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After Latest Stable Upgrade: NVDA does not start at system boot

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I updated NVDA to the latest build 2019.2.1 a few days ago.  I noticed when restarting the system, that NVDA would not start. Thinking that it was a glitch---a one time occurrence, I just started it with the hot key.  It happened again and again I used the hotkey to start NVDA.  I then checked the menu/settings/general and indeed found that the check box to start NVDA at start up was unchecked.  I checked it, restarted the system and now everything is fine.

Did anyone else experience this with the latest build 2019.2.1?

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locked music production with NVDA

azeesh rahman <ajrahman1144@...>
 

hi. I am great full for all your previous help regarding my queries. i just wanted to know a softwear which can be used for music production in a simple level. specifically beet making and advanced audio mixing with NVDA accessibility in concern.
for your information:
i am not interested in vying any additional tools or hardwear except my computer as if now.
i want to make music using my own voice and virtual instruments available in the softwear itself. hope iam clear with my concern and awaiting for your valuable responses.

Re: webpage links

 

As an aside, one of the things in the Group Rules, which is really a strong suggestion, not something that can be or is enforced:

"Think very carefully about the title you are going to give any topic you post.  The topic is the first (and, sometimes, only) thing a member sees and that may be how they decide if they’re going to look further.   Generic titles, such as “Help Me!,” are not helpful because they give no idea about what.  Compare that to something like, “NVDA not reading Excel cell contents,” or, “NVDA setting for pronouncing numbers,” where the exact issue where help is needed is front and center.   Even something like, “Need help with the following . . .,” lets the reader know that you are going to present a list of issues."

Generic topics, and this is an example of one of those, make it very difficult for anyone searching the archive to zero in on prior topics.  The fact that the word "flyer" exists in the actual messages does make this one easier to find, though.

Having a truly descriptive topic, where it gives the reader a good idea of the exact nature of the issue, is useful for all involved.  I can't find the previous one, either, but sometimes that's because it  was in the Win10 for Screen Reader User's or JAWS groups.  Over time it does get difficult to remember who said what, and where, as there's significant overlap in the membership in these three groups.
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Re: webpage links

 

Jackie,

          I'm not disagreeing with you in any way.   But I am positive that this issue was just discussed recently, and for store flyers for a store based in Canada, and that the webpage that popped up in that conversation had nothing to do with what's popping up for this one.

          What I remember of what I saw then sounds much more like what Monte actually described, so I'm trying to see if there may be a connection.

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Re: webpage links

Jackie
 

Hey Brian, I really think if he were to select a store/sign in, he'd
find what he expected to find. Could be wrong, been there before, will
be again, my advice might be worth precisely what he paid for it, but
that's what I'm thinking. Their accessibility policy is pretty clear,
w/all sorts of ways to leave feedback if stuff isn't working for
folks. Wish more companies in the US were like that.

On 10/4/19, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Monte,

I seem to recall your having asked about his recently, but I know that the
link you provided the first time, when activated, went to a plain-text-based
page that looks nothing like the Extra Foods/Loblaw's site that the one you
gave this morning does.   There's nothing there that matches your
description.

Since I'm based in the US it also appears that Extra Foods is not accepting
that link as a direct link to the flyer for whatever store happens to be
Store ID 9054.  I am asked, and it sounds like Jackie is being asked, too,
to select my store.

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Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Gene
 

I don't know, but have you looked through whatever menus and dialogs may apply within the Code Factory program or plugin itself?  Are you using the SAPI 5 version or the add-on, I believe Code Factory may make both.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2019 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

I’m using eloquence from coat factory, do you think that makes a difference?



On Oct 3, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

"Output device" is still on the synthesizer dialog - NVDA+control+s - I haven't checked this, but maybe it is greyed out if you only have one sound device?  (I have several options so I can't test that theory out).

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog
but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version
2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.


--Sile

On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hello
>
>
> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the
> name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.
>
>
> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so
> that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.
>
>
> --Sile
>
>
>
>
>





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Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Gene
 

I'm doubtful anyone has just one device.  When only my internal sound card is in use, I still have two choices, such as Microsoft Sound Mapper and also the name of my internal sound card.  I haven't checked in Windows 7 but that's the case in XP.
 
Also, I saw a message yesterday commenting that if you don't select a device for audio, that the internal soundcard will continue to be used by NVDA if you connect another soundcard.  That may be partly true but it isn't what is supposed to happen.  The internal soundcard may continue to be used, but if you exit and restart NVDA, it will play through the external soundcard, which is now the default device.  Also, on my Windows 7 machine, at times, spontaneously, NVDA starts using the external sound card. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2019 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

"Output device" is still on the synthesizer dialog - NVDA+control+s - I haven't checked this, but maybe it is greyed out if you only have one sound device?  (I have several options so I can't test that theory out).

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog
but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version
2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.


--Sile

On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hello
>
>
> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the
> name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.
>
>
> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so
> that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.
>
>
> --Sile
>
>
>
>
>





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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: webpage links

 

Monte,

           I seem to recall your having asked about his recently, but I know that the link you provided the first time, when activated, went to a plain-text-based page that looks nothing like the Extra Foods/Loblaw's site that the one you gave this morning does.   There's nothing there that matches your description.

           Since I'm based in the US it also appears that Extra Foods is not accepting that link as a direct link to the flyer for whatever store happens to be Store ID 9054.  I am asked, and it sounds like Jackie is being asked, too, to select my store.

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Re: webpage links

Jackie
 

Monte, at the very bottom of the page, there is a dialogue where you
need to press the space bar & go to your store. This is just a flyer.
Conversely, there is a link you can use to sign in toward the top of
the page if you have an account.

Canada has definitively put the fear of the deity into these folks for
a fact lol. I think you'll find it's quite accessible once you sign in
& actually go to the store where you wish to shop.

On 10/4/19, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
I am using current versions of nvda and chrome in win 7.

When I go to the web link below; I cannot activate many of the links on
the
page.

When I press l a few time I land on a list which says 14 items.

I can arrow up and down through the list, but I cannot hear the price of
the
item nor does anything happen when I press enter on any of the 14 links.

Suggestions?

Monte





https://www.extrafoods.ca/print-flyer?storeId=9054




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webpage links

Monte Single
 

I am using current versions of nvda and chrome in win 7.

When I go to the web link below;  I cannot activate many of the links on the page.

When I press l a few time I land on a list which says 14 items.

I can arrow up and down through the list, but I cannot hear the price of the item nor does anything happen when I press enter on any of the 14 links.

Suggestions?

Monte

 

 

https://www.extrafoods.ca/print-flyer?storeId=9054

Crash in Outlook 365

Daniel Gartmann
 

Hi,

When e.g. composing a reply in Outlook 365, I often can't Tab or Shift+Tab into the body of the message that I am typing.

For me, this is quite serious, since when this happens, I cannot continue typing my e-mail and have to switch to another screen reader to get the job done.

Until I find the time to create an issue on GitHub, I take the liberty to post a segment from the log file and hope this makes sense. I would appreciate any further comments or questions if the issue needs further investigation:

Logfile snipit after crash when tabbing in and out of the message body of a message which is a reply.

INFO - core.main (13:19:59.085):
NVDA initialized
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:20:05.789):
Loading config: C:\Users\Daniel Gartmann\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\Dansk.ini
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:20:06.783):
Loaded synthDriver vocalizer
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (13:26:32.663):
error executing script: <bound method Dynamic_OutlookUIAWordDocumentWordDocumentEditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIAWindowNVDAObject.script_tab of <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_OutlookUIAWordDocumentWordDocumentEditableTextWithoutAutoSelectDetectionUIAWindowNVDAObject object at 0x051E10D0>> with gesture u'skift+tab'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyo", line 192, in executeScript
File "NVDAObjects\window\winword.pyo", line 1371, in script_tab
File "documentBase.pyo", line 24, in makeTextInfo
File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 286, in __init__
NotImplementedError: UIAutomationTextRangeArray is empty


Best regards

Daniel

locked Re: creating internet shortcuts with firefox

Sile
 

Hello, I think it’s the same as with chrome. You have to find an empty spot on your desktop, which you can do using the external numeric keypad, select the link in Firefox, and then right click the desktop to make a shortcut.

When you select the shortcut option, there are a number of fields that you can tab through. One of them will ask you for the half, and that’s where you put the link. Then the next box asks you to name the shortcut.



On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:47 AM, azeesh rahman <ajrahman1144@...> wrote:

hi. can anyone help me with creating an internet shortcut on my desktop with Firefox using nvda.

Re: 2019.2.1 - the treeview reading problem in eclipse persists

Antony Stone
 

If there is some feature which you would like to be implemented because it is
important for people in their jobs, it might be worth asking employers to
sponsor the development effort needed to work on it.

Regards,


Antony.

On Friday 04 October 2019 at 12:13:03, Alexandre Alves Toco wrote:

It is very frustrating to see the time going and this problem is not being
addressed. I imagine that nvaccess has it’s criterias to priorize fixes
and improovements. But, since eclipse is a work and programing learning
tool, I think it should be priorized because it is important to the blind
comunity to empower it self. I don`t know if it is an windows`s issue. But
narrator and jaws read the treeviews correctly...
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2019.2.1 - the treeview reading problem in eclipse persists

Alexandre Alves Toco
 

 

It is very frustrating to see the time going and this problem is not being addressed.

I imagine that nvaccess has it’s criterias to priorize fixes and improovements.

But, since eclipse is a work and programing learning tool, I think it should be priorized because it is important to the blind comunity to empower it self.

I don`t know if it is an windows`s issue. But narrator and jaws read the treeviews correctly...

 

 

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locked Re: creating internet shortcuts with firefox

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

  1. Open the page you wish to make a shortcut to.
  2. 2. Press control+l to open the address bar.
  3.   Copy the address to your clipboard
  4.   Go to your desktop and right click (numpad *)
  5.   Press w for new
  6.   Arrow down to shortcut and enter
  7.   Paste the URL on your clipboard and tab to next and enter
  8.   Give the shortcut a name and enter.

 

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From: azeesh rahman
Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 3:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] creating internet shortcuts with firefox #addonrelease #addonrelease #addonrelesae

 

hi. can anyone help me with creating an internet shortcut on my desktop with Firefox using nvda.

 

locked creating internet shortcuts with firefox

azeesh rahman <ajrahman1144@...>
 

hi. can anyone help me with creating an internet shortcut on my desktop with Firefox using nvda.

Re: Formatting on a Braille Display

Vincent Le Goff
 

Major +318 for what you've just said.  I would welcome Braille accessibility to get more priority in NVDA in general, grateful for what I have, but speech just gets the best of things, first and often solely.  And some of us (I for one) don't use anything but Braille (not a matter of choice).  To answer the specific question, if configured well, the BrailleExtender addon can display dot-78 on bold or italic or even spelling errors (something I particularly appreciate), but it can't blink.  So I usually set it to represent only one format, multiple formats would be confusing, though I suggested blinking (and different blinking speeds to indicate different formats, as some have provided).  I agree that, in the end, using the "official Braille representation" for bold, italic and so on is interesting. Trouble is: it's Braille table dependent and not always accurate. sNot all Braille table offer such a syntax.  As far as I know, NVDA is still not able to send formatting info to Liblouis for them to be displayed in whatever braille table is being used. Perhaps, one day, hopefully!


Cheers,


Vincent

On 10/4/2019 2:02 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
I’d much rather have the actual braille symbols for italics, bold, and such used, instead of a generic highlighting effect. After all, formatting logic is in a braille code for a reason, and I would hope that screen readers would take advantage of Liblouis’ ability to show such formatting.

On Oct 3, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

You are raising a very important question. I would greatly welcome seeing such characteristics displayed in Braille, which are commonly used in scientific writings for, e.g., book titles that get italicized. The screen readers I have been using to this day use dots 7, 8, or 7+8 or can be made to "blink". I realize that NVDA's original purpose was to make text audible; yet it would be a plus to have such elements also available as a second option--especially for those of us who primarily depend on a Braille display.

Best wishes,
Cordelia



Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Thank you, Quentin, for these tips. I shall look into them as well. I was not thinking about different text-editing programs but MS Word only to be paired with either English (UEB) or German (Grade II) for reading purposes. Inputting I would rather keep at Grade I level, for I am most efficient at typing on a QWERTY keyboard. All suggestions are welcome, and I shall see what I can accomplish at my end.

 

Cordelia

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 1:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

 

And to complete my own thought there - you can create profiles which are "manually activated" and not linked to a program.  You can then use NVDA's Input Gestures dialog to set keystrokes for each, so then you could create a profile for each Braille table and use keystrokes to switch between them.

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:16 AM Quentin Christensen via Groups.Io <quentin=nvaccess.org@groups.io> wrote:

If you want to use the different tables in different programs, you can setup configuration profiles for each program and specify the Braille table to use in each program.  Open a program you want to create a profile for, press NVDA+control+p to open the configuration profiles dialog, press ALT+N for new, tab to "Use this profile for" and then right arrow to "Current program" and press ENTER. Now anything you change in NVDA's settings (except the general settings which apply across the board) are saved in that profile.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:42 AM Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Please bear with me for asking a somewhat technical question, which might need to be addressed off-list.

 

I am working with English and German texts and would like to switch reading them in UEB and German grade II on my Braille display. Is there a toggle that lets me control both languages/tables of contractions? Or do I need to generate and save “profiles” and call them up as needed?

 

Can such profiles be run side-by-side in two separate windows  on one PC? In my past experience, such a plan did not seem feasible unless I ran two separate MS Word programs installed on different partitions or different PCs.

 

Best,

Cordelia


 

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Re: Firefox options

Arlene
 

Oh, I have win ten but did not install firefox.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: October 3, 2019 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox options

 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, Arlene wrote:

 

> Luke, Is this with windows ten?

 

Win 10, 1903.

 

 

 

 

Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sile
 


Sile


On Oct 3, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain@...> wrote:

I’m using eloquence from coat factory, do you think that makes a difference?



On Oct 3, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

"Output device" is still on the synthesizer dialog - NVDA+control+s - I haven't checked this, but maybe it is greyed out if you only have one sound device?  (I have several options so I can't test that theory out).

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog
but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version
2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.


--Sile

On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hello
>
>
> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the
> name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.
>
>
> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so
> that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.
>
>
> --Sile
>
>
>
>
>





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