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Re: NVDA URGENT PROBLEM

Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,


I can duplicate the issue with Excel. NVDA is ultra sluggish in Excel. I type a value into a cell and then hit enter or the right arrow and NVDA appears to lock up. There is no speech. I have to wait 2 to 3 minutes for speech to be restored. I can then type another value and then the process repeats. I was able to navigate the back stage view without problems. I am using Windows version 1703 (OS Build 15063.296)

 

I am running office 2016 and have the office 365 subscription.

 

Pranav


Looking for an old modle of braille display, anny help?

Fernando Apan
 

Hi all,

I have a braille embosser that still works with windows Xp, and I'm trying to buy a used braille display in good conditions, 40 characters and LPT or USB port only, to work with my XP machine revising and editing braille music.

If anyone knows about someone trying to sell a braille display with this features I'll deeply appreciate your help.

If you have any advise or suggestions please contact me at:

ferapan@...

Respectfully,


Fernando Apan.


Re: AVAST

Gene
 

The description says nothing about filling out a captcha but you have to be in Safe Mode to run the uninstaller. 
 
There is a way to get NVDA to run and speak in Safe Mode but others will have to discuss that further. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] AVAST

check out this link for a free Avast removal tool
https://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility

On 5/11/2017 7:24 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
>
> Can not uninstall AVAST. Went to control and prgramprogram and features
> did uninstall but did not remove it. Went to setting, app and tab to
> select AVAST tab to uninstall. Still there. Help.
> Holger Fiallo
>



Re: Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA

Gene
 

The only reason automatic reading of the sort you describe occurs is because in some instances, NVDA automatically uses read to end when something opens.  You are using read to end in all of the examples you discuss.  But are you saying you let web pages read, link after link and whatever else is at the top of pages before articles begin?  It's hard to believe.  If not when you move to what you want to read, how do you read?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA

Static or not, Chrome reads pages for me when they come up, thunderbird reads new messages as they come up, winrar reads filenames when I arrow to them, the dos prompt reads automatically, the ssh client I use reads automatically as well.  The only thing that doesn't read automatically (and I suppose I could fix that if it bothered me enough) is notepad when I open txt files using notepad.  Otherwise, I never use the screen review mode unless I need to see something that already went past, and in most cases, I only use that if I need to leave the speech cursor somewhere other than the active cursor location, for times when I need to type something and don't know how to spell it without looking.  90 percent of the time, I leave NVDA in object review mode, and NVDA speaks things automatically, and if I miss something, I simply move around the screen using the cursor navigation keys to get to things without ever leaving object review mode. 


On 5/11/2017 6:26 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what would be involved in doing this.  I have long maintained that NVDA should have such a feature.  At this point, there are only specific interfaces where NVDA is set to do this, such as in the DOS prompt and evidently, in some mud programs and certain other contexts.  But the user can't control this as a general setting.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA

Thanks.

Most things such as web pages, emails, Word
documents, are static, in that the text just
appears once and you NVDA navigate to it using
the keyboard.

Theoretically, should NVDA have a mode where
it just reads everything on the page that
newly appears?

I suppose this only would apply to text games,
where text is dynamically appearing.



-----Original Message-----
>From: Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...>
>Sent: May 11, 2017 1:13 AM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA
>
>You need a plugin which supports NVDA.
>This page should get you going.
>https://allinaccess.com/mc/
>
>Download MushReader from there.
>On 5/10/2017 11:08 PM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
>> I am using the MUSH Client, which is of course a windows
>> based client.
>>
>> You type commands in the bottom of the screen where your
>> cursor is, and the text from the MUD itself appears in
>> the window above.
>>
>> NVDA does not read anything in that MUD window as it appears,
>> and I'm not sure how you would get it to do so.
>>
>> If you're using a LINUX client, your experience is
>> probably very different, as you say.
>>
>> Perhaps you could give me advice on using NVDA with Mush
>> or other Windows clients?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
>>> Sent: May 10, 2017 11:41 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA
>>>
>>> I'm a little puzzled by what you're saying here.
>>>
>>> NVDA always reads text in real time.  I don't know exactly what you're
>>> experiencing, (perhaps it's the client you're using), but I don't have
>>> to touch the nvda review mode or move the cursor around at all (unless I
>>> want to see something that already printed), everything reads just fine
>>> when it comes from the mud, no configuration of NVDA is necessary.  Now,
>>> if you're using a mud client that isn't speech friendly, I could see
>>> where you might be having trouble.  Me personally, I tend to connect to
>>> my linux box first, then use either muddle or tintin depending on what
>>> I'm connecting to, and how long I plan to be connected, since muddle is
>>> my favorite client, but it's limited on capabilities, I tend to use it
>>> only when I don'[t plan to be logged in very long.  If I'm likely to be
>>> logged in for any length of time, I'll use tintin, because it has better
>>> capabilities, though I've not actually made it as full featured as I'd
>>> like, there's still a lot of things it misses that muddle catches, but
>>> it does have a gag feature which muddle doesn't, and I've not added one
>>> yet, so I tend to use those two, and don't bother with windows clients.
>>> I've tried a few, but honestly, I've been mudding since the early 90s,
>>> and I have yet to find a windows client that works the way I want, so I
>>> tend to avoid them.  Sure, some of them are nice, especially mushZ, but
>>> when I'm playing a mud, I'm not really all that interested in full audio
>>> immersion, so I tend to stick to my command line linux-based clients and
>>> just go on and do my thing and stay out of all discussion on clients,
>>> since I'm probably the only one that ever uses muddle, and although
>>> there are folks using tintin, I don't think the total is more than a
>>> percentage point or two of all total users, so I'm definitely in the
>>> minority.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2017 9:33 PM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
>>>> A lot of quick reactions are required sometimes in a MUD.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to make it read the text in real time
>>>> as it first appears on the screen?
>>>>
>>>> Or are you manually navigating to each paragraph yourself
>>>> with the NVDA keyboard commands?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
>>>>> Sent: May 9, 2017 10:59 PM
>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing to optimize.  NVDA reads the text coming across the screen just
>>>>> fine.  If you don't want to see everything, then use a client that has
>>>>> gag capabilities, then you can repress certain text strings, so you
>>>>> don't see them.  Most muds also have various settings you can use to cut
>>>>> down on the amount of spam you receive, especially during battle.
>>>>> Nothing special needed to mud using NVDA, it works just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/9/2017 10:42 PM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone here play text adventures such as MUD's? (Multi User Dungeons)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, is there a way to optimize NVDA with a MUD Client
>>>>>> to read the text as it scrolls in the game?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for any advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




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Re: AVAST

Gene
 

I suspect you need sighted help to run the tool.  I haven't checked but these sorts of tools usually have some protection so that malware can't develop ways to take advantage of them.  You may find a captcha when you work with the tool.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] AVAST

check out this link for a free Avast removal tool
https://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility

On 5/11/2017 7:24 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
>
> Can not uninstall AVAST. Went to control and prgramprogram and features
> did uninstall but did not remove it. Went to setting, app and tab to
> select AVAST tab to uninstall. Still there. Help.
> Holger Fiallo
>



Re: AVAST

Gene
 

When you toled Windows to uninstall Avast, what happened?  did anything come up or did nothing happen?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 7:24 PM
Subject: [nvda] AVAST

 

Can not uninstall AVAST. Went to control and prgramprogram and features did uninstall but did not remove it. Went to setting, app and tab to select AVAST tab to uninstall. Still there. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Static or not, Chrome reads pages for me when they come up, thunderbird reads new messages as they come up, winrar reads filenames when I arrow to them, the dos prompt reads automatically, the ssh client I use reads automatically as well.  The only thing that doesn't read automatically (and I suppose I could fix that if it bothered me enough) is notepad when I open txt files using notepad.  Otherwise, I never use the screen review mode unless I need to see something that already went past, and in most cases, I only use that if I need to leave the speech cursor somewhere other than the active cursor location, for times when I need to type something and don't know how to spell it without looking.  90 percent of the time, I leave NVDA in object review mode, and NVDA speaks things automatically, and if I miss something, I simply move around the screen using the cursor navigation keys to get to things without ever leaving object review mode. 


On 5/11/2017 6:26 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what would be involved in doing this.  I have long maintained that NVDA should have such a feature.  At this point, there are only specific interfaces where NVDA is set to do this, such as in the DOS prompt and evidently, in some mud programs and certain other contexts.  But the user can't control this as a general setting.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA

Thanks.

Most things such as web pages, emails, Word
documents, are static, in that the text just
appears once and you NVDA navigate to it using
the keyboard.

Theoretically, should NVDA have a mode where
it just reads everything on the page that
newly appears?

I suppose this only would apply to text games,
where text is dynamically appearing.



-----Original Message-----
>From: Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...>
>Sent: May 11, 2017 1:13 AM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA
>
>You need a plugin which supports NVDA.
>This page should get you going.
>https://allinaccess.com/mc/
>
>Download MushReader from there.
>On 5/10/2017 11:08 PM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
>> I am using the MUSH Client, which is of course a windows
>> based client.
>>
>> You type commands in the bottom of the screen where your
>> cursor is, and the text from the MUD itself appears in
>> the window above.
>>
>> NVDA does not read anything in that MUD window as it appears,
>> and I'm not sure how you would get it to do so.
>>
>> If you're using a LINUX client, your experience is
>> probably very different, as you say.
>>
>> Perhaps you could give me advice on using NVDA with Mush
>> or other Windows clients?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
>>> Sent: May 10, 2017 11:41 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA
>>>
>>> I'm a little puzzled by what you're saying here.
>>>
>>> NVDA always reads text in real time.  I don't know exactly what you're
>>> experiencing, (perhaps it's the client you're using), but I don't have
>>> to touch the nvda review mode or move the cursor around at all (unless I
>>> want to see something that already printed), everything reads just fine
>>> when it comes from the mud, no configuration of NVDA is necessary.  Now,
>>> if you're using a mud client that isn't speech friendly, I could see
>>> where you might be having trouble.  Me personally, I tend to connect to
>>> my linux box first, then use either muddle or tintin depending on what
>>> I'm connecting to, and how long I plan to be connected, since muddle is
>>> my favorite client, but it's limited on capabilities, I tend to use it
>>> only when I don'[t plan to be logged in very long.  If I'm likely to be
>>> logged in for any length of time, I'll use tintin, because it has better
>>> capabilities, though I've not actually made it as full featured as I'd
>>> like, there's still a lot of things it misses that muddle catches, but
>>> it does have a gag feature which muddle doesn't, and I've not added one
>>> yet, so I tend to use those two, and don't bother with windows clients.
>>> I've tried a few, but honestly, I've been mudding since the early 90s,
>>> and I have yet to find a windows client that works the way I want, so I
>>> tend to avoid them.  Sure, some of them are nice, especially mushZ, but
>>> when I'm playing a mud, I'm not really all that interested in full audio
>>> immersion, so I tend to stick to my command line linux-based clients and
>>> just go on and do my thing and stay out of all discussion on clients,
>>> since I'm probably the only one that ever uses muddle, and although
>>> there are folks using tintin, I don't think the total is more than a
>>> percentage point or two of all total users, so I'm definitely in the
>>> minority.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/2017 9:33 PM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
>>>> A lot of quick reactions are required sometimes in a MUD.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to make it read the text in real time
>>>> as it first appears on the screen?
>>>>
>>>> Or are you manually navigating to each paragraph yourself
>>>> with the NVDA keyboard commands?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
>>>>> Sent: May 9, 2017 10:59 PM
>>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Multi-User-Dungeons and NVDA
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing to optimize.  NVDA reads the text coming across the screen just
>>>>> fine.  If you don't want to see everything, then use a client that has
>>>>> gag capabilities, then you can repress certain text strings, so you
>>>>> don't see them.  Most muds also have various settings you can use to cut
>>>>> down on the amount of spam you receive, especially during battle.
>>>>> Nothing special needed to mud using NVDA, it works just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/9/2017 10:42 PM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone here play text adventures such as MUD's? (Multi User Dungeons)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so, is there a way to optimize NVDA with a MUD Client
>>>>>> to read the text as it scrolls in the game?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for any advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




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Re: nvda compatible firewall?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

heh, I used to use tiny personal firewall as well.  I haven't tried it lately, and it's likely it wouldn't work anyhow, but it was free, and free is good, especially considering how well it worked.



On 5/11/2017 5:25 PM, Pete wrote:
 
  Hi  Erik
  I used to use one called tiny personal also another one was kerio personal  both were usable with nvda. 
  Pete 



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Re: AVAST

Don H
 

check out this link for a free Avast removal tool
https://www.avast.com/uninstall-utility

On 5/11/2017 7:24 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
Can not uninstall AVAST. Went to control and prgramprogram and features did uninstall but did not remove it. Went to setting, app and tab to select AVAST tab to uninstall. Still there. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: start menu and programs

Quentin Christensen
 

Note if you press CONTROL+SHIFT+ESCAPE and can't control+tab between panes, press alt+d to access "more details". (the same shortcut then becomes "fewer details" to get back to the original minimal view).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hello!

If you open MSConfig and make Control+Tab untill StartUp, you will find a link to open Task Manager...
So, I gave the direct way...

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original----- De: Gene
Data: 12 de maio de 2017 00:14

Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


Are you saying there are two ways to control what runs at boot up, MSConfig and Task Manager, or are you saying that MSConfigt no longer can be used to control what runs?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

MSConfig still exists...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original----- De: Arlene
Data: 12 de maio de 2017 00:09
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Oh yeah? that's different! That is good to know. In ten there's no msconfig.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: May-11-17 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Hello!

In Windows 10 is not in MSConfig...

Press Control+shift+Escape.
Press Control+Tab untill Start.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original----- De: Gene
Data: 11 de maio de 2017 23:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


   I don't see any connection.  As far as I know, what is being asked about

is MSConfig.  I don't have Windows 10 so I won't explain the dialog as it is

in earlier versions.  I don't know if anything has changed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

search for desktop icons and hit enter.

On 5/11/2017 3:04 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

Hi all
In W7 there was away to check if some program started when the PC
started. There was away to go to the start menu and uncheck those
program that you did not want to run unless you did it. How can I do so
in W10? Using current W10, NVDA.
Holger Fiallo























--
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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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AVAST

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

 

Can not uninstall AVAST. Went to control and prgramprogram and features did uninstall but did not remove it. Went to setting, app and tab to select AVAST tab to uninstall. Still there. Help.
Holger Fiallo


Re: start menu and programs

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

If you open MSConfig and make Control+Tab untill StartUp, you will find a link to open Task Manager...
So, I gave the direct way...

Rui Fontes


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 12 de maio de 2017 00:14
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


Are you saying there are two ways to control what runs at boot up, MSConfig and Task Manager, or are you saying that MSConfigt no longer can be used to control what runs?

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

MSConfig still exists...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Arlene
Data: 12 de maio de 2017 00:09
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Oh yeah? that's different! That is good to know. In ten there's no msconfig.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: May-11-17 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Hello!

In Windows 10 is not in MSConfig...

Press Control+shift+Escape.
Press Control+Tab untill Start.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 11 de maio de 2017 23:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


I don't see any connection. As far as I know, what is being asked about

is MSConfig. I don't have Windows 10 so I won't explain the dialog as it is

in earlier versions. I don't know if anything has changed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

search for desktop icons and hit enter.

On 5/11/2017 3:04 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

Hi all
In W7 there was away to check if some program started when the PC
started. There was away to go to the start menu and uncheck those
program that you did not want to run unless you did it. How can I do so
in W10? Using current W10, NVDA.
Holger Fiallo


Re: start menu and programs

Gene
 

Are you saying there are two ways to control what runs at boot up, MSConfig and Task Manager, or are you saying that MSConfigt no longer can be used to control what runs?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

MSConfig still exists...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Arlene
Data: 12 de maio de 2017 00:09
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Oh yeah? that's different! That is good to know. In ten there's no msconfig.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: May-11-17 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Hello!

In Windows 10 is not in MSConfig...

Press Control+shift+Escape.
Press Control+Tab untill Start.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 11 de maio de 2017 23:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


    I don't see any connection.  As far as I know, what is being asked about

is MSConfig.  I don't have Windows 10 so I won't explain the dialog as it is

in earlier versions.  I don't know if anything has changed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

search for desktop icons and hit enter.

On 5/11/2017 3:04 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
>
> Hi all
> In W7 there was away to check if some program started when the PC
> started. There was away to go to the start menu and uncheck those
> program that you did not want to run unless you did it. How can I do so
> in W10? Using current W10, NVDA.
> Holger Fiallo
>









 




Re: start menu and programs

Arlene
 

Oh, is what you said in the previous message steps help get you there?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: May-11-17 4:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

MSConfig still exists...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Arlene
Data: 12 de maio de 2017 00:09
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Oh yeah? that's different! That is good to know. In ten there's no msconfig.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: May-11-17 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Hello!

In Windows 10 is not in MSConfig...

Press Control+shift+Escape.
Press Control+Tab untill Start.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 11 de maio de 2017 23:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


I don't see any connection. As far as I know, what is being asked about

is MSConfig. I don't have Windows 10 so I won't explain the dialog as it is

in earlier versions. I don't know if anything has changed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

search for desktop icons and hit enter.

On 5/11/2017 3:04 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

Hi all
In W7 there was away to check if some program started when the PC
started. There was away to go to the start menu and uncheck those
program that you did not want to run unless you did it. How can I do so
in W10? Using current W10, NVDA.
Holger Fiallo


Re: start menu and programs

Gene
 

Then what is being discussed is the Windows task manager if that is what it is called in Windows 10. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Hello!

In Windows 10 is not in MSConfig...

Press Control+shift+Escape.
Press Control+Tab untill Start.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 11 de maio de 2017 23:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


    I don't see any connection.  As far as I know, what is being asked about
is MSConfig.  I don't have Windows 10 so I won't explain the dialog as it is
in earlier versions.  I don't know if anything has changed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

search for desktop icons and hit enter.

On 5/11/2017 3:04 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
>
> Hi all
> In W7 there was away to check if some program started when the PC
> started. There was away to go to the start menu and uncheck those
> program that you did not want to run unless you did it. How can I do so
> in W10? Using current W10, NVDA.
> Holger Fiallo
>



 




Re: start menu and programs

Rui Fontes
 

MSConfig still exists...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Arlene
Data: 12 de maio de 2017 00:09
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Oh yeah? that's different! That is good to know. In ten there's no msconfig.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: May-11-17 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Hello!

In Windows 10 is not in MSConfig...

Press Control+shift+Escape.
Press Control+Tab untill Start.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 11 de maio de 2017 23:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


I don't see any connection. As far as I know, what is being asked about

is MSConfig. I don't have Windows 10 so I won't explain the dialog as it is

in earlier versions. I don't know if anything has changed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

search for desktop icons and hit enter.

On 5/11/2017 3:04 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

Hi all
In W7 there was away to check if some program started when the PC
started. There was away to go to the start menu and uncheck those
program that you did not want to run unless you did it. How can I do so
in W10? Using current W10, NVDA.
Holger Fiallo


Re: WinAmp

Gene
 

We'll see what others say.  There may be some problem with Winamp or how it runs on your system.  I've never heard of this problem before and I should have with all the people running Windows 10 and Winamp.  for now, if you type s do you hear anything such as on or off spoken? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp

       
 
From    : Gene
Sent: T    hursday, May 11, 2017 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [n        vda] WinAmp
Nothing. This is on W10. You indicated you do not have W10 correct. I can not even use default for WinAmp.
If you press alt and then f while you are holding alt, what happens?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp
 
                       
The reason I ask is because pressing alt key is not doing anything.
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp
 
The same way as always.  It's the same program.  The version of Windows doesn't matter.
 
 
I'll tell you the long way to help you learn how to find things in the program and then the short way.
 
Alt f, that is hold alt and type f to open the main menu.  All other menus are found in the menu as well as one or two other things.
So alt f, as I said.  Up arrow, it's faster, to options.  Press enter.
Down arrow through the options and you'll find various things such as shuffle and repeat.  Press enter on the one you want to turn it on.  If you want to turn it off later, find it and press enter again.
 
The short cut key, which you will hear if you let your screen-reader read everything when you get to the item is s.  S toggles shuffle on and off while you are in the main window.  R toggles repeat on and off. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp
 
   
Got a question for you. In WinAmp if I press alt the menu open and if I use arrow down I could select whether it play in order sor huffle. How do I do so in W10? 
From: Tony Ballou
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp
 

Hi,

 

Have been using it since the days of windows 95, and have had absilutely no problems with it.  I'm running the latest version of windows 10 professional and the last known stable version of winamp right now and enjoying a pink floyd documentary. 

 

tony


On 5/11/2017 9:55 AM, Георги Ламбов wrote:

   Hi!

By the way are you quite sure that the recommended from you site proposes winamp? Me, I couldn't find winamp there during my walk-up in the site.


На 11.5.2017 г. в 14:31 ч., Tony Ballou написа:

hi, 


Was on the original NVDA e-mail list years ago and now  I'm back from the wild grins!  You can also download it and a number of accessible programs which work with NVDA from www.ninite.com.  once you check the boxes that correspond with the programs you want, and hit the get installer button, and when prompeted run the file, ninite will install them automatically for you.  Hope this helps.


Tony


 


On 5/11/2017 6:59 AM, Gene wrote:
One place to get it is from this page:
A number of programs, including Winamp are listed there.
 
Winamp does work with Windows 10.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] WinAmp
 
 

Does WinAmp works with NVDA and current W10? If so, where can I get it?
Holger Fiallo




Re: start menu and programs

Arlene
 

Oh yeah? that's different! That is good to know. In ten there's no msconfig.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: May-11-17 4:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

Hello!

In Windows 10 is not in MSConfig...

Press Control+shift+Escape.
Press Control+Tab untill Start.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 11 de maio de 2017 23:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


I don't see any connection. As far as I know, what is being asked about

is MSConfig. I don't have Windows 10 so I won't explain the dialog as it is

in earlier versions. I don't know if anything has changed.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

search for desktop icons and hit enter.

On 5/11/2017 3:04 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

Hi all
In W7 there was away to check if some program started when the PC
started. There was away to go to the start menu and uncheck those
program that you did not want to run unless you did it. How can I do so
in W10? Using current W10, NVDA.
Holger Fiallo


Re: start menu and programs

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

In Windows 10 is not in MSConfig...

Press Control+shift+Escape.
Press Control+Tab untill Start.

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 11 de maio de 2017 23:48
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs


I don't see any connection. As far as I know, what is being asked about is MSConfig. I don't have Windows 10 so I won't explain the dialog as it is in earlier versions. I don't know if anything has changed.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Brice Mijares
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] start menu and programs

search for desktop icons and hit enter.

On 5/11/2017 3:04 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:

Hi all
In W7 there was away to check if some program started when the PC
started. There was away to go to the start menu and uncheck those
program that you did not want to run unless you did it. How can I do so
in W10? Using current W10, NVDA.
Holger Fiallo


Re: WinAmp

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

       
 
From    : Gene
Sent: T    hursday, May 11, 2017 5:49 PM
To: nvda@        nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [n        vda] WinAmp
Nothing. This is on W10. You indicated you do not have W10 correct. I can not even use default for WinAmp.
If you press alt and then f while you are holding alt, what happens?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp
 
                       
The reason I ask is because pressing alt key is not doing anything.
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp
 
The same way as always.  It's the same program.  The version of Windows doesn't matter.
 
 
I'll tell you the long way to help you learn how to find things in the program and then the short way.
 
Alt f, that is hold alt and type f to open the main menu.  All other menus are found in the menu as well as one or two other things.
So alt f, as I said.  Up arrow, it's faster, to options.  Press enter.
Down arrow through the options and you'll find various things such as shuffle and repeat.  Press enter on the one you want to turn it on.  If you want to turn it off later, find it and press enter again.
 
The short cut key, which you will hear if you let your screen-reader read everything when you get to the item is s.  S toggles shuffle on and off while you are in the main window.  R toggles repeat on and off. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 4:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp
 
   
Got a question for you. In WinAmp if I press alt the menu open and if I use arrow down I could select whether it play in order sor huffle. How do I do so in W10? 
From: Tony Ballou
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] WinAmp
 

Hi,

 

Have been using it since the days of windows 95, and have had absilutely no problems with it.  I'm running the latest version of windows 10 professional and the last known stable version of winamp right now and enjoying a pink floyd documentary. 

 

tony


On 5/11/2017 9:55 AM, Георги Ламбов wrote:

   Hi!

By the way are you quite sure that the recommended from you site proposes winamp? Me, I couldn't find winamp there during my walk-up in the site.


На 11.5.2017 г. в 14:31 ч., Tony Ballou написа:

hi, 


Was on the original NVDA e-mail list years ago and now  I'm back from the wild grins!  You can also download it and a number of accessible programs which work with NVDA from www.ninite.com.  once you check the boxes that correspond with the programs you want, and hit the get installer button, and when prompeted run the file, ninite will install them automatically for you.  Hope this helps.


Tony


 


On 5/11/2017 6:59 AM, Gene wrote:
One place to get it is from this page:
A number of programs, including Winamp are listed there.
 
Winamp does work with Windows 10.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Holger Fiallo
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] WinAmp
 
 

Does WinAmp works with NVDA and current W10? If so, where can I get it?
Holger Fiallo