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Re: ndva

Gene
 

There is also a popular tutorial available at present from this site though it's location will change soon. 
 
You can download individual sections or a zip file of the entire tutorial.
 
I don't think it deals with the latest features and changes but it covers NVDA well.
 
Gene
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 8:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] ndva

I am new to NDVA, could someone please send me some learning instructions on how to use it

thank you

best wishes

Rosy


Re: Deleting a Comment in Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Definitely, I just replied to your other message noting this and a few other options.  I needn't have gone into quite so much detail if I'd read this message first *grin*.

Thanks,

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin and all,

 

There is an easier way to delete a comment.

  1. Use the next or previous comment commands in the  ribbon to get to the comment..
  2. Hit the applications key to activate the context menu.
  3. One of the options is delete.

Pranav




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Re: Deleting a Coment in Word

Quentin Christensen
 

Pranav,

Have you found NVDA to not read options in the context menu?  I just tried and I can get to the reply / delete comment options in the context menu fine with NVDA 2016.4.  The trick is that you need to be in the comment itself - NOT in the main part of the document.  Pressing A in Browse mode or using the elements list dialog takes you to where the comment is in the main body of text.  That's fine if you just want to read the comment.  You need to press alt+r then n to move to the next comment, to move to the actual comment itself if you want to edit / reply / delete.  It is also possible, but a little annoying, to delete a comment from within the text - you need to go to the end of the word with the comment and backspace the last character (you then need to retype the last character of the word).

Note, if what you actually want to do is get rid of all the comments, you can do that by pressing alt+r, then d, then o.

And if you don't care about the comments either way but need to print the document without comments, you can press control+p to print, then tab to "Print what" and down arrow to where it says "print markup" and space to uncheck that before printing.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:
<snip
The delete/edit/reply to comment  used to be in that context menu of older
versions of office. The context menu accessed by right clicking/applications key
is very sparse in new versions (2010 and later.) Now you have to jump through a
lot of hoops to accomplish things that could be done with a few keyboard
presses.
PL] Those options are still there in the context menu but  NVDA is not landing
at the right place. I am not   sure how Jaws worked with comments but I would be
on a comment and could invoke the context menu using jaws and delete and do
other things.

Pranav







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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: format factory

 

hi.
format factory is almost accessible and you can use it if you want
audio and video conversion.
maybe some other parts of it is accessible, but i dont know.
also, its translated into more than 60 languages, it has accessible
help file that you can use.
and also be careful that dont install extra offer during installation.
its better that you quit internet before installing and uncheck extra
offer which it wants to install.
also if you want to convert different formats into mp3, wave and ac3,
try this program.
its very great and the only program which i use.
because i convert all my formats into mp3 only!
its the most simple and best program in this regard.
its extremely simple and even does not have help file because of its simplicity!

http://www.dvdvideotool.com/1ClickExtractAudio.exe

On 2/11/17, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Well if its pure audio winlame at winlame.sf.net works.
Its old now I am unsure of its status but it handles most audio.
I gave up on free video stuff because of opencandy, I use the applian
suite which is mostly accessible well enough to use some of their stuff.
For youtube I use youtube dl-g thats the gui frontend to youtube dl and
that works.



On 11/02/2017 6:13 p.m., coffeekingms@... wrote:
hi all

I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when I'm
in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it seems
inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv seasons
from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to. I'm
still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open source
software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
often going through several circular links where finding the download
link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff getting
installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks

Kendell Clark






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Re: ndva

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Maureen,

As others have suggested, the User Guide has information on all the commands, although not necessarily a detailed explanation on each.  If you are coming from Jaws, there is a guide to transitioning here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/SwitchingFromJawsToNVDA

If you are interested in training materials which cover the full feature set of NVDA, we offer some official training modules in the NV Access shop: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Note that we do now have audio available for the Basic Training for NVDA module, as well as Braille and eText.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 1:45 AM, Maureen McKenzie via Groups.Io <rosymck@...> wrote:
I am new to NDVA, could someone please send me some learning instructions on how to use it

thank you

best wishes

Rosy




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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Christo de Klerk
 

Yes, I have a number of add-ons installed, but several are application specific, such as Winamp, Goldwave and other Vocalizer languages.

Regards

Christo

On 2017/02/11 9:10 AM, Andre Fisher wrote:
A quick question, do any of you guys have add-ons installed?

On 2/11/17, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
I can confirm that I also experience this sluggishness in Word, but it
isn't confined to Word 2016; I am experiencing it in Word 2013. I am
using the latest NVDA snapshot. At times it is so sluggish, I can almost
imagine that I am using Window-Eyes.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2017/02/11 7:44 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi david,

Glad to see someone else is experiencing this! I am also experiencing
exactly what you describe. However this occurs with documents with
tables especially. And it gradually gets worse and worse as I read or
arrow through the document. It gets to a point where I notice a 10-20
second delay between key presses. And it still continues to get worse.


On 2/11/2017 4:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are
similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With
other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as
expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret
or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press
an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an
unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off
Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling
graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state,
rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These
steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key,
there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time
I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent,
even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move
focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As
an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be
some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just
guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my
screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to
see if others who have experienced this might have found other
workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted
word, turned off
"Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different
sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still
with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the
answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille
feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY
because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If
you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it,
there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or
close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA
will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down.
In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste
grouping.






Re: format factory

 

Well if its pure audio winlame at winlame.sf.net works.
Its old now I am unsure of its status but it handles most audio.
I gave up on free video stuff because of opencandy, I use the applian suite which is mostly accessible well enough to use some of their stuff.
For youtube I use youtube dl-g thats the gui frontend to youtube dl and that works.

On 11/02/2017 6:13 p.m., coffeekingms@... wrote:
hi all

I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when I'm
in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it seems
inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv seasons
from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to. I'm
still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open source
software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
often going through several circular links where finding the download
link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff getting
installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks

Kendell Clark




Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

Hi Christo and others

I do not often work in MS Word, but frequently use Excel. I'm using Office 365, so effectively 2016 at this point. Navigating between cells became so slow that it was painful. Since I have a fast processor and enough RAM, I took the plunge to remove NVDA altogether while using Narrator. I also removed the settings from the appdata folder and made sure that all program files were deleted from program files (x86).

I re-installed the latest snapshot of NVDA and gradually installed all the add-ons I had before. Lo and behold, the sluggishness is gone, hopefully for good.

Since nothing else on my system has changed, I believe a clean install of NVDA brought about an improvement.

I'm not recommending that everyone jumps in and do the same, I'm merely saying this worked for me.

Jacques

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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Saturday, 11 February 2017 08:51
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

I can confirm that I also experience this sluggishness in Word, but it isn't confined to Word 2016; I am experiencing it in Word 2013. I am using the latest NVDA snapshot. At times it is so sluggish, I can almost imagine that I am using Window-Eyes.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2017/02/11 7:44 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi david,

Glad to see someone else is experiencing this! I am also experiencing
exactly what you describe. However this occurs with documents with
tables especially. And it gradually gets worse and worse as I read or
arrow through the document. It gets to a point where I notice a 10-20
second delay between key presses. And it still continues to get worse.


On 2/11/2017 4:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues
are similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With
other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as
expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the
caret or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I
press an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It
is not an unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying.
Turning off Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help.
Disabling graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state,
rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode.
These steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab
key, there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from
the time I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is
silent, even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something
to move focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the
dialog. As an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could
be some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are
just guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is
my screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences
and to see if others who have experienced this might have found other
workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted
word, turned off "Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different
sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still
with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the
answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille
feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY
because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If
you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it,
there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or
close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA
will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down.
In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste
grouping.






Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Andre Fisher
 

A quick question, do any of you guys have add-ons installed?

On 2/11/17, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
I can confirm that I also experience this sluggishness in Word, but it
isn't confined to Word 2016; I am experiencing it in Word 2013. I am
using the latest NVDA snapshot. At times it is so sluggish, I can almost
imagine that I am using Window-Eyes.

Kind regards

Christo


On 2017/02/11 7:44 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi david,

Glad to see someone else is experiencing this! I am also experiencing
exactly what you describe. However this occurs with documents with
tables especially. And it gradually gets worse and worse as I read or
arrow through the document. It gets to a point where I notice a 10-20
second delay between key presses. And it still continues to get worse.


On 2/11/2017 4:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are
similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With
other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as
expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret
or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press
an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an
unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off
Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling
graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state,
rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These
steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key,
there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time
I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent,
even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move
focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As
an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be
some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just
guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my
screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to
see if others who have experienced this might have found other
workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted
word, turned off
"Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different
sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still
with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the
answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille
feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY
because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If
you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it,
there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or
close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA
will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down.
In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste
grouping.









Re: NVDA and Excel

 

Hi,

The limitation exists in the way NVDA retrieves location information for text.

Technical: an NVDA object can include an attribute named “locationText”. This text is the one NVDA+Numpad Delete will be told to look up, and for most cases, it’ll return where the control is located on screen in percentages. Some objects, such as Excel, PowerPoint objects (such as shapes) have their own location text retrieval routine. In case of Excel, locationText attribute returns the sheet number and cell coordinates, all using COM (Component Object Model) exposed by Excel.

According to the source code behind NVDA+Numpad Delete (object location) command, you can press this command to retrieve location text, or where the review cursor is located, depending on where you are. Although it might be possible to let you press this more than once to obtain specific info, not all controls will support this, and we (developers) run into a problem of exposing what and depth. For certain controls, you cannot really force it to show you detailed info (terminal window text, for example).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

What limitations?

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Hi all,

Due to technical limitations, you’ll not be able to press NVDA+Delete twice to hear detailed info at this time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 2:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

You have already suggested an ideal candidate.  Could a key combination be created that executed the same speech event as that executed when focus is gained.  This reads out the Workbook name, Sheet name and current cell coordinates.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 9 February 2017 22:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Thanks Jim,

 

Interesting idea.  It probably comes down to how different users use Excel and this feature.  NVDA does announce the cell coordinates as you move around a worksheet, and also when Excel gets focus to begin with (eg after pressing alt+tab).  The sheet name however, is only read when you move between sheets or move to Excel, so it may be arguable that wanting to confirm the current sheet name is a more common need than wanting to confirm the current sheet coordinates.

 

Open to other thoughts on this from anyone?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Jim Pipczak <jim.pipczak@...> wrote:

Hi Q,

 

Thanks. I would suggest a slight change to the new feature NVDA+numpad delete. A single press tells you the cell coordinates, a double press gives you cell coordinates and sheet name.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2017 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Thanks re the subject Jim.

 

Regarding the question, NVDA+tab to read the item with focus does read the coordinates, although it reads the contents first.  Thinking on it, that's possibly a bug - it should read the location first, then the contents of the item, however, there is an upcoming solution: NVDA+numpad delete (laptop layout is NVDA+delete) will, from 2017.1 (it's in the current master build if you want to try it now), announce the current worksheet name and cell coordinates.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Jim Pipczak <jim.pipczak@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I changed the subject to reflect the nature of the questions. Something I should have done in the first place.

 

Yes 16.4.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi Jim,

Which version of NVDA do you have? If you are using 2016.4, this may explain why you’re not getting what you are looking for.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Pipczak
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 8:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi all,

 

Embarrassingly,  I can’t find the keystroke to give cell coordinates in Excel. I don’t want the content just the cell coordinates.

 

Many thanks,

Jim.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2017 4:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi everyone,

 

NV Access has a new blog called "In-Process".  We will keep you up to date with the week to week happenings from the organisation, staff and of course, NVDA.

 

The first post of In-Process is online now: http://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

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Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
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Access Technology Technical Lead
Service Innovation
346 Macaulay Rd (cnr Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031
T: 03 8378 1243 I: 344243 www.visionaustralia.org

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Christo de Klerk
 

I can confirm that I also experience this sluggishness in Word, but it isn't confined to Word 2016; I am experiencing it in Word 2013. I am using the latest NVDA snapshot. At times it is so sluggish, I can almost imagine that I am using Window-Eyes.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2017/02/11 7:44 AM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
hi david,

Glad to see someone else is experiencing this! I am also experiencing exactly what you describe. However this occurs with documents with tables especially. And it gradually gets worse and worse as I read or arrow through the document. It gets to a point where I notice a 10-20 second delay between key presses. And it still continues to get worse.


On 2/11/2017 4:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are
similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With
other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as
expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret
or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press
an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an
unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off
Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling
graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state,
rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These
steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key,
there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time
I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent,
even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move
focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As
an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be
some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just
guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my
screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to
see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off
"Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.





Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

Forgot to mention that as well. There is a delay in typing sometimes.

On 2/11/2017 5:20 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Hi, Joseph.

In my case, this issue does not occur with specific documents. In fact,
it occurs when I'm writing in a blank document.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 8:24 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi David and others,
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic Word document attached? I'd like to test the docs against latest development builds I have.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state, rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key, there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent, even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off "Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.







Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

enes sarıbaş
 

hi david,

Glad to see someone else is experiencing this! I am also experiencing exactly what you describe. However this occurs with documents with tables especially. And it gradually gets worse and worse as I read or arrow through the document. It gets to a point where I notice a 10-20 second delay between key presses. And it still continues to get worse.

On 2/11/2017 4:18 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are
similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With
other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as
expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret
or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press
an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an
unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off
Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling
graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state,
rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These
steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key,
there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time
I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent,
even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move
focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As
an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be
some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just
guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my
screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to
see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off
"Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.



Re: Deleting a Comment in Word

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Quentin and all,

 

There is an easier way to delete a comment.

  1. Use the next or previous comment commands in the  ribbon to get to the comment..
  2. Hit the applications key to activate the context menu.
  3. One of the options is delete.

Pranav


Re: Deleting a Coment in Word

Pranav Lal
 

<snip
The delete/edit/reply to comment used to be in that context menu of older
versions of office. The context menu accessed by right clicking/applications key
is very sparse in new versions (2010 and later.) Now you have to jump through a
lot of hoops to accomplish things that could be done with a few keyboard
presses.
PL] Those options are still there in the context menu but NVDA is not landing
at the right place. I am not sure how Jaws worked with comments but I would be
on a comment and could invoke the context menu using jaws and delete and do
other things.

Pranav


Re: NVDA and Excel

Pranav Lal
 

Jim,


I could not agree more.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Pipczak
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 2:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Hi Q,

 

Thanks. I would suggest a slight change to the new feature NVDA+numpad delete. A single press tells you the cell coordinates, a double press gives you cell coordinates and sheet name.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2017 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Thanks re the subject Jim.

 

Regarding the question, NVDA+tab to read the item with focus does read the coordinates, although it reads the contents first.  Thinking on it, that's possibly a bug - it should read the location first, then the contents of the item, however, there is an upcoming solution: NVDA+numpad delete (laptop layout is NVDA+delete) will, from 2017.1 (it's in the current master build if you want to try it now), announce the current worksheet name and cell coordinates.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Jim Pipczak <jim.pipczak@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I changed the subject to reflect the nature of the questions. Something I should have done in the first place.

 

Yes 16.4.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi Jim,

Which version of NVDA do you have? If you are using 2016.4, this may explain why you’re not getting what you are looking for.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Pipczak
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 8:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi all,

 

Embarrassingly,  I can’t find the keystroke to give cell coordinates in Excel. I don’t want the content just the cell coordinates.

 

Many thanks,

Jim.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2017 4:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi everyone,

 

NV Access has a new blog called "In-Process".  We will keep you up to date with the week to week happenings from the organisation, staff and of course, NVDA.

 

The first post of In-Process is online now: http://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 

 

Jim Pipczak
Access Technology Technical Lead
Service Innovation
346 Macaulay Rd (cnr Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031
T: 03 8378 1243 I: 344243 www.visionaustralia.org

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: NVDA and Excel

Pranav Lal
 

Q,

 

I do need to see cell coordinates more frequently than sheet names. I like Jim’s idea. The thing with cell coordinates is that I may need to see them before entering a formula etc.

 

Pranav


Re: NVDA and Excel

Pranav Lal
 

What limitations?

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Hi all,

Due to technical limitations, you’ll not be able to press NVDA+Delete twice to hear detailed info at this time.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 2:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

You have already suggested an ideal candidate.  Could a key combination be created that executed the same speech event as that executed when focus is gained.  This reads out the Workbook name, Sheet name and current cell coordinates.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 9 February 2017 22:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Thanks Jim,

 

Interesting idea.  It probably comes down to how different users use Excel and this feature.  NVDA does announce the cell coordinates as you move around a worksheet, and also when Excel gets focus to begin with (eg after pressing alt+tab).  The sheet name however, is only read when you move between sheets or move to Excel, so it may be arguable that wanting to confirm the current sheet name is a more common need than wanting to confirm the current sheet coordinates.

 

Open to other thoughts on this from anyone?

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Jim Pipczak <jim.pipczak@...> wrote:

Hi Q,

 

Thanks. I would suggest a slight change to the new feature NVDA+numpad delete. A single press tells you the cell coordinates, a double press gives you cell coordinates and sheet name.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, 8 February 2017 4:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Excel

 

Thanks re the subject Jim.

 

Regarding the question, NVDA+tab to read the item with focus does read the coordinates, although it reads the contents first.  Thinking on it, that's possibly a bug - it should read the location first, then the contents of the item, however, there is an upcoming solution: NVDA+numpad delete (laptop layout is NVDA+delete) will, from 2017.1 (it's in the current master build if you want to try it now), announce the current worksheet name and cell coordinates.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Jim Pipczak <jim.pipczak@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I changed the subject to reflect the nature of the questions. Something I should have done in the first place.

 

Yes 16.4.

 

Thanks,

Jim.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2017 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi Jim,

Which version of NVDA do you have? If you are using 2016.4, this may explain why you’re not getting what you are looking for.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim Pipczak
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 8:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi all,

 

Embarrassingly,  I can’t find the keystroke to give cell coordinates in Excel. I don’t want the content just the cell coordinates.

 

Many thanks,

Jim.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, 20 January 2017 4:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Keep up with NV Access through "In-Process", our new blog

 

Hi everyone,

 

NV Access has a new blog called "In-Process".  We will keep you up to date with the week to week happenings from the organisation, staff and of course, NVDA.

 

The first post of In-Process is online now: http://www.nvaccess.org/category/in-process/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 

 

Jim Pipczak
Access Technology Technical Lead
Service Innovation
346 Macaulay Rd (cnr Stubbs St) Kensington VIC 3031
T: 03 8378 1243 I: 344243 www.visionaustralia.org

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


format factory

coffeekingms@hotmail.com
 

hi all

I've been looking for a good free as in beer audio and video converter
similar to soundconverter on linux to handle format conversions when I'm
in windows. I've come across format factory, and I've installed it.
Skipping past the junkware installations which I personally loathe, I
got it installed. But I can't seem to figure out how to use it, it seems
inaccessible with NVDA. Is there an alternative I can use that's more
accessible? The one thing I need it to be able to do is convert to and
from opus files, as well as strip the audio out of video files. Batch
conversions would be nice as well, since I routinely download tv seasons
from blind mice, and I don't care for mp3 so convert them to a smaller
and better sounding format, so being able to convert an entire folder
would be nice. My only other caveat is that I refuse to pay for
software. I don't want to start any fights on hear but the thought of
paying for software just doesn't sit well with me. Donating is
completely fine, but having to pay for software I've gotten used to
having for free is just, I won't do it unless I absolutely have to. I'm
still a newbie in windows land, having gotten used to the way linux
installs software, and also to an abundance of good quality open source
software, so I'm not used to the way windows software is downloaded,
often going through several circular links where finding the download
link is difficult, and then having to watch out for extra stuff getting
installed along with your program. I talk too much. If format factory
isn't accessible, is there software you guys would recommend instead?
Software to download videos from youtube would also be nice, since
youtube viewer doesn't seem to exist for windows. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks

Kendell Clark


Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Dan Thompson
 

I also have that issue of slow speech and even sometimes studdering.
Are there some solutions?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Hi, Joseph.

In my case, this issue does not occur with specific documents. In fact, it occurs when I'm writing in a blank document.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 8:24 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi David and others,
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic Word document attached? I'd like to test the docs against latest development builds I have.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state, rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key, there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent, even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off "Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.