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Re: Questions and suggestions

Andre Fisher
 

What is specifically wrong with the way NVDA handles web browsing?

On 2/24/17, Dennis L <dennisl1982@...> wrote:
I agree. I agree. I also think NVDA needs to do work with web browsing.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



Agreed here completely. This should be a core NVDA function, and not only
available by installing an add-on. But this has been hashed out before, with
NVDA developers ignoring the desires of some of us users.

Travis

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



That isn't the reason and that argument is irrelevant. The system tray
wasn't accessible years ago through Windows. There needed to be a
screen-reader dialog to provide access. That's how the whole separate
access got started and System Access uses the same command. Window-eyes
uses a different command but it too provides a system tray dialog.



There are times, like it or not, when the dialog works better than using the
Windows access method and it should be provided as a part of screen-readers.




Sometimes, I get access to something using the Windows method when the
dialog doesn't work properly and at other times, I have found the only way
I've gotten access to an item is by using the dialog. These instances where
one or the other method doesn't work are rare but the argument that the
screen-reader dialog method is nothing but duplication is not correct.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Travis Siegel <mailto:tsiegel@...>

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:21 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



Because NVDA is not jaws, and there's no reason to make it mirror jaws
keystrokes. The windows-b keystroke will work no matter what you use for a
screen reader, since it's a windows command. That's why NVDA uses it.
There is no dedicated NVDA keystroke for this function.





On 2/23/2017 8:36 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey. Why not
make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien
Sykes-Lindley
Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions



Hi Gene,

Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a program
is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to memorise all of
them. But at least they’re there!

The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is that,
because they are global throughout the whole system, it can unfortunately
cause conflicts with other running applications that utilise those
shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q shortcut to launch QWS
(a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit.
I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p for
next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey, and then
it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m definitely all
for hotkeys!

As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating that
there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys and yet it
is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even more so for
global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only have ctrl+alt and
ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be able
to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.

First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it all
the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason it didn’t
cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is also controlled by
explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail view, and the desktop
shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems.
Strange how brains work!

Cheers.
Damien.





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Re: getting NVDA to indicate capital letters

Gene
 

Open voice settings with NVDA key v. 
Tab through the items in the dialog and you'll see an edit field where you can type a numeric entry for the pitch of capital letters.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 6:36 PM
Subject: [nvda] getting NVDA to indicate capital letters

Hi,  is there any way to get NVDA  to indicate capital letters with a higher pitch sound in the TTs similar to Jaws?  Thanks..


Announcing immediate release of Enhanced Touch gestures add-on version 17.03

 

Hi all,

 

For those who are using NVDA on toushcreen computers: Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on 17.03 is now available. This version resolves incompatibility with NVDA 2017.1 (specifically, it now deals with multi-monitor setups). More info can be found at:

https://github.com/josephsl/enhancedTouchGestures/releases/tag/17.03

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: getting NVDA to indicate capital letters

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Using Eloquence is this possible?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting NVDA to indicate capital letters

 

Yes, depending on the TTS Synth used.  Many support raising pitch for caps and you can set this in voice settings.

Roger







On 2/24/2017 6:36 PM, Dennis L wrote:

Hi,  is there any way to get NVDA  to indicate capital letters with a higher pitch sound in the TTs similar to Jaws?  Thanks..

 


Re: getting NVDA to indicate capital letters

Roger Stewart
 

Yes, depending on the TTS Synth used.  Many support raising pitch for caps and you can set this in voice settings.

Roger







On 2/24/2017 6:36 PM, Dennis L wrote:

Hi,  is there any way to get NVDA  to indicate capital letters with a higher pitch sound in the TTs similar to Jaws?  Thanks..



getting NVDA to indicate capital letters

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi,  is there any way to get NVDA  to indicate capital letters with a higher pitch sound in the TTs similar to Jaws?  Thanks..


Re: Questions and suggestions

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I agree.  I agree.  I also think NVDA needs to do work with web browsing.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kwork
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 5:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

Agreed here completely. This should be a core NVDA function, and not only available by installing an add-on. But this has been hashed out before, with NVDA developers ignoring the desires of some of us users.

Travis

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

That isn't the reason and that argument is irrelevant.  The system tray wasn't accessible years ago through Windows.  There needed to be a screen-reader dialog to provide access.  That's how the whole separate access got started and System Access uses the same command.  Window-eyes uses a different command but it too provides a system tray dialog. 

 

There are times, like it or not, when the dialog works better than using the Windows access method and it should be provided as a part of screen-readers. 

 

Sometimes, I get access to something using the Windows method when the dialog doesn't work properly and at other times, I have found the only way I've gotten access to an item is by using the dialog.  These instances where one or the other method doesn't work are rare but the argument that the screen-reader dialog method is nothing but duplication is not correct. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:21 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

Because NVDA is not jaws, and there's no reason to make it mirror jaws keystrokes.  The windows-b keystroke will work no matter what you use for a screen reader, since it's a windows command.  That's why NVDA uses it.  There is no dedicated NVDA keystroke for this function.

 

 

On 2/23/2017 8:36 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey. Why not make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

Hi Gene,

Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a program is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to memorise all of them. But at least they’re there!

The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is that, because they are global throughout the whole system, it can unfortunately cause conflicts with other running applications that utilise those shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q shortcut to launch QWS (a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit. I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p for next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey, and then it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m definitely all for hotkeys!

As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating that there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys and yet it is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even more so for global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only have ctrl+alt and ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be able to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.

First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it all the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason it didn’t cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is also controlled by explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail view, and the desktop shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems. Strange how brains work!

Cheers.
Damien.




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eloquence issue figured out

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, I figured the issue.  You have to uncheck the number processing in eloquence.


Re: Thanks, congratulations, and any info about sales force

Arlene
 

Woo hoo! Right on! Hurray for NVDA!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: February-24-17 2:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Thanks, congratulations, and any info about sales force

Hello all, I think today was a good day for NVDA, it's developers, it's
community, and well, modest little oll me.

I'm expecting to be hired by a company that does business to business
technical support. Today, they finally brought me in for my first
consultation. Six weeks ago, I registered my need for a screen reader by
way of accomodation, and recommended jaws and NVDA to be tested for
compatibility with the company's software. This morning, when I arrived for
my consultation, I found the company had opted for NVDA.
They sited significant performance breaks over jaws, and the fact that they
have python programmers on staff to handle scripting as reasons for choosing
NVDA as well as the fact that I had stated a preference for using it.

This morning I demonstrated that NVDA could be successfully used with sales
force, a ticketing and databasing system commonly used by telecom companies.
There are some design issues with sales force that need to be worked out,
but things are very close to being fully accessible out of the box. If any
one has experience using sales force, It would be great to hear from you.

The people I spoke with this morning were very receptive to the openness of
NVDA, and so I hope that when their implementation goes into effect, they
will contribute to the NVDA community accordingly.

So, it's not perfect yet, but all in all I have had a pretty successful day
thanks to NVDA.

Have fun,

Erik


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does nvda have number processing?

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, is there a way  to tell nvda how to handle number processing?


Re: Thanks, congratulations, and any info about sales force

Mallard
 

Erik,


Congratulations! I've followed you on a couple of lists for a few years now, and I'm really glad you got this job.


And I join in thanking and congratulating NVDA devs, and the whole community as well, for making this screen reader so powerful and successful.

Ciao,
Ollie


Re: NVDA Web Browser Problem

Kwork
 

I also remember reading that Mathplayer is not supposed to be uninstalled once installed as it could break other parts of the system. It was a warning I saw when installing Mathplayer for the first time.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

This illustrates my point.  The phrase "stuck with Math Player" sounds as though it is a meaningful imposition to have it.  It takes up very little room and does nothing when not being used. 
As I said, the presumption that programs should reflexively and routinely be uninstalled is one that should be reexamined.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

When I was having the problem, NVDA could not access Firefox or Internet
Explorer.  Fortunately, everything is now running fine once MathPlayer was
re-installed.

It looks Like I am stuck with MathPlayer.


Regards
Louis Maher
Phone: 713-444-7838
E-mail: ljmaher@...

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Mail list account
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 4:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem

Do any html pages in any browser work?
 Brian

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From: "Louis Maher" <ljmaher@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 6:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Web Browser Problem


> Folks,
>
> Several weeks ago, my NVDA (version 16.4) was unable to access Firefox
> (51.?).  When I opened a webpage, the arrow keys just said unknown when I
> used them.  I uninstalled NVDA and Firefox and re-installed both.  I am
> now
> on NVDA 17.1), and I have the same issue.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Louis Maher
> Phone: 713-444-7838
> E-mail: ljmaher@...
>
>
>
>
>







Re: Questions and suggestions

Kwork
 


Agreed here completely. This should be a core NVDA function, and not only available by installing an add-on. But this has been hashed out before, with NVDA developers ignoring the desires of some of us users.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

That isn't the reason and that argument is irrelevant.  The system tray wasn't accessible years ago through Windows.  There needed to be a screen-reader dialog to provide access.  That's how the whole separate access got started and System Access uses the same command.  Window-eyes uses a different command but it too provides a system tray dialog. 
 
There are times, like it or not, when the dialog works better than using the Windows access method and it should be provided as a part of screen-readers. 
 
Sometimes, I get access to something using the Windows method when the dialog doesn't work properly and at other times, I have found the only way I've gotten access to an item is by using the dialog.  These instances where one or the other method doesn't work are rare but the argument that the screen-reader dialog method is nothing but duplication is not correct. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

Because NVDA is not jaws, and there's no reason to make it mirror jaws keystrokes.  The windows-b keystroke will work no matter what you use for a screen reader, since it's a windows command.  That's why NVDA uses it.  There is no dedicated NVDA keystroke for this function.



On 2/23/2017 8:36 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey. Why not make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

Hi Gene,

Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a program is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to memorise all of them. But at least they’re there!

The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is that, because they are global throughout the whole system, it can unfortunately cause conflicts with other running applications that utilise those shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q shortcut to launch QWS (a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit. I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p for next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey, and then it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m definitely all for hotkeys!

As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating that there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys and yet it is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even more so for global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only have ctrl+alt and ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be able to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.

First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it all the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason it didn’t cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is also controlled by explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail view, and the desktop shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems. Strange how brains work!

Cheers.
Damien.





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Thanks, congratulations, and any info about sales force

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hello all, I think today was a good day for NVDA, it's developers, it's community, and well, modest little oll me.

I'm expecting to be hired by a company that does business to business technical support. Today, they finally brought me in for my first consultation. Six weeks ago, I registered my need for a screen reader by way of accomodation, and recommended jaws and NVDA to be tested for compatibility with the company's software. This morning, when I arrived for my consultation, I found the company had opted for NVDA.
They sited significant performance breaks over jaws, and the fact that they have python programmers on staff to handle scripting as reasons for choosing NVDA as well as the fact that I had stated a preference for using it.

This morning I demonstrated that NVDA could be successfully used with sales force, a ticketing and databasing system commonly used by telecom companies. There are some design issues with sales force that need to be worked out, but things are very close to being fully accessible out of the box. If any one has experience using sales force, It would be great to hear from you.

The people I spoke with this morning were very receptive to the openness of NVDA, and so I hope that when their implementation goes into effect, they will contribute to the NVDA community accordingly.

So, it's not perfect yet, but all in all I have had a pretty successful day thanks to NVDA.

Have fun,

Erik


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Re: Strange behavior in Gmail

mk360
 

I don't have this problem, and gmail is one of the most accessible sites of Google if you read the instructions from google and change actively between nav and browse modes.

However, I use Thunderbird in my home because it works faster, but the Web interface works great and is my choice in my office.


Regards,

mk.

El 24/02/2017 a las 18:28, Arlene escribió:
Hi, Using the gmail site is clunky! I have gmail set up in outlook.

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Sent: February-24-17 1:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior in Gmail

I don't use their webmail but sometimes layout can be an issue, but not that often.
I find the web interface clunky.
Brian

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From: "Øyvind Lode" <oyvind.lode@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior in Gmail


I'm using gmail as well and I don't have this problem.
I'm using gmail standard view with firefox 51.0.1 and my screen reader
of choice is of course NVDA.
I'm running NVDA 2017.1.


On 23 February 2017 at 14:22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
What browser and screen-reader are you using? Try whatever you like, a
different screen-reader, a different browser, or both. Rarely, I have a
page that doesn't display properly and changing what is being used solves
the problem. Or just use the read to end command and don't down arrow
through the message. I'm not sure if reading will be as smooth as
desired,
but it may be reasonably adequate.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arnþór Helgason
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Strange behavior in Gmail

I think I have raised this topic before.

When I write an email in Gmail only one word appears in each line.
Is there anything which can be done about it?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
arnthor.helgason@...









using libreoffice base with NVDA

Martin O'Sullivan
 

I have setup a MySql database using Libreoffice


getting it to talk to the MySql database was difficult enough. however I found out how to do it at the following web pages.

LibreOffice: 'com.mysql.jdbc.driver' cannot be loaded http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27102600/libreoffice-com-mysql-jdbc-driver-cannot-be-loaded

 Base and MySQL: getting started [closed] https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/1822/base-and-mysql-getting-started/


However now that it is working I cant get NVDA to read the tables.  Does NVDA support  Libreoffice Base ?


Would I be better off to switch over to linux and use orca for this kind of stuff?

    





Re: Strange behavior in Gmail

Arlene
 

Hi, Using the gmail site is clunky! I have gmail set up in outlook.

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior in Gmail

I don't use their webmail but sometimes layout can be an issue, but not that often.
I find the web interface clunky.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Strange behavior in Gmail


I'm using gmail as well and I don't have this problem.
I'm using gmail standard view with firefox 51.0.1 and my screen reader
of choice is of course NVDA.
I'm running NVDA 2017.1.


On 23 February 2017 at 14:22, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
What browser and screen-reader are you using? Try whatever you like, a
different screen-reader, a different browser, or both. Rarely, I have a
page that doesn't display properly and changing what is being used solves
the problem. Or just use the read to end command and don't down arrow
through the message. I'm not sure if reading will be as smooth as
desired,
but it may be reasonably adequate.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arnþór Helgason
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Strange behavior in Gmail

I think I have raised this topic before.

When I write an email in Gmail only one word appears in each line.
Is there anything which can be done about it?

Best regards,

Arnthor Helgason
arnthor.helgason@...




Re: Questions and suggestions

Arlene
 

Oh okay, I seen this for the first time when I installed NVDA! Not knowing it was a windows thing!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: February-24-17 5:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

Windows b is a windows command not NVDA, it’s been around for years.

 

Cheers 

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 24 February 2017 01:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

Hi, I don’t know if I can say here! When you go to your system trey. Why not make future builds of NVDA be insert F 11? Instead of windows B. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: February-23-17 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions and suggestions

 

Hi Gene,

Hotkeys are indeed excellent. One of the first thing I look for in a program is hotkeys. In fact, some have so many that it’s hard to memorise all of them. But at least they’re there!

The only problem I have with Windows shortcuts being linked to them is that, because they are global throughout the whole system, it can unfortunately cause conflicts with other running applications that utilise those shortcuts. For instance, I could assign a ctrl+alt+q shortcut to launch QWS (a MIDI sequencer), and another application may use ctrl+alt+q to mean quit. I have known ctrl+alt+o for options, ctrl+alt+x for exit, ctrl+alt+n/p for next/previous, all of which can be assigned to a Windows hotkey, and then it’s touch and go as to which item activates. Otherwise, I’m definitely all for hotkeys!

As an aside, I must admit I do find it odd, and mildly frustrating that there are four modifier keys that can be used to register hotkeys and yet it is still possible to run out of logical keys! This is even more so for global shortcut-linked ones, since I think you can only have ctrl+alt and ctrl+shift combos. Possibly if you’re extremely dextrous you might be able to have ctrl+shift+alt, I haven’t dared to try that one. Lol.

First letter navigation. Now you mention it I am aware of it. I use it all the time to move quickly to files in Explorer. But for some reason it didn’t cross my mind for the desktop (even though I know that is also controlled by explorer). I guess because my explorer is in detail view, and the desktop shows as a sort of grid layout I treated them as two separate systems. Strange how brains work!

Cheers.
Damien.


Questions about Edge

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


I know edge is still a work in progress, so no need to reitterate that fact.
 
That said, I confess I've not really played much with Edge on my system. With the most recent official build of NVDA, 2017.1, and considering that I indeed do! have the most recent version of Windows 10 essentials, what things can! NVDA do well with Edge, and more importantly, where are there still issues underlying? Please be as specific as you possibly can. I don't mind your message having a bit of length volume to it. I'd prefer as much detail as possible.
 
Chris.
 


Re: Cell reporting in the Document formatting menu

Dejan Ristic
 

Thank you, thank you, friend.


I'm going to experiment.


On 2/24/2017 6:57 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if there is any such adjust ment for the status line.  I doubt it but we'll see what others say. 
 
As far as the NVDA setting is concerned, open the nvda menu and open preferences.  Find and press enter on review cursor.  You are now in a dialog.  Uncheck the item you are on with the space bar.  Tab to and uncheck the next one as well. The items are follow system Focus and follow system carret.  After unchecking these items, press enter.  The dialog is now closed and the settings have been changed.  
When you want to change them back, use the command NVDA Key r.  You should hear configuration applied.  The configuration NVDA uses when it runs is now being used again.  That will save you the trouble of changing the settings manually.
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cell reporting in the Document formatting menu

The window is maximized. In the status line, I'm not able to hear the cell reporting. It reports the page number and the number of words. It also reports the current language. I've also tried by hitting NVDA and B to have everything read for me. It reads all, including what the status line presents. Is there an option in Word to be turned on so that the cells in a line may be shown? How can I turn on that option, so that the review does not follow the cursor?

   
On 2/24/2017 5:32 PM, Gene wrote:
It would be a good idea to have this feature available but you may be doing extra work to find the information now.  the read status line command may read such information in Jarte and Ted.  Have you tried it in Word? 
 
In Microsoft Word, is the window maximized?  I don't know if it matters but Word used to have a status line.  I don't know what newer versions do.  As far as hearing such information read using screen review, are you familiar with the option in NVDA to not have the review follow the cursor?  You could turn on this option, then move to the bottom of the screen with review commands and find the place where you want to hear the information on the bottom line,  If you leave the review cursor there, it will read the number any time you use numpad 5 for read current character.  You can move around the document with the application cursor and never disturb the review position. 
 
Also, the command shift numpad 9 moves the review position to the end of the bottom line on screen.  This saves you the trouble of moving to it initially.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 10:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] Cell reporting in the Document formatting menu

Hi to all,


It would be extremely great to have column numbers reported in a text
processor when one does the left/right arrowing in a line.


Let me explain myself in some more detail.


Let's open a Word document, and type NVDA.


With the feature from the message subject, and with the left/right
arrowing, it would be possible for one to find out that the letter A is
placed at the forth column.


NVDA may be programmed to pronounce it as:


A: Column 4.


V: Column 2.


D: Column 3.


N: Column 1.


Spaces are not supposed to be eliminated.


It would be also great for those working with written forms.


It is possible for me to handle it in Jarte and Ted Notepad.


After I've written something, and positioned my left and/or right arrows
on a letter and/or a space, I switch NVDA to the screen review mode, hit
the NVDA modifier key, and then arrow down to the very bottom, so that I
can hear the column number spoken. I cannot find it in Word 2007.


That's why I say that the very feature would be great when added to the
Document formatting menu.


Many of us would automatically stop counting and re-counting columns in
lines while arranging our written forms in the best way possible.






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