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Re: Chat Software

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi Gary,

 

I am wondering if perhaps the insert key is being set to overwrite instead of inserting characters.  I used to see this in Word myself, and a press of the insert key disabled this from happening.  Apparently in Word, you can get into overwrite mode where when you type if is actually overwriting text   instead of inserting it.

 

As for chat programs, I wonder how Miranda would work with NVDA?  I haven’t tried it myself.  Maybe try Instantbird as well?

 

Jonathan

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 11:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Chat Software

 

Hello,

 

My workplace uses Jabber extensively to chat internally.  I have been using Thunderbird's built-in chat, but find that it occasionally scrambles my outgoing messages, which is very strange, annoying, and has to be with T-Bird specifically because I don't have this issue with any other software.  For example, the line:

 

"The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"

 

Might be changed to:

 

"ver the lazy dogThe quick brown fox jumps o"

 

Obviously, this happens while I'm typing, but I have no way to know this.  So, I guess this is a two part question:

 

1. Has anyone experienced this behavior and knows of a solution?

 

2. More importantly: does anyone know of a chat program, besides Thunderbird and Trillian, that works well with NVDA?  I've tried mIRC and Pidgin, but both have issues with NVDA.

 

Thanks!

 

Gary

    

 

 

 


Re: Windows Key commands not working?

 

Much as I hate action keys/media keys/whatever a given manufacturer happens to call making the function key row perform various system functions by default and act like old-style function keys only if Fn is pressed with them, that is really entirely disjoint from the original issue.

I am still trying to wrap my head around what, other than corruption in the OS of some kind, could make any standard Windows WinKey plus style command fail to work.  I have never seen the WinKey remapped.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill



Re: NVDA and LibreOfice annoyances - Two, three or many places?

 

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 01:21 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I think Microsoft in pressing ahead with the X formats are making a mistake, personally. Its certainly caused me to have to send them back to companies and explain in very detailed terms why these do not always work for everyone.

The docx format has been the standard MS-Office format for word processing since Office 2007.  It's not going away, period.

There are times, many of them, where we as individuals must configure ourselves to the world, not the other way around.  Insisting that anyone not use what has been the standard MS-Word file format for well over a decade now isn't going to get you anywhere.
--
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     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill



Re: To Rui Fontes

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Karen is part of voices available in our product.
In the variants Compact, Standard and Premium.
They are available in:
http://tiflotecnia.net/downloads.htm

I shouldn't say this, but it seems that Karen compact is not available to Jaws.

Regards,

Rui Fontes
-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Bill Holton
Data: 18 de abril de 2017 14:58
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] To Rui Fontes

Hi.
I am trying to make the switch from WE to JAWS and NVDA. My problem is I have become so accustomed to the Australian Karen compact voice available with the first WE first set of Vocalizer voices. Is it possible to get this voice for NVDA and JAWS? Thanks.
Bill


Re: To Rui Fontes

Lino Morales
 



On 4/18/2017 10:12 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
> Yes, but there was a set before the expressive voices, that's the one > I want. > > > -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io > [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales Sent: Tuesday, > April 18, 2017 10:08 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] > To Rui Fontes > > I'm not Rue, bugt if you are switching to JAWS Karen compact is on > their downloads page for Vocoalizer Expressive II which works with > JFW 18 and up. > > > On 4/18/2017 9:58 AM, Bill Holton wrote: >> Hi. I am trying to make the switch from WE to JAWS and NVDA. My >> problem is I have become so accustomed to the Australian Karen >> compact voice available with the first WE first set of Vocalizer >> voices. Is it possible to get this voice for NVDA and JAWS? >> Thanks. Bill >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > >
I think the V 1 of the Expressive voices are still thier. What version of JAWS do you have?


Chat Software

Gary
 

Hello,


My workplace uses Jabber extensively to chat internally.  I have been using Thunderbird's built-in chat, but find that it occasionally scrambles my outgoing messages, which is very strange, annoying, and has to be with T-Bird specifically because I don't have this issue with any other software.  For example, the line:


"The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"


Might be changed to:


"ver the lazy dogThe quick brown fox jumps o"


Obviously, this happens while I'm typing, but I have no way to know this.  So, I guess this is a two part question:


1. Has anyone experienced this behavior and knows of a solution?


2. More importantly: does anyone know of a chat program, besides Thunderbird and Trillian, that works well with NVDA?  I've tried mIRC and Pidgin, but both have issues with NVDA.


Thanks!


Gary

    





Re: To Rui Fontes

Bill Holton <bill32607@...>
 

Yes, but there was a set before the expressive voices, that's the one I want.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 10:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] To Rui Fontes

I'm not Rue, bugt if you are switching to JAWS Karen compact is on their downloads page for Vocoalizer Expressive II which works with JFW 18 and up.


On 4/18/2017 9:58 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
Hi.
I am trying to make the switch from WE to JAWS and NVDA. My problem is I have become so accustomed to the Australian Karen compact voice available with the first WE first set of Vocalizer voices. Is it possible to get this voice for NVDA and JAWS? Thanks.
Bill





Re: NVDA and LibreOfice annoyances - Two, three or many places?

Gene
 

In at least one of these programs, possibly both, some programs seem to work much better than others in  the suite, according to comments I've seen.  The word processor may work much better than one or more other programs do. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 6:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and LibreOfice annoyances - Two, three or many places?

I am sorry, but OpenOffice is even worse than LibreOffice.

It appears that the problems are related to the complexity of the
documents. For example, a LibreOffice Calc file with many spreadsheets,
fixed lines, formulas related to cells in other spreadsheets cause NVDA 
to stop working altogether, but only with LibreOffice. ALT TAB to other
programs and it is working. Go back to LibreOffice and it is muted.



Em 17/04/2017 14:51, Travis Siegel escreveu:
> Just for reference, I installed open office version 4.3 today, and it
> works just fine with NVDA.
>
> At least it did for opening and editing a word file.  Saving became
> problematic, as it wanted me to save in odt format instead of doc,
> since it said it would loose formatting information if I saved in the
> original doc format, which makes no sense to me, since it was opened
> in the original doc format, how could it loose information it already
> has?
>
> <shrug>
>
> But, as for functionality, I had no issues.
>
>
> On 4/17/2017 7:21 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote:
>> For many months I resisted to do this.
>>
>> But the only solution to this annoying behavior of LibreOffice/NVDA
>> was downgrading to LibreOffice 5.1.
>>
>> I don't have the patience, the knowledge or the time to look for what
>> changed from versions 5.1 to 5.2 of LibreOffice. but sure here lies
>> the cause of the problem I described months ago.
>>
>> Even if I don't like to use old versions of any software, it appears
>> that the problems of using LibreOffice with NVDA ARE FAR FROM BEING
>> SOLVED.
>>
>> I feell very sad because both programs are excellent and the problems
>> are just a few (but very annoying) and could very probably be solved
>> easily if both developers were willing to communicate with each other
>> and search the causes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Em 03/01/2017 10:00, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:
>>> In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to
>>> show only two or three decimal places.
>>>
>>> But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.
>>>
>>> When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to
>>> do NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with
>>> the two or three decimal places.
>>>
>>> I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015,
>>> but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: To Rui Fontes

Lino Morales
 

I'm not Rue, bugt if you are switching to JAWS Karen compact is on their downloads page for Vocoalizer Expressive II which works with JFW 18 and up.

On 4/18/2017 9:58 AM, Bill Holton wrote:
Hi.
I am trying to make the switch from WE to JAWS and NVDA. My problem is I have become so accustomed to the Australian Karen compact voice available with the first WE first set of Vocalizer voices. Is it possible to get this voice for NVDA and JAWS? Thanks.
Bill




To Rui Fontes

Bill Holton <bill32607@...>
 

Hi.
I am trying to make the switch from WE to JAWS and NVDA. My problem is I have become so accustomed to the Australian Karen compact voice available with the first WE first set of Vocalizer voices. Is it possible to get this voice for NVDA and JAWS? Thanks.
Bill


Re: nvda april 17th tech talk recording?

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,If you have a device that's capible of playing and managing podcasts, like qCast, a victor reader stream, or Apple device, you can subscribe to it as a podcast.To do that,use this link. http://accessibleworld.org/taxonomy/term/16/all/feed

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 18, 2017, at 12:25 AM, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote:

Hello I missed the tech talk recording of nvda and the changes can I get a link to the recording?

thanks

Hank






Re: NVDA and LibreOfice annoyances - Two, three or many places?

 

brian,
if you only need doc format you can use openoffice,
but if you need also saving as docx and send it for others
and edit the docx format without need conversion in to doc, you need
only libreoffice!
i read somewhere that docx and docm are about documents like doc extension!
but docx includes documents without macro and docm means the document
which it contains macro.
i am not sure is it completely true or not,
because i read thats possible to add macro in to docx too.
walmir,
openoffice for me in my system hangs, nvda stopps working and i need
to end task of nvda in the taskManager to work again,
but i dont have this problem using libreoffice.
thanks everyone and God bless you all.

On 4/18/17, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
I am sorry, but OpenOffice is even worse than LibreOffice.

It appears that the problems are related to the complexity of the
documents. For example, a LibreOffice Calc file with many spreadsheets,
fixed lines, formulas related to cells in other spreadsheets cause NVDA
to stop working altogether, but only with LibreOffice. ALT TAB to other
programs and it is working. Go back to LibreOffice and it is muted.



Em 17/04/2017 14:51, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Just for reference, I installed open office version 4.3 today, and it
works just fine with NVDA.

At least it did for opening and editing a word file. Saving became
problematic, as it wanted me to save in odt format instead of doc,
since it said it would loose formatting information if I saved in the
original doc format, which makes no sense to me, since it was opened
in the original doc format, how could it loose information it already
has?

<shrug>

But, as for functionality, I had no issues.


On 4/17/2017 7:21 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote:
For many months I resisted to do this.

But the only solution to this annoying behavior of LibreOffice/NVDA
was downgrading to LibreOffice 5.1.

I don't have the patience, the knowledge or the time to look for what
changed from versions 5.1 to 5.2 of LibreOffice. but sure here lies
the cause of the problem I described months ago.

Even if I don't like to use old versions of any software, it appears
that the problems of using LibreOffice with NVDA ARE FAR FROM BEING
SOLVED.

I feell very sad because both programs are excellent and the problems
are just a few (but very annoying) and could very probably be solved
easily if both developers were willing to communicate with each other
and search the causes.



Em 03/01/2017 10:00, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:
In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to
show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to
do NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with
the two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015,
but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.












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Re: Vocalizer Tiflotecnia VS Vocalizer Codefactory

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

The only advantage you have in changing is if you urgently need some of the new languages...

Otherwise, you will pay again what you already have...

And, if you use the automatic language switching, you will change to worse...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Supanut Leepaisomboon
Data: 18 de abril de 2017 00:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Vocalizer Tiflotecnia VS Vocalizer Codefactory



Hi all,

Since Vocalizer from Tiflotecnia doesn't seem to be receiving updates, I wonder is there any advantages in switching to the Codefactory version, in terms of the prospect of getting future updates and functionality? I checked the price of the Codefactory version, and looks like it's cheaper than the Tiflotecnia version.


Re: vocalizer tiflotecnia

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

After installed, the hardware do not need internet access, but is needed internet access to generate it.
This process can be made in the machine itsel or in another machine...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Isaac
Data: 18 de abril de 2017 00:43
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotecnia

well, you mean the new hardware based authorization doesn't need to contact
the internet. If that is the case then couldn't you fix this after six
months

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rui Fontes" <rui.fontes@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotecnia


Hello!

Yes, we will supportt the new voices.

We are with some problems with the new authorization, hardware based, not needing Internet conexion and with the adaptation of our infra-structure...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Lino Morales
Data: 14 de abril de 2017 18:59
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotecnia

Que pasa RUe? Will you all ever support the Vocalizer II voices that VFO
Group does in the future?


On 4/14/2017 11:53 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Yes, it will be released as soon as it is ready...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original----- De: Quentin Christensen
Data: 14 de abril de 2017 06:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotechnia


Rui from Tiflotechnica is on this forum so hopefully can answer, but in the meantime, are you experiencing a particular problem that you hope an update will resolve? Or is there a particular feature you would like in a new update?

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Isaac <bigikemusic@...> wrote:

Hi, are they ever going to update the driver and voices?















Re: Looking for the eloquence add-on

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

For me, the Eloquence included in the Vocalizer package have serious sound problems...

The Eloquence SAPI5 don't have that problem.

If you want to test it, you can get it on:
http://tiflotecnia.net/index_eloq.htm

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Brian's Mail list account
Data: 18 de abril de 2017 09:12
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Looking for the eloquence add-on

As far as I'm aware, its a complete package that you pay for including the
voice. There are two sources, one at present being better than the other.
Unfortunately, in case you do not know this. Although you may find eloquence
on many products you have, most are restricted for use . IE they only work
inside that program and have no facilities for use outside. Any hacks around
this are outside of the remit here, as we have to stay legal. Someone will
be along in a moment to point you at the web sites where you can buy the
official product, I'm sure.
I did notice that on some web sites you can still get a cut down Sapi 4
version of eloquence but I'm not sure if its still legal, or whether it can
offer the range of voices and controls in the main paid for packages.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 2:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] Looking for the eloquence add-on


Does anyone know where I can download the eloquence

Add-on? Thank you very very much in advance.



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Re: NVDA and LibreOfice annoyances - Two, three or many places?

Walmir Schultz
 

I am sorry, but OpenOffice is even worse than LibreOffice.

It appears that the problems are related to the complexity of the documents. For example, a LibreOffice Calc file with many spreadsheets, fixed lines, formulas related to cells in other spreadsheets cause NVDA to stop working altogether, but only with LibreOffice. ALT TAB to other programs and it is working. Go back to LibreOffice and it is muted.



Em 17/04/2017 14:51, Travis Siegel escreveu:

Just for reference, I installed open office version 4.3 today, and it works just fine with NVDA.

At least it did for opening and editing a word file. Saving became problematic, as it wanted me to save in odt format instead of doc, since it said it would loose formatting information if I saved in the original doc format, which makes no sense to me, since it was opened in the original doc format, how could it loose information it already has?

<shrug>

But, as for functionality, I had no issues.


On 4/17/2017 7:21 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote:
For many months I resisted to do this.

But the only solution to this annoying behavior of LibreOffice/NVDA was downgrading to LibreOffice 5.1.

I don't have the patience, the knowledge or the time to look for what changed from versions 5.1 to 5.2 of LibreOffice. but sure here lies the cause of the problem I described months ago.

Even if I don't like to use old versions of any software, it appears that the problems of using LibreOffice with NVDA ARE FAR FROM BEING SOLVED.

I feell very sad because both programs are excellent and the problems are just a few (but very annoying) and could very probably be solved easily if both developers were willing to communicate with each other and search the causes.



Em 03/01/2017 10:00, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:
In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to do NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with the two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015, but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.








NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys

It is Gene NZ (who is putting together the AccessibilityCentral.net
website).
Some people are aware of it and there are a few that are not. It is a
blindness related website where I also post both written and audio
tutorials for the NVDA screen reader, along with other blindness related
material.

These are fairly easy to follow, (that is they are step by step
instructions) and for a desktop computer.
They are basically, to get a new user of NVDA up and running.

At present, any that are written are identified under a heading on the
main AccessibilityCentral.net homepage of the website. The heading is
called pages recently updated, and they are listed below this heading or
put onto my AccessibilityCentral.net facebook page.

I have had a few people also suggest that when these tutorials go up (or
are passed on) to do with the NVDA screen reader, that I should let the
list know each time that they go up. These tutorials will only be the
ones that end up on the website. The notification will state on which
page they are on, or have come off. I will be doing this from now on.

PAGES RECENTLY UPDATED:
For both a written and audio tutorial on how to use the Microsoft Edge
browser with the NVDA screen reader (including a list of useful shortcut
keys) please visit the following link
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

I will add more tutorials to this thread as they are written up.

Gene NZ


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Re: NVDA and LibreOfice annoyances - Two, three or many places?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I think that too many people send files as docx and the other excel variants. The snag is that not all the parameters are always supported by conversion systems etc, and to me everything can be done in the old way in doc in any case.
I think Microsoft in pressing ahead with the X formats are making a mistake, personally. Its certainly caused me to have to send them back to companies and explain in very detailed terms why these do not always work for everyone.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and LibreOfice annoyances - Two, three or many places?


hello.
you should go to the options in tools menu.
in load save open general and uncheck Warn when not saving in ODF or
default format
then find always save as and change it in to Microsoft Word
97/2000/XP/2003 in the combo box.

openoffice does not save as docx and if you want to change your docx files,
you should save them in another formats except docx!
but libreoffice does not have this problem and supports even docx for
saving files.
hope that help.
God bless you.

On 4/17/17, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:
Just for reference, I installed open office version 4.3 today, and it
works just fine with NVDA.

At least it did for opening and editing a word file. Saving became
problematic, as it wanted me to save in odt format instead of doc, since
it said it would loose formatting information if I saved in the original
doc format, which makes no sense to me, since it was opened in the
original doc format, how could it loose information it already has?

<shrug>

But, as for functionality, I had no issues.


On 4/17/2017 7:21 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote:
For many months I resisted to do this.

But the only solution to this annoying behavior of LibreOffice/NVDA
was downgrading to LibreOffice 5.1.

I don't have the patience, the knowledge or the time to look for what
changed from versions 5.1 to 5.2 of LibreOffice. but sure here lies
the cause of the problem I described months ago.

Even if I don't like to use old versions of any software, it appears
that the problems of using LibreOffice with NVDA ARE FAR FROM BEING
SOLVED.

I feell very sad because both programs are excellent and the problems
are just a few (but very annoying) and could very probably be solved
easily if both developers were willing to communicate with each other
and search the causes.



Em 03/01/2017 10:00, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:
In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to
show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to do
NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with the
two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015,
but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.










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Re: Looking for the eloquence add-on

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

The one to go for is the code factory one from my brief tests some time ago now. I don't like Eloquence, preferring my voice Quincy, in Espeak, but then I would say that of course.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Looking for the eloquence add-on


The Eloquence add on is illegal, assuming you are asking about the free one and it can't be discussed on the list.

There are two legal ways to get Eloquence, one a SAPI 5 voice and the other is an add on you pay for that contains Eloquence and another synthesizer. The add on has many artifacts in the eloquence voice and you will likely not want it. The SAPI 5 Eloquence is good and you may be satisfied with it. Both are available as demos so you can evaluate them both before deciding if you want to purchase them.

It was a good while ago since I looked into these ways of getting Eloquence and I don't recall much about how you get the demos. Others on the list certainly can tell you.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Dan Thompson
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Looking for the eloquence add-on


Does anyone know where I can download the eloquence

Add-on? Thank you very very much in advance.



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Re: Windows Key commands not working?

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Yes a right pain in the posterior, in my view, they should not mess with default windows controls like this by default. I know a lot of sighted people who find keyboard control much better than touch or those loony mouse pads on the laptops, and its very frustrating to find you muted the sound when you meant to do something else.

Grr.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 12:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows Key commands not working?


Not the original query, but another similar thing to look out for, is that
on most older laptops, you can press the FN key with the function keys (F1
- F12) to do various functions like adjust the volume and screen
brightness. On a lot of new laptops, the function keys are set to do those
screen brightness and volume controls on their own and you have to press
FN+function key to do its original function. So, to close a window for
instance, on such a machine, you would have to press alt+fn+f4. Depending
on the machine, there may be a setting in say the keyboard or driver
options you can change to fix this, but on some, you need to do it in the
BIOS (which is not accessible).

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Yes one thing I've been warned about by RNIB is if buying a new laptop
particularly to have all the media keys disabled and put back to a standard
function set.
I had no idea that this sort of thing was being done as default these
days. Shows how long ago I bought a brand new machine.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2017 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows Key commands not working?


Hi!
Some system tray processes which come pre-installed on new computers are
quite aggressive and may eat up hotkeys. Have you checked if exiting some
of them solves the problem?
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher

Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> schrieb am So., 16. Apr. 2017
um
11:50 Uhr:

Oops! Thanks Gene! Yes, of course I did indeed mean NVDA+1 (the 1 key on
the number row, not the one in the number pad). I must have eaten too
much
Easter chocolate (or not enough) :)

Quentin.

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 7:37 PM, Gene New Zealand <
hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


This is what Quenton is referring to. He put in a typo it is nvda key + 1


This is from the user manual.


4.4. Input Help Mode
Many NVDA commands are mentioned throughout the rest of this user guide,
but an easy way to explore all the different commands is to turn on input
help.
To turn on input help, press NVDA+1. To turn it off, press NVDA+1 again.
While in input help, performing any input gesture (such as pressing a key
or performing a touch gesture) will report the action and describe what
it
does (if anything). The actual commands will not execute while in input
help mode.


Gene nz



On 16/04/2017 8:31 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

NVDA has a feature called "Input help". Press NVDA+f1 (the NVDA key is
usually INSERT, but you can also set it up as CAPS LOCK) to turn this on
-
when on, keys don't get passed through to Windows, so you can press any
keys you like to find out what they are and learn your way around a new
keyboard. Press NVDA+f1 again to turn it off.

Otherwise, let us know if restarting NVDA and / or restarting the
computer doesn't fix it.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Chris <chrismedley@...>
wrote:

Just out of curiousity you are pressing both key together and not
individually?










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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess