Hi Don,

You can, under Input Gestures in Preferences.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Don H
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] hot key assignments

So is there a way in NVDA to reassign a hot key combination for a
standard NVDA hot key? for example changing the NVDA find command of
insert control f to control shift f.

Hi Don,

You can, under Input Gestures in Preferences.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Don H
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] hot key assignments

So is there a way in NVDA to reassign a hot key combination for a
standard NVDA hot key? for example changing the NVDA find command of
insert control f to control shift f.

Hi Don,
You can, under Input Gestures in Preferences.
Jonathan
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] hot key assignments
So is there a way in NVDA to reassign a hot key combination for a standard
NVDA hot key? for example changing the NVDA find command of insert control
f to control shift f.

Hi,
Yes it does.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] braille note classic nvda support?

Hello out of curiousity does nvda support the older braille note classics, say from 2003?

I have a brialle note classic that some one gave me and I am wanting
to use it as a external braille display, and possibly a external synth

the synth that is uses is

keynote sa

I have a serial to usb adapter and the proper plugs pluged in to the adapter.

thanks

Hank

If NVDA had a jaws layout addon and a window eyes layout addon then it
would work. or you could go into the input gestures dialog box and
change NVDA keyboard gestures. that's the only way I can think of to do
such changes.

So is there a way in NVDA to reassign a hot key combination for a
standard NVDA hot key? for example changing the NVDA find command of
insert control f to control shift f.

Hi,
Yes it does.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] braille note classic nvda support?

Hello out of curiousity does nvda support the older braille note classics, say from 2003?

I have a brialle note classic that some one gave me and I am wanting to use it as a external braille display, and possibly a external synth

the synth that is uses is

keynote sa

I have a serial to usb adapter and the proper plugs pluged in to the adapter.

thanks

Hank

Did you try my modified versions on a previous message on a dropbox link in this thread. I find them better myself as you can hear them better.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] love the new sounds

I love the new sounds they should be an option. Give an option to revert to
the old sound scheme for those that want it..

Good morning list,


How much hassle am I asking for if I install NVDA on my laptop before
uninstalling window-eyes? I'm hoping to do a soft transition but want to
avoid software conflicts.


I would never actually run these simultaneously, obviously.


Suggestions welcome.


Thank you!

Sally

I'm not sure about the start and end sounds. Too short to detect
rising and lowering pitch in. My versions are a bit longer.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Shook" <chris0309@samobile.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

Chris Mullins I just followed your instructions and I like it so much
better.
Thanks.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:53 am, Gene wrote:

I consider the Window-eyes JAWS emulation layout to be a gimmick that
actually works against people learning Window-eyes fully since the JAWS
emulation doesn't incorporate all the Window-eyes commands.

And I have to concur.

In virtually all cases the "crutches" that are offered are just that:
crutches. I don't like the JAWS virtual ribbon because it stops people
from learning how to use the Windows ribbon, which is never going away.
There are all sorts of these things and they do as much, sometimes more,
damage than good.

Not having used Window Eyes much I can't speak to what it would be like to
transition to either JAWS or NVDA, but having done the JAWS to NVDA learning
myself, and flip-flopping back and forth between the two, both are most
functional when understood on their own terms. And what they have in common
is, in my opinion, far more than what separates them (though some of those
separating things can come in really, really handy at times on both sides of
the equation).

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* ~ * *Niels Bohr*

Install this:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/speakPasswords.en.html
There's no toggle, it ties the password speaking to speak characters/words.
On 6/1/2017 7:42 AM, Don H wrote:

One option I would love to see taken from Window Eyes is to have the
option to have passwords spoken normally or with NVDA saying star. I am
a pretty good typist but if I am going to make a mistake it seems to be
when entering passwords with no feedback to what I am entering.
Is there a place where NVDA users formally request future features such
as this?
Thanks

The sounds can be turned off as follows:
Start and Exit sounds: General Settings > Play sounds when starting
and exiting NVDA
Browse and focus mode sounds: Browse mode settings > Audio indication
of focus and browse mode sounds
Text spelling error sound: Keyboard settings > Play sounds for spelling errors
Suggestion sounds will be toggleable in the next release as well.

On 6/1/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

I did this much earlier in the development of NVDA where, as I recall, such
options aren't available. I think it's a good idea to have a no sounds
option so that sounds can all be turned on or off in one operation if the
user wishes.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kara Goldfinch
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 6:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] love the new sounds


Gene,

You don't have to do this as there are options to turn off most of them.

In general preferences, there's an option to disable the startup and shut
down sounds.

You can turn off the sound that's played to alert you of a spelling error in
document formatting, but keep in mind that this will turn off spelling error
detection completely.

Finally you can replace the browse and focus mode sounds with speech prompts
by going into browse mode options.

Kara











On 01/06/2017 11:43, Gene wrote:


I cause all sounds not to be played, if necessary by inserting very short
blank wave files in the sounds folder. I see no reason for any sounds and I
think there should be some sort of all off setting for those who don't want
any. Aside from that, my question is, why do the new sounds have to be odd
and novel, seemingly just different for differences' sake. Why does one of
the settings in the browse mode/focus mode notification have to sound like a
frog clearing its throat and the other be an odd chord? Why do the start
and unload sounds have to be odd chords whose main purpose aside from the
intended one seems to be to call attention to their oddness. I'm not saying
I like the newer or the older sounds more. As I said, I don't like sounds
in general. but what I'm saying is, maybe the whole idea of why sounds
sound as they do should be reconsidered. Maybe a pleasant chord sounding
like a synthesizer imitating a string instrument playing a major chord
should signify browse mode while a very different sound, maybe a stream
flowing or the musical instrument that sounds like water flowing could be
used for focus mode, or if something more assertive is wanted, the sound of
a trumpet playing a note.

I'm not advocating for these specific sounds. I'm saying that just odd
sounding novelty for the sake of odd sounding novelty is not a proper basis
on which to define sounds, in my opinion.

Why isn't there a feature for the user to define sounds. It might take
sounds from the Windows sounds folder and the user could choose, along with
whatever sounds have been selected for the program to use that are original
NVDA sounds.

And I'll point out that Microsoft has a none option for events in Windows
and a no sounds provile already available as well.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Clare Page
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 5:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] love the new sounds


Hi!

After downloading the next snapshot with the new sounds in it, I am
currently trying them out, having copied those sounds into the Waves folder
of my installed copy of NVDA, as the sounds are the only new thing I want to
test right now.

I must say,I agree with Dennis’s opinion below, on both counts.

Much as I personally prefer the new sounds, which are not as loud as the
old ones, I agree that there should be the choice of which set of sounds we
use with NVDA, even if that means adding an extra dialogue to choose them,
or an extra section in the NVDA preferences. I don’t know whether this can
be done, that’s for the developers to decide of course.

That’s my two cents worth on this subject, but I know we don’t all share
the same opinion, that’s all the more reason to allow us to choose which set
of sounds we want if possible while using NVDA.

Bye for now!

From Clare



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis
L
Sent: mercredi 31 mai 2017 23:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] love the new sounds



I love the new sounds they should be an option. Give an option to revert
to the old sound scheme for those that want it..

One option I would love to see taken from Window Eyes is to have the
option to have passwords spoken normally or with NVDA saying star. I am
a pretty good typist but if I am going to make a mistake it seems to be
when entering passwords with no feedback to what I am entering.
Is there a place where NVDA users formally request future features such
as this?
Thanks