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Re: format factory

Dean Masters <dwmasters15@...>
 

I haven't tried Format Factory with NVDA but do use it with JAWS. But the latest version that I have been able to use is version 3.6. In later versions when you click on an item in the menu bar on the left side to choose whiat you want to convert to not all the possibilities can be read but they can be read with version 3.6.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: coffeekingms@...
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 12:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] format factory

hi all

I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when I'm
in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it seems
inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv seasons
from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to. I'm
still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open source
software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
often going through several circular links where finding the download
link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff getting
installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks

Kendell Clark


Re: Seeking Input on the Accessibility of the MySQL Workbench Software with NVDA

Martin O'Sullivan
 

Hi

I am using this software as well. however when I read  the https://dev.mysql.com/doc/workbench/en/wb-accessibility.html all it says is that it can be used with a screen reader, however you need the Java Access Bridge in stalled.  I had to install the 32 and 64 bit versions to get it to work.


However I don’t know how to navigate between windows in it without using the mouse.  So I am using the command line at the moment.            

 



Re: format factory

Gene
 

When lame is not included in a program, it is not an add on as you use the term.  It isn't included because of legal restrictions on the distribution of the MP3 format.  MP3 is not unrestricted.  for legal reasons I don't know enough to discuss, you can install Lame and use it with a program.  Programs can't distribute it as part of the program unless they get permission which, I assume, would involve paying a fee.  such programs as Audacity are designed to work with Lame, not as an add on, but as a file that you can add to the program. 
 
As far as using Audacity convert files, I would think it would be much slower than a dedicated conversion program. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] format factory

When I read this thread, I opened Audacity with a file and went to File - export audio (control+shift+e) and it offered me a range of formats.  I haven't installed any add-ins or anything.  I haven't extensively looked at what formats it offers with and without add-ins, and it probably depends on exactly what you want for other uses (eg, it doesn't matter if it offers 500 formats, if the one you use isn't listed).

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 9:44 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi quentin.
i did not know that audacity even has conversion.
i wish that can record and convert different formats without extra addons.
for example: they include laim mp3 to the program not download addon.
could you please say my request to the developers of this opensource program?

On 2/11/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Another option is audacity.  It is an editor but you can export into many
> formats and it's free: http://www.audacityteam.org/
>
> Cool blind tech did a walkthrough of Audacity with NVDA a little while ago
> as well:
> https://coolblindtech.com/audacity-windows-part-1-introduction-interface-navigation/
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:07 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
> wrote:
>
>> hi.
>> format factory is almost accessible and you can use it if you want
>> audio and video conversion.
>> maybe some other parts of it is accessible, but i dont know.
>> also, its translated into more than 60 languages, it has accessible
>> help file that you can use.
>> and also be careful that dont install extra offer during installation.
>> its better that you quit internet before installing and uncheck extra
>> offer which it wants to install.
>> also if you want to convert different formats into mp3, wave and ac3,
>> try this program.
>> its very great and the only program which i use.
>> because i convert all my formats into mp3 only!
>> its the most simple and best program in this regard.
>> its extremely simple and even does not have help file because of its
>> simplicity!
>>
>> http://www.dvdvideotool.com/1ClickExtractAudio.exe
>>
>> On 2/11/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
>> > Well if its pure audio winlame at winlame.sf.net works.
>> > Its old now I am unsure of its status but it handles most audio.
>> > I gave up on free video stuff because of opencandy, I use the applian
>> > suite which is mostly accessible well enough to use some of their
>> > stuff.
>> > For youtube I use youtube dl-g thats the gui frontend to youtube dl and
>> > that works.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/02/2017 6:13 p.m., coffeekingms@... wrote:
>> >> hi all
>> >>
>> >> I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
>> >> similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when
>> >> I'm
>> >> in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
>> >> Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
>> >> got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it
>> >> seems
>> >> inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
>> >> accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
>> >> from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
>> >> conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv
>> >> seasons
>> >> from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
>> >> and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
>> >> would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
>> >> software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
>> >> paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
>> >> completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
>> >> having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to.
>> >> I'm
>> >> still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
>> >> installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open
>> >> source
>> >> software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
>> >> often going through several circular links where finding the download
>> >> link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff
>> >> getting
>> >> installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
>> >> isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
>> >> Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
>> >> youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
>> >> appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Kendell Clark
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>> in the very authentic narration is:
>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: format factory

Quentin Christensen
 

When I read this thread, I opened Audacity with a file and went to File - export audio (control+shift+e) and it offered me a range of formats.  I haven't installed any add-ins or anything.  I haven't extensively looked at what formats it offers with and without add-ins, and it probably depends on exactly what you want for other uses (eg, it doesn't matter if it offers 500 formats, if the one you use isn't listed).

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 9:44 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi quentin.
i did not know that audacity even has conversion.
i wish that can record and convert different formats without extra addons.
for example: they include laim mp3 to the program not download addon.
could you please say my request to the developers of this opensource program?

On 2/11/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> Another option is audacity.  It is an editor but you can export into many
> formats and it's free: http://www.audacityteam.org/
>
> Cool blind tech did a walkthrough of Audacity with NVDA a little while ago
> as well:
> https://coolblindtech.com/audacity-windows-part-1-introduction-interface-navigation/
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:07 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
> wrote:
>
>> hi.
>> format factory is almost accessible and you can use it if you want
>> audio and video conversion.
>> maybe some other parts of it is accessible, but i dont know.
>> also, its translated into more than 60 languages, it has accessible
>> help file that you can use.
>> and also be careful that dont install extra offer during installation.
>> its better that you quit internet before installing and uncheck extra
>> offer which it wants to install.
>> also if you want to convert different formats into mp3, wave and ac3,
>> try this program.
>> its very great and the only program which i use.
>> because i convert all my formats into mp3 only!
>> its the most simple and best program in this regard.
>> its extremely simple and even does not have help file because of its
>> simplicity!
>>
>> http://www.dvdvideotool.com/1ClickExtractAudio.exe
>>
>> On 2/11/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
>> > Well if its pure audio winlame at winlame.sf.net works.
>> > Its old now I am unsure of its status but it handles most audio.
>> > I gave up on free video stuff because of opencandy, I use the applian
>> > suite which is mostly accessible well enough to use some of their
>> > stuff.
>> > For youtube I use youtube dl-g thats the gui frontend to youtube dl and
>> > that works.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 11/02/2017 6:13 p.m., coffeekingms@... wrote:
>> >> hi all
>> >>
>> >> I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
>> >> similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when
>> >> I'm
>> >> in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
>> >> Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
>> >> got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it
>> >> seems
>> >> inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
>> >> accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
>> >> from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
>> >> conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv
>> >> seasons
>> >> from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
>> >> and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
>> >> would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
>> >> software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
>> >> paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
>> >> completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
>> >> having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to.
>> >> I'm
>> >> still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
>> >> installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open
>> >> source
>> >> software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
>> >> often going through several circular links where finding the download
>> >> link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff
>> >> getting
>> >> installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
>> >> isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
>> >> Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
>> >> youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
>> >> appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Kendell Clark
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
>> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>> in the very authentic narration is:
>> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
>> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>> al-islam.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306
> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Lags in save as dialogues

Bryan Mckinnish
 

Hi
I've also noticed this.
It does that in most open dialogs as well.
I've seen nvda crash when the open dialog or the save as dialog closes.
It was slow in windows 8 and 8.1, but it became a bit slower in windows 10
The file list in the dialog is slow as well.
I wonder if this is a windows bug or an nvda bug.
Bryan Mckinnish

On 2/11/2017 5:12 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi,

this is definitely not related to the edit fields. The save as dialogues in general make nvda slow down. Even alt tabbing and tabbing through the dialogue causes this.


On 2/11/2017 12:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Recent versions of nvda, I cannot recall when this first started seem to suffer lags in parts of save asdialogues. Firstly it can be in Jarte or word file name entry. Say you type a complete file path into the box to over ride the default. I often find after the last \ you can carry on typing but it takes several seconds to actually say the rest of the keys you type. My feeling on this is that it has womething to do with the autocompplete which keeps changing as you type.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Brian

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Re: Lags in save as dialogues

 

hi.
i use libreoffice writer instead of word.
when i press control+s to activate save as dialog,
nvda for me is very fast and responsive.
i did not have even a little slowness in this case!

On 2/11/17, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:
hi,

this is definitely not related to the edit fields. The save as dialogues
in general make nvda slow down. Even alt tabbing and tabbing through the
dialogue causes this.


On 2/11/2017 12:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Recent versions of nvda, I cannot recall when this first started seem
to suffer lags in parts of save asdialogues. Firstly it can be in
Jarte or word file name entry. Say you type a complete file path into
the box to over ride the default. I often find after the last \ you
can carry on typing but it takes several seconds to actually say the
rest of the keys you type. My feeling on this is that it has womething
to do with the autocompplete which keeps changing as you type.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Brian

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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
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in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: format factory

 

hi quentin.
i did not know that audacity even has conversion.
i wish that can record and convert different formats without extra addons.
for example: they include laim mp3 to the program not download addon.
could you please say my request to the developers of this opensource program?

On 2/11/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Another option is audacity. It is an editor but you can export into many
formats and it's free: http://www.audacityteam.org/

Cool blind tech did a walkthrough of Audacity with NVDA a little while ago
as well:
https://coolblindtech.com/audacity-windows-part-1-introduction-interface-navigation/

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:07 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
wrote:

hi.
format factory is almost accessible and you can use it if you want
audio and video conversion.
maybe some other parts of it is accessible, but i dont know.
also, its translated into more than 60 languages, it has accessible
help file that you can use.
and also be careful that dont install extra offer during installation.
its better that you quit internet before installing and uncheck extra
offer which it wants to install.
also if you want to convert different formats into mp3, wave and ac3,
try this program.
its very great and the only program which i use.
because i convert all my formats into mp3 only!
its the most simple and best program in this regard.
its extremely simple and even does not have help file because of its
simplicity!

http://www.dvdvideotool.com/1ClickExtractAudio.exe

On 2/11/17, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Well if its pure audio winlame at winlame.sf.net works.
Its old now I am unsure of its status but it handles most audio.
I gave up on free video stuff because of opencandy, I use the applian
suite which is mostly accessible well enough to use some of their
stuff.
For youtube I use youtube dl-g thats the gui frontend to youtube dl and
that works.



On 11/02/2017 6:13 p.m., coffeekingms@... wrote:
hi all

I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when
I'm
in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it
seems
inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv
seasons
from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to.
I'm
still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open
source
software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
often going through several circular links where finding the download
link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff
getting
installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks

Kendell Clark







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: optimization tools (sorry if this is a repeat)

 

hi.
i recommend you to dont use any optimize programs.
they are not very useful and even can make harm to your system.
ccleaner is the most accessible programs.
but i recommend to not use any of these softwares.
you can read these links if you want to select one optimizer program.

http://www.techsupportalert.com/.../do-we-really-need-windows-registry-cleaners.htm
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-pc-cleaner.htm
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-pc-cleaner.htm
God bless you and Goodbye.

On 2/11/17, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
A lot of these programs are shareware and many do not work due to the way
the interface is designed. its very much suck it and see with a lot of them

I find. Ccleaner basic version is a very handy tool, and should not let you

do anything that can harm your system unless you are very silly indeed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ame" <abk043@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 6:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] optimization tools (sorry if this is a repeat)


Hello all!

I just attempted to send a message and I don’t think it went anywhere and I

didn’t see it in my sent folder. I’m curious about optimization software,
preferably free. I googled it and found a site called tech radar. I don’t

know the actual web address. They had compiled a list of the optimization
programs they’d found. At the very top of the list was something called
Iolo System Mechanic. CCleaner (I have it on my computer), was their third

favorite. Does anybody know anything about Iolo System Mechanic? Does it
work for people like us?

Thanks so much. Have a great day!




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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

I have systray list.

On 2/11/2017 11:56 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Yes, I have a number of add-ons installed, but several are application specific, such as Winamp, Goldwave and other Vocalizer languages.

Regards

Christo


On 2017/02/11 9:10 AM, Andre Fisher wrote:
A quick question, do any of you guys have add-ons installed?

On 2/11/17, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
I can confirm that I also experience this sluggishness in Word, but it
isn't confined to Word 2016; I am experiencing it in Word 2013. I am
using the latest NVDA snapshot. At times it is so sluggish, I can almost
imagine that I am using Window-Eyes.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2017/02/11 7:44 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi david,

Glad to see someone else is experiencing this! I am also experiencing
exactly what you describe. However this occurs with documents with
tables especially. And it gradually gets worse and worse as I read or
arrow through the document. It gets to a point where I notice a 10-20
second delay between key presses. And it still continues to get worse.


On 2/11/2017 4:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are
similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With
other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as
expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret
or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press
an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an
unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off
Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling
graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state,
rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These
steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key,
there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time
I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent,
even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move
focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As
an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be
some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just
guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my
screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to
see if others who have experienced this might have found other
workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted
word, turned off
"Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different
sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still
with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the
answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille
feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY
because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If
you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it,
there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or
close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA
will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down.
In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste
grouping.







Re: Lags in save as dialogues

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

this is definitely not related to the edit fields. The save as dialogues in general make nvda slow down. Even alt tabbing and tabbing through the dialogue causes this.

On 2/11/2017 12:30 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Recent versions of nvda, I cannot recall when this first started seem to suffer lags in parts of save asdialogues. Firstly it can be in Jarte or word file name entry. Say you type a complete file path into the box to over ride the default. I often find after the last \ you can carry on typing but it takes several seconds to actually say the rest of the keys you type. My feeling on this is that it has womething to do with the autocompplete which keeps changing as you type.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Brian

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Re: optimization tools (sorry if this is a repeat)

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A lot of these programs are shareware and many do not work due to the way the interface is designed. its very much suck it and see with a lot of them I find. Ccleaner basic version is a very handy tool, and should not let you do anything that can harm your system unless you are very silly indeed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 6:48 PM
Subject: [nvda] optimization tools (sorry if this is a repeat)


Hello all!

I just attempted to send a message and I don’t think it went anywhere and I didn’t see it in my sent folder. I’m curious about optimization software, preferably free. I googled it and found a site called tech radar. I don’t know the actual web address. They had compiled a list of the optimization programs they’d found. At the very top of the list was something called Iolo System Mechanic. CCleaner (I have it on my computer), was their third favorite. Does anybody know anything about Iolo System Mechanic? Does it work for people like us?

Thanks so much. Have a great day!


Re: Symbol pronunciation dictionary

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I cannot answer them all as I've never tried using all of them, but the way it is said or interpreted in different contexts ie when reading the document or cursoring through it etc can be tested by changing something common and seeing what the results are.
I suspect it also to some extend changes with language in use as well.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Sykes-Lindley" <damien@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 7:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] Symbol pronunciation dictionary


Hi,
I’m slightly confused as to how this feature works. There is brief documentation in the user guide but, it seems, not enough to cover all aspects.

1. Different labels for the same symbol
In the list there are duplicated symbols, but that have additional labels such as sentence-ending, phrase-ending etc. What is the difference between them and how do they relate to NVDA processing them?

2. Punctuation level setting
Not sure how this works. Is that something to do with when the symbol is read out as a character and when it is read as a linguistic feature? If so, what’s the character option for?

3. Send to synth setting
Again, not sure how this works. My understanding is that all text is sent to the synth to be spoken. The only possible explanation I can think of is that when reading as a character NVDA would need to convert that into a word. But then wouldn’t you want it read as a word in that case? Struggling to tell the two options apart.

4. Multichar expressions
The document mentions nothing to do with multicharacter symbols. Such symbols are common in programming (<=, >=, :: etc). Can it process these?
Cheers.
Damien.


Lags in save as dialogues

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Recent versions of nvda, I cannot recall when this first started seem to suffer lags in parts of save asdialogues. Firstly it can be in Jarte or word file name entry. Say you type a complete file path into the box to over ride the default. I often find after the last \ you can carry on typing but it takes several seconds to actually say the rest of the keys you type. My feeling on this is that it has womething to do with the autocompplete which keeps changing as you type.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Brian

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Re: format factory

Quentin Christensen
 

Another option is audacity.  It is an editor but you can export into many formats and it's free: http://www.audacityteam.org/

Cool blind tech did a walkthrough of Audacity with NVDA a little while ago as well: https://coolblindtech.com/audacity-windows-part-1-introduction-interface-navigation/

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 8:07 PM, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
hi.
format factory is almost accessible and you can use it if you want
audio and video conversion.
maybe some other parts of it is accessible, but i dont know.
also, its translated into more than 60 languages, it has accessible
help file that you can use.
and also be careful that dont install extra offer during installation.
its better that you quit internet before installing and uncheck extra
offer which it wants to install.
also if you want to convert different formats into mp3, wave and ac3,
try this program.
its very great and the only program which i use.
because i convert all my formats into mp3 only!
its the most simple and best program in this regard.
its extremely simple and even does not have help file because of its simplicity!

http://www.dvdvideotool.com/1ClickExtractAudio.exe

On 2/11/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
> Well if its pure audio winlame at winlame.sf.net works.
> Its old now I am unsure of its status but it handles most audio.
> I gave up on free video stuff because of opencandy, I use the applian
> suite which is mostly accessible well enough to use some of their stuff.
> For youtube I use youtube dl-g thats the gui frontend to youtube dl and
> that works.
>
>
>
> On 11/02/2017 6:13 p.m., coffeekingms@... wrote:
>> hi all
>>
>> I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
>> similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when I'm
>> in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
>> Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
>> got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it seems
>> inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
>> accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
>> from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
>> conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv seasons
>> from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
>> and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
>> would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
>> software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
>> paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
>> completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
>> having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to. I'm
>> still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
>> installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open source
>> software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
>> often going through several circular links where finding the download
>> link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff getting
>> installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
>> isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
>> Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
>> youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kendell Clark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: ndva

Gene
 

There is also a popular tutorial available at present from this site though it's location will change soon. 
 
You can download individual sections or a zip file of the entire tutorial.
 
I don't think it deals with the latest features and changes but it covers NVDA well.
 
Gene
----- Original Message ------

Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 8:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] ndva

I am new to NDVA, could someone please send me some learning instructions on how to use it

thank you

best wishes

Rosy


Re: Deleting a Comment in Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Definitely, I just replied to your other message noting this and a few other options.  I needn't have gone into quite so much detail if I'd read this message first *grin*.

Thanks,

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin and all,

 

There is an easier way to delete a comment.

  1. Use the next or previous comment commands in the  ribbon to get to the comment..
  2. Hit the applications key to activate the context menu.
  3. One of the options is delete.

Pranav




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Re: Deleting a Coment in Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Pranav,

Have you found NVDA to not read options in the context menu?  I just tried and I can get to the reply / delete comment options in the context menu fine with NVDA 2016.4.  The trick is that you need to be in the comment itself - NOT in the main part of the document.  Pressing A in Browse mode or using the elements list dialog takes you to where the comment is in the main body of text.  That's fine if you just want to read the comment.  You need to press alt+r then n to move to the next comment, to move to the actual comment itself if you want to edit / reply / delete.  It is also possible, but a little annoying, to delete a comment from within the text - you need to go to the end of the word with the comment and backspace the last character (you then need to retype the last character of the word).

Note, if what you actually want to do is get rid of all the comments, you can do that by pressing alt+r, then d, then o.

And if you don't care about the comments either way but need to print the document without comments, you can press control+p to print, then tab to "Print what" and down arrow to where it says "print markup" and space to uncheck that before printing.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:
<snip
The delete/edit/reply to comment  used to be in that context menu of older
versions of office. The context menu accessed by right clicking/applications key
is very sparse in new versions (2010 and later.) Now you have to jump through a
lot of hoops to accomplish things that could be done with a few keyboard
presses.
PL] Those options are still there in the context menu but  NVDA is not landing
at the right place. I am not   sure how Jaws worked with comments but I would be
on a comment and could invoke the context menu using jaws and delete and do
other things.

Pranav







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Re: format factory

 

hi.
format factory is almost accessible and you can use it if you want
audio and video conversion.
maybe some other parts of it is accessible, but i dont know.
also, its translated into more than 60 languages, it has accessible
help file that you can use.
and also be careful that dont install extra offer during installation.
its better that you quit internet before installing and uncheck extra
offer which it wants to install.
also if you want to convert different formats into mp3, wave and ac3,
try this program.
its very great and the only program which i use.
because i convert all my formats into mp3 only!
its the most simple and best program in this regard.
its extremely simple and even does not have help file because of its simplicity!

http://www.dvdvideotool.com/1ClickExtractAudio.exe

On 2/11/17, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Well if its pure audio winlame at winlame.sf.net works.
Its old now I am unsure of its status but it handles most audio.
I gave up on free video stuff because of opencandy, I use the applian
suite which is mostly accessible well enough to use some of their stuff.
For youtube I use youtube dl-g thats the gui frontend to youtube dl and
that works.



On 11/02/2017 6:13 p.m., coffeekingms@... wrote:
hi all

I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when I'm
in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it seems
inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv seasons
from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to. I'm
still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open source
software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
often going through several circular links where finding the download
link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff getting
installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks

Kendell Clark






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: ndva

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Maureen,

As others have suggested, the User Guide has information on all the commands, although not necessarily a detailed explanation on each.  If you are coming from Jaws, there is a guide to transitioning here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

If you are interested in training materials which cover the full feature set of NVDA, we offer some official training modules in the NV Access shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Note that we do now have audio available for the Basic Training for NVDA module, as well as Braille and eText.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 1:45 AM, Maureen McKenzie via Groups.Io <rosymck@...> wrote:
I am new to NDVA, could someone please send me some learning instructions on how to use it

thank you

best wishes

Rosy




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Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Christo de Klerk
 

Yes, I have a number of add-ons installed, but several are application specific, such as Winamp, Goldwave and other Vocalizer languages.

Regards

Christo

On 2017/02/11 9:10 AM, Andre Fisher wrote:
A quick question, do any of you guys have add-ons installed?

On 2/11/17, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
I can confirm that I also experience this sluggishness in Word, but it
isn't confined to Word 2016; I am experiencing it in Word 2013. I am
using the latest NVDA snapshot. At times it is so sluggish, I can almost
imagine that I am using Window-Eyes.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2017/02/11 7:44 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi david,

Glad to see someone else is experiencing this! I am also experiencing
exactly what you describe. However this occurs with documents with
tables especially. And it gradually gets worse and worse as I read or
arrow through the document. It gets to a point where I notice a 10-20
second delay between key presses. And it still continues to get worse.


On 2/11/2017 4:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are
similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With
other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as
expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret
or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press
an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an
unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off
Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling
graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state,
rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These
steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key,
there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time
I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent,
even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move
focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As
an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be
some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just
guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my
screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to
see if others who have experienced this might have found other
workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted
word, turned off
"Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different
sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still
with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the
answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille
feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY
because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If
you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it,
there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or
close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA
will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down.
In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste
grouping.