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Re: Reading the Windows Explorer Window

Quentin Christensen
 

Can you give steps to reproduce?  Does it happen every time you use the arrow keys in the tree view?

I haven't got Windows 8.1 in front of me to test with just now, so if I can get as many details as possible for when I can test it that would be great.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@...> wrote:
I am, WIN8.1.

Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading the Windows Explorer Window

Which version of windows? Are you using an installed version of nvda?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan Milam" <milamj@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] Reading the Windows Explorer Window


> Hi All,
>
>
>
> In 2017.2, and even in earlier versions of NVDA, I am having an issue
> where
> NVDA will not speak the contents of windows explorer windows whenever I
> arrow up and down through listviews.  Is anyone else seeing this?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
>









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Re: Spelling what is on the clipboard?

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Brandon,
No, there is no way via NVDA core itself that you can currently spell
clipboard contents. You may check the ClipContent Designer NVDA
add-on, and if this functionality is not available (which it probably
isn't, as far as I recall), you can suggest it to Nolia.
Thanks.

On 6/1/17, Brandon Keith Biggs <brandonkeithbiggs@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
Is there any way to spell what is on the clipboard? I love the ability to
hear what is on the clipboard, but when copying someone's name or long
strings of numbers that I need to enter into boxes that don't allow
pasting, I really would like to be able to hear how to spell what is on the
clipboard.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs <http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;
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Re: Testing espeak NG changes to improve a language

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Ronan,
In case you aren't already aware, there exists a dedicated ESpeak-NG
mailing list which you can subscribe to by sending a blank mail to
espeak-ng+subscribe@groups.io. You may have better chances of getting
a detailed developer-side response there or on NVDA-Devel than on the
NVDA Users International Forum, i.e. this mailing list.
Thanks.

On 6/1/17, Ronan Mcguirk <ronan.p.mcguirk@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone on the NVDA list can help me with some
suggestions for trying to make changes to espeak NG, to improve a
language for NVDA.

I have a query about espeak NG phoneme compiling on Windows.
I am working on some improvements to the Irish Language implementation
in espeak NG. I have installed espeak NG on a Windows 8.1 PC. (the 32
bit binary install with the Visual C++ redistributable). With this I
am able to make changes to rules and dictionary files and
afterwards run command-line compiles with the command:
espeak-ng –compile=ga
In order to do this, I have placed the updated ga_dict and ga_rules
files in the same folder as the espeak-ng.exe executable.
This approach is working well and I am also able to test the
pronunciation changes from the Windows command line. In addition to
dictionary and rules changes, I would like to make some changes to
phoneme code. After updating the code in the phsource\phonemes file, I
have attempted to run a command line phoneme compile with the command:
espeak-ng –compile-phonemes
I did this with a copy of my updated phsource folder placed in the
same folder as the espeak-ng.exe executable.
This gives me a series of errors like the following short extract:
Compiling phoneme data: C:\Program Files (x86)\eSpeak
NG\/espeak-ng-data/../phsource/phonemes
phonemes(121): Bad keyword in phoneme definition 'stp'
phonemes(129): Phoneme type is missing
phonemes(142): Bad keyword in phoneme definition 'vwl'
phonemes(149): Phoneme type is missing
phonemes(150): Bad keyword in phoneme definition 'vwl'
phonemes(153): Bad keyword in phoneme definition 'nsy'
phonemes(162): Phoneme type is missing
Can you tell me if it should be possible to run a phoneme compile from
the command line on Windows as above? If so, am I missing file path
information or is there some other problem? Alternatively, is a full
espeak-ng Windows build
necessary? (Note that I have not needed a full Windows build for the
rules and dictionary compiles). I am only interested in updating the
phsource/phonemes file for Irish, and not any C or C++ code in espeak
NG.
I have made a first attempt at a full build of espeak NG on Windows
8.1 but am getting problems with missing dll files when I try to run
the resulting espeak-ng.exe


Any suggestions on how to get espeak-ng up and running on Windows 8.1
, much appreciated!
Many thanks,

Ronan


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Re: New nvda sounds

Arlene
 

Oh golly! Did you have to curse?  I hated system access! My computer gagged and spat it out as though it ate a food it did not like!  I was glad to have rid of it!  It would not let me instal the free version when I wanted to try the free trial.  I tried this before a friend gave me his key.  Even with my friend’s key it would not instal properly. My computer gagged and spat it out!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Capelle
Sent: May-31-17 4:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

hell no, satogo and system access are still running strong.

 

From: The Wolf

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

I thought system access died?

 

On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:

There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.

 

System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.

 


Re: New nvda sounds

Devin Prater
 

Nope, system access still lives on somehow, lol.

 

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology in training, World Services for the Blind
Sent from Mail for windows 10

 

From: The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

I thought system access died?

 

On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:

There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.

 

System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.

 

 


Re: New nvda sounds

Kwork
 

I absolutely agree. Most portable programs do create their own folder. NVDA does not. I installed a portable version at one time in a main folder assuming NVDA would create its own. Big mistake. I had to go in manually and figure out which files and folders belonged to NVDA, and which ones were there already. Learned an unnecessary, in my opinion, lesson.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

Run the installer.  Tab through the dialog and you will see that you mustg accept the license agreement.  The next dialog gives you choices such as install, make portable version and continue running.  Create a portable version.  Don't designate a folder with any other files in it.  The portable creator doesn't place the files in a folder of its own.  It will place the files directly in a folder you specify.  I had thought about commenting on this in the past but I didn't.  But NVDA should, in my opinion, create a folder when creating a portable version.  I had believed it would and so I designated a folder at one time and had the NVDA files placed in a folder with lots of other files.  Just as zip programs create a folder when unzipping, so, I think, should NVDA.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

I am not sure how to install it as a portable could someone email me  the
sounds
 
Dennisl1982@...
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

Dennis, download the NVDA decelopment snapshot, install it to something like
a portable installation location, and then go copy the sound clips from the
./waves folder into your current installation's ./waves folder.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2017-05-31 19:01, Dennis L wrote:
> How can we get these new sounds now is there a way?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Jacob Kruger
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:39 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds
>
> Brian, I was feeling the same way - I actually prefer the old, 'classic'
> sounds myself.
>
>
> Jacob Kruger
> Blind Biker
> Skype: BlindZA
> "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
>
> On 2017-05-31 13:19, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>> I notice in the next branch of snaps, we are being given new start
>> and end sounds and new  edit and browse mode sounds. I have issues
>> with some of these myself, but wanted to flag these up here for a a
>> wider audience to try and perhaps feed back on on the devel list.
>> My main issue is the quietness of the edit mode and the similarity of
>> the start and stop ones for nvda.
>>
>>
>> However others may beg to differ and love them, I don't know either
>> way might be nice to have a choice rather than to just get the new ones.
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal email to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: New nvda sounds

 

Hi,

I will discuss this topic on this list.

The snapshots page is at:

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

OK then. Where will this thread be? W,here do I download the new version with the sounds?

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:57, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

It won’t involve GitHub.

I’ll devote a thread to how an NVDA feature is born tonight.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

what is the process for downloading a version from this branch? Please tell me it doesn't involve Github!

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:36, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

It’s not in stable, not in beta either. It’s under active testing in an alpha-level branch.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

which beta branch contains the new sounds? I personally think a new sound change might be good. I always hated the default sounds, so much so that I created my own. Yes, I hate the default ones that much!

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:13, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...> wrote:

hell no, satogo and system access are still running strong.

 

From: The Wolf

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

I thought system access died?

 

On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:

There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.

 

System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.



 


Re: New nvda sounds

 

OK then. Where will this thread be? W,here do I download the new version with the sounds?

Noah Carver

On May 31, 2017, at 19:57, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

It won’t involve GitHub.

I’ll devote a thread to how an NVDA feature is born tonight.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

what is the process for downloading a version from this branch? Please tell me it doesn't involve Github!

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:36, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

It’s not in stable, not in beta either. It’s under active testing in an alpha-level branch.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

which beta branch contains the new sounds? I personally think a new sound change might be good. I always hated the default sounds, so much so that I created my own. Yes, I hate the default ones that much!

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:13, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...> wrote:

hell no, satogo and system access are still running strong.

 

From: The Wolf

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

I thought system access died?

 

On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:

There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.

 

System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.


 


Re: New nvda sounds

 

Hi,

It won’t involve GitHub.

I’ll devote a thread to how an NVDA feature is born tonight.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

what is the process for downloading a version from this branch? Please tell me it doesn't involve Github!

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:36, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

It’s not in stable, not in beta either. It’s under active testing in an alpha-level branch.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

which beta branch contains the new sounds? I personally think a new sound change might be good. I always hated the default sounds, so much so that I created my own. Yes, I hate the default ones that much!

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:13, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...> wrote:

hell no, satogo and system access are still running strong.

 

From: The Wolf

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

I thought system access died?

 

On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:

There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.

 

System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.


 


Re: New nvda sounds

 

what is the process for downloading a version from this branch? Please tell me it doesn't involve Github!

Noah Carver

On May 31, 2017, at 19:36, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

It’s not in stable, not in beta either. It’s under active testing in an alpha-level branch.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

which beta branch contains the new sounds? I personally think a new sound change might be good. I always hated the default sounds, so much so that I created my own. Yes, I hate the default ones that much!

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:13, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...> wrote:

hell no, satogo and system access are still running strong.

 

From: The Wolf

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

I thought system access died?

 

On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:

There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.

 

System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.

 


Testing espeak NG changes to improve a language

Ronan Mcguirk <ronan.p.mcguirk@...>
 

Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone on the NVDA list can help me with some
suggestions for trying to make changes to espeak NG, to improve a
language for NVDA.

I have a query about espeak NG phoneme compiling on Windows.
I am working on some improvements to the Irish Language implementation
in espeak NG. I have installed espeak NG on a Windows 8.1 PC. (the 32
bit binary install with the Visual C++ redistributable). With this I
am able to make changes to rules and dictionary files and
afterwards run command-line compiles with the command:
espeak-ng –compile=ga
In order to do this, I have placed the updated ga_dict and ga_rules
files in the same folder as the espeak-ng.exe executable.
This approach is working well and I am also able to test the
pronunciation changes from the Windows command line. In addition to
dictionary and rules changes, I would like to make some changes to
phoneme code. After updating the code in the phsource\phonemes file, I
have attempted to run a command line phoneme compile with the command:
espeak-ng –compile-phonemes
I did this with a copy of my updated phsource folder placed in the
same folder as the espeak-ng.exe executable.
This gives me a series of errors like the following short extract:
Compiling phoneme data: C:\Program Files (x86)\eSpeak
NG\/espeak-ng-data/../phsource/phonemes
phonemes(121): Bad keyword in phoneme definition 'stp'
phonemes(129): Phoneme type is missing
phonemes(142): Bad keyword in phoneme definition 'vwl'
phonemes(149): Phoneme type is missing
phonemes(150): Bad keyword in phoneme definition 'vwl'
phonemes(153): Bad keyword in phoneme definition 'nsy'
phonemes(162): Phoneme type is missing
Can you tell me if it should be possible to run a phoneme compile from
the command line on Windows as above? If so, am I missing file path
information or is there some other problem? Alternatively, is a full
espeak-ng Windows build
necessary? (Note that I have not needed a full Windows build for the
rules and dictionary compiles). I am only interested in updating the
phsource/phonemes file for Irish, and not any C or C++ code in espeak NG.
I have made a first attempt at a full build of espeak NG on Windows
8.1 but am getting problems with missing dll files when I try to run
the resulting espeak-ng.exe


Any suggestions on how to get espeak-ng up and running on Windows 8.1
, much appreciated!
Many thanks,

Ronan


Re: New nvda sounds

 

Hi,

It’s not in stable, not in beta either. It’s under active testing in an alpha-level branch.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

which beta branch contains the new sounds? I personally think a new sound change might be good. I always hated the default sounds, so much so that I created my own. Yes, I hate the default ones that much!

Noah Carver


On May 31, 2017, at 19:13, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...> wrote:

hell no, satogo and system access are still running strong.

 

From: The Wolf

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

I thought system access died?

 

On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:

There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.

 

System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

 

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.

 


Re: New nvda sounds

 

which beta branch contains the new sounds? I personally think a new sound change might be good. I always hated the default sounds, so much so that I created my own. Yes, I hate the default ones that much!

Noah Carver

On May 31, 2017, at 19:13, Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...> wrote:

hell no, satogo and system access are still running strong.
 
From: The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds
 

I thought system access died?


On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:
There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.
 
System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds
 
A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.




Re: New nvda sounds

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

hell no, satogo and system access are still running strong.
 

From: The Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds
 

I thought system access died?


On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:
There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.
 
System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds
 
A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.




Spelling what is on the clipboard?

 

Hello,
Is there any way to spell what is on the clipboard? I love the ability to hear what is on the clipboard, but when copying someone's name or long strings of numbers that I need to enter into boxes that don't allow pasting, I really would like to be able to hear how to spell what is on the clipboard.
Thanks,


Re: New nvda sounds

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi I have the latest version of NVDA how do you install the new sounds to it
and what are all the sounds for?
Also if you have A sound assigned that you don't want can you just turn that
one off and keep the rest running?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

It should be a announcement you can turn on or off.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Shook
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 5:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good. So long as there is
some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a problem with
getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to type
in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.


Re: New nvda sounds

 

I thought system access died?


On 5/31/2017 3:28 PM, Gene wrote:
There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.
 
System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.




Re: New nvda sounds

Gene
 

There already is a choice for verbal notification.  It should be verbal notification by default.
 
System Access doesn't have a forms and browse mode because it is designed somehow to allow the page to be changed such as in edit fields and to allow browsing at the same time.  However, this imposes limitations on what you can do.  I haven't used System Access to Go hardly at all for a long time but I recall coming across occasions where I wanted to do something I couldn't do because I couldn't switch between browse and forms mode.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New nvda sounds

A verbal prompt that brouse mode was on would be good.  So long as
there is some sort of indication that brouse mode is on, I don't see a
problem with getting rid of sounds.
System Access doesn't have a brouse mode at all. You simply go to the
website go to the edit field you want and type. It used to allow you to
type in any edit field. It doesn't work with Google anymore.
Regardless, it's an idea for the NVDA developers.



Re: What new sounds

Damien Garwood
 

Hi,
I believe the new sounds are in the development snapshots rather than the actual official releases.
Damien.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What new sounds

Got the latest NVDA installed and I don't see any differences in any
sounds created by NVDA. What am I missing here?


Re: Weather Plus update dialog

David Moore
 

Hi all,

I just had this happen to me right now. I wasn’t sure what was going on, and it asked me if I wanted to update it and download it, but I did it yesterday. I don’t know why it asked me again today. Pretty strange LOL!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus update dialog

 

Yes, I did notice this with the latest update of the weather plus add on.

 

 

On 5/31/2017 9:15 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi,

 

I am wondering if anyone else is experiencing this.

 

When  the weather Plus update dialog pops up and I do not immediately notice it it seems to take control of the keyboard or something.  If it is up in the background and I am on another window NVDA doesn't behave very well.  I often notice this because keyboard commands start failing to do anything.

 

If I cycle through the open windows and find the weather Plus dialog up I can close that dialog and then NVDA works just as it should.

 

I am wondering if the Weather Plus update dialog is using some kind of interface that is causing this.

 

Dan Beaver



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