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Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

 

i forgot to say Always use the cursor keys to navigate within pages in
firefox options advance and general tab which is for accessibility.

On 2/24/17, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi.
i was not familiar with mathplayer.
but many months ago, i had this problem because of uninstalling one
office program.
i reinstalled office as the people in the list recommended me and the
problem is solved.
i had this problem only with firefox, not internet explorer.

On 2/24/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Good point Angelo, I often forget to suggest add-ons!

The one you want Arlene is SysTrayList:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/systrayList.en.html

It does exactly what you want - sets NVDA+F11 to let you access the items
in the system tray.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Angelo Sonnesso <@asonnesso>
wrote:

There is an NVDA add-in that uses the F11 key.





73 N2DYN Angelo



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Quentin
Christensen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:55 PM

*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem



Hi Arlene,



WINDOWS+B is a Windows command itself, not an NVDA command.



If you open the taskbar settings (easiest way is to open the start menu
and start typing "taskbar"), then "Select which icons appear on the
taskbar", make sure that "always show all icons in the notification
area"
is checked then it will ensure that you don't need to look in the
notification overflow area to find some.


I think providing access to all notification tray icons even without
that
setting is the main extra thing that the Jaws setting does?


That being the case, we didn't want to use up a command to duplicate
something which could already be achieved with an existing command. As
for
why Windows chose WINDOWS+B to get to the notification area, I have
never
figured that out.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh, okay! Happy learning! NVDA is good. I use both.Jaws and NVDA. Here's
more if you want to know. If you want to go to your system ttrey. With
NVDA
It's windows B. Don't ask me why that is. I wished like Jaws it's
insert
F
11

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Louis
Maher

Sent: February-23-17 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi Arlene,

JAWS is my primary screen reader, and I do not have any issues with it.
I
am trying to learn NVDA.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Arlene
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi, Do you have another back up screen reader to rectify your problem?
If
you do, then try your back up screen reader and see if you have that
same
problem! If NVDA is your primary screen reader you are in trouble.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Louis
Maher
Sent: February-23-17 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?). When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when
I
used them. I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both. I am
now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

















--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



Ph +61 7 3149 3306

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

 

hi.
i was not familiar with mathplayer.
but many months ago, i had this problem because of uninstalling one
office program.
i reinstalled office as the people in the list recommended me and the
problem is solved.
i had this problem only with firefox, not internet explorer.

On 2/24/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Good point Angelo, I often forget to suggest add-ons!

The one you want Arlene is SysTrayList:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/systrayList.en.html

It does exactly what you want - sets NVDA+F11 to let you access the items
in the system tray.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Angelo Sonnesso <@asonnesso>
wrote:

There is an NVDA add-in that uses the F11 key.





73 N2DYN Angelo



*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Quentin
Christensen
*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:55 PM

*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem



Hi Arlene,



WINDOWS+B is a Windows command itself, not an NVDA command.



If you open the taskbar settings (easiest way is to open the start menu
and start typing "taskbar"), then "Select which icons appear on the
taskbar", make sure that "always show all icons in the notification area"
is checked then it will ensure that you don't need to look in the
notification overflow area to find some.


I think providing access to all notification tray icons even without that
setting is the main extra thing that the Jaws setting does?


That being the case, we didn't want to use up a command to duplicate
something which could already be achieved with an existing command. As
for
why Windows chose WINDOWS+B to get to the notification area, I have never
figured that out.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh, okay! Happy learning! NVDA is good. I use both.Jaws and NVDA. Here's
more if you want to know. If you want to go to your system ttrey. With
NVDA
It's windows B. Don't ask me why that is. I wished like Jaws it's
insert
F
11

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher

Sent: February-23-17 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi Arlene,

JAWS is my primary screen reader, and I do not have any issues with it.
I
am trying to learn NVDA.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Arlene
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi, Do you have another back up screen reader to rectify your problem? If
you do, then try your back up screen reader and see if you have that same
problem! If NVDA is your primary screen reader you are in trouble.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher
Sent: February-23-17 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?). When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them. I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both. I am
now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

















--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



Ph +61 7 3149 3306

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Re: Questions and suggestions

Quentin Christensen
 

Just for completeness, since the same topic is in both threads, you can do this with the SysTrayList addon: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/systrayList.en.html

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Oh I see. I seen with other screen readers it was insert F 11. Just my 2 cents.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: February-23-17 5:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

Because Windows+B is the Windows specific shortcut.

On 2/23/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
> Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey.
> Why not make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B.
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Damien Sykes-Lindley
> Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions
>
>
>
> Hi Gene,
>
> Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a
> program is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to
> memorise all of them. But at least they’re there!
>
> The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is
> that, because they are global throughout the whole system, it can
> unfortunately cause conflicts with other running applications that
> utilise those shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q
> shortcut to launch QWS (a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit.
> I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p
> for next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey,
> and then it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m
> definitely all for hotkeys!
>
> As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating
> that there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys
> and yet it is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even
> more so for global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only
> have ctrl+alt and
> ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be
> ctrl+able
> to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.
>
> First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it
> all the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason
> it didn’t cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is
> also controlled by explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail
> view, and the desktop shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems.
> Strange how brains work!
>
> Cheers.
> Damien.
>
>
>
>









--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Quentin Christensen
 

Good point Angelo, I often forget to suggest add-ons!

The one you want Arlene is SysTrayList:

It does exactly what you want - sets NVDA+F11 to let you access the items in the system tray.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@...> wrote:

There is an NVDA add-in that uses the F11 key.

 

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:55 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

 

Hi Arlene,

 

WINDOWS+B is a Windows command itself, not an NVDA command.

 

If you open the taskbar settings (easiest way is to open the start menu and start typing "taskbar"), then "Select which icons appear on the taskbar", make sure that "always show all icons in the notification area" is checked then it will ensure that you don't need to look in the notification overflow area to find some.


I think providing access to all notification tray icons even without that setting is the main extra thing that the Jaws setting does?


That being the case, we didn't want to use up a command to duplicate something which could already be achieved with an existing command.  As for why Windows chose WINDOWS+B to get to the notification area, I have never figured that out.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh, okay! Happy learning! NVDA is good. I use both.Jaws and NVDA. Here's
more if you want to know. If you want to go to your system ttrey. With NVDA
It's windows B.  Don't ask me why that is.  I wished like Jaws it's insert F
11

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher

Sent: February-23-17 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi Arlene,

JAWS is my primary screen reader, and I do not have any issues with it.  I
am trying to learn NVDA.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi, Do you have another back up screen reader to rectify your problem? If
you do, then try your back up screen reader and see if you have that same
problem!  If NVDA is your primary screen reader you are in trouble.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher
Sent: February-23-17 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?).  When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them.  I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both.  I am now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...















 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

Re: Questions and suggestions

Arlene
 

Oh I see. I seen with other screen readers it was insert F 11. Just my 2 cents.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andre Fisher
Sent: February-23-17 5:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

Because Windows+B is the Windows specific shortcut.

On 2/23/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey.
Why not make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



Hi Gene,

Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a
program is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to
memorise all of them. But at least they’re there!

The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is
that, because they are global throughout the whole system, it can
unfortunately cause conflicts with other running applications that
utilise those shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q
shortcut to launch QWS (a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit.
I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p
for next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey,
and then it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m
definitely all for hotkeys!

As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating
that there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys
and yet it is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even
more so for global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only
have ctrl+alt and
ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be
ctrl+able
to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.

First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it
all the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason
it didn’t cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is
also controlled by explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail
view, and the desktop shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems.
Strange how brains work!

Cheers.
Damien.



Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Angelo Sonnesso
 

There is an NVDA add-in that uses the F11 key.

 

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

 

Hi Arlene,

 

WINDOWS+B is a Windows command itself, not an NVDA command.

 

If you open the taskbar settings (easiest way is to open the start menu and start typing "taskbar"), then "Select which icons appear on the taskbar", make sure that "always show all icons in the notification area" is checked then it will ensure that you don't need to look in the notification overflow area to find some.


I think providing access to all notification tray icons even without that setting is the main extra thing that the Jaws setting does?


That being the case, we didn't want to use up a command to duplicate something which could already be achieved with an existing command.  As for why Windows chose WINDOWS+B to get to the notification area, I have never figured that out.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh, okay! Happy learning! NVDA is good. I use both.Jaws and NVDA. Here's
more if you want to know. If you want to go to your system ttrey. With NVDA
It's windows B.  Don't ask me why that is.  I wished like Jaws it's insert F
11

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher

Sent: February-23-17 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi Arlene,

JAWS is my primary screen reader, and I do not have any issues with it.  I
am trying to learn NVDA.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi, Do you have another back up screen reader to rectify your problem? If
you do, then try your back up screen reader and see if you have that same
problem!  If NVDA is your primary screen reader you are in trouble.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher
Sent: February-23-17 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?).  When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them.  I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both.  I am now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...















 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Arlene,

WINDOWS+B is a Windows command itself, not an NVDA command.

If you open the taskbar settings (easiest way is to open the start menu and start typing "taskbar"), then "Select which icons appear on the taskbar", make sure that "always show all icons in the notification area" is checked then it will ensure that you don't need to look in the notification overflow area to find some.

I think providing access to all notification tray icons even without that setting is the main extra thing that the Jaws setting does?

That being the case, we didn't want to use up a command to duplicate something which could already be achieved with an existing command.  As for why Windows chose WINDOWS+B to get to the notification area, I have never figured that out.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:33 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Oh, okay! Happy learning! NVDA is good. I use both.Jaws and NVDA. Here's
more if you want to know. If you want to go to your system ttrey. With NVDA
It's windows B.  Don't ask me why that is.  I wished like Jaws it's insert F
11

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher
Sent: February-23-17 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi Arlene,

JAWS is my primary screen reader, and I do not have any issues with it.  I
am trying to learn NVDA.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi, Do you have another back up screen reader to rectify your problem? If
you do, then try your back up screen reader and see if you have that same
problem!  If NVDA is your primary screen reader you are in trouble.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher
Sent: February-23-17 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?).  When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them.  I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both.  I am now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

















--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

Re: Questions and suggestions

Andre Fisher
 

Because Windows+B is the Windows specific shortcut.

On 2/23/17, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey. Why not
make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien
Sykes-Lindley
Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



Hi Gene,

Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a program
is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to memorise all of
them. But at least they’re there!

The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is that,
because they are global throughout the whole system, it can unfortunately
cause conflicts with other running applications that utilise those
shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q shortcut to launch QWS
(a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit.
I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p for
next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey, and then
it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m definitely all
for hotkeys!

As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating that
there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys and yet it
is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even more so for
global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only have ctrl+alt and
ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be able
to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.

First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it all
the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason it didn’t
cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is also controlled by
explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail view, and the desktop
shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems.
Strange how brains work!

Cheers.
Damien.



Re: Questions and suggestions

Arlene
 

Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey. Why not make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

Hi Gene,

Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a program is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to memorise all of them. But at least they’re there!

The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is that, because they are global throughout the whole system, it can unfortunately cause conflicts with other running applications that utilise those shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q shortcut to launch QWS (a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit. I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p for next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey, and then it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m definitely all for hotkeys!

As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating that there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys and yet it is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even more so for global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only have ctrl+alt and ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be able to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.

First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it all the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason it didn’t cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is also controlled by explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail view, and the desktop shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems. Strange how brains work!

Cheers.
Damien.

Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Arlene
 

Oh, okay! Happy learning! NVDA is good. I use both.Jaws and NVDA. Here's
more if you want to know. If you want to go to your system ttrey. With NVDA
It's windows B. Don't ask me why that is. I wished like Jaws it's insert F
11

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher
Sent: February-23-17 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi Arlene,

JAWS is my primary screen reader, and I do not have any issues with it. I
am trying to learn NVDA.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi, Do you have another back up screen reader to rectify your problem? If
you do, then try your back up screen reader and see if you have that same
problem! If NVDA is your primary screen reader you are in trouble.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Louis
Maher
Sent: February-23-17 10:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?). When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them. I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both. I am now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

Re: TheBlaze Daily PM

Robert Mendoza
 

I would assume that she or he reads the email messages by pressing the arrow keys that could cause nvda to announced the blank lines mentioned. Otherwise, if you read thoroughly or loads to read nvda does not recognize this blank lines.

Robert Mendoza

On 2/24/2017 7:32 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
I don't know what method you use to read the email, but for me, when I open a message in thunderbird just by pressing enter on it, NVDA reads the whole message without me having to do anything at all.
And, it doesn't read blank lines.


Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Thanks Brenda for the suggestion.

Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brenda
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Have you tried a disk defragment and chkdsk. I find these have fix corrupt
file issues. doesn't hurt to try.


brenda


On 2/23/2017 1:48 PM, Louis Maher wrote:
Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?). When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them. I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both. I am
now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...






Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Hi Quentin,

 

The problem was that I had uninstalled MathPlayer, and that removed a component NVDA uses for browsers.  Reinstalling MathPlayer restored that unknown component, and now NVDA works with Firefox and Internet Explorer.

 

JAWS apparently does not use this unknown component.  Note that this unknown component is not part of NVDA because uninstalling NVDA and reinstalling NVDA does not fix this problem.

 

 

 

Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail: ljmaher@...

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

 

Hi Louis,

 

Someone else reported a similar thing and noted the solution for them was to alt+tab away from Firefox and back.  It's not an ideal solution obviously, but I'd be curious to see if that helped.  That issue is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5550

 

There's another bug for a similar thing, saying "unknown" after reading the page title.  Often (in the case of this user), waiting a moment after that, NVDA would go on to read the page: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4882

 

Finally, another problem that can cause this if it's happening in all browsers, is it could be a system component.  This thread has a number of ideas: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807

 

Finally, if you could get the log file to send to me that might help too.  Info on the log file available here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:48 AM, Louis Maher <ljmaher@...> wrote:

Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?).  When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them.  I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both.  I am now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...






 

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Re: Windows 10 Mail app

Chris Mullins
 

Thank you for your responses to this issue and to David for an excellent write-up.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: 23 February 2017 18:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail app

 

Hi Chris

 

There is a tutorial written on this program it was written by David.

 

At present it is when you type say in a email you can not hear what you have typed, but you can review with the left and right arrow keys etc. if i remember also it will also read out all when a say all is done.

 

 

I think i was reading some where on the list in a few weeks or maybe a month ther eis a new insider build that people on windows 10 will get and those problems will be fixed. 

 

any how if you are interested in the tutorial it can be found at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

 

You willl then need to jump down by headings to the tutorial called how to use the windows 10 mail app or something like that.

 

please note it also says about those bugs i mentioned.

 

hope it helps.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 24/02/2017 12:02 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

Does anyone on the list use the built-in mail app in Windows 10 and if so, I would welcome your advice re accessibility.  I have no sight and rely on voice feedback only.

 

Cheers

Chris



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Re: TheBlaze Daily PM

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

I don't know what method you use to read the email, but for me, when I open a message in thunderbird just by pressing enter on it, NVDA reads the whole message without me having to do anything at all.
And, it doesn't read blank lines.

Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Louis,

Someone else reported a similar thing and noted the solution for them was to alt+tab away from Firefox and back.  It's not an ideal solution obviously, but I'd be curious to see if that helped.  That issue is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5550

There's another bug for a similar thing, saying "unknown" after reading the page title.  Often (in the case of this user), waiting a moment after that, NVDA would go on to read the page: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4882

Finally, another problem that can cause this if it's happening in all browsers, is it could be a system component.  This thread has a number of ideas: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807

Finally, if you could get the log file to send to me that might help too.  Info on the log file available here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:48 AM, Louis Maher <ljmaher@...> wrote:
Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?).  When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them.  I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both.  I am now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...








--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
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Twitter: @NVAccess 

Re: LibreOffice again

Quentin Christensen
 

I can try and promote it internally.  What would also help is if you can make sure that you have filed issues on our issue tracker for any problems you encounter.  One reason that many Word and Excel bugs are being fixed at the moment is that I recently wrote the NVDA training material for Word, and I'm currently working on Excel.  Through that process, I've been systematically trying most functions of those programs and so encountering many of the bugs with accessing features that were there.  I spent a lot more time than I anticipated reporting bugs, in that case to Microsoft as well as on our issue tracker, but knowing they exist means they can be assigned a priority, and hopefully fixed.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 10:06 PM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io <wsautodidata@...> wrote:
Hi,

A new version of NVDA.

Many fixes and enhancements related to Excel and Word.

But...

And LibreOffice?

When will it get some attention?

All "annoyances", to not say plain incompatibilities, are still there.

Very sad!








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Re: Strange behavior in Gmail

Arnþór Helgason
 

Thanks a lot.
I forgot to mention that this happens when I am in Thunderbird.
The Windowskey +up arrow works perfectly and has obviously solved my problem.

Best regards from Iceland,

Arnthor Helgason

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Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Brenda <bjnite@...>
 

Have you tried a disk defragment and chkdsk. I find these have fix corrupt file issues. doesn't hurt to try.


brenda

On 2/23/2017 1:48 PM, Louis Maher wrote:
Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
(51.?). When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
used them. I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both. I am now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...





Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Louis Maher <ljmaher@...>
 

Gene,

I put MathPlayher back, and now everything works.

Thanks for reminding me about this conversation.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Come to think of it as well when i had maths player when it first came out
after i uninstalled it i got a problem like that. at the time the only fix
was to reinstall the maths player again then things went back to normal. Not
sure if the bug has been fixed in a update to it as i did not reinstall it
after that as it is some thing i may not use.


Gene nz



On 24/02/2017 10:29 AM, Louis Maher wrote:
Thank you Gene.

I now remember this discussion in the past. I believe the problem
came from removing MathPlayer which I have done in the past few months.

I tried the procedure listed below, and the problem persists in
Firefox and Internet Explorer.

Perhaps I will try Edge.

Thanks for your help.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Hi Louis


I had some thing similar a while ago. it happened in mozilla thunder
bird as well as in mozilla fire fox.


When you went into mozilla fire fox even if you tabbed tried using
arrow keys single letter navigation keys etc it would also say
unknown. Plus the menus up the top would not work.


usually if the menus did not show you could use the f11 key to bring
them back but not in this case. So would get unknown in both programs.


it seemed some how some settings in mozilla fire fox had got corrupted

I can not remember if it happened in other programs i think they were
the only ones.


The way i was able to fix it was



I uninstalled mozilla fire fox from the add/remove programs section in
windows it might be called some thing else in other versions of windows.
it can be found under the control panel section.


When it has been done then Press the windows key + letter R to bring
up the run dialogue, then type in the following %appdata% then press
the enter key.


it will give you a list of folders and you will need to find the one
for mozilla

it will need to be deleted all together.


.


please note it will delete all of your settings then reinstall mozilla
fire fox, it then fixed the problem.

I also did the same as you did with nvda i uninstalled it from add
remove section and also did the other by pressing the Windows key +
letter R then typing in %appdata% then pressing the enter key,
locating the nvda folder and deleting it out then reinstalling nvda.
it was not NVDA that caused it but the other mozilla setting that i
removed.

All has been good for months.

it may or may not be the same problem.

I thought about putting how to do this up on my website under the
trouble shooting section for nvda but only have heard it happen now
and again.

Gene nz

On 24/02/2017 7:48 AM, Louis Maher wrote:
Folks,

Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access
Firefox (51.?). When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said
unknown when I used them. I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and
re-installed both. I am
now
on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...




--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA
tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date
with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook
by visiting the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader
available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries