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Learning Programming

Biblesoft 8288 <biblesoftech8288@...>
 

I am wanting to learn HTML5as well as a Compiled language.

I am looking for Books that takes the New to Programming person from the
very first Starting point, to at least a level to be able to maybe at
least understand what my Boss is attempting to do on her Web Site. I
am not thinking I am going to work through one Book and be a Crack HTML5
Code Demon.

So far, I have attempted to learn from On Line Tutorials, but these are
always a Video, which gives a lot of info, but ther is always something
the sighted can see, that I miss, and my code doesn't work.

I have downloaded code examples and have been able to see where I was
wrong, but not always.

I am sure some of you here might do some programming and have gone
through the junk of finding truly useful resources to learn what needs
to be learned.

My Boss would also like me to see if I could learn to write an Install
program for their software their Company produces.

I have to laugh, but this is the spot I find myself. AM not exactly a
Newby, and yet, I am.

So, anyone use any Books in a form I can read on the Computer?
If so, would you tell me the Titles and where you obtained them.

Thanks for any help,

Dave

Re: Using the physical mouse with NVDA on some inaccessible Internet controls

Gene
 

I used to know a site that had this problem.  The site has changed and now there isn't even an unuseable embedded object as far as I can tell.  There appear to be no accessible or inaccessible controls for listening visible to a screen-reader.  Does this link lead to a page where you can play something?  I doubt that exploring the page using NVDA and a physical mouse would show anything useful but here's the link if you want to experiment.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the physical mouse with NVDA on some inaccessible Internet controls

Gene,

         If you can toss me some specific examples of the flash issue you're describing I can play around with it to see what I can determine.
--
Brian

    I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I need to respect in any way.

        ~ Ellen Evans, soc.motss, 11/6/2004


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Re: Using the physical mouse with NVDA on some inaccessible Internet controls

 

Gene,

         If you can toss me some specific examples of the flash issue you're describing I can play around with it to see what I can determine.
--
Brian

    I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I need to respect in any way.

        ~ Ellen Evans, soc.motss, 11/6/2004


Re: Using the physical mouse with NVDA on some inaccessible Internet controls

 

Well its a bit hit and miss.
The feadback with the mouse is not much.
Its only usefull for programs with quirky controls.
But sadly, accessibility just like windows touchscreens is totally crap and in fact with the mouse on windows its almost non existant.
Its good if you have a small window to review the screen and click certain buttons but its vertually a non use item.
Its not reliable enough for me to even call it stable and has never been this way ever since I can remember.
I in fact turn off mouse support generally as nvda tends to say extranious junk on mouse stuff if it is on or gets moved.
And in fact bar the times I need this gaming mouse I have half a mind to remove the mouse entirely, disable my laptop internal touchpad and rely on the external board.
I must admit I do use a mouse on systems not my own which may not or may have programs that need the mouse to work.
The only reason I have used a mouse on here is to access some functions of my semi accessible applien convertion suite but once those were set it was fine to do whatever to get things to work.

On 15/03/2017 10:30 a.m., Gene wrote:
I've seen a small number of messages on using the physical mouse with NVDA but I've never seen this sort of question discussed. I was looking at the Drop Box site a few days ago and I found that files can't be deleted working with the web site using a screen-reader and the keyboard. This doesn't matter for those using the program but I'm curious about the implications for other inaccessible controls and on whether deletion can be done on the Drop box site.

Accordingt to Drop Box help, you have to click the empty space to the right of the file name and a list of options will come up. I have no idea if a blind person can know when he/she is in the right place to click using a mouse nor do I know whether the options that come up are accessible using a screen-reader or a mouse.

I'm curious also about some flash embedded objects that can't be worked with from the keyboard.

Thanks for any information.

I might buy a mouse and play around if it seems more access can be gotten in some situations.

Gene

Re: Using the physical mouse with NVDA on some inaccessible Internet controls

Gene
 

I would think that I should be able to move to the end of the file name in the Drop Box example, then route the cursor to the review position, then use the Golden Cursor program to move a little to the right.  I tried that but I was unable to see anything related to deleting when I clicked with the NVDA mouse command.  Assuming that I was in the right place, a  menu or list of items may have come up in another part of the screen or it may have been inaccessible. 
 
I'm particularly curious about flash players where, when you click on the embedded object, you can't get play to occur no matter what you do after clicking.  I suspect that something must be clicked on somewhere else on the screen and I wonder if that thing is accessible with the mouse when moving around.  I haven't seen anything when moving with a screen-reader after clicking the object..
 
this will become less a problem with the ongoing adoption of HTML5 but it would be nice to know while the problem exists.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using the physical mouse with NVDA on some inaccessible Internet controls

Gene,

         I cannot speak in any specific way to Dropbox since I do not use it, but I can speak to some general bits related to mouse use and/or the Golden Cursor add-on for actions non-accessible otherwise.

         If a given website presents things like a list of files consistently such that you know there will be white space that a sighted person would right click on and the display is in a tabular format then you can definitely try using the mouse once the PC cursor (mouse cursor) has been routed to the virtual cursor and pulling in the direction you need to go with a steady hand in that direction.  The trick here is that there is no control for NVDA to read when you get to "the right spot" since that spot is blank.  This is why I think that Golden Cursor is more helpful for situations such as this one where the respective "row" positions are consistent as are the "column" positions for the white space.  If you set up the collection of pixel positions for any given screen, for example the maximum number of files that Dropbox will display on a single screen's worth of information, you can route your mouse pointer to the respective "white space" locations per file and then just right click with the mouse or mouse pad once the mouse pointer is known to be positioned where it needs to be.

          I generally have folks try using the mouse as a "quick an dirty" review of what might be on a page but there is a lot of potential for mouse use with NVDA's mouse tracking feature enabled.  Invisible controls, such as those you describe, are a real challenge and I'm actually surprised that Dropbox does not implement them in such a way that a screen reader user would land on a control that is announced but that is completely invisible to a sighted person since they can be given the generic instruction to "right click on the white space to the right of the file name".  I've been on certain sites that use non-visible links and controls specifically for screen-reader users, but I can't pull up an example at the moment.
--
Brian

    I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I need to respect in any way.

        ~ Ellen Evans, soc.motss, 11/6/2004


Re: [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

Arlene
 

Oh right on!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: March-14-17 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

 

The pi is a computer which is basically a circket board with a ram and processor about the size of a credit card.  They're very cheep, and let you do some very specific things.  You know, you can make a cloud server or a home automation server, or build your own electronic device with a custom chassey like an mp3 player or a telephone or something.

They are pretty neet, and the hardware is getting serious.

Best,

Erik

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On March 14, 2017 5:24:31 PM "Arlene" <nedster66@...> wrote:

What is this?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: March-14-17 11:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

 

raspberryVI group/mailing list:

http://www.raspberryvi.org/stories/index.html

 

Jacob
Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype:
BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is
versatile..."

On 2017-03-14 19:52, mk360 wrote:

Hi,

First of all, sorry for the off topic.

About the Raspberry Pi, I know some people is working with it, so where can I start how to play with it? in accessible modes, obviously (that is the reasson because I'm asking this here).

Thanks, and please, reply to my private mail, no to the list.

mk.

 

Re: Using the physical mouse with NVDA on some inaccessible Internet controls

 

Gene,

         I cannot speak in any specific way to Dropbox since I do not use it, but I can speak to some general bits related to mouse use and/or the Golden Cursor add-on for actions non-accessible otherwise.

         If a given website presents things like a list of files consistently such that you know there will be white space that a sighted person would right click on and the display is in a tabular format then you can definitely try using the mouse once the PC cursor (mouse cursor) has been routed to the virtual cursor and pulling in the direction you need to go with a steady hand in that direction.  The trick here is that there is no control for NVDA to read when you get to "the right spot" since that spot is blank.  This is why I think that Golden Cursor is more helpful for situations such as this one where the respective "row" positions are consistent as are the "column" positions for the white space.  If you set up the collection of pixel positions for any given screen, for example the maximum number of files that Dropbox will display on a single screen's worth of information, you can route your mouse pointer to the respective "white space" locations per file and then just right click with the mouse or mouse pad once the mouse pointer is known to be positioned where it needs to be.

          I generally have folks try using the mouse as a "quick an dirty" review of what might be on a page but there is a lot of potential for mouse use with NVDA's mouse tracking feature enabled.  Invisible controls, such as those you describe, are a real challenge and I'm actually surprised that Dropbox does not implement them in such a way that a screen reader user would land on a control that is announced but that is completely invisible to a sighted person since they can be given the generic instruction to "right click on the white space to the right of the file name".  I've been on certain sites that use non-visible links and controls specifically for screen-reader users, but I can't pull up an example at the moment.
--
Brian

    I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I need to respect in any way.

        ~ Ellen Evans, soc.motss, 11/6/2004


Re: [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

The pi is a computer which is basically a circket board with a ram and processor about the size of a credit card.  They're very cheep, and let you do some very specific things.  You know, you can make a cloud server or a home automation server, or build your own electronic device with a custom chassey like an mp3 player or a telephone or something.

They are pretty neet, and the hardware is getting serious.

Best,

Erik

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On March 14, 2017 5:24:31 PM "Arlene" <nedster66@...> wrote:

What is this?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: March-14-17 11:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

 

raspberryVI group/mailing list:

http://www.raspberryvi.org/stories/index.html

 

Jacob
Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype:
BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is
versatile..."

On 2017-03-14 19:52, mk360 wrote:

Hi,

First of all, sorry for the off topic.

About the Raspberry Pi, I know some people is working with it, so where can I start how to play with it? in accessible modes, obviously (that is the reasson because I'm asking this here).

Thanks, and please, reply to my private mail, no to the list.

mk.

 

Re: Accessible Application Updater

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I got it but for some reason not in the order it should have been in. got it now loud and clear sorry.

On 14/03/2017 14:04, Gene wrote:
Maybe you ddidn't receive my first message.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:46 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater

hi Gene, sorry I should not have responded to this on list this is a
good egsample of not reading all mail first. but as said this has been
resolved. but I did not see any mail to date saying to stop speaking
about this.

On 14/03/2017 00:54, Gene wrote:
I have no objection tothe original discussion continuing.

When such personal disputes come up, will list members please make a
point of reading all their male before responding? And it would be a
good idea to wait a while to see if the thread is resolved before
commenting. In this case the dispute had been resolved before another
message was sent by a list member not originally in the dispute. It is
nnot appropriate for small disputes like this to become topics for
general discussion.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Christopher-Mark Gilland <mailto:@AHeart4God316>
*Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 7:34 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater

Is it ok if we continue the thread as long as it is related to
specifically the updater software, and not regarding the comments that
were made, or would you rather it be closed period altogether.

Please clarify. Either way, I'm ok with your decision.

Chris.


Using the physical mouse with NVDA on some inaccessible Internet controls

Gene
 

I've seen a small number of messages on using the physical mouse with NVDA but I've never seen this sort of question discussed.  I was looking at the Drop Box site a few days ago and I found that files can't be deleted working with the web site using a screen-reader and the keyboard.  This doesn't matter for those using the program but I'm curious about the implications for other inaccessible controls and on whether deletion can be done on the Drop box site. 
 
Accordingt to Drop Box help, you have to click the empty space to the right of the file name and a list of options will come up.  I have no idea if a blind person can know when he/she is in the right place to click using a mouse nor do I know whether the options that come up are accessible using a screen-reader or a mouse. 
 
I'm curious also about some flash embedded objects that can't be worked with from the keyboard. 
 
Thanks for any information.
 
I might buy a mouse and play around if it seems more access can be gotten in some situations.
 
Gene

Re: [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

Arlene
 

What is this?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: March-14-17 11:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

 

raspberryVI group/mailing list:

http://www.raspberryvi.org/stories/index.html

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-03-14 19:52, mk360 wrote:

Hi,

First of all, sorry for the off topic.

About the Raspberry Pi, I know some people is working with it, so where can I start how to play with it? in accessible modes, obviously (that is the reasson because I'm asking this here).

Thanks, and please, reply to my private mail, no to the list.

mk.

 

Re: Is NVDA right for me?

Gene
 

Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA.  I don't know just what Narrator can do.  for your purposes, I don't know if it's any better or not.  Narrator may be simpler but that doesn't mean it will meet your needs.  I'm not saying that NVDA or Narrator will meet your needs or not.  I'm saying that I don't think you are looking at options in the right order.  I would think that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet forums where people who have dyslexia and other print disabilities can discuss programs they use to read print and they may be able to discuss how best to read whatever you want to read.  
 
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look into screen-readers after you try to get information about other means.  I'm saying that I think you are looking at options in the wrong order.  Screen-readers are intended for blind users and don't necessarily do things that you want done or in the way you want them done. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to
navigate the computer.

I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now
leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.

Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.

Thanks for the help!

-----Original Message-----
>From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
>Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
>
>Hi,
>
>I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
>
>Pranav
>
>
>
>


Re: Is NVDA right for me?

john s
 

If you have Microsoft Office 2010 or later, you can get Window Eyes for free.

At 02:27 PM 3/14/2017, you wrote:
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to
navigate the computer.

I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now
leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.

Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.

Thanks for the help!

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Hi,

I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask
may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.

Pranav



John

Re: Is NVDA right for me?

Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
 

Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to
navigate the computer.

I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now
leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.

Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.

Thanks for the help!

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?

Hi,

I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.

Pranav



Re: Reading Comics and Graphic Novels Out Loud

Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
 

My disability is only neurological, meaning that if I concentrate or read
text I get very sick and weak and get a lot of physical pain.

I am able to see pictures, however, so I just need a program
that could extract the text from the dialogue bubble.

Not sure if an OCR program would do that to a comic book,
does anyone know?

-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading Comics and Graphic Novels Out Loud

Hi,
<snip I am a big fan of comic books and graphic novels, but can't read them easily because of a cognitive impairment.
PL] A screen reader is the wrong tool for the job. Graphic novels and comics have images that need to be described in context therefore even current image description solutions will fail because they do not retain context. Optical character recognition will not get you anywhere either because there is not much text. A better option is to consider places such as comicsempower.com who produce comics and graphic novels in accessible form. They incorporate image descriptions in the flow of the narrative.

Pranav



Re: [Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

Jacob Kruger
 

raspberryVI group/mailing list:

http://www.raspberryvi.org/stories/index.html


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-03-14 19:52, mk360 wrote:

Hi,

First of all, sorry for the off topic.
About the Raspberry Pi, I know some people is working with it, so where can I start how to play with it? in accessible modes, obviously (that is the reasson because I'm asking this here).

Thanks, and please, reply to my private mail, no to the list.
mk.

[Off topic] Raspberry Pi and accessibility, where to start?

mk360
 

Hi,

First of all, sorry for the off topic.
About the Raspberry Pi, I know some people is working with it, so where can I start how to play with it? in accessible modes, obviously (that is the reasson because I'm asking this here).

Thanks, and please, reply to my private mail, no to the list.
mk.

Re: Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only

Dejan Ristic
 

We both agree. I can find embedded object, but not the buttons. I use NVDA in English. It is only that I find the buttons in IE 11. It was possible with Firefox too, but now it is not.


On 3/14/2017 3:02 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if the language being used in NVDA or in Windows settings has anything to do with the command.  I use English and the command is the letter b for move to next button.  That should move you to player buttons if HTML 5 is being used and if the buttons are accessible.  But from your last description, that in Chrome you can find the embedded object by arrowing to it, that means that standard buttons aren't being used.  HTML5 usually uses standard buttons but, as you know, Flash uses its own buttons. 
 
IGene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only

Hi Gene,


Let me try to give you a reply to your question, although I'm not going to promise that I shall be more certain at the moment.


As for the buttons from the first link, I'm unable to see them in any of the browsers, except Internet Explorer 11, currently installed on my machine.


How do I find the buttons?


When I open the link in IE, I hit O to get me to the embedded object area. Then, I hit space, and the buttons play and pause are before me. I was able to do the same in Firefox before.


As for Firefox, Chrome, and Opera now, I am able to do the following:


When I find the embedded object area, and when I press space on it, the only thing I can do is switch to the focus mode, and turn the volume up and down by using the up and down arrows.


The same goes for the second link.


On 3/14/2017 2:10 AM, Gene wrote:
I almost never use Chrome and it isn't current on my Windows 7 machine.  I can let it update and test it later tonight on that machine if you don't get definite answers before then.  I can check the site later after I let Chrome update.  But I can't switch machines now.  I was able to see an embedded object when I used my older version of Chrome on my XP machine.  I think this is a problem introduced in Chrome.  My older version of Chrome is still new enough that it should have played an HTML5 stream if it were available.  Let's try to be more certain.  Try going to the first link you gave and, starting from the top of the page, look for button the pag3e.  Do you see anything like a play button and other buttons you might see in a player?  If so, then the new Chrome is using an HTML stream. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only

Gene,


Here is the first link: http://www.rtrs.tv/program/uzivo.php?c=2


The page is in Serbian, so I think that it will not matter. It is a radio live streaming programme.



Here comes the second one:

http://philosopher-at-large.blogspot.ba/2012/06/guest-poet.html

Take care,
Dejan

On 3/14/2017 12:14 AM, Gene wrote:
On what sites?  Can you give a link to a specific movie or audio where this happens?  When people report a problem on web pages, if possible, an address to a page where the problem occurs should be given.  This may or may not be a problem with Chrome.  It may be that for some reason, other browsers are using HTML5 for the stream and other browsers are using Flash on the same page. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 4:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unable to get to Embedded object when playing something in Google Chrome only

Hi,


I'm no longer able to get to embedded objects by pressing O, and/or
Shift O when I play a movie or audio. It happens only in Google Chrome.
NVDA says: No next embedded object, and/or No previous embedded object.


When I try the same in Firefox, or even Opera, or even Avast! Safe Zone
Browser, it won't fail.


Note:


I am regularly in the browse mode, for it is only possible to issue the
embedded object-related command when in the browse mode.


Google chrome version: latest.


NVDA version: latest.


Operating system: Windows version: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (64-bit)


Note 2:


When I arrow up or down manually on a web page, I can find the embedded
object area on the page.






Virus-free. www.avast.com


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Accessible Application Updater

Gene
 

Maybe you ddidn't receive my first message.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater

hi Gene,   sorry I should not have responded to this on list this is a
good egsample of not reading all mail first.   but as said this has been
resolved.  but I did not see any mail to date saying to stop speaking
about this.

On 14/03/2017 00:54, Gene wrote:
> I have no objection tothe original discussion continuing.
>
> When such personal disputes come up, will list members please make a
> point of reading all their male before responding? And it would be a
> good idea to wait a while to see if the thread is resolved before
> commenting.  In this case the dispute had been resolved before another
> message was sent by a list member not originally in the dispute.  It is
> nnot appropriate for small disputes like this to become topics for
> general discussion.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Christopher-Mark Gilland <mailto:clgilland07@...>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 7:34 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>
> Is it ok if we continue the thread as long as it is related to
> specifically the updater software, and not regarding the comments that
> were made, or would you rather it be closed period altogether.
>
> Please clarify. Either way, I'm ok with your decision.
>
> Chris.
>
>