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Single key navigation not working

 


Hi,


I am unable to use the single letter key navigation on web sites. I have tried with internet explorer, Firefox, and google chrome.


I just got this desk top computer and have windows 10 home. I downloaded NVDA from my portable flash drive, which was working fine on my old computer with windows 10.


Any suggestions will be appreciated.


Thanks,


Wayne



Re: recommended key for use with VMware fusion for NVDA

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

I don't have any recommendationns for sharp keys.  I've never had a problem with karabiner, but sharpkeys gave me nothing but grief.  Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Best,

Erik

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On May 8, 2017 10:31:00 AM "Jessica D" <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I could have been doing something wrong, but I found that program enaccessible, and not user friendly.

 

What key do you recommend using, with Sharp keys?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: erik burggraaf
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] recommended key for use with VMware fusion for NVDA

 

Hi Jessica,  You can get karabiner for your mac and use it to configure the capslock key for fusion.

You can also use karabiner to restore your number pad so that fn + M becomes an insert key.  Of course, this adds numerous other benefits if you can make your fingers get used to the off kilter arrangement of the keys.

Hope this helps,

Erik

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On May 8, 2017 9:17:40 AM "Jessica D" <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I’m running windows 10, via VMware fusion.

I need to reconfigure my nvda key, because fusion doesn’t allow the use of capslock as an NVDA modifier, and I don’t have a number pad.

What key would you recommend I use?

Can I use the ` key, since I never type it anyway?

If so, does anyone know what number it is, in sharpkeys?

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: ot: webvisum and firefox53

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I cannot say I'm surprised. Really google and whoever else promote this way of deciding if a person is real or not should kill this device as soon as possible for accessibility reasons. I am given to understand that the thing does not totally protect from spam now as computers and AI are a lot better than us at solving such things these days.
I just boycot sites that still use them despoite te audio supposedly being easier, it seems its not, I've never got one to work yet.

Maybe I am just not very fast at typing or remembering the order of random letters.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Simone Dal Maso" <simone.dalmaso@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 3:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] ot: webvisum and firefox53


Hello,
do you confirm that Webvisum stopped working after Firefox53 update?
Thank you!



Re: recommended key for use with VMware fusion for NVDA

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,

I could have been doing something wrong, but I found that program enaccessible, and not user friendly.

 

What key do you recommend using, with Sharp keys?

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: erik burggraaf
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 6:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] recommended key for use with VMware fusion for NVDA

 

Hi Jessica,  You can get karabiner for your mac and use it to configure the capslock key for fusion.

You can also use karabiner to restore your number pad so that fn + M becomes an insert key.  Of course, this adds numerous other benefits if you can make your fingers get used to the off kilter arrangement of the keys.

Hope this helps,

Erik

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On May 8, 2017 9:17:40 AM "Jessica D" <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I’m running windows 10, via VMware fusion.

I need to reconfigure my nvda key, because fusion doesn’t allow the use of capslock as an NVDA modifier, and I don’t have a number pad.

What key would you recommend I use?

Can I use the ` key, since I never type it anyway?

If so, does anyone know what number it is, in sharpkeys?

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: ot: webvisum and firefox53

Gene
 

Yes.  I don't know the technical details but there is a certain kind of add on that Flash is going to stop supporting and developers have to update the add ons to keep them working.  You can use a portable version of Firefox such as 52.x for those sites on which you use Webvisum and the current version for everything else.  That would allow you to have the current security updates in general use and still use Webvisum.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 9:12 AM
Subject: [nvda] ot: webvisum and firefox53

Hello,
do you confirm that Webvisum stopped working after Firefox53 update?
Thank you!




Re: ot: webvisum and firefox53

Michel Such
 

Yes, I confirm, nomore webvisum here!


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Le 2017-05-08 à 16:12, Simone Dal Maso a écrit :
Hello,
do you confirm that Webvisum stopped working after Firefox53 update?
Thank you!



Re: ot: webvisum and firefox53

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,

I’m not sure, but I heard that it would no longer work, and development was siecing, after Firefox 53.

The article was on Blind bargains.

I’m sure if you do a Google search, you’ll find it.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Simone Dal Maso
Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 7:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ot: webvisum and firefox53

 

Hello,

do you confirm that Webvisum stopped working after Firefox53 update?

Thank you!

 

 

 

 


Re: ot: webvisum and firefox53

Mallard
 

Yes, I confirm.

I was just going to write about the same thing.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 08/05/2017 16:12, Simone Dal Maso ha scritto:
Hello,
do you confirm that Webvisum stopped working after Firefox53 update?
Thank you!




ot: webvisum and firefox53

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
do you confirm that Webvisum stopped working after Firefox53 update?
Thank you!


Github creating an issue

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

OK I still feel that Github is pretty unfriendly if you do not use it on a daily basis, as I and I suspect others here do not. I have created some issues in the past on various branches of nvda. I feel the need to create a new one, and I'm blowed, after logging in, how to proceed to do this. There is a create new in the menu, but there is also issues you have created, that latter item is pretty obvious, and I had actually hoped a link to create a new issue might well be there, but its well hidden if it is. OK create new,. which talks about gist and pull requests, but all I want to do is record an issue against, say the next branch. Is this far to hard a concept for the menus to reflect on poor little users?
Brian

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Re: recommended key for use with VMware fusion for NVDA

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hi Jessica,  You can get karabiner for your mac and use it to configure the capslock key for fusion.

You can also use karabiner to restore your number pad so that fn + M becomes an insert key.  Of course, this adds numerous other benefits if you can make your fingers get used to the off kilter arrangement of the keys.

Hope this helps,

Erik

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http://www.aqua-mail.com

On May 8, 2017 9:17:40 AM "Jessica D" <jldail13@...> wrote:

Hi,

I’m running windows 10, via VMware fusion.

I need to reconfigure my nvda key, because fusion doesn’t allow the use of capslock as an NVDA modifier, and I don’t have a number pad.

What key would you recommend I use?

Can I use the ` key, since I never type it anyway?

If so, does anyone know what number it is, in sharpkeys?

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


recommended key for use with VMware fusion for NVDA

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,

I’m running windows 10, via VMware fusion.

I need to reconfigure my nvda key, because fusion doesn’t allow the use of capslock as an NVDA modifier, and I don’t have a number pad.

What key would you recommend I use?

Can I use the ` key, since I never type it anyway?

If so, does anyone know what number it is, in sharpkeys?

Thanks,

Jessica

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Windows apps

Justin Harris <justin171185@...>
 

Ah, glad I could help. 😊 Btw, I love what you have done with the Station Playlist addon. Great work..

Another random question... Any idea whatever came of ATPrime? It was supposed to help screen readers get more information for nonlabeled or poorly labeled controls, as well as enable easier access to things that we would normally have to use object navigation for. On the web site, it is mentioned that this was in development and was supposed to come out in late 2015, but here we are in 2017, and nothing. I only ask this, because I wonder if something like this would make some of these universal apps easier to use.

Thanks,

Justin


El 7/5/2017 a las 22:12, Joseph Lee escribió:

Hi,

Despite repeated feedback, the current situation with Facebook app (inaccessible for keyboard users) is likely to persist for a while. Thank you for reminding me to use an app like this for my upcoming NVDACon presentation on universal apps.

Cheers,

Joseph (author of Windows 10 App Essentials, ObjPad, GoldWave add-ons and maintainer of SPL Studio and Resource Monitor add-ons)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows apps

 

Hi

 

I do not know about the face book app but did a while ago did a tutorial on how to use the basics of the main face book website. the other one is quite easy to use that is for the mobile one.

 

There is a i think a written and or audio tutorial on the nvda tutorials for other programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

 

You will need to jump down by headings to the ones about face book. then there will be a link just under the heading to them.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/05/2017 1:46 PM, Justin Harris wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for this info. Glad to know that I wasn't missing something. Like I said, a lot of these apps work much better in Narrator, but I don't want to have to learn a completely different screen reader. But glad to know I wasn't doing something wrong. Any experience with the Facebook app?

 

El 7/5/2017 a las 17:59, David Moore escribió:

Hi Justin,

You are not doing anything differently that I am doing. I use NVDA in the Windows apps as well, and it does take a lot of object navigation. An app is set up so differently, that the tab, arrow keys, and so on, will not work in most apps. The apps I use well with NVDAare:

The store app, which can be used by just tabbing. Also, Watch ESPN, which takes a little use of object navigation, you can mostly tab. The NEWS app works great with NVDA, but you have to use a lot of object navigation to read and access the articles. I use the mail, calendar, and people apps all of the time with NVDA. I am using the Mail app right now. Those three apps work by just tabbing, pretty much. I do not use object navigation in the mail app at all. I also use the Groove app with NVDA using about half of just tabbing, and half object navigation. One thing you need to know about apps, is that there are hardly any key commands that can get you around the app quickly. You are stuck with tabbing a lot. Once you figure how many times you have to tab to get somewhere, you can tab that many times very quickly. I hope that helps a little.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Justin Harris
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 4:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows apps

 

Hello everyone,

I hope everyone is having a blessed day. I have been an NVDA user now

for quite some time, but just found out about this list.

I currently have a desktop which I use to run my online radio station.

Also I will be getting a laptop here pretty quick. On the desktop, I

have played around a bit with apps from the Windows App Store, with

mixed results. A lot of them can be used with object navigation, but

most info can't be accessed in the tab order or with arrow keys. For

example, the Weather Channel app. On other platforms it works quite

well. But on Windows, it's a mess. However, I was pleased to find that,

with the Bible app, I could navigate between the different books and

chapters. However, other things such as the verse of the day and

settings, were only available through object navigation.

So, my question is, is there a web page out there somewhere that gives

recommendations of accessible apps? If not, which apps, if any, are you

all using?

I have found that a lot of apps work quite well with Narrator. I

particularly like their Browse mode. However, NVDA offers me things that

Narrator doesn't, such as being able to change the voice with just a

keystroke. Also, I have been using NVDA for long enough that I am

familiar with it. I would prefer not to have to learn another whole set

of key commands. Not a big deal for my desktop, as it is pretty much

only for radio use, but with this laptop, I would like to take advantage

of more of these Windows apps.

Thanks,

Justin

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Windows apps

Justin Harris <justin171185@...>
 

I use the facebook main site a decent amount, but was hoping the app would be decent. At least as good as the Android version. I'm just amazed that after so many years since the launch of the app store, after all this happened back in Windows 8, and while Edge has gottten better, these apps from the app store have no accessibility requirements it would seem. At least they don't seem to play well with other screen readers that aren't Narrator.


El 7/5/2017 a las 21:36, Gene New Zealand escribió:

Hi


I do not know about the face book app but did a while ago did a tutorial on how to use the basics of the main face book website. the other one is quite easy to use that is for the mobile one.


There is a i think a written and or audio tutorial on the nvda tutorials for other programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html


You will need to jump down by headings to the ones about face book. then there will be a link just under the heading to them.


Gene nz



On 8/05/2017 1:46 PM, Justin Harris wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for this info. Glad to know that I wasn't missing something. Like I said, a lot of these apps work much better in Narrator, but I don't want to have to learn a completely different screen reader. But glad to know I wasn't doing something wrong. Any experience with the Facebook app?


El 7/5/2017 a las 17:59, David Moore escribió:

Hi Justin,

You are not doing anything differently that I am doing. I use NVDA in the Windows apps as well, and it does take a lot of object navigation. An app is set up so differently, that the tab, arrow keys, and so on, will not work in most apps. The apps I use well with NVDAare:

The store app, which can be used by just tabbing. Also, Watch ESPN, which takes a little use of object navigation, you can mostly tab. The NEWS app works great with NVDA, but you have to use a lot of object navigation to read and access the articles. I use the mail, calendar, and people apps all of the time with NVDA. I am using the Mail app right now. Those three apps work by just tabbing, pretty much. I do not use object navigation in the mail app at all. I also use the Groove app with NVDA using about half of just tabbing, and half object navigation. One thing you need to know about apps, is that there are hardly any key commands that can get you around the app quickly. You are stuck with tabbing a lot. Once you figure how many times you have to tab to get somewhere, you can tab that many times very quickly. I hope that helps a little.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Justin Harris
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 4:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows apps

 

Hello everyone,

I hope everyone is having a blessed day. I have been an NVDA user now

for quite some time, but just found out about this list.

I currently have a desktop which I use to run my online radio station.

Also I will be getting a laptop here pretty quick. On the desktop, I

have played around a bit with apps from the Windows App Store, with

mixed results. A lot of them can be used with object navigation, but

most info can't be accessed in the tab order or with arrow keys. For

example, the Weather Channel app. On other platforms it works quite

well. But on Windows, it's a mess. However, I was pleased to find that,

with the Bible app, I could navigate between the different books and

chapters. However, other things such as the verse of the day and

settings, were only available through object navigation.

So, my question is, is there a web page out there somewhere that gives

recommendations of accessible apps? If not, which apps, if any, are you

all using?

I have found that a lot of apps work quite well with Narrator. I

particularly like their Browse mode. However, NVDA offers me things that

Narrator doesn't, such as being able to change the voice with just a

keystroke. Also, I have been using NVDA for long enough that I am

familiar with it. I would prefer not to have to learn another whole set

of key commands. Not a big deal for my desktop, as it is pretty much

only for radio use, but with this laptop, I would like to take advantage

of more of these Windows apps.

Thanks,

Justin

 

 

 



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Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations or location is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries | Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -


Re: Windows apps

Tea Turković
 

Hi,

did someone try to use native Twitter app with NVDA?

Kind regards,
Tea Turkovic



8.5.2017. u 5:12, Joseph Lee je napisao/la:

Hi,

Despite repeated feedback, the current situation with Facebook app (inaccessible for keyboard users) is likely to persist for a while. Thank you for reminding me to use an app like this for my upcoming NVDACon presentation on universal apps.

Cheers,

Joseph (author of Windows 10 App Essentials, ObjPad, GoldWave add-ons and maintainer of SPL Studio and Resource Monitor add-ons)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows apps

 

Hi

 

I do not know about the face book app but did a while ago did a tutorial on how to use the basics of the main face book website. the other one is quite easy to use that is for the mobile one.

 

There is a i think a written and or audio tutorial on the nvda tutorials for other programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

 

You will need to jump down by headings to the ones about face book. then there will be a link just under the heading to them.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 8/05/2017 1:46 PM, Justin Harris wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for this info. Glad to know that I wasn't missing something. Like I said, a lot of these apps work much better in Narrator, but I don't want to have to learn a completely different screen reader. But glad to know I wasn't doing something wrong. Any experience with the Facebook app?

 

El 7/5/2017 a las 17:59, David Moore escribió:

Hi Justin,

You are not doing anything differently that I am doing. I use NVDA in the Windows apps as well, and it does take a lot of object navigation. An app is set up so differently, that the tab, arrow keys, and so on, will not work in most apps. The apps I use well with NVDAare:

The store app, which can be used by just tabbing. Also, Watch ESPN, which takes a little use of object navigation, you can mostly tab. The NEWS app works great with NVDA, but you have to use a lot of object navigation to read and access the articles. I use the mail, calendar, and people apps all of the time with NVDA. I am using the Mail app right now. Those three apps work by just tabbing, pretty much. I do not use object navigation in the mail app at all. I also use the Groove app with NVDA using about half of just tabbing, and half object navigation. One thing you need to know about apps, is that there are hardly any key commands that can get you around the app quickly. You are stuck with tabbing a lot. Once you figure how many times you have to tab to get somewhere, you can tab that many times very quickly. I hope that helps a little.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Justin Harris
Sent: Sunday, May 7, 2017 4:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows apps

 

Hello everyone,

I hope everyone is having a blessed day. I have been an NVDA user now

for quite some time, but just found out about this list.

I currently have a desktop which I use to run my online radio station.

Also I will be getting a laptop here pretty quick. On the desktop, I

have played around a bit with apps from the Windows App Store, with

mixed results. A lot of them can be used with object navigation, but

most info can't be accessed in the tab order or with arrow keys. For

example, the Weather Channel app. On other platforms it works quite

well. But on Windows, it's a mess. However, I was pleased to find that,

with the Bible app, I could navigate between the different books and

chapters. However, other things such as the verse of the day and

settings, were only available through object navigation.

So, my question is, is there a web page out there somewhere that gives

recommendations of accessible apps? If not, which apps, if any, are you

all using?

I have found that a lot of apps work quite well with Narrator. I

particularly like their Browse mode. However, NVDA offers me things that

Narrator doesn't, such as being able to change the voice with just a

keystroke. Also, I have been using NVDA for long enough that I am

familiar with it. I would prefer not to have to learn another whole set

of key commands. Not a big deal for my desktop, as it is pretty much

only for radio use, but with this laptop, I would like to take advantage

of more of these Windows apps.

Thanks,

Justin

 

 

 

 

 

--
Check out my website for nvda tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations or location is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries | Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa -



Re: Scanning and Reading PDF files

Gene
 

You may be doing what you want in terms of creating a scannable image in an inefficient way.  I don't know enough about PDF documents to know if it matters.  There are all sorts of image formats and it might be more efficient to scan a page or a document into an image rather than a PDF containing an image.  But I'll let others discuss whether it matters in terms of efficiency what you do. 
 
The reason you see text that NVDA can read in some PDF documents is that they are real text, not images of text.  You can store real text in PDF documents or images.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanning and Reading PDF files

hi.
i recommend you to use google ocr.
which is free, but its online and needs to sign in to your google
account if i am correct.
also nvda has one addon for that but i did not test it to explane.
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 5/8/17, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
> Personally, I'd use a paid for OCR for books, no matter which format you are
>
> displaying it as, as lots of errors can occur and you do  need to be able to
>
> edit the final result.. in my experience a lot, depending on how bad the
> printing is how the book binding affects the scan. Its not a precise art,
> though a friend actually seems to get better results on his smart phone with
>
> knfb reader than I can with Adbbey or any other one I've tried using a
> scanner.
>
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fantasy Sports" <fantasylife@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 11:39 PM
> Subject: [nvda] Scanning and Reading PDF files
>
>
>> If I scanned a book or magazine page into a PDF file
>> using a basic scanner, do I need a professional OCR
>> program to extract the text?
>>
>> NVDA does seem to have its own decoding system for
>> PDF files, but I think it depends how the document
>> was scanned or prepared.
>>
>> Does anyone know?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Scanning and Reading PDF files

 

hi.
i recommend you to use google ocr.
which is free, but its online and needs to sign in to your google
account if i am correct.
also nvda has one addon for that but i did not test it to explane.
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 5/8/17, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Personally, I'd use a paid for OCR for books, no matter which format you are

displaying it as, as lots of errors can occur and you do need to be able to

edit the final result.. in my experience a lot, depending on how bad the
printing is how the book binding affects the scan. Its not a precise art,
though a friend actually seems to get better results on his smart phone with

knfb reader than I can with Adbbey or any other one I've tried using a
scanner.

Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fantasy Sports" <fantasylife@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 11:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] Scanning and Reading PDF files


If I scanned a book or magazine page into a PDF file
using a basic scanner, do I need a professional OCR
program to extract the text?

NVDA does seem to have its own decoding system for
PDF files, but I think it depends how the document
was scanned or prepared.

Does anyone know?





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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Question about reading a whole row with nvda in excel

Rui Fontes
 

With NVDA, unhapply is not possible.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene New Zealand
Data: 8 de maio de 2017 04:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Question about reading a whole row with nvda in excel

hi guys


I do not use excel enough but a question has been asked about reading a
whole row at one time.


i thik i did see some body ask a question like this but did not see the
result.


is there such a command? or is there a ticket to do this?


The question is below from the person that asked me.


I’m wondering if you know of a command to get NVDA to read an entire row
in an excel worksheet? Seemingly, I can only get it to read the current
cell, but would like it to read at least all that is visible on the row
that I am on.


Thanks for any help.


Gene nz



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Re: Hyperlinks and Spelling Errors

Gene
 

The screen-reader doesn't check spelling when reading a document unless you are in an edit field.  I don't know if that is any longer a problem.  But I have never had any screen-reader flag spelling errors when reading a web page in an area that is not an edit field. 
 
I haven't checked to see if bullets are able to be altered working in the pronunciation area.  The first thing to do is to set punctuation to none in the voice being used and see how much is eliminated.  The default is some.  Setting it to none will cause the screen-reader to speak no punctuation.  Bullets and other formatting information are not punctuation and won't be affected by this change. Changing the punctuation to none will eliminate reading of all punctuation and may improve matters.  But also, as I said in my last message, the document formatting dialog should be looked through.  Beyond that, there may be some items that you can't stop being read.  I or someone else can discuss the punctuation dialog in preferences where you can change what is spoken for a specific punctuation mark but I don't think that applies to what is being discussed, which is document formatting.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hyperlinks and Spelling Errors

This is the priority of the items like bullets and other special characters
which you can individually alter in the punctuation symbols list easily, but
I'm not quite sure what you mean by links. I believe that if you don't want
spelling error to occur here then you need to tell your word processor not
to scan links, however if you don't want link spoken at all in certain
programs but you do in others, you need to select your program run it go to
profiles and then set the parameters you want  and create that as a profile
so that particular selection can only occur in that software.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Fantasy Sports" <fantasylife@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2017 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Hyperlinks and Spelling Errors


Okay, I've been troubleshooting a little.


I haven't figured how to run NVDA without add-ons, so I should probably try
that also.


With the Code Factory add-on, it is reading a lot of the formatting of PDF's
and websites, which I think is the problem.


For instance, every time it gets to a bullet point, it will say the word
"bullet".


Is there a way to stop this?  I think if I fix that it will fix the
hyperlinks
problem also.








  -----Original Message-----
  From: Gene
  Sent: May 3, 2017 6:06 PM
  To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
  Subject: Re: [nvda] Hyperlinks and Spelling Errors


  Do you know how to run NVDA with no add ons?  Doing that would tell you if
an add on is causing the problem.  If so, you can then disable one add on at
a time until you find the one.  Are you using the standard read to end
command, NVDA key down arrow or reading using some other procedure.  This is
essential information in discussing the problem.

  Gene
  ----- Original Message ----

  From: Fantasy Sports
  Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:34 PM
  To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
  Subject: Re: [nvda] Hyperlinks and Spelling Errors


  I am using the Code Factory Vocalizer.

  -----Original Message-----
  >From: Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
  >Sent: May 3, 2017 2:47 AM
  >To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
  >Subject: Re: [nvda] Hyperlinks and Spelling Errors
  >
  >hi
  >
  >
  >for the first question which synth package are you using?
  >
  >
  >the second question is have a look under the document settings in nvda.
  >Uncheck the box that say about report spelling errors.
  >
  >
  >Gene nz
  >
  >
  >
  >On 3/05/2017 6:22 PM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
  >> Whenever NVDA is reading anything on a web page and it encounters a
hyperlink, it
  >> stops reading.
  >>
  >> Is there a way for it to keep going, or to just read the text of the
hyperlink itself?
  >>
  >> Also, I've noticed that when it encounters proper nouns, it will often
read out the
  >> words "spelling error" when it reads the name.
  >>
  >> Is there a way to disable that?
  >>
  >> Thank you.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >
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  >material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net. Regardless of where you
  >are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
  >copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
  >which locations or location is near to you please visit
  >http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
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  >
  >
  >



 




Re: Windows apps

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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2017 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows apps


Hi there, and thanks for the in depth response. That is interesting, as I have stumbled over your site a number of times when just googling different info. Like I said, it might be helpful to create an app directory that reviews apps for their accessibility.


El 7/5/2017 a las 18:35, Gene New Zealand escribió:
Hi Justin


it will depend on the app what you might be able to do.


Some work straight out of the box with tabbing to get to different parts
of it. Pressing the space bar to open certain sections.


which are buttons some times you have to use object navigation to get to
certain parts of the app.


in other parts you have to use the text review command.


the section you will need to sus out is 5.6 or around that area in the
user guide.


The sections that cover review text and object navigation. they would be
worth getting your head around and will let you get to stuff that you
can not get to with the normal focus some times.


I have just recorded a audio tutorial on the windows store and in the
process of writing up a written one that might help some who might want
to use the store.


But it uses the basics of tabing/ shift/tabing, object navigation and
text review.


I did not buy a app though.

The written part is still a rough draft and both will be posted to the
website of mine if you do not know it already.


if you do not know of it the website has both blindness related material
plus nvda tutorials both written and audio. it can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

the commands are for a desk top computer as that is what i use.


Gene nz



On 8/05/2017 8:32 AM, Justin Harris wrote:
Hello everyone,
I hope everyone is having a blessed day. I have been an NVDA user now
for quite some time, but just found out about this list.
I currently have a desktop which I use to run my online radio station.
Also I will be getting a laptop here pretty quick. On the desktop, I
have played around a bit with apps from the Windows App Store, with
mixed results. A lot of them can be used with object navigation, but
most info can't be accessed in the tab order or with arrow keys. For
example, the Weather Channel app. On other platforms it works quite
well. But on Windows, it's a mess. However, I was pleased to find
that, with the Bible app, I could navigate between the different books
and chapters. However, other things such as the verse of the day and
settings, were only available through object navigation.
So, my question is, is there a web page out there somewhere that gives
recommendations of accessible apps? If not, which apps, if any, are
you all using?
I have found that a lot of apps work quite well with Narrator. I
particularly like their Browse mode. However, NVDA offers me things
that Narrator doesn't, such as being able to change the voice with
just a keystroke. Also, I have been using NVDA for long enough that I
am familiar with it. I would prefer not to have to learn another whole
set of key commands. Not a big deal for my desktop, as it is pretty
much only for radio use, but with this laptop, I would like to take
advantage of more of these Windows apps.
Thanks,
Justin