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Re: Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Gene
 

I'm not sure how much you can do with the mouse and how much with the keyboard.  I'll let others discuss that. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Thank you Gene.

I do think a program like this is appropriate for my disability.
I do have a severe cognitive impairment, and need a lot of
if not all the text read to me.  

This program seems to work well, except that the voices
it comes with are tough to understand.

I went to the link to buy voices, but the link fails to load:


Clearly the mouse doesn't work very well, so I will need to
also learn how to navigate with the keyboard.  Is it
easy to learn?  Right now I'm not sure how to.

Thanks,
Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Apr 14, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function

It shouldn't speak quickly by default.  If you installed it earlier and made it speak quickly, this may affect how it is speaking now but I don't know.  There are various ways of slowing speech.  One way is to use the keyboard command NVDA key control v.  By default, the NVDA key is either insert.  Hold either insert and control and type v.  That opens the voice dialog.  By  sight, I assume you will see a slider to change the rate of speech. 
 
If you don't install NVDA or create a portable version, no settings you make may be kept.  When you use the continue running option, you are actually running it as though it were a portable version without creating a portable version.  To save settings, you should do one or the other.
 
You are using NVDA with a mouse, as I understand your message.  I don't know how or if you can do any of the things you want to do.  NVDA is intended to be used with the keyboard and, as I understand it, the mouse support is not a substitute for this and probably has very limited functionality.  In addition, using a browser that supports browse mode may mean that what you would normally do using sight and a mouse may not work as expected.  There is a command in NVDA, speak to end.  You can place the cursor where you want it and read as far as you want, then stop reading with the control key.  The command is NVDA key, otherwise by default either insert, and down arrow. 
 
Others may have more information or may know how to do what you want with a mouse.  I don't know if it's possible.  Chrome works well with NVDA but as you are using it, with a mouse only, it may not.  As I said, N
NVDA is intended to be used with the keyboard except for certain specific uses with a mouse.
 
Have you spoken or contacted groups or individuals who use speech but can see for such problems as dyslexia?  I still very much question whether a screen-reader is the proper solution. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Hello group, I've returned.

I ended up trying out NVDA and came back here for some advice and help.

I have a few questions about it:

1. I've noticed it speaks very fast, too fast for me to understand what
it is saying.  Is there a way to change how fast it speaks, or will
this automatically change when you buy a new voice for it?

2. It appears to read just one single line at a time, based on where the
mouse is.  Is there a way to make it read entire paragraphs at a time,
or to hi-lite paragraphs for it to read?  Or to make it read everything
below a certain point on the screen, for multiple paragraphs?

3. It doesn't seem to work very well for Chrome browsers, it has trouble
reading just about everything that is in the Chrome browser actually.  Is
there a way to fix this?

4. I am choosing the "continue running" option, instead of installing.
Will this effect my ability to tweek the program?

Thank you, I know its a lot of questions :)



Re: Tweeking NVDA voices and function

 

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 03:36 pm, Fantasy Sports wrote:
some documents which have no cursor on the screen don't respond to that.

 Can you give an example, if its something outside a web browser, of what you're talking about?  I can try to see what I can do with it, if anything.
--
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            ~ Dorothy Nevill



Reading menus in Excel?

 

Hello,
I have an Excel File that I need to choose a menu option in. It is attached.
How  do I do this with NVDA? IN Google Sheets I press enter and down arrow, but f2 and down arrow doesn't work here. The menu is under IEP. 
Thanks,


Re: Tweeking NVDA voices and function

 

Paul,

          Presuming you install the program, so that your settings changes are saved, many of the things you ask about can be done.

          It would be really helpful to know what version of Windows you're running under and what programs you're trying to use NVDA with in order to be more specific in guidance.


On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 02:26 pm, Fantasy Sports wrote:

1. I've noticed it speaks very fast, too fast for me to understand what
it is saying. Is there a way to change how fast it speaks, or will
this automatically change when you buy a new voice for it.

             If you happen to be running under Windows 10, and your purpose for using NVDA is primarily to have things read to you so that you can listen rather than trying to read them yourself, I would strongly suggest that you change your synthesizer to Microsoft Speech API-5 and your Voice to one of the two that are built into Windows 10 for SAPI-5, David for male voice and Zira for female.  I am presuming you know how to right click on the NVDA icon in the system tray to cause the NVDA menu to come up.  Both of the above settings fall under the Preferences menu.  Synthesizer is under synthesizer and voice is under voice.  The first slider in the Voice dialog is rate.  You can use this to increase or decrease the speech rate, and this is true whatever synthesizer and voice combination you happen to be using.



2. It appears to read just one single line at a time, based on where the
mouse is. Is there a way to make it read entire paragraphs at a time,
or to hi-lite paragraphs for it to read? Or to make it read everything
below a certain point on the screen, for multiple paragraphs?

So far in my playing with this the answer depends on the program, but someone who uses NVDA as their primary access method may be able to answer the following question for me, which will help me help you if there is a way:   How does one route the system caret to the mouse position when you're in a web browser?

When I'm in Microsoft Word, for example, I can easily achieve your goal of getting focus to where the mouse is and to continue reading from there.  After I've heard NVDA give the voice output for the line over which it is hovering I can simply click the mouse and the system carat is there (or close to it if I bumped it slightly).  I can get NVDA to Say All from that point by hitting INS+Down Arrow since I'm using the desktop keyboard layout.  It will do exactly what one would expect, keep reading from that point.   However, when I'm in a web browser (and it doesn't matter which one)  the behavior is quite different.  If I'm reading this group on Groups.io, for instance, as I run the mouse down the page it will read the line over which I'm hovering, but when I click it does not move the system caret to that point like it does in Word.  I've also tried the "navigate to the object under the mouse" command, which causes the same text I just heard during hover over to be repeated, but the system carat doesn't move and neither, it seems, does what NVDA has focus on because I generally seem to still have focus on a link at the top of the page that's outside the area that I'm hovering over entirely.  I just cannot seem to figure out how to force the system caret to the mouse location via NVDA and the usual sighted way of clicking where my mouse pointer indicates I am isn't doing it either.



3. It doesn't seem to work very well for Chrome browsers, it has trouble
reading just about everything that is in the Chrome browser actually. Is
there a way to fix this?

                   It's not just for Chrome but the problem is more related to mouse-based use than keyboard based use.  One thing you might want to try is hitting INS+F7, and when the NVDA elements dialog comes up select the Headings radio button to see the various headings in the webpage.  You can then jump to various spots on the page quite easily and have NVDA start reading from there.  This only works, of course, on pages that are coded with headings but that's an awful lot of pages.

                   I'm still trying to figure out a fast and efficient method to read the online archive for any Groups.io group with a screen reader.  It's taking longer than I had expected!

                   There are definite differences in the way someone who's sighted would use screen readers than their target audience does.

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Re: Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
 

Can't find seem to find the command for SPEAK TO END.

Also, have been doing a lot of experimenting with INSERT
and the down arrows, but some documents which have
no cursor on the screen don't respond to that.



-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Apr 14, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function

It shouldn't speak quickly by default.  If you installed it earlier and made it speak quickly, this may affect how it is speaking now but I don't know.  There are various ways of slowing speech.  One way is to use the keyboard command NVDA key control v.  By default, the NVDA key is either insert.  Hold either insert and control and type v.  That opens the voice dialog.  By  sight, I assume you will see a slider to change the rate of speech. 
 
If you don't install NVDA or create a portable version, no settings you make may be kept.  When you use the continue running option, you are actually running it as though it were a portable version without creating a portable version.  To save settings, you should do one or the other.
 
You are using NVDA with a mouse, as I understand your message.  I don't know how or if you can do any of the things you want to do.  NVDA is intended to be used with the keyboard and, as I understand it, the mouse support is not a substitute for this and probably has very limited functionality.  In addition, using a browser that supports browse mode may mean that what you would normally do using sight and a mouse may not work as expected.  There is a command in NVDA, speak to end.  You can place the cursor where you want it and read as far as you want, then stop reading with the control key.  The command is NVDA key, otherwise by default either insert, and down arrow. 
 
Others may have more information or may know how to do what you want with a mouse.  I don't know if it's possible.  Chrome works well with NVDA but as you are using it, with a mouse only, it may not.  As I said, N
NVDA is intended to be used with the keyboard except for certain specific uses with a mouse.
 
Have you spoken or contacted groups or individuals who use speech but can see for such problems as dyslexia?  I still very much question whether a screen-reader is the proper solution. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Hello group, I've returned.

I ended up trying out NVDA and came back here for some advice and help.

I have a few questions about it:

1. I've noticed it speaks very fast, too fast for me to understand what
it is saying.  Is there a way to change how fast it speaks, or will
this automatically change when you buy a new voice for it?

2. It appears to read just one single line at a time, based on where the
mouse is.  Is there a way to make it read entire paragraphs at a time,
or to hi-lite paragraphs for it to read?  Or to make it read everything
below a certain point on the screen, for multiple paragraphs?

3. It doesn't seem to work very well for Chrome browsers, it has trouble
reading just about everything that is in the Chrome browser actually.  Is
there a way to fix this?

4. I am choosing the "continue running" option, instead of installing.
Will this effect my ability to tweek the program?

Thank you, I know its a lot of questions :)



Re: Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
 

Thank you Gene.

I do think a program like this is appropriate for my disability.
I do have a severe cognitive impairment, and need a lot of
if not all the text read to me.  

This program seems to work well, except that the voices
it comes with are tough to understand.

I went to the link to buy voices, but the link fails to load:

http://www.vocalizer-nvda.com/en

Clearly the mouse doesn't work very well, so I will need to
also learn how to navigate with the keyboard.  Is it
easy to learn?  Right now I'm not sure how to.

Thanks,
Paul



-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Apr 14, 2017 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function

It shouldn't speak quickly by default.  If you installed it earlier and made it speak quickly, this may affect how it is speaking now but I don't know.  There are various ways of slowing speech.  One way is to use the keyboard command NVDA key control v.  By default, the NVDA key is either insert.  Hold either insert and control and type v.  That opens the voice dialog.  By  sight, I assume you will see a slider to change the rate of speech. 
 
If you don't install NVDA or create a portable version, no settings you make may be kept.  When you use the continue running option, you are actually running it as though it were a portable version without creating a portable version.  To save settings, you should do one or the other.
 
You are using NVDA with a mouse, as I understand your message.  I don't know how or if you can do any of the things you want to do.  NVDA is intended to be used with the keyboard and, as I understand it, the mouse support is not a substitute for this and probably has very limited functionality.  In addition, using a browser that supports browse mode may mean that what you would normally do using sight and a mouse may not work as expected.  There is a command in NVDA, speak to end.  You can place the cursor where you want it and read as far as you want, then stop reading with the control key.  The command is NVDA key, otherwise by default either insert, and down arrow. 
 
Others may have more information or may know how to do what you want with a mouse.  I don't know if it's possible.  Chrome works well with NVDA but as you are using it, with a mouse only, it may not.  As I said, N
NVDA is intended to be used with the keyboard except for certain specific uses with a mouse.
 
Have you spoken or contacted groups or individuals who use speech but can see for such problems as dyslexia?  I still very much question whether a screen-reader is the proper solution. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Hello group, I've returned.

I ended up trying out NVDA and came back here for some advice and help.

I have a few questions about it:

1. I've noticed it speaks very fast, too fast for me to understand what
it is saying.  Is there a way to change how fast it speaks, or will
this automatically change when you buy a new voice for it?

2. It appears to read just one single line at a time, based on where the
mouse is.  Is there a way to make it read entire paragraphs at a time,
or to hi-lite paragraphs for it to read?  Or to make it read everything
below a certain point on the screen, for multiple paragraphs?

3. It doesn't seem to work very well for Chrome browsers, it has trouble
reading just about everything that is in the Chrome browser actually.  Is
there a way to fix this?

4. I am choosing the "continue running" option, instead of installing.
Will this effect my ability to tweek the program?

Thank you, I know its a lot of questions :)



Re: Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Gene
 

It shouldn't speak quickly by default.  If you installed it earlier and made it speak quickly, this may affect how it is speaking now but I don't know.  There are various ways of slowing speech.  One way is to use the keyboard command NVDA key control v.  By default, the NVDA key is either insert.  Hold either insert and control and type v.  That opens the voice dialog.  By  sight, I assume you will see a slider to change the rate of speech. 
 
If you don't install NVDA or create a portable version, no settings you make may be kept.  When you use the continue running option, you are actually running it as though it were a portable version without creating a portable version.  To save settings, you should do one or the other.
 
You are using NVDA with a mouse, as I understand your message.  I don't know how or if you can do any of the things you want to do.  NVDA is intended to be used with the keyboard and, as I understand it, the mouse support is not a substitute for this and probably has very limited functionality.  In addition, using a browser that supports browse mode may mean that what you would normally do using sight and a mouse may not work as expected.  There is a command in NVDA, speak to end.  You can place the cursor where you want it and read as far as you want, then stop reading with the control key.  The command is NVDA key, otherwise by default either insert, and down arrow. 
 
Others may have more information or may know how to do what you want with a mouse.  I don't know if it's possible.  Chrome works well with NVDA but as you are using it, with a mouse only, it may not.  As I said, N
NVDA is intended to be used with the keyboard except for certain specific uses with a mouse.
 
Have you spoken or contacted groups or individuals who use speech but can see for such problems as dyslexia?  I still very much question whether a screen-reader is the proper solution. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:20 PM
Subject: [nvda] Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Hello group, I've returned.

I ended up trying out NVDA and came back here for some advice and help.

I have a few questions about it:

1. I've noticed it speaks very fast, too fast for me to understand what
it is saying.  Is there a way to change how fast it speaks, or will
this automatically change when you buy a new voice for it?

2. It appears to read just one single line at a time, based on where the
mouse is.  Is there a way to make it read entire paragraphs at a time,
or to hi-lite paragraphs for it to read?  Or to make it read everything
below a certain point on the screen, for multiple paragraphs?

3. It doesn't seem to work very well for Chrome browsers, it has trouble
reading just about everything that is in the Chrome browser actually.  Is
there a way to fix this?

4. I am choosing the "continue running" option, instead of installing.
Will this effect my ability to tweek the program?

Thank you, I know its a lot of questions :)



Tweeking NVDA voices and function

Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
 

Hello group, I've returned.

I ended up trying out NVDA and came back here for some advice and help.

I have a few questions about it:

1. I've noticed it speaks very fast, too fast for me to understand what
it is saying. Is there a way to change how fast it speaks, or will
this automatically change when you buy a new voice for it?

2. It appears to read just one single line at a time, based on where the
mouse is. Is there a way to make it read entire paragraphs at a time,
or to hi-lite paragraphs for it to read? Or to make it read everything
below a certain point on the screen, for multiple paragraphs?

3. It doesn't seem to work very well for Chrome browsers, it has trouble
reading just about everything that is in the Chrome browser actually. Is
there a way to fix this?

4. I am choosing the "continue running" option, instead of installing.
Will this effect my ability to tweek the program?

Thank you, I know its a lot of questions :)


Re: vocalizer tiflotecnia

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 

there are acouple of problems. One is that once I select a compact voice some times I can't switch back to h q voice. Plus there are new voices in the new package. I was told last September it was going to be released, but six month later and it's not. Just wondering, and why the attitude, "yes when it's ready." with out an explanation for the delay or anything. That's not nice.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotecnia


Que pasa RUe? Will you all ever support the Vocalizer II voices that VFO Group does in the future?


On 4/14/2017 11:53 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Yes, it will be released as soon as it is ready...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original----- De: Quentin Christensen
Data: 14 de abril de 2017 06:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotechnia


Rui from Tiflotechnica is on this forum so hopefully can answer, but in the meantime, are you experiencing a particular problem that you hope an update will resolve? Or is there a particular feature you would like in a new update?

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Isaac <bigikemusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, are they ever going to update the driver and voices?











Re: vocalizer tiflotecnia

Lino Morales
 

Que pasa RUe? Will you all ever support the Vocalizer II voices that VFO Group does in the future?

On 4/14/2017 11:53 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Yes, it will be released as soon as it is ready...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original----- De: Quentin Christensen
Data: 14 de abril de 2017 06:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotechnia


Rui from Tiflotechnica is on this forum so hopefully can answer, but in the meantime, are you experiencing a particular problem that you hope an update will resolve? Or is there a particular feature you would like in a new update?

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Isaac <bigikemusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, are they ever going to update the driver and voices?










Re: Anyone ever thought about making NVDA recognize NVDA or nvda as its own acronym?

Lino Morales
 

I agree. Also I wish the startup message was shortened. If you use a Braille display it just plane says NVDA started. Short and sweet.


On 4/14/2017 11:06 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

In playing with a couple of things this morning it hit me that when NVDA sees either NVDA in all caps or nvda in lower case, using the synthesizer I'm using (SAPI-5) it always pronounces it as "en vda"  (I don't even know how to write out something I think would be pronounced correctly) rather than N V D A.

The probability of NVDA ever occuring, whether upper case, lower case, or mixed case as a stand alone word that is something other than the N V D A acronym is so vanishingly close to zero that I'd think building in recognition of itself, and saying N V D A like it does when starting up and shutting down, would be a nice touch.
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I’m delighted to announce the immediate release of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on 17.04.1. If you are using Creators Update and/or Skype app update released in March, please update to this add-on release. More info can be found at:

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Re: vocalizer tiflotechnia

Nimer Jaber
 

There are crashes with certain text strings. There are pronunciation issues. There are a lack of new voices that have been released on other platforms. I could go on, but why bother? Fact is, this community heard about an update that was purportedly coming over a year ago, and we still have yet to see anything about this update... the representative from this company keeps telling us that it is coming, but I think that those of us who use it have reached our patience limit with this speech engine. There are alternatives which users can use and still get access to Vocalizer, and I highly recommend them.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 12:17 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Rui from Tiflotechnica is on this forum so hopefully can answer, but in the meantime, are you experiencing a particular problem that you hope an update will resolve?  Or is there a particular feature you would like in a new update?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Isaac <bigikemusic@...> wrote:
Hi, are they ever going to update the driver and voices?




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Re: Reading of numbers

 

hi again.
i only use espeak and fortunately does not read for me 1 point 4-9
its says 1 point 49 for example about version of espeak.

On 4/14/17, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
Regardless of whether one would want something like 2.2.23 read as two point
two point twenty-three or two point two point two three the only likely way
you're going to get that to happen is by using regular expressions to
recognize "numbers not likely to be money or other standard 2-decimal place
numbers."

The number string matched by the regular expression would then be broken
apart into its component parts then spoken.   I had to do something similar
for the word, "cup," which, for some unknown reason, was constantly being
read as "Cuban pesos" if it occurred after a number, and I was dealing with
recipes, so two Cuban pesos of flour made no sense.  Oddly enough, if you
substituted "Cup", with a capital C, for "cup" and the synthesizer got that
it would say "cup."

I'm trying to think about how a regular expression could be constructed for
this if the number of point separated numbers is unknown and could be more
than three number groupings.  It can be done, but I'm rusty in thinking up
how it could be done.
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Re: vocalizer tiflotecnia

Nimer Jaber
 

I believe that there is no update, that all this hype isn't doing any good. A year ago, this update was coming. Since then, we keep asking and the update is still coming. I highly recommend that, if you wish to use Vocalizer with more voices, check out the version from code factory. I also own Vocalizer for NVDA, and due to PC upgrades I requested a reset of my licenses, however this never happened. Stay away from this product. If many in the community weren't using it, I would consider a ban on the topic of this particular TTS engine, as I hate to think of the users buying it that have not received updates or support.

Thanks.


On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 10:56 AM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
What exactly is delaying the release of the update? There are
additional voices and higher qualiy speech to be gained from this
update. I don't use the product, but am curious as to the reason for
the delay

On 4/14/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
> Yes, it will be released as soon as it is ready...
>
> Regards,
>
> Rui Fontes
> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>
>
> -----Mensagem Original-----
> De: Quentin Christensen
> Data: 14 de abril de 2017 06:17
> Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotechnia
>
>
> Rui from Tiflotechnica is on this forum so hopefully can answer, but in the
>
> meantime, are you experiencing a particular problem that you hope an update
>
> will resolve?  Or is there a particular feature you would like in a new
> update?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Isaac <bigikemusic@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, are they ever going to update the driver and voices?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
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Re: Email Client

Gene
 

No, NVDA reads the items in the same way. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

Yes that is what I mean go through and check the items you want in the spell tab if he is using WLM 2012 there is an options sub menu and in there is
one called mail and there are several tabs in there and one is called spell tab using jaws you need to tab through there and check the options you
want. I hope you can understand what I mean this time I have not used NVDA in there so jaws may read differently I was only trying to help maybe
NVDA reads this differently I hope this may help.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 11:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 
I'm not sure what you mean by check the spell tab.  You can't check the spell tab, it isn't a check item.  It's a tab that announces that you are in the spell part of the dialog.  If you mean check the items in the spell tab, meaning tab around and look at how they are set, that may help, but I doubt it.  But there's no harm in trying.
 
Gene

----- Original Messsage ------
From: andy.tidwell
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 
This may sound crazy but did you go in to the options and mail options and check the spell tab?
 
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 

I'll second Gene's suggestion that you do not uninstall Microsoft Office.

It is a simple matter to uninstall and reinstall Windows Live Mail (provided you have the installer downloaded already, and if you don't you can snag in in 7z zipped format here) and, provided you've been using IMAP access to get to your email account(s) all of your messages will have been retained on the server and will be visible again when you set up your account(s) in a fresh installation of WLM.  If you've been using POP, with the conventional settings that delete messages from the server either on download or after a certain number of days, the issue becomes significantly more complicated if you need to keep old messages.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill

 

Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?
Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Re: Email Client

andy.tidwell
 

Yes that is what I mean go through and check the items you want in the spell tab if he is using WLM 2012 there is an options sub menu and in there is
one called mail and there are several tabs in there and one is called spell tab using jaws you need to tab through there and check the options you
want. I hope you can understand what I mean this time I have not used NVDA in there so jaws may read differently I was only trying to help maybe
NVDA reads this differently I hope this may help.
 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 11:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 
I'm not sure what you mean by check the spell tab.  You can't check the spell tab, it isn't a check item.  It's a tab that announces that you are in the spell part of the dialog.  If you mean check the items in the spell tab, meaning tab around and look at how they are set, that may help, but I doubt it.  But there's no harm in trying.
 
Gene

----- Original Messsage ------
From: andy.tidwell
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 
This may sound crazy but did you go in to the options and mail options and check the spell tab?
 
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 

I'll second Gene's suggestion that you do not uninstall Microsoft Office.

It is a simple matter to uninstall and reinstall Windows Live Mail (provided you have the installer downloaded already, and if you don't you can snag in in 7z zipped format here) and, provided you've been using IMAP access to get to your email account(s) all of your messages will have been retained on the server and will be visible again when you set up your account(s) in a fresh installation of WLM.  If you've been using POP, with the conventional settings that delete messages from the server either on download or after a certain number of days, the issue becomes significantly more complicated if you need to keep old messages.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill

 

Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?
Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Re: vocalizer tiflotecnia

Andre Fisher
 

What exactly is delaying the release of the update? There are
additional voices and higher qualiy speech to be gained from this
update. I don't use the product, but am curious as to the reason for
the delay

On 4/14/17, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> wrote:
Yes, it will be released as soon as it is ready...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Quentin Christensen
Data: 14 de abril de 2017 06:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotechnia


Rui from Tiflotechnica is on this forum so hopefully can answer, but in the

meantime, are you experiencing a particular problem that you hope an update

will resolve? Or is there a particular feature you would like in a new
update?

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Isaac <bigikemusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, are they ever going to update the driver and voices?










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Re: vocalizer tiflotecnia

Rui Fontes
 

Yes, it will be released as soon as it is ready...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Quentin Christensen
Data: 14 de abril de 2017 06:17
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer tiflotechnia


Rui from Tiflotechnica is on this forum so hopefully can answer, but in the meantime, are you experiencing a particular problem that you hope an update will resolve? Or is there a particular feature you would like in a new update?

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Isaac <bigikemusic@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, are they ever going to update the driver and voices?










--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Anyone ever thought about making NVDA recognize NVDA or nvda as its own acronym?

Rui Fontes
 

Not all! NASA, by example, is read as a word...

Rui

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 14 de abril de 2017 16:20
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Anyone ever thought about making NVDA recognize NVDA or nvda as its own acronym?



On my machine, if NVDA is written as capital letters, it is pronounced properly. This is a general behavior. Any time a number of letters is written together and capitalized, Radio station WBBM, for example, the letters are read individually.

Gene

----- Original Message -----


On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 08:06 am, Brian Vogel wrote:


In playing with a couple of things this morning it hit me that when NVDA sees either NVDA in all caps or nvda in lower case, using the synthesizer I'm using (SAPI-5) it always pronounces it as "en vda" (I don't even know how to write out something I think would be pronounced correctly) rather than N V D A.

The probability of NVDA ever occuring, whether upper case, lower case, or mixed case as a stand alone word that is something other than the N V D A acronym is so vanishingly close to zero that I'd think building in recognition of itself, and saying N V D A like it does when starting up and shutting down, would be a nice touch.
--
Brian



The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill