <dectalk@...>
To: DECtalk Discussions <dectalk@...>


Hi all,


A few months ago, I heard about Lyrebird, a future project which would 
allow anyone to create a synthetic clone of their own voice. Last night 
I found out that it's finally here, in an early beta form. If you go to 
http://lyrebird.ai and create an account, you can then record a minimum 
of thirty sentences they specify, the more you record the better, and 
then create your digital voice. Then you can have it speak any text you 
choose. I've played with it, and while the quality isn't the best, it 
does pretty accurately capture my voice, as well as most of the other 
people I know of who have created voices. Check it out!


Jayson


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Re: Can anyone suggest how to earn money easily from online using nvda

Antony Stone
 

How experienced are you with Python programming?


Antony.

On Wednesday 06 September 2017 at 00:59:42, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo wrote:

any jobs with nvACCESS? or nvda I want2make money with NVDA
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Re: Github

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Brian,
I'll probably be happy to consider putting up the conceptualized blog
post not on the NV Access website, but on the NVDA Community Wiki,
which is a place for these odd titbits of guides and tutorials
contributed by the community rather than being affiliated to the NV
Access organisation itself.
Thanks.

On 9/6/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I think if you feel it good enough putting it up on the NV access site would

also be a good move, as these questions about what to include and what not
to include seem to occur here quite a lot from time to time. I find the new

headings OK on the issues system but i tend to write my submissions offline

in notepad so most of the info is in the first field. I don't think this
should really matter as long as all the info is there.

At the moment I've not had time to report that loss of first letter issue in

Firefox on some web site links and text as it takes a significant amount of

time to test all the various situations that might cause such a thing. I'm

not convinced its not a bit of short cutting on web site design that has the

undesired effect. Brain

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github


Hi all,
I see that a lot of NVDA users seem interested in helping out with
testing NVDA, sharing feedback, reporting bugs, etc. As an active
triager on the NVDA Github issue tracker (along with some other NVDA
community members), we try to make sure that all tickets are
systematic and well-defined, so that developers have sufficient
diagnostic information or compelling use cases ensuring that the
accepted suggestions are easy better understood and consequently
simpler to implement. Therefore, I fortunately have notable experience
in the past month or so with the issue filing side of Github,
knowledge that I would definitely be interested in passing on. I am
considering writing a comprehensive multi-part guide about filing
issues about NVDA on the Github tracker and other less emphasized and
unmentioned essentials you may want to keep in mind while doing the
same in the form of a blog post on my personal blog (Hiking Across
Horizons - bhavyashah125.wordpress.com). Unfortunately, I will not be
able to get to this blog post idea till the 27th September at least
due to upcoming academic commitments, so please expect to hear from me
in this regard post that date, hopefully. Just thought I'd give a
heads-up.
Thanks.

On 9/6/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
It did not work in firefox either, I think short fragments of the log in
the

body are OK its other files that you really need to attach in case they
get

corrupted.
It seems to me that the browse, um does not browse ..!
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github


How odd. What shoudl happen si syou hit brows and the file dialogue
shoudl
appear, it does under safari. Try chrome maybe and see if that works and
or

firefox or edge?

Good luck.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
<cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:

Quentin,

Thanks for this excellent explanation!

I am being asked to attach the actual text file to a new issue rather
than

simply pasting in the contents of the log file, for instance . The
problem

is that I cannot get any option to attach a file when I clicked on the
“browse” button. It would be a great help if you could explain how to
attach a file using NVDA.

All the best,

Cearbhall

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 4:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github

As mentioned, if you want to create a ticket, submit an issue or
generally

report something that isn't working / could work better / should be
implemented etc, what you want to do is create a new issue. The link to
the issues section is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>

Unless you are writing code yourself, you can mostly ignore the other
sections (code, pull requests, projects, etc).

Ideally, it's worth jumping to the SECOND edit box on that page to
search

for the issue you want to report. (the first one searches code and
other

things, you want to search issues). So, if someone reported a problem
with footnotes in Word 2016 for instance, I'd search for "word 2016
footnotes" or similar in that second edit box. There are two types of
issues, open and closed. Open issues are either new issues that haven't
been triaged yet (that is, no one has looked at them to see how serious
they are, whether the issue has already been reported etc), or issues
which are being worked on, or waiting to be worked on. Closed issues
are

issues which have either been fixed, or which are duplicates of other
issues, or sometimes things which can't or won't be fixed. If the
problem

with footnotes is that you want them to appear at the top of the page
for

instance, then that isn't something related to NVDA. That's a feature
request for Word itself and you'd need to submit that to Microsoft.

To create a new issue, there is a "new issue" button, you can jump
straight there with https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new>

When you create a new issue, there is a block of text in the "comment"
prompting you for the kinds of information that are useful in diagnosing
the issue. Please try and include: steps to reproduce the issue, attach
any files which might help (eg if Word crashes every time you try and
check formatting in this particular file, if you can share it, that
would

help), what should happen and what actually happens, and your system
configuration (Windows version, application version, NVDA version and
whether installed or portable), and anything you've done to try and
resolve or get more information (eg tried different version of NVDA or
other program). Don't stress if you don't have every piece of that
information or if you aren't sure if the issue has been filed before.
When someone goes to triage the issue, they will ask for more
information

if needed. If the issue has been filed previously, they will link to it
(and likely close the duplicate issue you created).

If you do have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com
<mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good point sir. Ive seen Get Hub's pages in the past and its confusing
as

heck.


On 9/3/2017 7:34 AM, Gene wrote:
I just looked at the Github NVDA part of the site. I haven't signed up
yet but it looks easy to do so and to create a pull request, which I
assume is what is generally referred to on this list as a ticket. But
many people may find the page confusing. Is there a way that some sort
of

short help information can be inserted after the navigation links on the
page, instructing people what to do to create what are called tickets,
perhaps also how to search for tickets and how to create an account? If
tickets are desired from the widest variety of users, this process
should

be somehow explained and done so in a place that those wishing to create
tickets will be likely to see the explanation.

Gene




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Re: nvdaremote

Jonathan Milam
 

Back up!

 

Thanks!

Jonathan

 

From: Jonathan Milam [mailto:milamj@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 6:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: RE: [nvda] nvdaremote

 

It looks like it.  Does anyone have an update on this one?  I rely on NVDARemote for my job.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of mattias
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 5:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvdaremote

 

Are the nvdaremote server down?

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 


Re: nvdaremote

Antony Stone
 

Access to the code, at least (which I don't think has ever been done in the
same way that access to the client has been made available).

Whether this was for security reasons (ie: there's stuff in the code which the
developers don't peopel to find out about), or just licensing problems (ie: the
copyright is with someone who won't allow it to be publicly distributed) I
don't know.


Antony.

On Wednesday 06 September 2017 at 17:52:52, Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io wrote:

What would be required to set one up?
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 10:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] nvdaremote


Are the nvdaremote server down?
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nvda and web surfing

Don H
 

Running NVDA 2017-3 on a win 10 64 bit machine and mostly use Google Chrome as my browser.

Many times on a variety of web pages soon after the web page has loaded NVDA will say alert.  Don't know what this means nor how to deal with it if any thing needs to be dealt with.


Re: nvdaremote

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What would be required to set one up?
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Re: Github

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I think if you feel it good enough putting it up on the NV access site would also be a good move, as these questions about what to include and what not to include seem to occur here quite a lot from time to time. I find the new headings OK on the issues system but i tend to write my submissions offline in notepad so most of the info is in the first field. I don't think this should really matter as long as all the info is there.

At the moment I've not had time to report that loss of first letter issue in Firefox on some web site links and text as it takes a significant amount of time to test all the various situations that might cause such a thing. I'm not convinced its not a bit of short cutting on web site design that has the undesired effect. Brain

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Hi all,
I see that a lot of NVDA users seem interested in helping out with
testing NVDA, sharing feedback, reporting bugs, etc. As an active
triager on the NVDA Github issue tracker (along with some other NVDA
community members), we try to make sure that all tickets are
systematic and well-defined, so that developers have sufficient
diagnostic information or compelling use cases ensuring that the
accepted suggestions are easy better understood and consequently
simpler to implement. Therefore, I fortunately have notable experience
in the past month or so with the issue filing side of Github,
knowledge that I would definitely be interested in passing on. I am
considering writing a comprehensive multi-part guide about filing
issues about NVDA on the Github tracker and other less emphasized and
unmentioned essentials you may want to keep in mind while doing the
same in the form of a blog post on my personal blog (Hiking Across
Horizons - bhavyashah125.wordpress.com). Unfortunately, I will not be
able to get to this blog post idea till the 27th September at least
due to upcoming academic commitments, so please expect to hear from me
in this regard post that date, hopefully. Just thought I'd give a
heads-up.
Thanks.

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It did not work in firefox either, I think short fragments of the log in the

body are OK its other files that you really need to attach in case they get

corrupted.
It seems to me that the browse, um does not browse ..!
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Github


How odd. What shoudl happen si syou hit brows and the file dialogue shoudl
appear, it does under safari. Try chrome maybe and see if that works and or

firefox or edge?

Good luck.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra
<cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:

Quentin,

Thanks for this excellent explanation!

I am being asked to attach the actual text file to a new issue rather than

simply pasting in the contents of the log file, for instance . The problem

is that I cannot get any option to attach a file when I clicked on the
“browse” button. It would be a great help if you could explain how to
attach a file using NVDA.

All the best,

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[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] On Behalf Of
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Github

As mentioned, if you want to create a ticket, submit an issue or generally

report something that isn't working / could work better / should be
implemented etc, what you want to do is create a new issue. The link to
the issues section is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues>

Unless you are writing code yourself, you can mostly ignore the other
sections (code, pull requests, projects, etc).

Ideally, it's worth jumping to the SECOND edit box on that page to search

for the issue you want to report. (the first one searches code and other

things, you want to search issues). So, if someone reported a problem
with footnotes in Word 2016 for instance, I'd search for "word 2016
footnotes" or similar in that second edit box. There are two types of
issues, open and closed. Open issues are either new issues that haven't
been triaged yet (that is, no one has looked at them to see how serious
they are, whether the issue has already been reported etc), or issues
which are being worked on, or waiting to be worked on. Closed issues are

issues which have either been fixed, or which are duplicates of other
issues, or sometimes things which can't or won't be fixed. If the problem

with footnotes is that you want them to appear at the top of the page for

instance, then that isn't something related to NVDA. That's a feature
request for Word itself and you'd need to submit that to Microsoft.

To create a new issue, there is a "new issue" button, you can jump
straight there with https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/new>

When you create a new issue, there is a block of text in the "comment"
prompting you for the kinds of information that are useful in diagnosing
the issue. Please try and include: steps to reproduce the issue, attach
any files which might help (eg if Word crashes every time you try and
check formatting in this particular file, if you can share it, that would

help), what should happen and what actually happens, and your system
configuration (Windows version, application version, NVDA version and
whether installed or portable), and anything you've done to try and
resolve or get more information (eg tried different version of NVDA or
other program). Don't stress if you don't have every piece of that
information or if you aren't sure if the issue has been filed before.
When someone goes to triage the issue, they will ask for more information

if needed. If the issue has been filed previously, they will link to it
(and likely close the duplicate issue you created).

If you do have any more questions, please feel free to ask.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com
<mailto:linomorales001@gmail.com>> wrote:
Good point sir. Ive seen Get Hub's pages in the past and its confusing as

heck.


On 9/3/2017 7:34 AM, Gene wrote:
I just looked at the Github NVDA part of the site. I haven't signed up
yet but it looks easy to do so and to create a pull request, which I
assume is what is generally referred to on this list as a ticket. But
many people may find the page confusing. Is there a way that some sort of

short help information can be inserted after the navigation links on the
page, instructing people what to do to create what are called tickets,
perhaps also how to search for tickets and how to create an account? If
tickets are desired from the widest variety of users, this process should

be somehow explained and done so in a place that those wishing to create
tickets will be likely to see the explanation.

Gene




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Re: Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop

Lino Morales
 

Well nobody is a major geek likeyou  sir. I don't F with the regedit cause I simply don't know what I'm doing and to be honist C Cleaner scars me. Glad I don't use it anymore. I don't want to do something stupid and fix it on my own. Sighted help is 0 at my house.

On 9/6/2017 4:15 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It does not matter even if you move it to 0, it still annoys you from time to time, hence my comment about the illogical nature of not allowing the message text to be read from a non installed program. After all we are not changing it or hacking the system we just need to know what is going on.

For windows 7 I know there is a registry hack, but never tried it in win 10, besides, you can find the control with a search of control panel.
Brian


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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop


What is UAC and how do I change the level of the settings.
Thanks,

Akbar


On 9/6/17, Chris Wright via Groups.Io <blindgamer87=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
If I remember correctly, portable and temporary copies of NVDA are unable to
interact with UAC. When you hear the UAC sound, press Alt+Y. This should
allow the installation to continue. Alternatively, you could set the UAC
notification level to 0 which prevents the prompt from appearing and allows
the software to run normally.
On Sep 5, 2017, at 11:52 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com>
wrote:

Must been the UAC. It should have read it.


On 9/5/2017 11:22 AM, Akbar S. Currim wrote:
You are brilliant.  Being unable to install even from a portable copy
I asked my sighted son to take a look at it. Apparently a window was
opening which was completely inaccessible which was asking to confirm
to allow to install the programme which I was not aware of.  When he
(my son) clicked to allow it and then the installation went through
without a hitch.

Thanks to all and sorry for the bother.

Akbar


On 9/2/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
It could just be that something like an anti virus has updated since the
old

install and also it could be that new code in the latest nvda is only
now
falling foul of malware filtering. Normally such programs would tell
you
though, unless its  a message which is inaccessible of course.

It would really need a sighted person with hands on the machine to solve
it

I think. Its going to be something really annoyingly simple I'm sure.
 Brian

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Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop


hello.
did you try nvda without eloquence?
by default, it only has espeak and i dont think that the problem
relates to eloquence.

also, system requirements for nvda 17.2 and 17.3 are the same.


On 9/1/17, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@gmail.com> wrote:
The Eloquence which I have is quite recent and it is also installed
on
my second laptop on which I had no problem updating.  The "alt-tab"
method has tried by me several times and makes no difference.
Besides, when the updated version of NVDA finishes downloading it
automatically says that the download is complete and it will now
update the existing version of NVDA.  with the negative result
already
explained So I think I will just go ahead and make a portable version
from my proper working NVDA from my second laptop and install it from
there.  I have not had any time as yet to do that but maybe I will
get
down to doing it over the weekend.
Thanks,
Akbar



On 9/1/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I said entity because I have no idea who owns it now.  It's probably
a
company but since I didn't know, I said entity.

Gene


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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop


Well entity?
 It sounds exactly like it even to the lisp!
 I got mine on an old cd called Home Page reader by IBM it was a
freebie.
Goes back a very long way!

Brian

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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop


Via Voice isn't Eloquence.  it is similar in sound and performance,
but
it
isn't the same program and isn't owned by the same entity.

Gene
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I've not noticed this on any of the legal Eloquence drivers, even
the
old
sapi 4 one called via voice. I agree that old hacked one was rubbish
but
anyone using that still would probably have no hair left by now.
smiley.
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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to Install NVDA 17.3 on HP laptop


hi.
this may be caused by an old version of elequence.
before you update switch to espeak then upgrade and then switch
back.
also do a restart of your laptop.
i dont mean shutdown and restart.
i mean a full restart.

On 8/31/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Hmmm did you try to alt tab a few times.

Sometimes I get a uac prompt, usually it pops up but if I for
example
have more than a couple windows open then it may be hidden.

The trick is to know how long something should take to download
and
if
you heard the completed sound or think it should be well should
be,
then
you need to alt tab.

On the other hand, the other way you can handle this is download
the
main exe file, close everything window wise and run that.



On 31/08/2017 6:39 p.m., Akbar S. Currim wrote:
I retried the update with the same result and installation
failed.
The update downloaded fine and then stated that my existing copy
would
be updated and asked me to click OK which I did.  After that I
keep
getting a message saying "please wait-your existing copy of NVDA
is
being updated" and this goes on repeating with simultaneous beeps
indefinitely untill finally it says that the update installation
failed.  How do I get over this problem? Should I remove the
existing
copy of NVDA and install a fresh copy from scratch?

Alternatively, is it possible to make a portable copy from my
other
laptop which has a proper working version and try to reinstall
from
that?  In that case if it is possible, then I would be spared
from
reconfiguring NVDA all over again to suit my needs.
Thanks,
Akbar


On 8/29/17, Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@gmail.com> wrote:
I got no such notification on either of the laptops. Anyway I
will
try your suggestion tomorrow as I am travelling now.  Will get
back
to
you after that with the result.

Thanks,

Akbar

On 8/29/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
When you go to install a program, Windows pops up a dialog
advising
that
you are about to change the system and you need to accept that
before
you
can install the program.  Sometimes this dialog appears behind
other
windows.  In that case, you may need to alt+tab to it if it
doesn't
seem
to
appear.

That is usually the reason for this kind of problem.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Akbar S. Currim
<raahzam@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,

I tried to install NVDA17.3 on my HP laptop and although I
could
download the new version without any difficulty and also after
clicking to install it when I got the message to do so the
configuring
progress went on and on for at least 20 minutes and after that
I
got
an error message saying that the installation failed.  I tried
the
same thing three times with the same result.  Could someone
please
enlighten me as to what is happening and how I could remedy
the
same.

Incidentally I had no problem updating NVDA on my second
laptop
which
is an Asus.  Both laptops are running Win 10 duly updated to
the
latest version.  On the second laptop the installation took
only
a
few
minutes and there was no problem at all.

I give below the log I received for the installation failure.
Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Akbar

Log for failure:
INFO - __main__ (10:41:42.874):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.140):
Config dir: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:41:43.140):
Loading config: C:\Users\Akbar\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
NVDA version 2017.3
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using Windows version 10.0.15063 workstation
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using Python version 2.7.13 (v2.7.13:a06454b1afa1, Dec 17
2016,
20:42:59) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.154):
Using comtypes version 0.6.2
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:41:43.940):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (10:41:43.940):
Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:41:43.940):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (10:41:43.940):
Using liblouis version 3.2.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:41:43.940):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0
cells.
WARNING - core.main (10:41:43.994):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:41:43.994):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3
INFO - core.main (10:41:45.861):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.197):
Failed to execute installer
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "gui\installerGui.pyo", line 32, in doInstall
   File "config\__init__.pyo", line 182, in execElevated
   File "shellapi.pyo", line 42, in ShellExecuteEx
WindowsError: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled by the
user.
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (11:26:41.198):
Installation failed: [Error 1223] The operation was canceled
by
the
user.



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Hmm, well I actually tweaked the sounds so a slightly hard of hearing friend could hear them again, mainly focus mode and browse mode, and lengthened te short rising and falling tones as being tone deaf at first I could not tell the difference between them.

They were too short!
Inccidentally since 2017.3 came out all the xp machines when they close down now play the exit sound twice
It started a while ago in a snapshot, but nefver really noticed it before. Not that it really matters and 7 seems to still be OK.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New NVDA sounds


Mostly just to back up what others have said and give a bit more
background. Initially, the idea was simply to "refresh" the sounds, much
like we have also done with the logo in 2017.3. It wasn't that nobody
liked them, but it was really split - there were people who preferred the
old sounds, some who liked the new sounds, and some who wanted to change
the sounds, but didn't like the new ones either. We hadn't considered that
until the feedback started coming in from the snapshot users. We realised
then that what we needed to implement, more than just a new set of sounds
on its own, was a way for people to be able to change their own sounds.
One idea for this is along the lines of the way you can install add-ons.
Ideally, unlike add-ons, we want something that will be a bit easier for
users to package without needing programming skills.

Because of the divided feedback, we decided the best option (since it
hadn't yet rolled out to the majority of users), was to pull the new sounds
while we work on this new sound "theme" feature.

So, that's where it's at currently, and I believe someone else has provided
instructions in this thread for your question. Note that if you do that,
keep a backup of the sounds as they may get overridden when you update
NVDA, and they'll be easier to swap back if you've got the files handy.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <
clgilland07@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys,

I was running, a while back a snapshot of NVDA 2017.3, and noticed that
the NVDA sounds for things like startup, quitting, etc. were different than
what they have been for the longest time.

Now, with the official release of 2017.3, I'm not seeing this.

Can someone advise me on how to go about getting those other sounds? I
liked them much better.

Chris.
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