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Re: nvda and IE

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Yes seen that been there. I think its got something to do with the initialisation being s l o w
Maybe its missing the cue to see its got a buffer.
Brian

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From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and IE


Just on the first one


On 8/2/2017 3:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Is this on every page or just the first one?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda and IE


Running the latest version of NVDA on a Win 10 creator edition.

When I start IE I have NVDA voicing a long line of verbage that seems to be describing the page in computer code form. Sighted help says there is nothing on the screen that resembles what is being spoken. Is there a way to stop this info from being spoken?

Thanks










Re: Firefox and RSS

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What is wrong with IE11?
Curious.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 3:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox and RSS


Hi,
I have given up on using IE11 where I had all my RSS set up as the browser is basically unusable with NVDA. I opened IE11 this morning to add a company to my RSS feed, and it stuttered and went silent. I had to restart my computer. Please any help on setting up RSS feed with Firefox or Edge for that matter is greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Blessings
Pascal

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Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 5:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Thunderbird Add On To Allow First Letter Navigation For Folders

Pity they don't do one that changes the key allocations to be more like outlook express or one that adds identities so one can keep folder trees from getting to look like spaghetti!
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:29 AM
Subject: [nvda] Thunderbird Add On To Allow First Letter Navigation For Folders


Hi Group,


I got this referenced from another list.

There is an add on that allows folder navigation by typing the first
letter and it is called 'quick key folder navigation.' The
description says you have to type the first 3 letters, but if you only
have one folder that begins with the letter key you press, then you
will move right to the folder with just the first key press. I have
installed this and it works great. This restores one of the favorite
features for screen reader users that existed in the venerable and now largely defunct Outlook Express.


Using Thunderbird, it is easy to install this add on. Just click
tools/add on manager/search for add on. Type in quick folder key
navigation, press enter, then tab to the list of results, highlight
the add on, right click and choose install. Then follow the prompts.
There is no need to browse the Mozilla website for the add on.


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Re: NVDA In-Process

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New Icon?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 11:15 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA In-Process


Hi everyone,

A new edition of NVDA's In-Process is up. It features info on our new NVDA
icon, no new sounds and inbuilt OCR for Windows 10.

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-2nd-august-2017/

Regards

Quentin.
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Re: about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

Quentin Christensen
 

You could get NVDA to read numbers how you want using a dictionary rule which uses regex.  I think someone did it on this list previously.  You would need to do it for each type of number, eg one digit followed by a full stop, followed by two digits, a full stop then more digits etc.



On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I don't know what NVDA does with different numeric reading settings.  I just tried having it read a number with a decimal point with punctuation off using a version of NVDA that doesn't have the read number as digits feature.  In other words it reads numbers the way NVDA always has.  It reads numbers as thousand, hundred, etc.  It says the word point where the decimal is and reads the number as a number before the decimal point and digits after the decimal point.  For example, it would say 4 hundred forty three point 236.  I'm not sure just what you want to hear. 
 
As I recall what I saw on the list early in the discussion, the option to read numbers as digits is in a snapshot version.  If it is in a snapshot branch where the program is expected to be stable, you might want to experiment.  In the branch where the code is expected to be stable, snapshots usually work well.  There may be a bug here and there but many people use snap shots from stable branches because they want newer features and stable operation.  I've used a few snapshots from a stable branch and I've had no or almost no unexpected behavior.  People who don't want to wait for production releases but who want a feature would do well to try a snapshot from a stable branch with the feature.  There are three branches of snapshots.  One or two or them is expected to have stable or quite stable code.  I'll let those who follow snapshots and branches discuss the question further.
 
Gene,
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

thanks gene.
i wish that dont hear punctuation and only hear full number after dot
like versions of programs and number digit in phone numbers.
i set punctuation to none for not hearing any of punctuations when
reading documents!
about version numbers which have dot, i tested with all kind of
reporting punctuation (non, some, most and all and none of them worked
for me.

On 8/3/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I'm not sure if there is a practical solution.  One thing you might do is to
> set punctuation to most so that periods will be spoken and set numbers to be
> read as digits. I'm not sure if that's quite what you want but it might be
> reasonably close.  I don't know if NVDA could be programmed to recognize
> context and read in this way automatically.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 12:34 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda
> developers and experts please help me.
>
>
> hello.
> thanks so much for your reply.
> i understand that its not easy for software to read numbers in the way
> that i wish.
> but my problem is only with numbers which have dot and seperating from
> each other with dot.
> like the version of espeak which i told i wish that hear for example:
> 1. 49 not 1. 4 9!
> what should i do to nvda says 49 instead of 4 9 in such cases?
> also about phone numbers and sales number i completely agree.
> phone number also i accept both digit and pare number and cant
> memorize the hole number in that case!
>
> On 8/3/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> I meant to cover this in my last message. the reason NVDA doesn't try to
>> do
>> too much number processing like that, is there are so many different ways
>> of writing numbers and people would like different numbers read
>> differently.
>>
>> For instance, phone numbers are often easier to take in as individual
>> digits (5 5 5 6 7 8 9 0), but the number of sales made last month makes
>> more sense read as a whole number: 55567890.
>>
>> As a human, reading text, it is easy to tell which type a number is and
>> how
>> you would prefer it read, but without a lot of computing power, it's not
>> so
>> easy for NVDA.
>>
>> This is the same reasoning why words such as "live", "read", "wind" and
>> "lead" are always pronounced the same, even though each has two meanings,
>> each pronounced differently. For the logophiles in the audience, these
>> are
>> called heteronyms or heterophones.
>>
>> Now I've exhausted my dictionary, I'll leave it there (and I never even
>> got
>> to non-English languages or other cultural ways of writing numbers).
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, nasrin khaksar
>> <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hello every one.
>>> i wish that hear number full number in all cases.
>>> but i cant in some cases.
>>> for example: in some numbers which have dot, nvda reads the numbers
>>> digit instead of full!
>>>
>>> what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
>>> for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
>>> i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
>>> i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete
>>> numbers!
>>> 1. 6 3 8 9 1
>>> instead of 1. 63891
>>> God bless you all and i pray for you sincerely every day.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>> in the very authentic narration is:
>>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>> al-islam.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
>> www.nvaccess.org
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org





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Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
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Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I am going to leave a zipped version of the site in drop box just in case I loose the site for any reason. I do have back ups on external drives as long as nothing happens to them either.


Gene nz



On 8/3/2017 4:18 PM, The Wolf wrote:

please let me know when it is released I would like to try it out.



On 8/2/2017 8:33 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


The website came back up last thursday morning i think it was. I just hope it does not happen again.


there is a tutorial i have written up but not posted on putting it onto a usb stick and when you click on the start.bat file either the older wway or newer way if setup correctly it will also start a copy of the website along with NVDA. it is just a matter of using the alt and tab key to bring it into focus. More for if there is no internet connection most of the stuff is written except for external links like audio files, add ons etc. But they can easily be put onto a usb stick in a folder.


It has not been put onto a page yet.


Gene nz



On 8/2/2017 8:04 PM, Peter Chin wrote:
Hello Gene N.Z.,
 
I have also downloaded your zip file and would like to thank you very much for making it available.
 
Wishing you all the best, especially with your efforts to straighten out your web page.
 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.
 

Hi Gene NZ!

I downloaded the Drop Box Zip  file. And I have 57 HTML files, that all open great!

I was able to get to all of the tutorials and all other information. Thanks a lot, Gene NZ! I am so happy that I have all of these tutorials right on my computer now in HTML form. Thank you so much for giving us that zip file to download.

Have a great one, and I hope your site gets straightened out soon.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

I see that the file is only 1.1mb, which is much smaller than I anticipated.  But it still might be worth considering data restrictions unless you are using the paid account in which case, I suspect they won't matter.  But I'm not sure.

 

At any rate, you may have already thought about these things and you may have determined that there is no cause for concern.  I'll be looking forward to your reply.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 10:50 PM

Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

Hi guys

 

it is gene from New Zealand who has the Accessibility Central.net website that is been diverted at the moment. it is not my website so please do not go to it just in case.

 

until it is sorted out or hosted elsewhere i have zipped the website up in a program called 7 zip file manager which was used to do it.

 

you might need a program like that to access the contents of it.

you might have to make a folder first then put all the files into it.

then it is a matter of going to the index file and pressing the enter key on it. to get to the information.


the zip file has been scanned with anti virus and malware programs and it says it is clean.

If you want to download the zip file it is going to be put into a drop box account which i will share on this list if you want it until this is sorted out.

the drop box link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujcz7ui1i7qxp58/Accessibility%20Central%20Website.zip?dl=0
the copy or back up is from the 19 th of July if it is all there and it looks like it.
not the thing i would usually do but just in case the info is lost for any reason i would hate it not been shared as it was doing for the community.

Gene nz

On 7/23/2017 1:54 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,
 
Could someone please post how to remove a bookmark in firefox?
I want to remove my bookmark for now to avoid clicking on the tutorial page until it is safe again.
Thanks.
 
It is totally rotten that anyone would hijack such a thoughtfully arranged resource for us.
 
Gene, I'm sorry that this has happened.
-Laurie
 
 
 

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

Gene
 

I don't know what NVDA does with different numeric reading settings.  I just tried having it read a number with a decimal point with punctuation off using a version of NVDA that doesn't have the read number as digits feature.  In other words it reads numbers the way NVDA always has.  It reads numbers as thousand, hundred, etc.  It says the word point where the decimal is and reads the number as a number before the decimal point and digits after the decimal point.  For example, it would say 4 hundred forty three point 236.  I'm not sure just what you want to hear. 
 
As I recall what I saw on the list early in the discussion, the option to read numbers as digits is in a snapshot version.  If it is in a snapshot branch where the program is expected to be stable, you might want to experiment.  In the branch where the code is expected to be stable, snapshots usually work well.  There may be a bug here and there but many people use snap shots from stable branches because they want newer features and stable operation.  I've used a few snapshots from a stable branch and I've had no or almost no unexpected behavior.  People who don't want to wait for production releases but who want a feature would do well to try a snapshot from a stable branch with the feature.  There are three branches of snapshots.  One or two or them is expected to have stable or quite stable code.  I'll let those who follow snapshots and branches discuss the question further.
 
Gene,

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

thanks gene.
i wish that dont hear punctuation and only hear full number after dot
like versions of programs and number digit in phone numbers.
i set punctuation to none for not hearing any of punctuations when
reading documents!
about version numbers which have dot, i tested with all kind of
reporting punctuation (non, some, most and all and none of them worked
for me.

On 8/3/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I'm not sure if there is a practical solution.  One thing you might do is to
> set punctuation to most so that periods will be spoken and set numbers to be
> read as digits. I'm not sure if that's quite what you want but it might be
> reasonably close.  I don't know if NVDA could be programmed to recognize
> context and read in this way automatically.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 12:34 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda
> developers and experts please help me.
>
>
> hello.
> thanks so much for your reply.
> i understand that its not easy for software to read numbers in the way
> that i wish.
> but my problem is only with numbers which have dot and seperating from
> each other with dot.
> like the version of espeak which i told i wish that hear for example:
> 1. 49 not 1. 4 9!
> what should i do to nvda says 49 instead of 4 9 in such cases?
> also about phone numbers and sales number i completely agree.
> phone number also i accept both digit and pare number and cant
> memorize the hole number in that case!
>
> On 8/3/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
>> I meant to cover this in my last message. the reason NVDA doesn't try to
>> do
>> too much number processing like that, is there are so many different ways
>> of writing numbers and people would like different numbers read
>> differently.
>>
>> For instance, phone numbers are often easier to take in as individual
>> digits (5 5 5 6 7 8 9 0), but the number of sales made last month makes
>> more sense read as a whole number: 55567890.
>>
>> As a human, reading text, it is easy to tell which type a number is and
>> how
>> you would prefer it read, but without a lot of computing power, it's not
>> so
>> easy for NVDA.
>>
>> This is the same reasoning why words such as "live", "read", "wind" and
>> "lead" are always pronounced the same, even though each has two meanings,
>> each pronounced differently. For the logophiles in the audience, these
>> are
>> called heteronyms or heterophones.
>>
>> Now I've exhausted my dictionary, I'll leave it there (and I never even
>> got
>> to non-English languages or other cultural ways of writing numbers).
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, nasrin khaksar
>> <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hello every one.
>>> i wish that hear number full number in all cases.
>>> but i cant in some cases.
>>> for example: in some numbers which have dot, nvda reads the numbers
>>> digit instead of full!
>>>
>>> what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
>>> for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
>>> i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
>>> i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete
>>> numbers!
>>> 1. 6 3 8 9 1
>>> instead of 1. 63891
>>> God bless you all and i pray for you sincerely every day.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>>> in the very authentic narration is:
>>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>>> al-islam.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>>
>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
>> www.nvaccess.org
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


If you do not mind a draft it is not tidied up yet but has directions on what to do both the old way and new way.


the directions have to be done exactly the same. You will need to make a start.bat file and figure wheather you want to do it the newer way or the older way when nvda starts.any how the directions are in the email.


There is no link to where it is yet but if needed can add in the drop box link for it in this email. I am guessing some already have it.


Taking Accessibility Central with you on a USB stick

 

Do you go some places where there is no internet access? Or it is patchy.

 

Do you want to go portable with NVDA and also take the website with you? If so read below.

 

Please note

 

Any external links from the web site will not work this also includes links to the audio tutorials. There is no reason why you could not put the audio tutorials into a folder called nvda audio tutorials for listening to off line or been moved to a portable device or you could simply just put it into a folder to browse later on. You will need to press enter on the index file with in that folder.

 

 

Starting NVDA with the website the newer way

 

 

To take NVDA and the website portable you will need to do the following steps. Locate a USB stick with nothing on it.

 

You will need to download a copy of NVDA from the following website at http://www.nvaccess.org and put it onto your USB stick. Make sure the message does not appear when you press enter on it. It is a security message that shows you every time you click on it. You want NVDA to start automatically when the file is clicked or pressed enter on. Move it to the USB stick.

Next down load the Accessibility Central website from       and once downloaded you will need to unzip the file or copy its contents into a folder on the USB stick. The folder name has to be exact so when the start.bat file is used it will point to this folder. Call the folder accessibility_central and put the contents of the zip file into this folder.

 

The next step is to make a start.bat file which will point to NVDA and the index file in the accessibility_central folder.

You will neeed to do this in note pad. Make sure it is exact.

 

start nvda_2017.2.exe

start accessibility_central\index.html

 

Now save this as a start.bat file then move it onto the USB stick.

 

So when you look at the contents of your USB stick you will see the following. There will be a start.bat file, a folder called accessibility_central with files in it and the nvda_2017.2.exe file in it.

 

So now when you click or press enter on the start.bat file if done correctly it should start your copy of NVDA the newer way where it gives you three options. This will be to install NVDA to your computer, two to make a portable copy or three to run as a tempory copy. With a quick use of the alt/tab key after NVDA has loaded the website will come up in the browser. You can still jump down by headings etc.

 

 

 

 

To update your start.bat file at a later date you can edit it in note pad or a program that lets you. You will just need to make the following changes to the text.

 

You will need to change the version number of NVDA then save the file. It should still save as a start.bat file.

 

 

start nvda_2017.3.exe

start accessibility_central\index.html

 

 

Starting NVDA with the web site the older way

 

 

If you would like to start NVDA with the web site the older way you will need to do the following. Locate a empty USB stick and download the website from the following link     You will need to unzip the file and put the contents into a folder called accessibility_central on your USB stick. Make sure the folder name is exact and put the contents of the files into that folder.

Next you will need to make a folder called NVDA and have all of its contents put into that folder. This can be done while NVDA is running through the tools/ create portable version menu. Make sure you point it towards your USB stick first and make sure you make the folder calld nvda for the files to go into it.

 

The next step is to create a start.bat file this will need to be done in note pad and put in the following llines.

 

start nvda\nvda.exe

start accessibility_central\index.html

 

 

 

you will then need to save the file as a start.bat file then move it onto your USB stick as well. So now when you look at the USB stick it will have the following. A start.bat file, a folder called accessibility_central with the website files in it and also a folder called nvda with all of the files in it.

 

To start up both the copy of NVDA and the website you will need to click or press enter on the start.bat file. NVDA will start up, then it is a matter of using the alt/tab key to bring up the website.

 

Another alternative you could do

 

 

You could download the accessibility central website to your computer and put the files into a folder on your computer.

 

I might even just zip the start.bat files? but they they are easy enough to make following the directions given.

 

gene nz

 




On 8/3/2017 4:18 PM, The Wolf wrote:

please let me know when it is released I would like to try it out.



On 8/2/2017 8:33 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


The website came back up last thursday morning i think it was. I just hope it does not happen again.


there is a tutorial i have written up but not posted on putting it onto a usb stick and when you click on the start.bat file either the older wway or newer way if setup correctly it will also start a copy of the website along with NVDA. it is just a matter of using the alt and tab key to bring it into focus. More for if there is no internet connection most of the stuff is written except for external links like audio files, add ons etc. But they can easily be put onto a usb stick in a folder.


It has not been put onto a page yet.


Gene nz



On 8/2/2017 8:04 PM, Peter Chin wrote:
Hello Gene N.Z.,
 
I have also downloaded your zip file and would like to thank you very much for making it available.
 
Wishing you all the best, especially with your efforts to straighten out your web page.
 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.
 

Hi Gene NZ!

I downloaded the Drop Box Zip  file. And I have 57 HTML files, that all open great!

I was able to get to all of the tutorials and all other information. Thanks a lot, Gene NZ! I am so happy that I have all of these tutorials right on my computer now in HTML form. Thank you so much for giving us that zip file to download.

Have a great one, and I hope your site gets straightened out soon.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

I see that the file is only 1.1mb, which is much smaller than I anticipated.  But it still might be worth considering data restrictions unless you are using the paid account in which case, I suspect they won't matter.  But I'm not sure.

 

At any rate, you may have already thought about these things and you may have determined that there is no cause for concern.  I'll be looking forward to your reply.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 10:50 PM

Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

Hi guys

 

it is gene from New Zealand who has the Accessibility Central.net website that is been diverted at the moment. it is not my website so please do not go to it just in case.

 

until it is sorted out or hosted elsewhere i have zipped the website up in a program called 7 zip file manager which was used to do it.

 

you might need a program like that to access the contents of it.

you might have to make a folder first then put all the files into it.

then it is a matter of going to the index file and pressing the enter key on it. to get to the information.


the zip file has been scanned with anti virus and malware programs and it says it is clean.

If you want to download the zip file it is going to be put into a drop box account which i will share on this list if you want it until this is sorted out.

the drop box link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujcz7ui1i7qxp58/Accessibility%20Central%20Website.zip?dl=0
the copy or back up is from the 19 th of July if it is all there and it looks like it.
not the thing i would usually do but just in case the info is lost for any reason i would hate it not been shared as it was doing for the community.

Gene nz

On 7/23/2017 1:54 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,
 
Could someone please post how to remove a bookmark in firefox?
I want to remove my bookmark for now to avoid clicking on the tutorial page until it is safe again.
Thanks.
 
It is totally rotten that anyone would hijack such a thoughtfully arranged resource for us.
 
Gene, I'm sorry that this has happened.
-Laurie
 
 
 

 

--
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                        expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

 

thanks gene.
i wish that dont hear punctuation and only hear full number after dot
like versions of programs and number digit in phone numbers.
i set punctuation to none for not hearing any of punctuations when
reading documents!
about version numbers which have dot, i tested with all kind of
reporting punctuation (non, some, most and all and none of them worked
for me.

On 8/3/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I'm not sure if there is a practical solution. One thing you might do is to
set punctuation to most so that periods will be spoken and set numbers to be
read as digits. I'm not sure if that's quite what you want but it might be
reasonably close. I don't know if NVDA could be programmed to recognize
context and read in this way automatically.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 12:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda
developers and experts please help me.


hello.
thanks so much for your reply.
i understand that its not easy for software to read numbers in the way
that i wish.
but my problem is only with numbers which have dot and seperating from
each other with dot.
like the version of espeak which i told i wish that hear for example:
1. 49 not 1. 4 9!
what should i do to nvda says 49 instead of 4 9 in such cases?
also about phone numbers and sales number i completely agree.
phone number also i accept both digit and pare number and cant
memorize the hole number in that case!

On 8/3/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
I meant to cover this in my last message. the reason NVDA doesn't try to
do
too much number processing like that, is there are so many different ways
of writing numbers and people would like different numbers read
differently.

For instance, phone numbers are often easier to take in as individual
digits (5 5 5 6 7 8 9 0), but the number of sales made last month makes
more sense read as a whole number: 55567890.

As a human, reading text, it is easy to tell which type a number is and
how
you would prefer it read, but without a lot of computing power, it's not
so
easy for NVDA.

This is the same reasoning why words such as "live", "read", "wind" and
"lead" are always pronounced the same, even though each has two meanings,
each pronounced differently. For the logophiles in the audience, these
are
called heteronyms or heterophones.

Now I've exhausted my dictionary, I'll leave it there (and I never even
got
to non-English languages or other cultural ways of writing numbers).

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, nasrin khaksar
<nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
wrote:

hello every one.
i wish that hear number full number in all cases.
but i cant in some cases.
for example: in some numbers which have dot, nvda reads the numbers
digit instead of full!

what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete
numbers!
1. 6 3 8 9 1
instead of 1. 63891
God bless you all and i pray for you sincerely every day.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

Gene
 

I'm not sure if there is a practical solution.  One thing you might do is to set punctuation to most so that periods will be spoken and set numbers to be read as digits. I'm not sure if that's quite what you want but it might be reasonably close.  I don't know if NVDA could be programmed to recognize context and read in this way automatically.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

hello.
thanks so much for your reply.
i understand that its not easy for software to read numbers in the way
that i wish.
but my problem is only with numbers which have dot and seperating from
each other with dot.
like the version of espeak which i told i wish that hear for example:
1. 49 not 1. 4 9!
what should i do to nvda says 49 instead of 4 9 in such cases?
also about phone numbers and sales number i completely agree.
phone number also i accept both digit and pare number and cant
memorize the hole number in that case!

On 8/3/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> I meant to cover this in my last message. the reason NVDA doesn't try to do
> too much number processing like that, is there are so many different ways
> of writing numbers and people would like different numbers read
> differently.
>
> For instance, phone numbers are often easier to take in as individual
> digits (5 5 5 6 7 8 9 0), but the number of sales made last month makes
> more sense read as a whole number: 55567890.
>
> As a human, reading text, it is easy to tell which type a number is and how
> you would prefer it read, but without a lot of computing power, it's not so
> easy for NVDA.
>
> This is the same reasoning why words such as "live", "read", "wind" and
> "lead" are always pronounced the same, even though each has two meanings,
> each pronounced differently. For the logophiles in the audience, these are
> called heteronyms or heterophones.
>
> Now I've exhausted my dictionary, I'll leave it there (and I never even got
> to non-English languages or other cultural ways of writing numbers).
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
> wrote:
>
>> hello every one.
>> i wish that hear number full number in all cases.
>> but i cant in some cases.
>> for example: in some numbers which have dot, nvda reads the numbers
>> digit instead of full!
>>
>> what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
>> for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
>> i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
>> i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete
>> numbers!
>> 1. 6 3 8 9 1
>> instead of 1. 63891
>> God bless you all and i pray for you sincerely every day.
>>
>>
>> --
>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>> in the very authentic narration is:
>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org



Re: about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

 

hello.
thanks so much for your reply.
i understand that its not easy for software to read numbers in the way
that i wish.
but my problem is only with numbers which have dot and seperating from
each other with dot.
like the version of espeak which i told i wish that hear for example:
1. 49 not 1. 4 9!
what should i do to nvda says 49 instead of 4 9 in such cases?
also about phone numbers and sales number i completely agree.
phone number also i accept both digit and pare number and cant
memorize the hole number in that case!

On 8/3/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
I meant to cover this in my last message. the reason NVDA doesn't try to do
too much number processing like that, is there are so many different ways
of writing numbers and people would like different numbers read
differently.

For instance, phone numbers are often easier to take in as individual
digits (5 5 5 6 7 8 9 0), but the number of sales made last month makes
more sense read as a whole number: 55567890.

As a human, reading text, it is easy to tell which type a number is and how
you would prefer it read, but without a lot of computing power, it's not so
easy for NVDA.

This is the same reasoning why words such as "live", "read", "wind" and
"lead" are always pronounced the same, even though each has two meanings,
each pronounced differently. For the logophiles in the audience, these are
called heteronyms or heterophones.

Now I've exhausted my dictionary, I'll leave it there (and I never even got
to non-English languages or other cultural ways of writing numbers).

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
wrote:

hello every one.
i wish that hear number full number in all cases.
but i cant in some cases.
for example: in some numbers which have dot, nvda reads the numbers
digit instead of full!

what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete
numbers!
1. 6 3 8 9 1
instead of 1. 63891
God bless you all and i pray for you sincerely every day.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

Quentin Christensen
 

I meant to cover this in my last message. the reason NVDA doesn't try to do too much number processing like that, is there are so many different ways of writing numbers and people would like different numbers read differently.

For instance, phone numbers are often easier to take in as individual digits (5 5 5 6 7 8 9 0), but the number of sales made last month makes more sense read as a whole number: 55567890.

As a human, reading text, it is easy to tell which type a number is and how you would prefer it read, but without a lot of computing power, it's not so easy for NVDA.

This is the same reasoning why words such as "live", "read", "wind" and "lead" are always pronounced the same, even though each has two meanings, each pronounced differently. For the logophiles in the audience, these are called heteronyms or heterophones.

Now I've exhausted my dictionary, I'll leave it there (and I never even got to non-English languages or other cultural ways of writing numbers).

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:57 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hello every one.
i wish that hear number full number in all cases.
but i cant in some cases.
for example: in some numbers which have dot, nvda reads the numbers
digit instead of full!

what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete numbers!
1. 6 3 8 9 1
instead of 1. 63891
God bless you all and i pray for you sincerely every day.


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: About number processing feature

Quentin Christensen
 

There are a number of options for speaking numbers in the Next build (in the voice settings dialog).  Speaking numbers in double digits or triple digits are there although not the <  5 digits / > 5 digits option suggested here.

There was a reason that feature hadn't progressed to Master (and so, unfortunately, won't be in 2017.3), though off the top of my head, I can't recall what it was.

It wasn't available in earlier stable releases of NVDA though it might have been in earlier next builds, I can't recall when it was added.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 12:54 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hello.
what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete numbers!
1. 6 3 8 9 1
instead of 1. 63891


On 8/2/17, Tejas Bendre <bendre.tejas6@...> wrote:
> Hello friends,
> I want to say something to nvda developers. I try latest
> snapshot of nvda. there is one new feature call number processing.
> but I want to say something about that when I set number processing on
> digit mode
> that time we get digit more like
> 1 call one
> 12 call one two
> 123 call one two three
> 1234 call one two three fore
> 12345 call one two three four five
> and so on
> where 5 and above digit come that time number process should work by digit
> or other tipe.
> but before 5 digit digit announce like this
> 1 call one
> 12 call twelve
> 123 call one hunred and twenty three
> 1234 call twelve  thirty four or one thoujen thirty four
> and one more thing when I set number processing in digit mode
> so that time come any where
> e speek TTS speak time in digit mode only.
> but I want time should be tell this way
> for example current time is 12:34 so time should tell
> twelve  thirty four
> or
> twelve  colen  thirty four
> but time saying like this
> one two colon three fore.
> so Can anybody nvda  developer change this?
> please!
> Because this is very important for every user.
> please forgive me for my English.
> thanks
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Thunderbird Add On To Allow First Letter Navigation For Folders

Michel Such
 

Hi,


Another interesting addon is Select Inbox.

This one sets focus on the first unread message when you open Thunderbird.

In its options, you can decide if you want to open on the first unread, simply the first message etc.


Michel SUCH

michel.such@free.fr
Skype : michel.such
Twitter : @SuchMichel

Le 03/08/2017 à 02:48, Ron Canazzi a écrit :
Hi Don,


I have looked for some others that would be specifically for Thunderbird. I have used the Thunderbird add on manager to do so and I haven't found any that seem to do much to enhance screen reader usage.


I am wondering if anyone knows if there is any way to get Thunderbird to group messages by conversation as other mail programs such as Outlook Express and Windows Mail did in the past. By this I mean that Thunderbird does not group all messages with the same subject line and the reply (re:) prefix in the subject line into one group. For some reason, this type of feature is lacking. I almost never get all 20 or more messages in a conversation thread grouped properly in Thunderbird. I usually get 6 or 7 in one group, 3 or 4 in another group and the rest in still another group.


I wonder if anyone else has noticed this and found a solution--be it add on or otherwise.



On 8/2/2017 5:37 PM, Don H wrote:
OK this add on has some potential. Are there any other Thunderbird add on's that anyone suggests that would be good for us screen reader users.





Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

please let me know when it is released I would like to try it out.



On 8/2/2017 8:33 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi


The website came back up last thursday morning i think it was. I just hope it does not happen again.


there is a tutorial i have written up but not posted on putting it onto a usb stick and when you click on the start.bat file either the older wway or newer way if setup correctly it will also start a copy of the website along with NVDA. it is just a matter of using the alt and tab key to bring it into focus. More for if there is no internet connection most of the stuff is written except for external links like audio files, add ons etc. But they can easily be put onto a usb stick in a folder.


It has not been put onto a page yet.


Gene nz



On 8/2/2017 8:04 PM, Peter Chin wrote:
Hello Gene N.Z.,
 
I have also downloaded your zip file and would like to thank you very much for making it available.
 
Wishing you all the best, especially with your efforts to straighten out your web page.
 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.
 

Hi Gene NZ!

I downloaded the Drop Box Zip  file. And I have 57 HTML files, that all open great!

I was able to get to all of the tutorials and all other information. Thanks a lot, Gene NZ! I am so happy that I have all of these tutorials right on my computer now in HTML form. Thank you so much for giving us that zip file to download.

Have a great one, and I hope your site gets straightened out soon.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

I see that the file is only 1.1mb, which is much smaller than I anticipated.  But it still might be worth considering data restrictions unless you are using the paid account in which case, I suspect they won't matter.  But I'm not sure.

 

At any rate, you may have already thought about these things and you may have determined that there is no cause for concern.  I'll be looking forward to your reply.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 10:50 PM

Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

Hi guys

 

it is gene from New Zealand who has the Accessibility Central.net website that is been diverted at the moment. it is not my website so please do not go to it just in case.

 

until it is sorted out or hosted elsewhere i have zipped the website up in a program called 7 zip file manager which was used to do it.

 

you might need a program like that to access the contents of it.

you might have to make a folder first then put all the files into it.

then it is a matter of going to the index file and pressing the enter key on it. to get to the information.


the zip file has been scanned with anti virus and malware programs and it says it is clean.

If you want to download the zip file it is going to be put into a drop box account which i will share on this list if you want it until this is sorted out.

the drop box link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujcz7ui1i7qxp58/Accessibility%20Central%20Website.zip?dl=0
the copy or back up is from the 19 th of July if it is all there and it looks like it.
not the thing i would usually do but just in case the info is lost for any reason i would hate it not been shared as it was doing for the community.

Gene nz

On 7/23/2017 1:54 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,
 
Could someone please post how to remove a bookmark in firefox?
I want to remove my bookmark for now to avoid clicking on the tutorial page until it is safe again.
Thanks.
 
It is totally rotten that anyone would hijack such a thoughtfully arranged resource for us.
 
Gene, I'm sorry that this has happened.
-Laurie
 
 
 

 

--
Image NVDA certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 


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Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


The website came back up last thursday morning i think it was. I just hope it does not happen again.


there is a tutorial i have written up but not posted on putting it onto a usb stick and when you click on the start.bat file either the older wway or newer way if setup correctly it will also start a copy of the website along with NVDA. it is just a matter of using the alt and tab key to bring it into focus. More for if there is no internet connection most of the stuff is written except for external links like audio files, add ons etc. But they can easily be put onto a usb stick in a folder.


It has not been put onto a page yet.


Gene nz



On 8/2/2017 8:04 PM, Peter Chin wrote:
Hello Gene N.Z.,
 
I have also downloaded your zip file and would like to thank you very much for making it available.
 
Wishing you all the best, especially with your efforts to straighten out your web page.
 
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.
 

Hi Gene NZ!

I downloaded the Drop Box Zip  file. And I have 57 HTML files, that all open great!

I was able to get to all of the tutorials and all other information. Thanks a lot, Gene NZ! I am so happy that I have all of these tutorials right on my computer now in HTML form. Thank you so much for giving us that zip file to download.

Have a great one, and I hope your site gets straightened out soon.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

I see that the file is only 1.1mb, which is much smaller than I anticipated.  But it still might be worth considering data restrictions unless you are using the paid account in which case, I suspect they won't matter.  But I'm not sure.

 

At any rate, you may have already thought about these things and you may have determined that there is no cause for concern.  I'll be looking forward to your reply.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 10:50 PM

Subject: Re: question please, Re: [nvda] accessing jean's sight.

 

Hi guys

 

it is gene from New Zealand who has the Accessibility Central.net website that is been diverted at the moment. it is not my website so please do not go to it just in case.

 

until it is sorted out or hosted elsewhere i have zipped the website up in a program called 7 zip file manager which was used to do it.

 

you might need a program like that to access the contents of it.

you might have to make a folder first then put all the files into it.

then it is a matter of going to the index file and pressing the enter key on it. to get to the information.


the zip file has been scanned with anti virus and malware programs and it says it is clean.

If you want to download the zip file it is going to be put into a drop box account which i will share on this list if you want it until this is sorted out.

the drop box link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/ujcz7ui1i7qxp58/Accessibility%20Central%20Website.zip?dl=0
the copy or back up is from the 19 th of July if it is all there and it looks like it.
not the thing i would usually do but just in case the info is lost for any reason i would hate it not been shared as it was doing for the community.

Gene nz

On 7/23/2017 1:54 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,
 
Could someone please post how to remove a bookmark in firefox?
I want to remove my bookmark for now to avoid clicking on the tutorial page until it is safe again.
Thanks.
 
It is totally rotten that anyone would hijack such a thoughtfully arranged resource for us.
 
Gene, I'm sorry that this has happened.
-Laurie
 
 
 

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Speak Typed Characters in Google Docs

Brandon Peters <bjp998@...>
 

Ah. I'm sorry. I must have misread the message. I thought you would press NVDA+shift+s rather than just NVDA+s. But my solution that I suggested, because possibly it would allow you to use NVDA commands with speech, and not having to mess with the toggle at all.

On Aug 2, 2017 9:35 PM, Andre Fisher <fishersmails123@...> wrote:

As NVDA is providing the speech output, turning off speech mode will most certainly help. Could you explain why it won’t?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brandon Peters
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speak Typed Characters in Google Docs

 

I'm sorry, but that will not work. I know from personal experience. Google Docs has its own screen reader API of sorts, and will not let others interfere in any way. If you can pass the key through, press insert z to enable cursor commands in NVDA, however I do not know if this works for certain. You could certainly give it a try though.

On Aug 2, 2017 9:01 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

It may be inconvenient but perhaps the only solution is to stop speech with NVDA key s and they resume speech with NVA key pressed twice after you finish typing.  I don't use Googledocs (spelling) but for now that may be the best solution.

 

 

Gene

 

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:18 PM

Subject: [nvda] Speak Typed Characters in Google Docs

 

So, I don't want to hear the characters that I type in a Google Doc.
i've checked my NVDA keyboard settings and speak typed characters is
definitely set to off, but I'm still hearing it. I've poked around in
Google settings but can't find any solutions to the problem. Can
someone help?

 


about reading numbers in nvda 2017.2 and before: nvda developers and experts please help me.

 

hello every one.
i wish that hear number full number in all cases.
but i cant in some cases.
for example: in some numbers which have dot, nvda reads the numbers
digit instead of full!

what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete numbers!
1. 6 3 8 9 1
instead of 1. 63891
God bless you all and i pray for you sincerely every day.


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Re: About number processing feature

 

hello.
what should i do in previous versions of nvda about numbers?
for example about version of espeak nvda says: 1. 4 8. 1 5
i wish that hear 1. 48. 15
i mean for numbers have dot, nvda says digit numbers not complete numbers!
1. 6 3 8 9 1
instead of 1. 63891

On 8/2/17, Tejas Bendre <bendre.tejas6@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
I want to say something to nvda developers. I try latest
snapshot of nvda. there is one new feature call number processing.
but I want to say something about that when I set number processing on
digit mode
that time we get digit more like
1 call one
12 call one two
123 call one two three
1234 call one two three fore
12345 call one two three four five
and so on
where 5 and above digit come that time number process should work by digit
or other tipe.
but before 5 digit digit announce like this
1 call one
12 call twelve
123 call one hunred and twenty three
1234 call twelve thirty four or one thoujen thirty four
and one more thing when I set number processing in digit mode
so that time come any where
e speek TTS speak time in digit mode only.
but I want time should be tell this way
for example current time is 12:34 so time should tell
twelve thirty four
or
twelve colen thirty four
but time saying like this
one two colon three fore.
so Can anybody nvda developer change this?
please!
Because this is very important for every user.
please forgive me for my English.
thanks



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Speak Typed Characters in Google Docs

Andre Fisher
 

As NVDA is providing the speech output, turning off speech mode will most certainly help. Could you explain why it won’t?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brandon Peters
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speak Typed Characters in Google Docs

 

I'm sorry, but that will not work. I know from personal experience. Google Docs has its own screen reader API of sorts, and will not let others interfere in any way. If you can pass the key through, press insert z to enable cursor commands in NVDA, however I do not know if this works for certain. You could certainly give it a try though.

On Aug 2, 2017 9:01 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

It may be inconvenient but perhaps the only solution is to stop speech with NVDA key s and they resume speech with NVA key pressed twice after you finish typing.  I don't use Googledocs (spelling) but for now that may be the best solution.

 

 

Gene

 

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:18 PM

Subject: [nvda] Speak Typed Characters in Google Docs

 

So, I don't want to hear the characters that I type in a Google Doc.
i've checked my NVDA keyboard settings and speak typed characters is
definitely set to off, but I'm still hearing it. I've poked around in
Google settings but can't find any solutions to the problem. Can
someone help?

 


Re: Speak Typed Characters in Google Docs

bjp998@...
 

I'm sorry, but that will not work. I know from personal experience. Google Docs has its own screen reader API of sorts, and will not let others interfere in any way. If you can pass the key through, press insert z to enable cursor commands in NVDA, however I do not know if this works for certain. You could certainly give it a try though.

On Aug 2, 2017 9:01 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
It may be inconvenient but perhaps the only solution is to stop speech with NVDA key s and they resume speech with NVA key pressed twice after you finish typing.  I don't use Googledocs (spelling) but for now that may be the best solution.
 
 
Gene

Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:18 PM
Subject: [nvda] Speak Typed Characters in Google Docs

So, I don't want to hear the characters that I type in a Google Doc.
i've checked my NVDA keyboard settings and speak typed characters is
definitely set to off, but I'm still hearing it. I've poked around in
Google settings but can't find any solutions to the problem. Can
someone help?