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Re: failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices

Vicki <vwherry4@...>
 

Now that's interesting because I haven't done a registry clean in quite awhile, so I think I will do that first because I did install the program and have uninstalled it in order to try again.

Thanks.

Vicki

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Subject: Re: [nvda] failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices


Has anything been run like for example a registry cleaner? There were issues about getting the 32 bit and 64 bit parts mixed up I seem to recall, but the web site seems to suggest it will work on 10, it certainly does on 7.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicki" <vwherry4@comcast.net>
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 7:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices


A few days ago I asked about installing Microsoft Speech Platform voices.

The synthesizer shows up in my list of options, but when I select it, I get an error message telling me that it cannot be loaded.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Vicki



Re: How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

 

Thanks Chris. It worked!
Nevzat

On 10/10/17, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi
I do not have a problemmaking Acrobat DC the default ap for pdf files. Try
doing the following:
1. Press Windows+i, tab into the list of categories, arrow to 'apps' and
press spacebar
2. Press tab once, then down arrow once and press spacebar on 'Default
apps'
3. Tab down to 'Set defaults by app' and press spacebar
4. In this control panel dialog, press tab once to get into list of apps,
then use down arrow to find 'Acrobat DC', when located, tab to and use
spacebar to activate either ' 'Set this program as default', which will set
Acrobat DC as default for all filetypes it can handle or 'Choose filetypes
for this program', which will open another dialog in which you can choose
from a list of Acrobat DC filetypes and save the settings.
5. Tab to Ok and exit the dialog, Press alt+f4 to exit control panel, then
alt+f4 to exit Settings.

Cheers
Chris



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nevzat
Adil
Sent: 10 October 2017 12:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

The problem of Edge opening PDF files is that if there are edit boxes in the
file they do not appear. I tried one with edit boxes and I could not write
in them with edge, but with Acrobat Reader DC I could.
The way to go wround this is to use the application key and open the file in
Acrobat Reader DC otherwise Edge will kick in by default.
Windows was never as aggressive as in 10.

On 10/10/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Bing is ok, its just we have no choice.

I have gotten round with bing 2 google converters but yeah anything
you search from that pesky search box goes to bing.

Everything else works fine though.




On 10/10/2017 9:37 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes I hate bing. I could not find a legal way to alter it either.
However in some circumstances it can be handy to have more than one
browser running of course, but I just found Edge changed things for
no good reason other than because they decided they would.
I was hoping when I get my next win 10 machine that this might be
optional behaviour by then.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files


It's not a question of fixing anything. Windows 10 forces certain
things to display using Edge. The user intentionally isn't given a
choice. Microsoft didn't give away Windows for a year for nothing.
Nothing is free. This is to Microsoft's advantage, because they can
charge more to those who advertise on the Windows search feature
using Edge to display results.

As I recall, if you use cortana, (spelling) for searches, Edge is
forced to be used and Bing.

Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files


Have they fixed that windows 10 issue where certain parts of windows
uses edge even if you use another browser by default, yet?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Nevzat Adil"
<nevzatadil@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files


Thanks Gene. It worked. I forgot to say my default browser is Firefox.
Nevzat

On 10/9/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
hi


the first thing i would do is in the defaults apps change the
browser from edge to another one. that should stop it from opening
in edge.


use the windows key + letter I then go to apps press enter key then
down to default apps. Locate the browser and change it from edge to
another if on there.


the next thing i would do is locate the pdf document then use the
applications key. Arrow down to open with adobe dc reader then
press the enter key It may give you the option to keep it as
default.


It not there it should give you the option to choose another app
then press the enter key. Under the list there pick adobe dc reader
then the next time you tab it will give you the option a check box
to use that program every time make sure it is checked then tab
down to ok and press the enter key.


Now you should be right.


hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 10/10/2017 10:47 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:

Hello everyone,

I have no idea how it happened, but for sometime now Microsoft Edge
reads my PDF files instead of Acrobat Reader DC, something I do not
caer for.
I'd like to set Acrobat Reader DC as my default reader for PDF files.
Will someone instruct me how to do this?
My screen reader is NVDA and OS Windows 10.
Thanks.
Nevzat





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Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

Gene
 

I can only tell you that I think you would have sound since the external device has no relation with the driver used for the internal one.  I'm by no means an expert so, while that is what I think is likely, you may want to wait for other answers. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

Hi Gene, I have a similar-ish situation. My Asus laptop uses Realtec HD audio, and when I try and plug in an external speaker or headphones it wants to run a device configuration program, which is not in the slightest bit accessible.

I asked on an Asus forum and the advice was to uninstall the Realtec HD drivers and replace them with the more basic driver that is available on the Realtec website.

Obviously at the point I uninstall the problematic driver I'll loose all sound for installing the suggested driver.

If I get myself one of those USB soundcards, should I then be able to hear NVDA again while I do the driver installation?

My sighted assistance is not very comfortable with anything more complex than emailing :)

It's not a priority because I don't often have the need to use headphones with my laptop, but if there's a way I could then I'd like to do it.

This is the forum thread if that's any help https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/416243/accessibility+problem+with+Realtek+HD+audio+manager

Thanks,

Giles


Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

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Probably both! :-)

Brian

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From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003


Um... erudite or luddite?

Antony.

On Tuesday 10 October 2017 at 18:59:03, Brian wrote:

I'm a bit of erudite as well. I enjoy playing with new stuff, but if I'm
trying to get stuff done the muscle memory used for reading emails and
other stuff takes a lot to relearn so why bother when its still working.
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Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

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The problem is I think that none of this will now work.
I never did see that issue ever work in xp, only later versions of windows.

Presumably the drivers need to have the correct monitoring and if the drivers are gone then nothing will work. It may well be a usb approach that might break this if the plug and play is still functioning and xp knows of a driver.
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From: "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard


Hi Giles

Have you tried accessing the configuration program with Narrator? Also, does your laptop have a single headphone/microphone socket which when you plug something into it asks if it is a microphone or headphones, so it knows if it’s being used for input or output?



Cheers

Chris



Cheers

Chris



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: 10 October 2017 16:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard



Hi Gene, I have a similar-ish situation. My Asus laptop uses Realtec HD audio, and when I try and plug in an external speaker or headphones it wants to run a device configuration program, which is not in the slightest bit accessible.

I asked on an Asus forum and the advice was to uninstall the Realtec HD drivers and replace them with the more basic driver that is available on the Realtec website.

Obviously at the point I uninstall the problematic driver I'll loose all sound for installing the suggested driver.

If I get myself one of those USB soundcards, should I then be able to hear NVDA again while I do the driver installation?

My sighted assistance is not very comfortable with anything more complex than emailing :)

It's not a priority because I don't often have the need to use headphones with my laptop, but if there's a way I could then I'd like to do it.

This is the forum thread if that's any help https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/416243/accessibility+problem+with+Realtek+HD+audio+manager

Thanks,

Giles


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I do not seem to be able to even use spellcheck, It asks whether I want to start from the top but that dialogue is only spoken by using object nav and the mis spelled word seems to be a blank field.
Very odd.

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Re: Resilio Sync Service?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Bobby,


This computer ID you are talking about: is this something that you are assigned by the program; do you make it up yourself or is it something you find under system information?


Thanks for any help.



On 10/10/2017 11:17 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

The link for sync thing is www.syncthing.net.  What you have to do is add a folder that you are ssharing than add a computer id butt it has to be the computer id of the person you are sharing with than you have to send the key and computer id as well.  You can sync files and fiolders between folders.  Hope this helps

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Casey
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resilio Sync Service?

 

Hi can you pass along A down load for sync thing.

And instructions on how to use it.

Like once you get it and install it what can you use it for and how do you use it on files?

That you get in your e-mail?

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 11:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resilio Sync Service?

 

Well I don’t like resilio sync service at all because you have to get a computer pass word to use it.  Butt You should try sync thing.  Sync thing is just like bittorrent sync butt it is web based and you down load it as a zip file and just install it as a portible version.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Earle Zwicker
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resilio Sync Service?

 

How did you get resillio to work in Windows? I haven't had any luck with it. The only way I could get it to work was to set it up as a service.

 

Earle

 

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> On Oct 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:

>

> Hi folks.

>

> I got it working under windows.

>

> I'm using the web GUI, but there are a few things confusing me on the local page.

>

> Anyone else use this?

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 


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Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Giles               

Have you tried accessing the configuration program with Narrator?  Also, does your laptop have a single headphone/microphone socket which when you plug something into it asks if it is a microphone or headphones, so it knows if it’s being used for input or output?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: 10 October 2017 16:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

 

Hi Gene, I have a similar-ish situation. My Asus laptop uses Realtec HD audio, and when I try and plug in an external speaker or headphones it wants to run a device configuration program, which is not in the slightest bit accessible.

I asked on an Asus forum and the advice was to uninstall the Realtec HD drivers and replace them with the more basic driver that is available on the Realtec website.

Obviously at the point I uninstall the problematic driver I'll loose all sound for installing the suggested driver.

If I get myself one of those USB soundcards, should I then be able to hear NVDA again while I do the driver installation?

My sighted assistance is not very comfortable with anything more complex than emailing :)

It's not a priority because I don't often have the need to use headphones with my laptop, but if there's a way I could then I'd like to do it.

This is the forum thread if that's any help https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/416243/accessibility+problem+with+Realtek+HD+audio+manager

Thanks,

Giles


Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

 

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 09:56 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
A lot, and I do mean a lot, of people still do not like ribbons
So.  Ribbons are here to stay and have nothing to do with the issue of outdated software.

I don't like the ribbons as much as I liked menu driven systems.  I had to suck it up and learn it, because my personal preferences do not rule the world and it's obvious that I am not on "the winning side" of the ribbons design decision.  The same applies to the beloved "identities" of Outlook Express.

Those who refuse to eventually acknowledge that they must go with the flow will be drowned.  I really have no patience with that attitude after a certain point, and that point is long past for me when it comes to Windows XP, Outlook Express, and other hangers on to long defunct software.  There are other options, and many of them free, for most of these things.  It's not the job of the rest of the world to try to hold ancient technology together with the proverbial spit and baling wire.  If someone is absolutely stuck in a situation where they have no choice that's one thing, but that's not the typical case.

Saying that "it's only recently that issues cropped up with . . ." is also not relevant.  There come clear tipping points, and when talking about software in excess of 15 years old one should presume that the tipping point has been reached.
 
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Re: How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
I do not have a problemmaking Acrobat DC the default ap for pdf files. Try doing the following:
1. Press Windows+i, tab into the list of categories, arrow to 'apps' and press spacebar
2. Press tab once, then down arrow once and press spacebar on 'Default apps'
3. Tab down to 'Set defaults by app' and press spacebar
4. In this control panel dialog, press tab once to get into list of apps, then use down arrow to find 'Acrobat DC', when located, tab to and use spacebar to activate either ' 'Set this program as default', which will set Acrobat DC as default for all filetypes it can handle or 'Choose filetypes for this program', which will open another dialog in which you can choose from a list of Acrobat DC filetypes and save the settings.
5. Tab to Ok and exit the dialog, Press alt+f4 to exit control panel, then alt+f4 to exit Settings.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Nevzat Adil
Sent: 10 October 2017 12:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

The problem of Edge opening PDF files is that if there are edit boxes in the file they do not appear. I tried one with edit boxes and I could not write in them with edge, but with Acrobat Reader DC I could.
The way to go wround this is to use the application key and open the file in Acrobat Reader DC otherwise Edge will kick in by default.
Windows was never as aggressive as in 10.

On 10/10/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Bing is ok, its just we have no choice.

I have gotten round with bing 2 google converters but yeah anything
you search from that pesky search box goes to bing.

Everything else works fine though.




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Yes I hate bing. I could not find a legal way to alter it either.
However in some circumstances it can be handy to have more than one
browser running of course, but I just found Edge changed things for
no good reason other than because they decided they would.
I was hoping when I get my next win 10 machine that this might be
optional behaviour by then.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files


It's not a question of fixing anything. Windows 10 forces certain
things to display using Edge. The user intentionally isn't given a
choice. Microsoft didn't give away Windows for a year for nothing.
Nothing is free. This is to Microsoft's advantage, because they can
charge more to those who advertise on the Windows search feature
using Edge to display results.

As I recall, if you use cortana, (spelling) for searches, Edge is
forced to be used and Bing.

Gene
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files


Have they fixed that windows 10 issue where certain parts of windows
uses edge even if you use another browser by default, yet?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Nevzat Adil"
<nevzatadil@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files


Thanks Gene. It worked. I forgot to say my default browser is Firefox.
Nevzat

On 10/9/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
hi


the first thing i would do is in the defaults apps change the
browser from edge to another one. that should stop it from opening
in edge.


use the windows key + letter I then go to apps press enter key then
down to default apps. Locate the browser and change it from edge to
another if on there.


the next thing i would do is locate the pdf document then use the
applications key. Arrow down to open with adobe dc reader then
press the enter key It may give you the option to keep it as
default.


It not there it should give you the option to choose another app
then press the enter key. Under the list there pick adobe dc reader
then the next time you tab it will give you the option a check box
to use that program every time make sure it is checked then tab
down to ok and press the enter key.


Now you should be right.


hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 10/10/2017 10:47 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:

Hello everyone,

I have no idea how it happened, but for sometime now Microsoft Edge
reads my PDF files instead of Acrobat Reader DC, something I do not
caer for.
I'd like to set Acrobat Reader DC as my default reader for PDF files.
Will someone instruct me how to do this?
My screen reader is NVDA and OS Windows 10.
Thanks.
Nevzat





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out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
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Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

Antony Stone
 

Um... erudite or luddite?

Antony.

On Tuesday 10 October 2017 at 18:59:03, Brian wrote:

I'm a bit of erudite as well. I enjoy playing with new stuff, but if I'm
trying to get stuff done the muscle memory used for reading emails and
other stuff takes a lot to relearn so why bother when its still working.
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Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

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it is recent, nvda 2017.2.
Sakina on this lisst has the same issue. I emailed her with the plain text work around the other day, but not sure if she has found the right setting. Can somebody with this version of Outlook tell me exactly the route to change it to plain text and I'll forward it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <chrismedley@btinternet.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003


Hmm, this must have happened recently
Up until april I was running office 2003 with no issues and fully up to date

If you haven’t already done so make sure your copy of office 2003 has all the latest updates applied and service pack 3



From: Michel Such
Sent: 10 October 2017 12:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

Hi all,


Does NVDA 2017.3 always support Outlook 2003?

Someone reports me that Outlook systematically crashes when trying to
open a message, even with all addons disabled.

As I never used this software, I cannot help more.

Any idea?



--


Michel Such


Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

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Its odd that it works with Jaws as I was told it had more to do with how the code has to be hooked by screenreaders now that was crashing the html part of the system. If Jaws is using a different way, then it might be interesting to find out how.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Such" <michel.such@free.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003


Hi, it seems to work fine with Jaws, but it fails with at least NVDA
2017.2 and 2017.3.



Le 2017-10-10 à 14:08, Gene a écrit :
The person should test the program with another screen-reader such as
a JAWS demo or even Narrator. At this point, there is no way to know
if NVDA has anything to do with the crash. I don't know if Narrator
will read much of anything in the program but it should be possible to
open a message and see if the program crashes.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@free.fr>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:14 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

Hi all,


Does NVDA 2017.3 always support Outlook 2003?

Someone reports me that Outlook systematically crashes when trying to
open a message, even with all addons disabled.

As I never used this software, I cannot help more.

Any idea?



--


Michel Such



--


Michel Such


Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

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I'm a bit of erudite as well. I enjoy playing with new stuff, but if I'm trying to get stuff done the muscle memory used for reading emails and other stuff takes a lot to relearn so why bother when its still working.
Brian

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From: "Sylvie Duchateau" <sduchateau@access42.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003


Hello Brian and all,
Thank you for your suggestion!
My contact displayed e-mails in text format instead of HTML and OUtlook
works again.
It is not the best solution but with this workaround she can read her
mail without Outlook crashing.
Thank you again!
Best
Sylvie
Le 10/10/2017 à 13:31, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
You are right, at least two people have reported this. I am told the work around is to get into the outlook 2003 options and select view all messages as text or similar. of course this stops html links working and may need the read all command to read a message.
Not using that software here, but would be interested in finding out if this work around works.

I think it is a sad fact that in hooking the later versions of ms html and how its achieved it does crash programs still attempting to use ms html in the old way. of course Microsoft no longer support the older versions of office so you would be unlikely to find them fixing this.
Another way may be to go back to nvda 2016.4, but if this outlook is running on windows ten, then you will lose functionality elsewhere by doing this.
At least that is my understanding of the issue.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Michel Such" <michel.such@free.fr>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003


Hi all,


Does NVDA 2017.3 always support Outlook 2003?

Someone reports me that Outlook systematically crashes when trying to open a message, even with all addons disabled.

As I never used this software, I cannot help more.

Any idea?



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Michel Such






Re: NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I have already said this but I do have some sympathy as I still use Outlook Express and there is no current client that works the same way and is accessible unless oeclassic has moved on in leaps and bounds since I last tried it. Sadly Tbird and its ilk still uses a tree with all accounts in it, not little compartmements like the identities of Outlook Express.

I feel that its one of those rare programs, a good design but for some reason nobody else does.


I have run this on 10, but it gets trashed on major updates, so I use its adapted version on 7 and am happy as the app module in nvda still works well with it.

It seldom crashes and can do usenet all in the same interface.
As for Outlook which is part of Office. A lot, and I do mean a lot, of people still do not like ribbons and many had this software when their machine was running 7, and have been running it since with no trouble. its only recently that issues have arisen with it.


I think if we all lived in a perfect world then fine but we do not and do not all have much money either.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2017.3 and Outlook 2003


On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 07:41 am, Gene wrote:


Does the person need to use Outlook?
Or, if they want Outlook (and some do), Outlook 2003?

Every time I, or anyone else, suggest that it's long past time to update and/or change software we tend to get trounced for doing so. There are lots of free e-mail client programs that are being actively maintained that do not have these issues.

Even with patches, Outlook 2003 is over 15 years in the rear window and, given the trends in Windows 10 and what screen readers are having to do to keep current, backward compatibility cannot be maintained perpetually and won't be.

Software does have a fixed expected service life and there does come a time where updating to the next generation or switching to a currently maintained alternative is the best course of action. This is one of them.
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Re: Resilio Sync Service?

Sarah k Alawami
 

There is a blog article I wrote at tffppodcast.com I made sure to make it sticky, I hope. If not go o the search bar and type sync and you should be able to find it. I'vehad peopel lose patience and want me to email them 29 gig zip files. I think not.

Take care all.

On Oct 10, 2017, at 8:17 AM, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

The link for sync thing is www.syncthing.net.  What you have to do is add a folder that you are ssharing than add a computer id butt it has to be the computer id of the person you are sharing with than you have to send the key and computer id as well.  You can sync files and fiolders between folders.  Hope this helps
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Casey
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 9:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resilio Sync Service?
 
Hi can you pass along A down load for sync thing.
And instructions on how to use it.
Like once you get it and install it what can you use it for and how do you use it on files?
That you get in your e-mail?
 
 
 
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 11:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resilio Sync Service?
 
Well I don’t like resilio sync service at all because you have to get a computer pass word to use it.  Butt You should try sync thing.  Sync thing is just like bittorrent sync butt it is web based and you down load it as a zip file and just install it as a portible version.
 
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From: Earle Zwicker
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resilio Sync Service?
 
How did you get resillio to work in Windows? I haven't had any luck with it. The only way I could get it to work was to set it up as a service.
 
Earle
 
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> On Oct 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> I got it working under windows.
> 
> I'm using the web GUI, but there are a few things confusing me on the local page.
> 
> Anyone else use this?
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
 
 

 


Re: PDF Secured files

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Does it also work in the pdf reader from webbie?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Akbar S. Currim" <raahzam@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] PDF Secured files


When I open the file it says the name of the file followed by the word
"secured" and acrobat reader dc.

I tried it in FireFox and there it opens fine and I can read it but
not so in Acrobat Reader.

Thanks,

Akbar


On 10/10/17, Chris <chrismedley@btinternet.com> wrote:
Ok, is it the document or adobe acrobat?
Try opening the pdf document with another pdf reader, edge will do if you
have nothing else



From: Akbar S. Currim
Sent: 10 October 2017 13:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PDF Secured files

Hi all,

Could someone please help. I have a pdf file and when I try to read
it in Acrobat reader DC I get a message that it is secured and I am
unable to read it. How can I read this file? Using NVDA17.3 Win 10.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Akbar





Re: Resilio Sync Service?

Matt Turner
 

Yep, that's how i did it.

On 10/9/2017 11:52 PM, Earle Zwicker wrote:
How did you get resillio to work in Windows? I haven't had any luck with it. The only way I could get it to work was to set it up as a service.

Earle

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks.

I got it working under windows.

I'm using the web GUI, but there are a few things confusing me on the local page.

Anyone else use this?




Re: PDF Secured files

Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...>
 

When I open the file it says the name of the file followed by the word
"secured" and acrobat reader dc.

I tried it in FireFox and there it opens fine and I can read it but
not so in Acrobat Reader.

Thanks,

Akbar

On 10/10/17, Chris <chrismedley@btinternet.com> wrote:
Ok, is it the document or adobe acrobat?
Try opening the pdf document with another pdf reader, edge will do if you
have nothing else



From: Akbar S. Currim
Sent: 10 October 2017 13:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] PDF Secured files

Hi all,

Could someone please help. I have a pdf file and when I try to read
it in Acrobat reader DC I get a message that it is secured and I am
unable to read it. How can I read this file? Using NVDA17.3 Win 10.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and regards,

Akbar





Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi Gene, I have a similar-ish situation. My Asus laptop uses Realtec HD audio, and when I try and plug in an external speaker or headphones it wants to run a device configuration program, which is not in the slightest bit accessible.

I asked on an Asus forum and the advice was to uninstall the Realtec HD drivers and replace them with the more basic driver that is available on the Realtec website.

Obviously at the point I uninstall the problematic driver I'll loose all sound for installing the suggested driver.

If I get myself one of those USB soundcards, should I then be able to hear NVDA again while I do the driver installation?

My sighted assistance is not very comfortable with anything more complex than emailing :)

It's not a priority because I don't often have the need to use headphones with my laptop, but if there's a way I could then I'd like to do it.

This is the forum thread if that's any help https://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/416243/accessibility+problem+with+Realtek+HD+audio+manager

Thanks,

Giles