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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Lino Morales
 

It says error checking for updates.


On 2/25/2017 12:02 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03. If you have 17.02 installed, go ahead and check for add-on update (NvDA menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials, then Update button).

 

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.03

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Announcing immediate release of Enhanced Touch gestures add-on version 17.03

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

Back in the days, I even sent a buglog to Joseph, and he couldn't seem to figure out the problem.

I'm definitely not here to play the blame game, so please please know that! Over all NVDA is just! fabulous! but this is one area that no matter what I try doing, no matter what hardware I use, I just cannot seem to get working as advertized.

Chris.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 04:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing immediate release of Enhanced Touch gestures add-on version 17.03

I find nvda very bad with touch as well. I hope at some time the devs
might do something with touch. I thought it was just me, but to many
users seem to report that they can't work touch. I know someone will
come back and say it works well with me but I have about 5 tablet devices and just can not get nvda to play well with touch I have given up.

On 25/02/2017 02:25, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I still can't get the touch gestures to work half of the time.
Usually, when I try, NVDA just goes totally haywire. This isn't a
recent thing either. As I recall, Joseph, you and I talked a while
back on the phone about this. I still to this day on my MS Surface 3
have the same results, if not worse. Half the time flicking and double
tapping doesn't work, and anything requiring multiple fingers practically never ever works.

Yes, I do have the latest version of the addon installed, and yes, I'm
on NVDA 2017.1, but even still no improvement.

Even on my mother's HP laptop with a touch screen, I tried over there,
and again, no dice. Same oddities.

I've practically completely given up 100% on touch. Just for the
record, JAWS is doing the same thing both on my Surface as well as on
my mom's laptop. I'm usually incredibly good at picking up a touch
screen device, and within less than a day, I usually have it pretty
well figured out, so this isn't anything like me performing the
gestures wrong, that I know of.

Chris.


----- Original Message -----
*From:* Joseph Lee <mailto:@joslee>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 8:29 PM
*Subject:* [nvda] Announcing immediate release of Enhanced Touch
gestures add-on version 17.03

Hi all,



For those who are using NVDA on toushcreen computers: Enhanced Touch
Gestures add-on 17.03 is now available. This version resolves
incompatibility with NVDA 2017.1 (specifically, it now deals with
multi-monitor setups). More info can be found at:


https://github.com/josephsl/enhancedTouchGestures/releases/tag/17.03



Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Announcing immediate release of Enhanced Touch gestures add-on version 17.03

Kevin Cussick
 

I find nvda very bad with touch as well. I hope at some time the devs might do something with touch. I thought it was just me, but to many users seem to report that they can't work touch. I know someone will come back and say it works well with me but I have about 5 tablet devices and just can not get nvda to play well with touch I have given up.

On 25/02/2017 02:25, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I still can't get the touch gestures to work half of the time. Usually,
when I try, NVDA just goes totally haywire. This isn't a recent thing
either. As I recall, Joseph, you and I talked a while back on the phone
about this. I still to this day on my MS Surface 3 have the same
results, if not worse. Half the time flicking and double tapping doesn't
work, and anything requiring multiple fingers practically never ever works.

Yes, I do have the latest version of the addon installed, and yes, I'm
on NVDA 2017.1, but even still no improvement.

Even on my mother's HP laptop with a touch screen, I tried over there,
and again, no dice. Same oddities.

I've practically completely given up 100% on touch. Just for the record,
JAWS is doing the same thing both on my Surface as well as on my mom's
laptop. I'm usually incredibly good at picking up a touch screen device,
and within less than a day, I usually have it pretty well figured out,
so this isn't anything like me performing the gestures wrong, that I
know of.

Chris.


----- Original Message -----
*From:* Joseph Lee <mailto:@joslee>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 8:29 PM
*Subject:* [nvda] Announcing immediate release of Enhanced Touch
gestures add-on version 17.03

Hi all,



For those who are using NVDA on toushcreen computers: Enhanced Touch
Gestures add-on 17.03 is now available. This version resolves
incompatibility with NVDA 2017.1 (specifically, it now deals with
multi-monitor setups). More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/enhancedTouchGestures/releases/tag/17.03



Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Questions about the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on

 

Hi,

Regarding Maps app: yes, this is part of Maps app.

Regardinb Bulgarian translation: I don’t know exactly what’s up, but the Bulgarian translation is included.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 10:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Questions about the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on

 

Hello Joseph and all,

I've updated to Windows 10 App Essentials add-on version 17.03 and I have two questions for now:

1. Why, even though in the distributed bulgarian .po file for the add-on all strings are translated, the add-on messages and dialogs are in english? My copy of NVDA is in bulgarian. I use NVDA version next-13899,af44c1d4.

2. What is this "Use Keyboard" option for the "Maps" app? Is it an option in "Maps" itself, or an option in NVDA? I can't find it in "Maps".

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I apologize if it came across like I was complaining or not willing to be patient, etc. That was far from my tone. All that I was saying is I, too, didn't understand exactly the logic behind why things were not just included within the actual build, but seeing that little tweaks get made as problems arise, you definitely do have a very good point there. Otherwise, we'd have to wait until a whole new release was made public, which may be several months, as aposed to just patching what is needed through that addon, then pushing just an update to the addon itself, so yeah... at the end of the day, I see where you're going with this, most definitely.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Hello.
What I've realised is that the features in the Windows 10 app
essentials add-on are being slowly integrated into NVDA release by
release. Certainly, these are tweeks being made by Joseph and others,
and they must go through a review process by the devs and others to
ensure quality.
Yes, I have the add-on, and I wish some of its features, like its
notification of updates, as an add-on, were integrated into NVDA, but
it takes time.

On 2/25/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
> You know... I wasn't gonna say anything, in fear of being taken rudely,
> which I don't want, but I must say that in some respect, I have to agree
> here with Bill. I'm sure it's probably more or less a technical reason that
> we're failing to realize, but if anyone has any idea, please do let us both
> know. I get that it may just be that obviously... not everyone is running
> Windows 10, at which point, that would make perfect sense why not to commit
> slipstream it right into the main code.
>
> Is that basically the reasoning?
>
> Chris.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Bill Dengler
>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 1:22 PM
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released
>
>
>   Hello,
>   Why is this a separate add-on? Shouldn’t we try to integrate these into
> NVDA mainline?
>
>
>   Bill
>
>     On Feb 25, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
> wrote:
>
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App
> Essentials 17.03. If you have 17.02 installed, go ahead and check for add-on
> update (NvDA menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials, then Update
> button).
>
>     More info can be found at:
>     https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.03
>
>     Cheers,
>     Joseph
>
>
>
>


Re: Important Message For Joseph - Serious Security Flaw Identified In the Windows 10 App Essentials Add-On

 

Hi,
Right - I'll add an issue on the GitHub page for the add-on. Thanks for bringing this up (will release 17.03.1 that addresses this problem soon).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Laughingthunder
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 11:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Important Message For Joseph - Serious Security Flaw Identified In the Windows 10 App Essentials Add-On

Hello,

I believe I have identified a serious security flaw in the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on for NVDA. The add-on should never check for updates, or present the dialog asking if the user would like to update the add-on while NVDA is running on the log on and other secure screens.
I know that NVDA does warn if add-ons are found while copying the configuration to the system profile, but I feel that this warning cannot be relied upon to prevent serious security issues, such as the one described above. I cannot be the only user who allows some add-ons, such as speech synthesizers and other low-risk add-ons on the secure desktop intentionally for convenience. I feel that this should be addressed by preventing the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on from displaying update messages on secure screens, just in case it ends up in that configuration.

Also, NVDA should never display any add-on help entries in the NVDA help menu when running on secure screens, in the same way that custom preferences menu entries are hidden. I.E. if the NoBeepsSpeechMode add-on is installed in the system configuration, its help menu entry is displayed in the NVDA help menu on secure screens.

Important Message For Joseph - Serious Security Flaw Identified In the Windows 10 App Essentials Add-On

Laughing Thunder
 

Hello,

I believe I have identified a serious security flaw in the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on for NVDA. The add-on should never check for updates, or present the dialog asking if the user would like to update the add-on while NVDA is running on the log on and other secure screens. I know that NVDA does warn if add-ons are found while copying the configuration to the system profile, but I feel that this warning cannot be relied upon to prevent serious security issues, such as the one described above. I cannot be the only user who allows some add-ons, such as speech synthesizers and other low-risk add-ons on the secure desktop intentionally for convenience. I feel that this should be addressed by preventing the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on from displaying update messages on secure screens, just in case it ends up in that configuration.

Also, NVDA should never display any add-on help entries in the NVDA help menu when running on secure screens, in the same way that custom preferences menu entries are hidden. I.E. if the NoBeepsSpeechMode add-on is installed in the system configuration, its help menu entry is displayed in the NVDA help menu on secure screens.

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Andre Fisher
 

Hello.
What I've realised is that the features in the Windows 10 app
essentials add-on are being slowly integrated into NVDA release by
release. Certainly, these are tweeks being made by Joseph and others,
and they must go through a review process by the devs and others to
ensure quality.
Yes, I have the add-on, and I wish some of its features, like its
notification of updates, as an add-on, were integrated into NVDA, but
it takes time.

On 2/25/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <@AHeart4God316> wrote:
You know... I wasn't gonna say anything, in fear of being taken rudely,
which I don't want, but I must say that in some respect, I have to agree
here with Bill. I'm sure it's probably more or less a technical reason that
we're failing to realize, but if anyone has any idea, please do let us both
know. I get that it may just be that obviously... not everyone is running
Windows 10, at which point, that would make perfect sense why not to commit
slipstream it right into the main code.

Is that basically the reasoning?

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Dengler
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released


Hello,
Why is this a separate add-on? Shouldn’t we try to integrate these into
NVDA mainline?


Bill

On Feb 25, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Joseph Lee <@joslee>
wrote:


Hi all,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App
Essentials 17.03. If you have 17.02 installed, go ahead and check for add-on
update (NvDA menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials, then Update
button).

More info can be found at:
https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.03

Cheers,
Joseph



Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


You know... I wasn't gonna say anything, in fear of being taken rudely, which I don't want, but I must say that in some respect, I have to agree here with Bill. I'm sure it's probably more or less a technical reason that we're failing to realize, but if anyone has any idea, please do let us both know. I get that it may just be that obviously... not everyone is running Windows 10, at which point, that would make perfect sense why not to commit slipstream it right into the main code.
 
Is that basically the reasoning?
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Hello,
Why is this a separate add-on? Shouldn’t we try to integrate these into NVDA mainline?

Bill
On Feb 25, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi all,
I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03. If you have 17.02 installed, go ahead and check for add-on update (NvDA menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials, then Update button).
More info can be found at:
Cheers,
Joseph

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

No no.
 
NVDA>Tools, not preferences>Manage Addons.
Under here, tab to the list view of your installed addons, and find app essentials. Then, from there, tab to the update button, and hit enter.
 
Does that make more sense?
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Hi Joseph,

 

Can you please explain how to update again?

I feel stupid but,

 

menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials,

 

but, when I go to the preferences in nvda I don’t have an app assentials option.

If I go to tools I then hve add-ons and under that I do have app assentials installed and running.

 

then Update button).

 

I don’t see an update anywhere. When I go to the site you listed below and try to right click to save the download stable version I just get an html page.

If I try to click on it nothing happens for me.

 

Thanks so much in advance for the extra help.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.03

 

Cheers,

Joseph

Questions about the Windows 10 App Essentials add-on

 

Hello Joseph and all,

I've updated to Windows 10 App Essentials add-on version 17.03 and I have two questions for now:

1. Why, even though in the distributed bulgarian .po file for the add-on all strings are translated, the add-on messages and dialogs are in english? My copy of NVDA is in bulgarian. I use NVDA version next-13899,af44c1d4.

2. What is this "Use Keyboard" option for the "Maps" app? Is it an option in "Maps" itself, or an option in NVDA? I can't find it in "Maps".

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Bill Dengler
 

Hello,
Why is this a separate add-on? Shouldn’t we try to integrate these into NVDA mainline?

Bill

On Feb 25, 2017, at 5:02 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi all,
 
I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03. If you have 17.02 installed, go ahead and check for add-on update (NvDA menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials, then Update button).
 
More info can be found at:
 
Cheers,
Joseph

Re: New windows not always detected

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Yes, This happens to me often.  It is not limited to Firefox.  I’m running windows 7 home premium 64 bit version.
 
George
 

From: Felix G.
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 1:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] New windows not always detected
 
Hello,
I'd like to ask if anyone else has encountered the following:
When launching an application, for example by hitting enter on Mozilla Firefox on the desktop, NVDA sometimes fails to detect there is a new active window. It will not automatically say anything, and pressing NVDA+t will still yield "Explorer" as if the desktop still had focus. However, pressing tab clearly shows that Firefox had focus because it performs the expected action of jumping, for example, out of the address field and into the search field.
For an experiment I gave it a full five minutes to see if it just takes an awful lot of time, but no luck. So, window activation events seem under certain conditions to be able to pass under NVDA's radar.
It might be worth noting that I noticed this not long after a reboot and the dust might not have fully settled in terms of background tasks starting and stopping.
Kind regards,
Felix

Re: New windows not always detected

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you mean.  When this happens, I either try tabbing or going to the desktop and then alt tabbing back to the program.  In some programs, one approach seems to work better and the other in other programs. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New windows not always detected

whats your solution for solving this?

On 2/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I just tested using XP and JAWS.  On the three programs where I have this or
> a similar problem, it didn't occur with JAWS.  I tested opening each program
> twice.  Though I was skeptical that this was an NVDA problem, it now appears
> that it is.  Perhaps these programs have something in common that causes
> NVDA to have this initial focus problem.
>
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:32 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] New windows not always detected
>
>
> I saw a message from an XP user saying that he doesn't encounter the problem
> in XP.  I still use XP and I see the problem in Firefox, Chrome and Tapin
> Radio.
>
> I didn't keep the message so I can't include it in the quoted previous
> messages.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Dejan Ristic
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:29 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] New windows not always detected
>
>
> I have encountered it, too.
>
>
>
>
> On 2/25/2017 8:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:
>
>   Hello,
>
>   I'd like to ask if anyone else has encountered the following:
>
>   When launching an application, for example by hitting enter on Mozilla
> Firefox on the desktop, NVDA sometimes fails to detect there is a new active
> window. It will not automatically say anything, and pressing NVDA+t will
> still yield "Explorer" as if the desktop still had focus. However, pressing
> tab clearly shows that Firefox had focus because it performs the expected
> action of jumping, for example, out of the address field and into the search
> field.
>
>   For an experiment I gave it a full five minutes to see if it just takes an
> awful lot of time, but no luck. So, window activation events seem under
> certain conditions to be able to pass under NVDA's radar.
>
>   It might be worth noting that I noticed this not long after a reboot and
> the dust might not have fully settled in terms of background tasks starting
> and stopping.
>
>   Kind regards,
>
>   Felix
>
>
>
>      Virus-free. www.avast.com
>
>


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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

 

Hi Sam,

Which version of the add-on are you running (perhaps earlier than 17.02)? If so, go to the following page:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/wintenApps.en.html

 

From there, go to “stable version” link, press ENTER, and when asked to open or save, choose whatever you’d like to do then install the add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 9:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

 

Hi Joseph,

 

Can you please explain how to update again?

I feel stupid but,

 

menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials,

 

but, when I go to the preferences in nvda I don’t have an app assentials option.

If I go to tools I then hve add-ons and under that I do have app assentials installed and running.

 

then Update button).

 

I don’t see an update anywhere. When I go to the site you listed below and try to right click to save the download stable version I just get an html page.

If I try to click on it nothing happens for me.

 

Thanks so much in advance for the extra help.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.03

 

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

Sam Bushman
 

Hi Joseph,

 

Can you please explain how to update again?

I feel stupid but,

 

menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials,

 

but, when I go to the preferences in nvda I don’t have an app assentials option.

If I go to tools I then hve add-ons and under that I do have app assentials installed and running.

 

then Update button).

 

I don’t see an update anywhere. When I go to the site you listed below and try to right click to save the download stable version I just get an html page.

If I try to click on it nothing happens for me.

 

Thanks so much in advance for the extra help.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.03

 

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: New windows not always detected

 

whats your solution for solving this?

On 2/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just tested using XP and JAWS. On the three programs where I have this or
a similar problem, it didn't occur with JAWS. I tested opening each program
twice. Though I was skeptical that this was an NVDA problem, it now appears
that it is. Perhaps these programs have something in common that causes
NVDA to have this initial focus problem.


Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New windows not always detected


I saw a message from an XP user saying that he doesn't encounter the problem
in XP. I still use XP and I see the problem in Firefox, Chrome and Tapin
Radio.

I didn't keep the message so I can't include it in the quoted previous
messages.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Dejan Ristic
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 2:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New windows not always detected


I have encountered it, too.




On 2/25/2017 8:51 AM, Felix G. wrote:

Hello,

I'd like to ask if anyone else has encountered the following:

When launching an application, for example by hitting enter on Mozilla
Firefox on the desktop, NVDA sometimes fails to detect there is a new active
window. It will not automatically say anything, and pressing NVDA+t will
still yield "Explorer" as if the desktop still had focus. However, pressing
tab clearly shows that Firefox had focus because it performs the expected
action of jumping, for example, out of the address field and into the search
field.

For an experiment I gave it a full five minutes to see if it just takes an
awful lot of time, but no luck. So, window activation events seem under
certain conditions to be able to pass under NVDA's radar.

It might be worth noting that I noticed this not long after a reboot and
the dust might not have fully settled in terms of background tasks starting
and stopping.

Kind regards,

Felix



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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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al-islam.org

Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03 released

 

Hi all,

 

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03. If you have 17.02 installed, go ahead and check for add-on update (NvDA menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials, then Update button).

 

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.03

 

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 1702

 

Hi,

Speak typed characters: yes, the fix for it is part of NVDA 2017.1.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 5:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 1702

 

Hi Joseph

Currently the speak typed characters setting has no effect when in the Calculator app.  Are you saying that it will function in the upcoming major build of Windows?  I appreciate your point about it being a user experience issue rather than a technical one however, the fact that it is bundled with several other improvements to the user experience covering a variety of apps, limits the choice for users who, like me for example, want the Mail features of W10AE but not the Calculator ones.

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 25 February 2017 12:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 1702

 

Hi,

It is intentional: suppose you run Calculator in Creators Update (or the upcoming major build) and tell NVDA to announce typed characters. You’ll hear duplicates if this happens. However, I’ll leave open the possibility where this will not be the case anymore in a few weeks if people say that they prefer hearing “display is N” each time you press number keys or what not (a decision having to do with user experience, not a technical one).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 1702

 

Hi

I may be mistaken , I can’t check because i deleted the message but together with the announcement that Windows Mail app can now read messages with the arrow keys, Joseph said that the Calculator app will not read anything but the display field without the addon.  He may have been referring to an upcoming build of Windows (I’m using Version 1607 (OS Build 14393.693)) but if not, then in the Calculator app this is not the case. 

 

Without the app essentials add-on running, the calculator display value is echoed as you type, with the add-on this does not occur, in all other aspects, access to other parts of the calculator app appears to be identical whether the add-on is running or not.  In my opinion, the add-on makes Calculator access less user friendly.

 

Cheers

Chris 

Re: problems with spell checker in

Gene
 

According to a discussion I saw I believe here a number of months ago, this can't be done in Outlook.  But in Winword, which as I recall is Microsoft Word, you can use the review commands to do so.  Are you using the desktop or laptop NVDA layout?  I don't know the laptop layout.  I shall discuss the desktop layout.  It may be important to be in object review mode.  Use the command numpad insert numpad one to make sure you are in that mode.  If you hear no previous review modes or something similar, you are in that mode.  If you hear something else announced, then issue the command until you hear object review or something similar. 
 
Use read current word, numpad 5 to see if it reads the misspelled word.  If it doesn't, let us know.  I may be able to test this on another machine but other list members already know the command to use. 
 
In Outlook, people reported that the misspelled word can't be found using review no matter what is done.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 8:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] problems with spell checker in

I was trying to use the spell checker in Outlook and WinWord the correction choices are being read, but when you try to manual correct an item NVDA does not read the item under the cursor.

Is there a setting that I can adjust?

Other than that, this screen reader rocks.