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Windows 10 App Essentials 17.03.2 released

 

Hi all,

I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 17.03.2. This is a minor bug fix release. You can check for new version via NVDA Menu/Preferences/Windows 10 App Essentials/Update (or let NVDA check for the updated add-on version for you).

 

More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.03.2

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

Gene
 

I tried it and it works. 
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

Hi,

This applies to tables with correct coding for table headers no matter where they are.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

I'll try it.


What effect does this have in other contexts?  If it impairs useability, I would think a profile would be the way to do this.  Is that correct?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:10 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

Hi,

Already possible: what happens if you tell NVDA to not announce table column headers?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

I can get rid of the constant repetition of the words to and from and subject when e-mail headers are read in e-mail programs by using the speech dictionary.  But considering that, after being heard a small number of times by inexperienced users, this verbiage gives no useful information and wastes time, could there be a feature you can turn on to eliminate such verbiage specifically and only in e-mail programs?  I imagine the feature would be limited to programs NVDA has been taught to work with in this way through scripts or in some other way.  Even if this were just done for about five popular programs, Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird, and the Windows 10 mail app, I expect it would make going through messages much more pleasant for a lot of users.

 

Gene


Re: Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

Hi,

This applies to tables with correct coding for table headers no matter where they are.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

I'll try it.


What effect does this have in other contexts?  If it impairs useability, I would think a profile would be the way to do this.  Is that correct?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:10 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

Hi,

Already possible: what happens if you tell NVDA to not announce table column headers?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

I can get rid of the constant repetition of the words to and from and subject when e-mail headers are read in e-mail programs by using the speech dictionary.  But considering that, after being heard a small number of times by inexperienced users, this verbiage gives no useful information and wastes time, could there be a feature you can turn on to eliminate such verbiage specifically and only in e-mail programs?  I imagine the feature would be limited to programs NVDA has been taught to work with in this way through scripts or in some other way.  Even if this were just done for about five popular programs, Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird, and the Windows 10 mail app, I expect it would make going through messages much more pleasant for a lot of users.

 

Gene


Re: Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

Gene
 

I'll try it.

What effect does this have in other contexts?  If it impairs useability, I would think a profile would be the way to do this.  Is that correct?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

Hi,

Already possible: what happens if you tell NVDA to not announce table column headers?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

I can get rid of the constant repetition of the words to and from and subject when e-mail headers are read in e-mail programs by using the speech dictionary.  But considering that, after being heard a small number of times by inexperienced users, this verbiage gives no useful information and wastes time, could there be a feature you can turn on to eliminate such verbiage specifically and only in e-mail programs?  I imagine the feature would be limited to programs NVDA has been taught to work with in this way through scripts or in some other way.  Even if this were just done for about five popular programs, Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird, and the Windows 10 mail app, I expect it would make going through messages much more pleasant for a lot of users.

 

Gene


Re: Last two next snaps will not install on xp

Gene
 

I just tried the current snapshot and the previous one.  They both ran properly.  I used the continue running option but according to Brian's message, the installer didn't run at all in the previous version so how I ran or installed the program shouldn't matter.  I'm using XP service pack 3.  Aside from not knowing if this is a very limited or a wider problem, it might be useful to know if Brian has this problem on more than one XP machine, if he has more than one.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Last two next snaps will not install on xp

Brian,

There's a Next build from today: 13946,38d8ee77 Fri Mar 24 00:38:04 2017, not sure if you've tried that one and had any success.  The two before that:

13944,8cd12221 Wed Mar 22 22:17:52 2017
13942,3c28c06f Tue Mar 21 22:45:54 2017


are I'm guessing the ones you were having trouble with?  If you go back to the one before that (or earlier): 13934,d4725475 Mon Mar 20 00:22:43 2017 - does it install?

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Explorer error and error then quits.
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Re: Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

Hi,

Already possible: what happens if you tell NVDA to not announce table column headers?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

 

I can get rid of the constant repetition of the words to and from and subject when e-mail headers are read in e-mail programs by using the speech dictionary.  But considering that, after being heard a small number of times by inexperienced users, this verbiage gives no useful information and wastes time, could there be a feature you can turn on to eliminate such verbiage specifically and only in e-mail programs?  I imagine the feature would be limited to programs NVDA has been taught to work with in this way through scripts or in some other way.  Even if this were just done for about five popular programs, Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird, and the Windows 10 mail app, I expect it would make going through messages much more pleasant for a lot of users.

 

Gene


Eliminating excess verbiage in e-mail programs

Gene
 

I can get rid of the constant repetition of the words to and from and subject when e-mail headers are read in e-mail programs by using the speech dictionary.  But considering that, after being heard a small number of times by inexperienced users, this verbiage gives no useful information and wastes time, could there be a feature you can turn on to eliminate such verbiage specifically and only in e-mail programs?  I imagine the feature would be limited to programs NVDA has been taught to work with in this way through scripts or in some other way.  Even if this were just done for about five popular programs, Outlook Express, Outlook, Windows Live Mail, Thunderbird, and the Windows 10 mail app, I expect it would make going through messages much more pleasant for a lot of users.
 
Gene


Re: Last two next snaps will not install on xp

Quentin Christensen
 

Brian,

There's a Next build from today: 13946,38d8ee77 Fri Mar 24 00:38:04 2017, not sure if you've tried that one and had any success.  The two before that:

13944,8cd12221 Wed Mar 22 22:17:52 2017
13942,3c28c06f Tue Mar 21 22:45:54 2017


are I'm guessing the ones you were having trouble with?  If you go back to the one before that (or earlier): 13934,d4725475 Mon Mar 20 00:22:43 2017 - does it install?

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:14 PM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Explorer error and error then quits.
Brian

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Re: certification test

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Simon,

Well done on sitting the exam.  I'm not sure what the limits are of what is and isn't possible with the certification system, but it's great to get feedback and ideas, so I will definitely let the others know at least.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Simon Jaeger <simon@...> wrote:

I sat the exam and will probably be getting a proper certificate soon when I can actually afford it. I'm curious though; is there some way we could have the ability to see which questions we got wrong--or at least see our scores for each of the sections individually? I realize the former might be difficult to code depending on how it's designed, so I hardly expect this to be on the priority list.


Simon



On 2017-03-21 19:31, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Awesome. Thank you for the info.
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] certification test

Hi Gene,

Sorry I didn't get to help you earlier, glad you got the login sorted out.

The cost of the certification is $100 AUD, which works out to around $75 USD (or thereabouts currently, depending on the exchange rate).  The rate for renewals is 50% ($50 AUD or $38 USD or thereabouts, which is a yearly renewal.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@....nz> wrote:

hi


It looked as though i had to change to another password without certain symbols been repeated I have logged in and had a play with the test i think i need to get quicker.


Gene nz



On 21/03/2017 1:14 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Gene,

Yes, the certification is up and running now.  We had a couple of beta testers and then quietly soft-launched it just as we left for CSUN, to try and catch any bugs before they affected too many people.  So we haven't promoted it too hard yet.


Anyone can do the exam, there is no cost for sitting the test, however, after passing the text, to purchase a certificate and have your name added to the certified individuals list costs AUD $100, which is roughly $75 USD (depending on the current exchange rate).  You have 55 minutes to complete the test.

If you have worked through the "Basic Training for NVDA" module, and understood the material, you should be well prepared for the exam, however it is important to stress that purchase of the training module is not required to sit the exam or become certified.

Also, for those who have done the certification, apologies for the delay, I'm about to send the certificates out this morning.

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:51 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...z> wrote:

Hi Quentin.


I was just reading the archive of the in process blog and also read the part about NVDA certification.

 Is this up and running? and what cost is it?

by the way how logn does the certification last for? i have never done one? Plus what sorta time limit and amount of questions?


Gene nz




On 20/03/2017 11:31 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Up the top of the page is a link to "log in".  If you go to that link, it takes you to: https://certification.nvaccess.org/login where you can create an account (note that form lets you log in with an existing account as well, so make sure you are in the right part).

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Shaun Oliver <blindman75@...> wrote:
interesting, I didn't see any such detail on the page when I went there. however, I shall have another look.




On 7/03/2017 12:27, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The login page apparently has instructions on creating an account. For those in the States, the first time certification fee is about 76 dollars, with the renewal fee being half of that.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 5:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] certification test

As would I. it is something that has interested me ever since the concept was introduced.



On 7/03/2017 10:07, Dan Thompson wrote:
I would also like to look into this.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 12:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] certification test

I didn't know about this either!
How do I register?

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Artin Dekker
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 6:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] certification test

Hi,


How can I create an account for the NVDA certification test at certification.nvaccess.org?

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Re: nvda (next 13944,8cd12221) and addon focus highlight (ver 4) in file explorer (win10 1607 - 14393.969 are triggering anerror sound

Takuya Nishimoto
 

Hello,

Thank you for reporting issue with FocusHighlight.
I will investigate it later.

For your information, this addon uses the following GitHub issues.

https://github.com/nvdajp/focushighlight/issues


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2017-03-23 19:58 GMT+09:00 J.G <jozko.gregorc@...>:

Hi,


has anyone, who uses nvda with focus highlight addon found next problem:

- start file explorer

- tab to listview

expected: normal navigation

actual: an error sound and nvda does not show a content of folder.

I don't know if this problem exists in earlier versions of nvda but I found
it in last next snapshot.

I think that problem is with focus highlight, because when I have disabled
this addon, Nvda worked normaly.


Any solution?


Thanks.


regards, Jožef


Re: Publishing an eBook with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Were you asking about how to obtain Calibre?  Sorry, I meant to include the link in my earlier e-mail.  Download it from https://calibre-ebook.com/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:04 PM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:

I used Google to look for Codex and James Scholes it was the first or second result.

 

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: slery
Sent: 21 March 2017 05:01


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Publishing an eBook with NVDA

 

How does one obtain this program?

 

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 7:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Publishing an eBook with NVDA

 

I thought it was just worth mentioning that the Codex program produced for VI Users by James Scholes includes an Explorer context menu shortcut which converts from many document formats to ePub Mobi and  other formats and back.

 

So with this program just focus on your Word Document  in Explorer, bring up the context menu, select Codex and then convert to ePub from your available options.

Seems to work fine in the limited use I have made of it.

This program is most often cited for Kindle DRM Removal but these other ottions are also very useful.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: 20 March 2017 10:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Publishing an eBook with NVDA

 

I haven't used Smashwords, although I have published on other platforms.  One tool I have used is Calibre which converts documents to and from a number of formats, including ePub (and mobi).

 

Once you have an ePub, it's worth running through: http://validator.idpf.org/ which will test whether there are any major ePub validation errors which will often throw up red flags on various publishing sites (Apple iBooks will reject books which don't pass that validator for instance - or at least, if they reject you, they recommend fixing any errors that site shows).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 11:16 AM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:

Hi David,

I have published a book on smashwords some years ago.  The process is accessible but you need your book formatted correctly which is where you  may want to get sighted assistance to verify the formatting like uniform fonts being used etc. Yes, it may be possible to format correctly with NVDA but the process is tedious not because of NVDA but the way a screen reader works and presents information via speech. If we could get a tool like the Jaws text analyser,  verifying formatting etc., would become easier. Yes, there is already a ticket about this.

Pranav



 

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Re: NV Access's In-Process blog - featuring Mick driving aspeedboat near an aircraft carrier!

Quentin Christensen
 

All the best David, I will keep an eye out to make up your certificate and send it out!

The certification (and list of certified experts) is available from: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:25 AM, <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi Quinton,

Thanks a lot for this. I will take the test.

I can't wait. I will pay to be certified!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NV Access's In-Process blog - featuring Mick driving aspeedboat near an aircraft carrier!

 

Hi Gene,

 

The certification is available from: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

 

Good question re the commands.  It is definitely worth understanding both sets of commands, particularly if you are teaching or providing support to other users who might be using one or the other keyboard layout.  There might be a couple of questions which list only the desktop or laptop command, but the majority of the questions do include both, for instance, "What does NVDA+up arrow (laptop: NVDA+l) do?"

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@....nz> wrote:

Hi Quentin.

 

Thanks for that i just read the issue that i missed out on saying about the nvda certification etc. I did see reference to it on the list and will probably sit it if it is up and running which it looks like it is.

 

I hope there is no lap top commands i only know desk top or is it more multi choice?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 21/03/2017 12:39 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

The archive is here: http://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

 

We are very slowly planning an updated website, so there are some things we'd like to do, which may not make it into the current site, but which will hopefully be available once the new site is launched.  I know a more easily findable In-Process is on my wish list :)

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 5:22 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@....nz> wrote:

Hi Quentin.

 

out of curiosity where about is the archive keeped if any if some one wanted to look over the older in process issues?

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 18/03/2017 1:17 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

The NV Access team are fresh from CSUN 2017.  It has news and updates on current projects.  It has a link to the post published at CSUN (that I may or may not have forgotten to actually promote anywhere).  More importantly, this week's In-Process has Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!

 

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

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the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
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the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
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Re: Last two next snaps will not install on xp

Bill Dengler
 

Why are we still trying to support XP? It went EOL back in 2014. XP users can use an old NVDA version like win2000 users.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Title Bar Reading Issue

Jonathan Milam
 

Thanks, Joseph.  I will see if perhaps the vendor can do something to fix that.

 

Jonathan

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Title Bar Reading Issue

 

Hi,

I’ve seen this behavior in SPL. Looks like focus event is fired by the title bar, which is actually the correct behavior, in that it lets users know where one is at.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Title Bar Reading Issue

 

Hi All,

 

I am working with Wireready, a broadcast automation program, and whenever I exit one of its dialogs, NVDA wants to read the title bar of the application.  For example, if I invoke a find command and press enter, before NVDA reads the found text, it will always read the title bar first.  I am only seeing this behavior within this application.  I do know that the title bar contains a countdown timer, so could this be the issue?  Any ideas from anyone on why this would be?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan


Re: Title Bar Reading Issue

 

Hi,

I’ve seen this behavior in SPL. Looks like focus event is fired by the title bar, which is actually the correct behavior, in that it lets users know where one is at.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jonathan Milam
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 12:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Title Bar Reading Issue

 

Hi All,

 

I am working with Wireready, a broadcast automation program, and whenever I exit one of its dialogs, NVDA wants to read the title bar of the application.  For example, if I invoke a find command and press enter, before NVDA reads the found text, it will always read the title bar first.  I am only seeing this behavior within this application.  I do know that the title bar contains a countdown timer, so could this be the issue?  Any ideas from anyone on why this would be?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan


Title Bar Reading Issue

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi All,

 

I am working with Wireready, a broadcast automation program, and whenever I exit one of its dialogs, NVDA wants to read the title bar of the application.  For example, if I invoke a find command and press enter, before NVDA reads the found text, it will always read the title bar first.  I am only seeing this behavior within this application.  I do know that the title bar contains a countdown timer, so could this be the issue?  Any ideas from anyone on why this would be?

 

Thanks,

Jonathan


Re: NVDA changing tab order

@JoseP
 

Yeah, we know it'd be ideal to switch to HTML5, but this is an old application developed several years ago and now the client wants it to be accessible. Moving everything to HTML5 would be too much work.


Re: PHPstorm and NVDA

Bogdan Onyshenko
 

Great question about accessibility in mind. I don't know honestly. But Access bridge is enabled.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Just a thought, are the two java access bridges activated, and  also is it supposed to be accessible. I have to say I've not heard of it but having used some Java written apps I know that unless the authors were aware of accessibility almost anything can and does happen!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bogdan Onyshenko" <bogdanus91@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2017 6:38 AM
Subject: [nvda] PHPstorm and NVDA


Hello all. Please help. Here is the problem: when I try to use a PHPstorm
IDE by Jetbrains it is written on Java I have a problem with it's editor.
When I start to edit the text write somethin I can't access the previous
text that I wrote one symbol ago or line. In order to be able to read
everythin I have written I have to press Alt+Tab and focus an other window
and go back to the IDE. How can I avoid pressing Alt+Tab and read text
normaly? I have NVDA version 2017.1 and Phpstorm version 2016-3-3.

P.S. Sorry for my bad spelling. I will do my best to improve it.







Re: Last two next snaps will not install on xp

 

hi brian.
do you mean that nvda 2017.2 won't install on xp?

On 3/23/17, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Explorer error and error then quits.
Brian

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Re: Reading PDFs

 

i am not familiar with these kinds of pdfs.
i use firefox for openning, copy and peist the content of usual pdf
documents in to other programs like notepad++ or libreoffice.

On 3/23/17, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Unfortunately, many of the pdfs one gets today are untagged and have reading

orders set to all worts of things so if columns do vary through the doc,
whatever you do with the file will end up wrong either in the order of pages

or with no spaces or with columns running together in one long line or
increasingly just no text whatsoever as its just a picture.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading PDFs


hello.
if you only need its content, you can open it with firefox.
write the last page number in the spin button which you can type.
then, a little waite and after that, copy all of your text and peist
it in other programs.
if i have one pdf english, i do this or use sumatraPdfReader to open
the pdf file and save it as txt.
i dont use any commercial programs like adobe products for this purpose.
hope that help.
i am very glad to help and God bless you all.

On 3/21/17, Peter Chin <peter.chinpk@...> wrote:
Dear Listers,

Someone sent me a protected PDF file but I couldn't read it with Adobe
Acrobat Reader XI. There was a message about some DLL file being missing.

Is

there anything I can do to get back the DLL file short of reinstalling
Acrobat?

Thanks in advance.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Oros
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Reading PDFs

Hi!

I am sorry for this e-mail, but I am little frustrated. Abbii fine
reader isn't well for reading PDF. Those PDFs are manuals in English
language and ofcourse, Mozilla reads PDF very bad.

Also, I have heard, that new version of Adobe acrobat reader isn't very
well accessible.

Please, could You help me?

Thank You!

Marco Oros








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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
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al-islam.org





--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org