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Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized voice pack cost

 

hi gene.
is the way that i send my emails correct?
do i send my emails in the correct way that all people can see?
thanks for your reply.
God bless you!

On 10/2/17, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:
Not you by the way, Windows 98 machines. Such discussions are a bit moot
now, you can’t compare features like that from a Windows 98 machine, to
Windows 10.



All the best



Steve



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve
Nutt
Sent: 02 October 2017 16:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized
voice pack cost



Blimey, talk about dinosaurs. <Smile>.



All the best



Steve



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 02 October 2017 05:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized
voice pack cost



I may have been running the feature on a really old Windows 98 machine at
the time so my results may not be relevant. But I hope an interesting
discussion results.



Gene



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Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 11:22 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized
voice pack cost



Interesting to know. I would wonder if the lag is still there in this age of
speedier processors, etc. I don't know if it would be worth the trade-off if
it would slow things down too much for on-the-fly filtering.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 8:40 PM

Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized
voice pack cost



That is a useful feature if someone's program uses greater than signs for
quoted material. I don't know how many programs don't use such signs.
Windows Live Mail doesn't and I wonder if Outlook does. If neither of these
programs use such signs, then a good deal of the usefulness of the feature
is defeated. Also, I played with the feature many years ago. I don't
recall if this might have been because I was using a very slow old computer
at the time or not, but my recollection is that it moved through lines
slowly, and thus caused annoying delays while waiting for the unfiltered
material to be found.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Kwork <mailto:istherelife@gmail.com>

Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 12:46 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized
voice pack cost



For me, it's simple. If there are greater than signs at the top of a
message, or some sort of header indicating that the originally quoted
message is first, I've already lost interest in what the reply is, so I've
already deleted and moved on. If I only got a few emails a day, and/or it
was on a group I would be a moderator of, that would be different. I agree
that a feature like this would be good for NVDA. I never knew WinEyes had
such a feature, and I've never heard of any JFW users talking about it, so
doubt it's there for them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@comproom.co.uk <mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk> >
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2017 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized
voice pack cost


Hi Sean,

Window-Eyes has a great feature called Line Filter. You can tell it to
ignore all lines with a string of chars at the beginning of the line. So
when anyone bottom posts, I just switch on line filtering and it ignores
lines beginning with the greater than sign.

I don't know if JAWS has it, but it would be nice to have it in NVDA too.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun
Everiss
Sent: 28 September 2017 21:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and vocalized
voice pack cost

Well I really do wander if they find it easier to bottem post.

Its not blind vs sighted as such its probably the way they like their
screens.

For example I have family which really like their threaded messages
threaded.

They like to see the old messages first so they know what they have sent and

they can't remember what they typed previously.

For us, I guess that would work, except we can't scroll to the start of the

new content as such like this because our software just won't do it in a
easy way.

For the sighted its a quick mouse wheel flip my family do it all the time,
they do it without thinking just like breathing.

For us, we rely on our keyboards and screen readers, and to be honest I
never look at what is below if I don't need to which could be a
disadvantage.

We also have to get used to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signs the lower
and lower down we get down the message tree.

So for us top posting is the most accessible.

However we probably do lose some info over what was before.

I can't say I have responded to a message without reading below first.

I never do so I loose things.

For me I respond to something if I know what it is or if its 1-2 days old
maybe but I could be out of thread by the time I respond to a huge email
list.

A lot of techs I know thread and folder cluster their mail.

A few friends don't do this, for myself coming from dos, I read and delete
all my mail.

If its important I save it in a text file with the message in it and
whatever.

If the email database corrupts or the system crashes or something I reformat

and move on.

My data is mostly backed up, it includes text of important files and the
like.

I realise I will get bit in the ass one day but I barely have to deal with
important stuf and now with dropbox it means I can continue as I am till the

world ends.

On the other hand, rarely have I needed the net during a system outage that

is critical.

Or at a critical point.

But I guess I am lucky.

Being a freelance tester means I just don't get the work I usually get and
that means I have time to waste if I so choose which wouldn't be if I had to

bother with critical data all the time.




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Their loss.
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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and
vocalized voice pack cost


Nah, I think it's more related to vi vs. sighted. On all vi lists,
top posting is the thing, on most sighted lists, bottom posting is
it. I've seen folks yelled at multiple times for not bottom posting
on several sighted lists. But on at least one list I'm on,
(thankfully, one I don't post on very often), folks get all bent out
of shape if you top post. It's bottom post, or not at all in their
opinion. A complete waste of time in my opinion, but nobody asked me.

<shrug>



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I think the problem is, in them older days most lists and Usenet
groups wanted you to bottom post, but that was when people sat down
and edited the quilted threads. There was an RFC about it, but
nowadays, things have gone the other way since most people are low
on time.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com
<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com> >
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and
vocalized voice pack cost


Please don’t bottom post. Post at the top of the messages. If you
bottom post, people won’t see your reply. They won’t wade through
five or more messages to finally find yours and many people think
you mistakenly sent a blank message.

If you need help in how to top post, ask here.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Amber Gilmore
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and
vocalized voice pack cost



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 27, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk
<mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk> > wrote:

Hi Amber,

Here you go:-

http://www.comproom.co.uk/product/eloquence-and-vocalizer-expressiv
e-add-on-for-nvda/


By the way, for every copy sold, 10 Euros which is about 8 UK
pounds, or about 15 US dollars, gets donated to NVAccess. Which is
why I'm proud to sell it.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Amber Gilmore
Sent: 27 September 2017 14:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and
vocalized voice pack cost

This is to Steve how much are you asking for your nvda and
elouenqecincd elinquence i am in oklahoma he please get back to me,
amber

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2017, at 4:33 AM, Steve Nutt <steve@comproom.co.uk
<mailto:steve@comproom.co.uk> > wrote:

Hi Jim,

Yes there is a legal add on from Code Factory that comes with both
Eloquence and Vocalizer. Disclaimer: We do sell it. Please feel
free to contact me privately if interested.

We also have SAPI 5 voices for both, again, both perfectly legal.

Thanks.

All the best

Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of The Gamages
Sent: 20 September 2017 08:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and
vocalized voice pack cost

Hello,

Forgive me if I have misunderstood, but surely there cannot be a
genuine NVDA add on for the voices which I wil not mention as they
are a banned topic? Code factory Vocaliser may be legal, but not
the other, I had to pay for my Vocaliser voices and they cost me
about "£70 years ago, these are now available as a stand alone
item and not tied to NVDA.
For those who just cannot afford extra voices, the Microsoft ones
are quite good and are, of course, free with the Microsoft system.

As to the illegal subject, why anyone would want these outdated
voices beats me.
Take care.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 8:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and
vocalized voice pack cost

Hi,
As the owner of the NVDA add-ons list, I'm considering enacting
address ban if I hear reports of the moderated person jumping over
to the add-ons list to vent frustrations.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Laz
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: Admin: Re: [nvda] How much does the eloquence and
vocalized voice pack cost

As I stated in an email a few weeks ago when this person started
posting on the list, he will continue posting nonsensical
messages, off topic messages, and violate list rules until he is
removed. He apparently doesn't pay much attentionn to messages in
reply to his questions and will continue repeating things over and
over until stopped. Moderation is the least of possible solutions
to this situation.

Good luck Nimer and Gene!

Laz

On 9/19/17, mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
<ochikodinaka@gmail.com <mailto:ochikodinaka@gmail.com> > wrote:
when is the next update for NVDA

On 9/19/17, Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@gmail.com
<mailto:nimerjaber1@gmail.com> > wrote:
I will just reiterate that Gene has my full and unqualified
support in this matter and I will be keeping an eye for any
future messages from this individual.

Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 1:17 PM Gene <gsasner@ripco.com
<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com> > wrote:

From the moderator:

I don't know why he is doing it and we have no basis to assume
anything.
I doubt it is intentional rudeness. I would say that people
should simply not comment on any post by Mr. Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum Oguledo unless he asks a new and useful question.
Repetitive questions, the same question four times in a month
or even twice in a month or six months, should simply be
ignored.

It is not useful to have a debate on list about Chikodinaka
Nickarandidum Oguledo or his posts. If such unproductive
debates continue, I shall lock all threads where such debates
begin.

If Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo is too outrageous, I
shall moderate him. Moderation means that I shall see every
post from him and have to approve each post before it reaches
the list. If I do that, I shall simply not approve repetitive
questions nor questions that in any way, promote sites where
illegal activity occurs. .

I'm explaining all this because Mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum
Oguledo sent a post yesterday in which he seemed to indicate
that he didn't know what being moderated means and because
there may be other list members who don't know.

I am not the list owner and if he wishes to deal with this
matter differently, that is what he will do as list owner. I've
stated what I will do unless the owner wishes something
different to be done.

Also, on further consideration, I've changed my mind about how
long moderation will last. It will last at least two months and
whether it is lifted will depend on the kinds of posts Mr.
Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo sends for approval.


Gene

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It gives diffferent prides can you tell me whitch on is my prise,
amber and i did a trial on another site with the same voices
frommmm code factory will the link you sent me let me do it again
cause when i started the trial befor my computer crashed and it was
down so i missed it. Thanks, amber























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Re: amazing promptness of responses from this list

 

hello.
i am proud to help other and also my religion encourages the followers
to be kind toward others, helpful for them and respect them.

On 10/3/17, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@gmail.com> wrote:
I am just writing to express my amazement at how fast subscribers to this
list get responses. That does not happen on any of the other around 15
lists I have a subscription with. It shows how genuinely the developers
and
everyday users of NVDA want anyone using the program to be successful.
Thanks very much again.

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Re: toggle object name and type

 

hi martin.
also I would like to have nvda speak the object type after the object
label name) like you.
this work for some objects not for all.
for example: if i press b nvda says send button thats desirable behaviour.
but i press x nvda says checkbox first and secondly announces the
content of checkbox.
hope that developers make it possible for all objects.
hope that help, God bless you!

On 10/3/17, Martin Thomas Swaton <list@mtsonline.at> wrote:
Hi gene,


thank you for your quick answer.

If this is not possible right now, I hope that could be done with a
small change or addon...

Should not be more than replacing one line of code hopefully, where is
defined what to speak first.


are there some developers on this list that could code such a small
plugin, htat allows to switch the items when being spoken?

Or is there another list, where I should / could ask for help?


Hope someone also would like to hear the more important information of
objects first, like I do and can impliment that, as it defenitely would
take longer to work that out on my own. :-)


best wishes,

martin




Am 02.10.2017 um 18:32 schrieb Gene:
As far as I know, the behavior can't be changed.
Gene

*From:* Martin Thomas Swaton <mailto:list@mtsonline.at>
*Sent:* Monday, October 02, 2017 10:13 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] toggle object name and type

Hi everybody,


after searching the net and browsing the addons, I still could not find
a solution...

I would like to have nvda speak the object type after the object label
name) how would I do that?


e.g. when browsing a webpage there are buttons and links spoken as:

button welcome

link home


I would like to hear:

welcome button

home link


and so on.


Hope someone can help me to get this done.


cheers

Martin




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Re: Prevent system sleep/standby while NVDA is reading something

 

hi.
your friend can set preventing sleep in power options.
also you can search only sleep and standby and see the result if the
request is reported before.
God bless you!

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Now the first person to come up with a use for the waste heat from a laptop

will be very rich. I did think of a cup warmer, but then its not to be
encouraged, drinking hot beverages near computer keyboards, is it?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2017 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Prevent system sleep/standby while NVDA is reading
something


To be honest when I am setting a system up, I turn sleep and hybernation
off only shutdown on.

I have it so it will shut down when I hit the button and only that.

I have had hybernate active on a system but only because the usr closed
the lid and left it running till its battery died last week but I really
don't care for things powering off.

similarl/y I don't ever allow processers and all those saving features
to remain set for so call savings mode I know I use power faster but if
I need the power I need it./

/One thing that does change it is if I need it on my lap, I do then dumb
down the cpu a lot, my lap is not a hot cake./

//



On 3/10/2017 8:17 a.m., Kostadin Kolev wrote:
Hello all,

A friend of mine noticed that if he reads a long article via "say all"
and his
system is set to go to "sleep", the system will go to "sleep", even if
NVDA
hasn't finished reading at that time. Shouldn't NVDA (at least
optionally)
prevent system standby/sleep function while it is reading something? I
thought
that there was a ticket in the NVDA issue tracker about this, but
apparently
there isn't, because my searches for "prevent sleep" and "prevent
standby" did
not return as a result such a ticket.

Any thoughts?

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev





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Re: Using skype app on Windows 10 with NVDA, any tips?

 

my name is zahra.
thanks for informing me about this.
i did not know that skype for business and skype for windows ten are
separate programs.
sorry if my comment could not help you.

On 10/4/17, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:
Thanks! Speakers and microphone are good to know at least, as I have
multiple sound devices. I suspect I'll end up going back to desktop, but
thought I'd try it since NVDA is working with it and they actually put
all the features in, finally. It used to be that you couldn't send
files, among quite a few other things, from the Windows app version.

Oh in case one of the other people who replied to me is reading this,
sorry I can't remember your name, I think skype for business is part of
Microsoft Office/Office 365. I think it's focused on more group stuff,
because I think my wife's work is considering using it in place of
whatever meeting/teleconferencing software they currently have. That's
about what I know though. This is just the skype app that comes with
Windows 10.



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Re: windows 10 ocr?

Mallard
 

Wow, thanks Florian! I wasn't aware of this feature.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 04/10/2017 07:00, Florian Ionașcu ha scritto:

Hello Matias!

This is a setting for changing the language. Go in NVDA menu, Preferences, Windows 10 OCR and press enter. A dialog with a combo box and a button will be displayed. The combo box lets you choose the language you want for OCR, for example Danish. Choose it and press OK. To extract a text from a picture, press Windows+R.
If you still have questions, please ask.
Cheers,
Florian

Trimis din Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> pentru Windows 10

*De la: *mattias <mailto:mjonsson1986@gmail.com>
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*Subiect: *[nvda] windows 10 ocr?

I see a menu value in NVDA settings menu

Windows 10 ocr

? how to use?

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Re: bug in browsemode

 

hello martin i completely agree with you i also love to hear all of
the content of one object not only the first line.

i also agree with you in your sentences

if this is nothing everyone sees this way and wants to have to be able
to read more comfortable, why not add a checkbox in the settings:
"read whole object when jumped to"
then everybody could decide to hear only the first line, as it works
now, or the whole textblock/list/...

i tried n twice and nvda only says blank in the messages which i
recieve in my gmail.
i cant understand the reason for my problem.

God bless you.

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Is this the new 64 bit version of Firefox by any chance?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Thomas Swaton" <list@mtsonline.at>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2017 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] bug in browsemode


Hi once more


no I found out that there not even have to be special characters in the
non-linked-textblock and nvda still does ignore/skip some blocks.


currently I had a conversation that looked like that:


link name1

textline1

Just now
link name2

haha
Just nowSent from Web
link name1

textline2


where textline 1 and 2 are read by pressing "n" and the "haha" block is
simply ignored allthough it is placed between two link lines.

I think this is not as expected.

cheers
Martin

Am 03.10.2017 um 00:19 schrieb Martin Thomas Swaton:



Am 03.10.2017 um 00:04 schrieb Quentin Christensen:
Just to clarify, is it treating the smiley emoticon as a graphc (and
therefore the text before is one nonlinked text element, then the
graphic element, then another nonlinked text element)?
no, it really is just text.
but I am not sure how consistent this behaves.

had the same with "hm..."
but only further down in the thread, when it got up in the thread it
was recognized as text (non linked)

so there might be a second trigger, that I could not figure out until
now.

so fact is, if there are some special characters (not grafical items,
just text) it may be handled as something else than "not linked text".


cheers
Martin


On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 7:14 AM, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com
<mailto:gsasner@ripco.com>> wrote:

Also, n should not do two separate things, as you are asking.
How does n know what you want? You often intentionally want to
use n to skip to the next block of nonlink text if you don't want
to hear the block you have used the command to skip to. You can
make a case that, if you have already started speak all, that n
should skip to the next nonlink text and resume reading. But
having n skip to the next nonlink text and then, when pressed
again, read that entire block, is a very bad idea. N does one
thing and should do one thing, skip to the next nonlink text.
Whether continuous reading occurs after you skip may be offered
as the behavior when speak all has been executed before using n.
Gene
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*Sent:* Monday, October 02, 2017 2:27 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] bug in browsemode

Hi,


I guess I discovered a bug in the behaviour of nvda in the
browsemode.

using the shortcut "n" to jump to the next unlinked text on a
website
does not work correctly when there are special characters in a
text line.


steps to reproduce:

e.g. go to m.facebook website -> messages -> friend-name

to open a thread.


in this thread you can jump to the text you and your friend wrote


if you type "*smile*"

or similar on a line

this line will be ignored by "n" and you will jump directly to
the next
"normal" textline.


This should absolutely not be the case, as you miss normal text
because
of this bug.


a second problem with "n" is, that not the whole text block is
read on
this keypress - but the next "n" press jumps to the next block of
text
and does not read the rest of the current block

because of this second block you always only hear the first line
of a
textblock when using "n"

so you cannot read a text with this shortcut, you only get the dirst
line of every block and then have to use other reading shortcuts
to read
on, which does not make any sense.


hope this two bugs can be confirmed and hopefully be fixed


cheers

Martin








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Re: Using skype app on Windows 10 with NVDA, any tips?

John Isige
 

Thanks! Speakers and microphone are good to know at least, as I have multiple sound devices. I suspect I'll end up going back to desktop, but thought I'd try it since NVDA is working with it and they actually put all the features in, finally. It used to be that you couldn't send files, among quite a few other things, from the Windows app version.

Oh in case one of the other people who replied to me is reading this, sorry I can't remember your name, I think skype for business is part of Microsoft Office/Office 365. I think it's focused on more group stuff, because I think my wife's work is considering using it in place of whatever meeting/teleconferencing software they currently have. That's about what I know though. This is just the skype app that comes with Windows 10.


Re: Read to end of document not working in NVDA

 

hi.
nvda uses nvda+down arrow for sayAll in desktop and also nvda+a in
laptop keyboard layout.
for stopping speaking of nvda press control key.
to stop temporary use shift key and for resume again press shift key.
in this case, nvda continues reading from the last place that you
stopped reading.
nvda have support for SayAll for many programs except libreoffice and
openoffice that i know.
hope that help, God bless you.

On 10/4/17, chris miles <grrenfly@sky.com> wrote:
On 03/10/2017 01:18, Dan Thompson wrote:

HI All,

I use to be able to press one of the nvda keys along with down arrow
and text would be read from the cursor’s location to the end of the
document.  This stopped a few upgrades ago.  I thought it would come
back but has not yet.  I explored the menus but can’t find a setting
except unchecking “simple review mode” to try.  So I did uncheck the
box and nothing really changed.  Does any have any idea how to get the
read to end back?

Thanks very much in advance.

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To read to the end of a document:-

Press NVDA key and a

To stop reading:

Press control.

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Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

David Moore
 

Hi all!

I participated and said NVDA, because that is what I use most of the time.

Go NVDA, and thank you all. Two years ago, I hardly used NVDA, and now it is my screen reader of choice most of the time, and I use over 20 add ons to make NVDA my favorite screen reader. Thanks so much for all of your hard work, developers.

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 2:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

 

hello.

i agree that survey owners should include all operating systems and

screen readers.

but for me that only use nvda, i try to participate it today.

God bless you all!

 

On 10/4/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:

> Um duh Travis! Who in the hell useds Linux? Um not me. Its a given dude.

> Not a lot of blind folks are uber geeks like yourself. I've never used

> said OS and don't plan on it. Apple themselves put up a burier for teh

> cost of their damn product the iMacc. Do you think most of us have a

> thousand dollars laying around for a Mac with VO?

> On 10/2/2017 9:17 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

>> 

>> Once again, the survey continues to ignore screen readers for other

>> operating systems.  It's nice they actually mention more than one for

>> android, but each time I take this survey, I've commented that orca

>> and other linux screen readers should be included (or at least given

>> room to be typed in), and it never happens.  Of course, now they're

>> not even bothering to ask what screen readers you use, just the one

>> you use most often.  Most often (these days) I use NVDA, but I still

>> use voice over, (both on IOS, which they did cover, and on OSX), which

>> again, they did cover, but I also use speakup, orca, pispeak, and

>> (once in a great while) a dos screen reader.  None of these options

>> are even pretended at in this survey.  This survey has become a list

>> of the big three, and who uses the most of each one, and no mention or

>> care is given to additional resources.  If they're trying to find out

>> what screen readers folks are using altogether, (not just the big

>> three) then they need to redesign the survey to allow folks to at

>> least mention that they use other operating systems, even if it isn't

>> their primary one. Last time they offered this survey in 2015, I

>> couldn't fill it out, because I was using a raspberry pi as my main

>> system, and they didn't give me an option to indicate such anywhere on

>> the survey, only in the comments at the end, which is extremely poor

>> survey design.  I nice question with what screen readers do yo use

>> regularly (check all that apply) would have worked nicely, then have a

>> checkbox for other with a place to type in your other choice.  This

>> would seem fundamental to me, but these folks have gotten it wrong for

>> (apparently) 7 survey cycles. Apparently, they aren't studying what

>> screen readers are used in general, just how popular a select few of

>> them are, and that doesn't serve any purpose except to slant the

>> numbers in favor of those select few options.  I don't think I'll be

>> filling out this survey anymore.

>> 

>> 

>> On 9/29/2017 3:19 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

>>> Hello,

>>> Here is the link to one of the more important screen reader surveys.

>>> When people refference screen reader usage and tendencies, they often

>>> use the results of this survey.

>>> Please fill this out, it really helps developers.

>>> The questions are really easy and relevant.

>>> Thank you,

>>> 

>>> Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>

>>> 

>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------

>>> From: *Jared Smith* <jared@... <mailto:jared@...>>

>>> Date: Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:53 AM

>>> Subject: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

>>> To: WebAIM Discussion List <webaim-forum@...

>>> <mailto:webaim-forum@...>>

>>> 

>>> 

>>> https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/

>>> <https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/>

>>> 

>>> Please share this URL to any and all screen reader users.

>>> 

>>> Thanks,

>>> 

>>> Jared Smith

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Re: Using skype app on Windows 10 with NVDA, any tips?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi

I just had a look through the whole app and could not really see any thing for the sounds. I did see under the user profile section a link which was called settings where you could do your speakers camera and mic if you have them installed.
Only my speakers were hooked up so did not test the other 2 in the app but guess they would work.

it seems usable but have not tested it with any one as i use the desk top version of which there is a tutorial for on my website.

Apart from tabbing etc to get to the different parts of the app I would have to see if any of the old shortcuts would work but the old alt + 1 and alt + 2 ones do not. I do not think at present you can get to a section quickly with a shortcut but will look up.
I might have a bit of a play in the next day or so and maybe see what might come together .

Gene nz

 

On 10/4/2017 5:34 PM, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm not actually new to the list, I used to be on the old list as John Schucker, but I went and got married and changed my last name.


Anyway, my question is about using skype on Windows 10, naturally. Since I have a laptop, I uninstalled skype for desktop to try out the new skype, since NVDA with Win 10 app essentials reads it. I can do most things I think, but was wondering if anybody had any tips or answers to a few questions.


1. Does it start when Windows starts automatically? I see no setting.


2. Speaking of settings, are there settings, and if so, how do you access settings for the app?


3. How do you get notifications to stick around? I'm pretty sure I have mine set to display for 30 seconds, but when I get one, and I try to switch windows to see it, I see no other windows. I think I'd like them to stick around until I close them so that I can see if new messages have come in if I'm away from my computer. Or is there a better way to check that?


4. Skype doesn't minimize to the system tray when you minimize it, is there a way to make it do that? I don't feel like having a window open all the time just in case somebody sends me a message.


5. Does it not do sounds anymore? I hear no sound if I send a message, for example.


I think I had another question or two but I can't remember, and these seem more than enough to start with. Basically this is an experiment for me, so I'm curious to know if anybody's using the app version, I assume it's skype preview? Once I uninstalled "skype for desktop" I just had skype. I haven't tried calling anybody or adding people to calls or anything like that. So I'd be very interested in tips on switching from desktop to whatever's in Win 10, if anybody's done it.





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Re: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey

 

hello.
i agree that survey owners should include all operating systems and
screen readers.
but for me that only use nvda, i try to participate it today.
God bless you all!

On 10/4/17, Lino Morales <linomorales001@gmail.com> wrote:
Um duh Travis! Who in the hell useds Linux? Um not me. Its a given dude.
Not a lot of blind folks are uber geeks like yourself. I've never used
said OS and don't plan on it. Apple themselves put up a burier for teh
cost of their damn product the iMacc. Do you think most of us have a
thousand dollars laying around for a Mac with VO?


On 10/2/2017 9:17 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:

Once again, the survey continues to ignore screen readers for other
operating systems.  It's nice they actually mention more than one for
android, but each time I take this survey, I've commented that orca
and other linux screen readers should be included (or at least given
room to be typed in), and it never happens.  Of course, now they're
not even bothering to ask what screen readers you use, just the one
you use most often.  Most often (these days) I use NVDA, but I still
use voice over, (both on IOS, which they did cover, and on OSX), which
again, they did cover, but I also use speakup, orca, pispeak, and
(once in a great while) a dos screen reader.  None of these options
are even pretended at in this survey.  This survey has become a list
of the big three, and who uses the most of each one, and no mention or
care is given to additional resources.  If they're trying to find out
what screen readers folks are using altogether, (not just the big
three) then they need to redesign the survey to allow folks to at
least mention that they use other operating systems, even if it isn't
their primary one. Last time they offered this survey in 2015, I
couldn't fill it out, because I was using a raspberry pi as my main
system, and they didn't give me an option to indicate such anywhere on
the survey, only in the comments at the end, which is extremely poor
survey design.  I nice question with what screen readers do yo use
regularly (check all that apply) would have worked nicely, then have a
checkbox for other with a place to type in your other choice.  This
would seem fundamental to me, but these folks have gotten it wrong for
(apparently) 7 survey cycles. Apparently, they aren't studying what
screen readers are used in general, just how popular a select few of
them are, and that doesn't serve any purpose except to slant the
numbers in favor of those select few options.  I don't think I'll be
filling out this survey anymore.


On 9/29/2017 3:19 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Here is the link to one of the more important screen reader surveys.
When people refference screen reader usage and tendencies, they often
use the results of this survey.
Please fill this out, it really helps developers.
The questions are really easy and relevant.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>

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Date: Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 7:53 AM
Subject: [WebAIM] New WebAIM Screen Reader User Survey
To: WebAIM Discussion List <webaim-forum@list.webaim.org
<mailto:webaim-forum@list.webaim.org>>


https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey7/
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Re: Owner's Note: Jeff's Dream #adminnotice

 

Well in that case, the japanese game translater addon at blindaudiogames.com or at least its webpage should be linked.

You do need a free account for security, the author that makes it has to pay google to use the translation function but his hope is that  eventually entire games translations will be stored on his server.

On 4/10/2017 6:58 p.m., Nimer Jaber wrote:
Hello,

After exchanging some messages with other fellow moderators, I have
modified my stance on the Jeff's Dream website. I encourage users to look
for add-ons at the official add-on site first. If you are unable to find
it, you awe welcome to look for add-ons in other locations, and if you know
an add-on that would help a user and they are asking questions, you may
share that add-on with the community, even if it is on that site. What may
not be shared, however, is any illegal content, including the Eloquence
synthesizer or any other paid voice package if it was obtained illegally
without payment. So far as I am aware, and I am always learning, but there
is no legal way to share or obtain Eloquence for free through an add-on, so
any discussion of that will be stopped immediately, with members who share
illegal software receiving a very quick, very permanent ban with no
recourse of appeal. I would also urge users to pay attention to the source
from which they download add-ons, and be aware of any security
implications. Nobody on this list can or will be held responsible as a
result of downloading illegal content or content which contains security
threats.

If you have any further questions on this topic, please send your comments
and suggestions, as always, to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

thanks.


Re: NVDA Country Subgroups

 

hello i dont agree with local groups for many reasons.
if for example we only participate in our language subgroup farsi, we
miss the informations and knowledge which the people provide for
example in english group etc.
all people have only access to there local group in there own language
and miss other useful informations in other groups.
moreover, one group (our current group) is the best option, because:
1- we can benefit of knowledge and help of all people who use nvda in
the world, can find answer faster and easier.
2- english is an international language that most people can
understand and communicate with each other around the world.
3- the informations and help that we provide for each other, are
archived and anyone can access and benefit.
4- we can help more people and be useful for more people in the world
for two reasons. first the group which all people can join and help
each other,
and second the archive which can be useful for even the people who did
not join in the group, because they can search in the google and find
answer for there problems!
hope that help, God bless you all!

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Hello Vlad and Adriani.
I'm also Romanian, I live in Buzău.
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Owner's Note: Jeff's Dream #adminnotice

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

After exchanging some messages with other fellow moderators, I have modified my stance on the Jeff's Dream website. I encourage users to look for add-ons at the official add-on site first. If you are unable to find it, you awe welcome to look for add-ons in other locations, and if you know an add-on that would help a user and they are asking questions, you may share that add-on with the community, even if it is on that site. What may not be shared, however, is any illegal content, including the Eloquence synthesizer or any other paid voice package if it was obtained illegally without payment. So far as I am aware, and I am always learning, but there is no legal way to share or obtain Eloquence for free through an add-on, so any discussion of that will be stopped immediately, with members who share illegal software receiving a very quick, very permanent ban with no recourse of appeal.  I would also urge users to pay attention to the source from which they download add-ons, and be aware of any security implications. Nobody on this list can or will be held responsible as a result of downloading illegal content or content which contains security threats.

If you have any further questions on this topic, please send your comments and suggestions, as always, to nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

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Re: Using skype app on Windows 10 with NVDA, any tips?

 

hi.
do you mean skype for business?
if so, nvda 17.3 and later, have special support for skype for business.
i am not familiar with skype for business, but i read in whats new
about supporting of nvda for skype.

• NVDA now automatically reports notifications in Skype for Business
Desktop, such as when someone starts a conversation with you. (#7281)

• NVDA now automatically reports incoming chat messages while in a
Skype for Business conversation. (#7286)

hope that help, God bless you.

On 10/4/17, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:
Hi all. I'm not actually new to the list, I used to be on the old list
as John Schucker, but I went and got married and changed my last name.


Anyway, my question is about using skype on Windows 10, naturally. Since
I have a laptop, I uninstalled skype for desktop to try out the new
skype, since NVDA with Win 10 app essentials reads it. I can do most
things I think, but was wondering if anybody had any tips or answers to
a few questions.


1. Does it start when Windows starts automatically? I see no setting.


2. Speaking of settings, are there settings, and if so, how do you
access settings for the app?


3. How do you get notifications to stick around? I'm pretty sure I have
mine set to display for 30 seconds, but when I get one, and I try to
switch windows to see it, I see no other windows. I think I'd like them
to stick around until I close them so that I can see if new messages
have come in if I'm away from my computer. Or is there a better way to
check that?


4. Skype doesn't minimize to the system tray when you minimize it, is
there a way to make it do that? I don't feel like having a window open
all the time just in case somebody sends me a message.


5. Does it not do sounds anymore? I hear no sound if I send a message,
for example.


I think I had another question or two but I can't remember, and these
seem more than enough to start with. Basically this is an experiment for
me, so I'm curious to know if anybody's using the app version, I assume
it's skype preview? Once I uninstalled "skype for desktop" I just had
skype. I haven't tried calling anybody or adding people to calls or
anything like that. So I'd be very interested in tips on switching from
desktop to whatever's in Win 10, if anybody's done it.




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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA Country Subgroups

 

Hello Vlad and Adriani.
I'm also Romanian, I live in Buzău.


Re: Owner's Notes, Please Read Updated

 

hi nimer.
thanks so much for your great post.
i agree that we should respect each other, our comunity, etc.
i only love nvda, but i understand that i should do my best for
maintaining the reputation of my best program which i love very much
and is an extremely great revolution in my life!
i sincerely admire your work, pray for you every day and request
divine infinite blessings and mercy for you!

On 10/4/17, Armando Maldonado <armando.maldonado0767@gmail.com> wrote:
Yep I agree. I am slowly embracing NVDA and regardless of our preferences,
we shall be respectful towards one another. Nimer did hit it on the money,
as our messages we post reflects our image as a whole. Great post nimer!

Armando





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nimer
Jaber
Sent: Tuesday, October 3, 2017 6:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Owner's Notes, Please Read Updated



Sorry, I pressed send too early...



Hello everyone,
I come to you with a couple of things, and I hope you will read this in its
entirety. If you have any questions, please submit them to
nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda%2Bowner@nvda.groups.io> and I will
be happy to help you, as will Gene.
First, all of us, every single person, represents ourselves in each post we
choose to write publicly. We choose how we are portrayed, and the image we
want others to see. In that same light, if we choose to participate in a
community of members, we represent that community to the outside world,
particularly as all messages are viewable publicly and are archived fo,r all
to read at a time of their choosing. As members of the NVDA community, we
represent not only ourselves, but also NVAccess, and the blindness community
as a whole. Whether we choose to or not, this is how it is.
I write all of that to say that each message you write should be written
with care and attention to this fact. It is not acceptable to write messages
disparaging the VFO group or any other competitor by calling them by
offensive names, or in any way bashing other products or manufacturers.
Whether you or I or anyone else likes JAWS is irrelevant to this list, and
moreover writing about JAWS and calling it by names other than what it is
will not be permitted.
Second, the topic of this list is NVDA. We all are here to learn from one
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topic is NVDA, and talking about how good JAWS is or how bad it is does not
relate to NVDA. I have been pretty lenient in allowing some off-topic posts
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Please, show respect of each other, NVAccess, the wider NVDA community, the
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Re: windows 10 ocr?

 

Hello Matias!

This is a setting for changing the language. Go in NVDA menu, Preferences, Windows 10 OCR and press enter. A dialog with a combo box and a button will be displayed. The combo box lets you choose the language you want for OCR, for example Danish. Choose it and press OK. To extract a text from a picture, press Windows+R.
If you still have questions, please ask.
Cheers,
Florian

 

 

 

Trimis din Mail pentru Windows 10

 

De la: mattias
Trimis: marți, 3 octombrie 2017 20:29
Către: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subiect: [nvda] windows 10 ocr?

 

I see a menu value in NVDA settings menu

Windows 10 ocr

? how to use?

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 


Using skype app on Windows 10 with NVDA, any tips?

John Isige
 

Hi all. I'm not actually new to the list, I used to be on the old list as John Schucker, but I went and got married and changed my last name.


Anyway, my question is about using skype on Windows 10, naturally. Since I have a laptop, I uninstalled skype for desktop to try out the new skype, since NVDA with Win 10 app essentials reads it. I can do most things I think, but was wondering if anybody had any tips or answers to a few questions.


1. Does it start when Windows starts automatically? I see no setting.


2. Speaking of settings, are there settings, and if so, how do you access settings for the app?


3. How do you get notifications to stick around? I'm pretty sure I have mine set to display for 30 seconds, but when I get one, and I try to switch windows to see it, I see no other windows. I think I'd like them to stick around until I close them so that I can see if new messages have come in if I'm away from my computer. Or is there a better way to check that?


4. Skype doesn't minimize to the system tray when you minimize it, is there a way to make it do that? I don't feel like having a window open all the time just in case somebody sends me a message.


5. Does it not do sounds anymore? I hear no sound if I send a message, for example.


I think I had another question or two but I can't remember, and these seem more than enough to start with. Basically this is an experiment for me, so I'm curious to know if anybody's using the app version, I assume it's skype preview? Once I uninstalled "skype for desktop" I just had skype. I haven't tried calling anybody or adding people to calls or anything like that. So I'd be very interested in tips on switching from desktop to whatever's in Win 10, if anybody's done it.