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Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Dan Thompson
 

I also have that issue of slow speech and even sometimes studdering.
Are there some solutions?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Hi, Joseph.

In my case, this issue does not occur with specific documents. In fact, it occurs when I'm writing in a blank document.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 8:24 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi David and others,
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic Word document attached? I'd like to test the docs against latest development builds I have.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state, rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key, there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent, even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off "Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.








Re: Accessable UML Tool

Arthur BREUNEVAL
 

Hello,
plantuml.jar is a command-line tool.
You need to invoke it via a terminal with:
java -jar plantuml.jar yourUMLDescriptionFile.txt

You need to install GraphViz too, I think all it's explained on the PlantUML website.
But if you don't want to search for the moment, there is a simple kind of thing you can do to test PlantUML.
Look at the homepage of the site, there is a link bringing you to the online PlantUML server. You will be able to paste / write your diagram here, then click submit, and the online server will parse the description for you. Then, you will be able to download a PNG representing your diagram.
I personally use this solution because I haven't found the time to investigate GraphViz installation and Co, and I needed a quick solution working immediately.

Regards,



Arthur BREUNEVAL
Sent with Mozilla Thunderbird.
Le 10/02/2017 à 21:57, Martin O'Sullivan a écrit :

Hi

Thank you for the link, however I could not get it to work when I downloaded the file plantuml.jar and ran it nothing happened no error message just a small logo for a few seconds, and then that went away.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

 




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On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Arthur BREUNEVAL via Groups.Io <arthur.breuneval@...> wrote:
Hello Martin,
I personally use PlantUML, which is a simple language for describbing UML diagrams with text.
You can investigate it at plantuml.com.
It is very simple to learn and very intuitive.
Anyway I don't know any program with a GUI allowing to build UML diagrams which is fully accessible.

Hope this help.

Best regards,


Arthur BREUNEVAL
Sent with Mozilla Thunderbird.
Le 09/02/2017 à 16:07, Martin O'Sullivan a écrit :

I have started a course in object orientated programming, as part of that course; I have to produce UML diagrams.  Is there an UML tool; which works with NVDA?

If there is no accessible way of interacting with any UML tool, is there a recognised alternative which can be used by vision impaired software developers?

Unified Modeling language (UML) is a standardized modeling language enabling developers to specify, visualize, construct and document artifacts of a software system. Thus, UML makes these artifacts scalable, secure and robust in execution. UML is an important aspect involved in object-oriented software development.    





Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

 

Hi,
I cannot reproduce this on my computer running latest next and 2016.4.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 6:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Hi, Joseph.

In my case, this issue does not occur with specific documents. In fact, it occurs when I'm writing in a blank document.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 8:24 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi David and others,
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic Word document attached? I'd like to test the docs against latest development builds I have.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state, rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key, there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent, even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off "Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.








Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Joseph.

In my case, this issue does not occur with specific documents. In fact,
it occurs when I'm writing in a blank document.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 8:24 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi David and others,
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic Word document attached? I'd like to test the docs against latest development builds I have.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state, rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key, there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent, even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off "Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.








Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

kelby carlson
 

I have also had this problem, but it only occurred in one specific
document (which I can't distribute for confidentiality reasons.)

On 2/10/17, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hi,
Regarding braille, this is a known issue that NV Access and other folks are
researching. I'd like to see if this is resolved in latest development
builds (the code that's destined for 2017.1).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 5:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic
Word document attached?

For me, it doesn't matter which document is used. And the weird behavior in
the options dialog is not document specific. Just open a document--any
document--with braille active and use carret navigation. Specifically, try
left and right arrow, and control left and right arrow. There will be a
noticeable pause. Turn off braille and the pause goes mostly away.







Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

 

Hi,
Regarding braille, this is a known issue that NV Access and other folks are
researching. I'd like to see if this is resolved in latest development
builds (the code that's destined for 2017.1).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rob
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 5:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic
Word document attached?

For me, it doesn't matter which document is used. And the weird behavior in
the options dialog is not document specific. Just open a document--any
document--with braille active and use carret navigation. Specifically, try
left and right arrow, and control left and right arrow. There will be a
noticeable pause. Turn off braille and the pause goes mostly away.


Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Rob
 

Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic Word document attached?
For me, it doesn't matter which document is used. And the weird behavior in the options dialog is not document specific. Just open a document--any document--with braille active and use carret navigation. Specifically, try left and right arrow, and control left and right arrow. There will be a noticeable pause. Turn off braille and the pause goes mostly away.


Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

 

Hi David and others,
Can people affected by this bug write to me offlist, with a problematic Word document attached? I'd like to test the docs against latest development builds I have.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 5:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state, rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key, there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent, even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and
speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off "Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.



Re: Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

David Goldfield
 

I have also noticed odd behavior with NVDA and Word 2016. My issues are
similar to yours in some ways but different in others.

I am not a Braille display owner and so I'm only using speech.
Specifically, I'm using NVDA 2016.4 on a Windows 10 Pro machine. With
other editors, such as Jarte, the responsiveness with NVDA behaves as
expected, with no unusual pause when using arrow keys to move the caret
or cursor.

With Word 2016, there is a more noticeable delay from the time I press
an arrow key until the time I hear the character announced. It is not an
unreasonable delay but is just noticeable to be annoying. Turning off
Word's visual features, such as animation, did not help. Disabling
graphics acceleration, or words to that effect, made no difference.
Oddly, what seems to help is if I set the window to a restored state,
rather than a maximized state, and putting Word into draft mode. These
steps seem to help with performance.

When I am navigating the Word options dialog via pressing the tab key,
there are times when I notice a pause of around 2 seconds from the time
I press the tab key until the next option in the dialog is announced.

Finally, when I press ctrl-S to invoke the Save dialog, NVDA is silent,
even though the save dialog now has focus. If I do something to move
focus away from and then back to the dialog, NVDA reads the dialog. As
an example, if I press the alt key twice, NVDA then behaves normally.
This does not occur with other computers I have used and so it could be
some weirdness with my video card or graphics card but these are just
guesses. I am not writing to complain or to knock NVDA, as it is my
screen reader of choice, but just wanted to share my experiences and to
see if others who have experienced this might have found other workarounds.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 6:03 PM, Rob wrote:
Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off
"Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.



Re: optimization tools (sorry if this is a repeat)

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Ame.

I used to be heavily into optimization tools and, from the ones I tried,
Ccleaner was the most accessible. However, it is usually the case that
you will not notice much in the way of a performance boost after running
them. True, they can clear off some space by deleting temp files but,
usually, this won't do much to improve your PC's performance. In fact,
some of these tools could, in theory, cause a bit of a slowdown if they
delete your cache, as having this on your hard drive can make Web
browsing a bit faster. I would also steer clear of any tool, including
Ccleaner, when it comes to registry cleaning. Purging your registry of
unneeded or orphan keys will do nothing to speed up your system and, in
fact, could make things worse. I consider myself a fairly savvy Windows
user and I am quite content to use the disk cleanup tools provided by
Microsoft.

David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 2/10/2017 2:19 PM, Ame wrote:
My Win 10 PC. CCleaner's okay but I was curious to see if there was
something better. I can run a scan and I don't notice a whole lot of
difference. They were really singing the praises of Iolo System
Mechanic.



Re: Symbol pronunciation dictionary

ChrisLeo
 

Hi, I try to reply point to point.
"1. Different labels for the same symbol
In the list there are duplicated symbols, but that have additional labels such as sentence-ending, phrase-ending etc. What is the difference between them and how do they relate to NVDA processing them?"

The same sign can appear in different cases. For example the dot in the end of sentence is used in TTS to give an intonation to the reading, but you can find the dot in other scenarios. For example, in this string: "goldwave.4.1.nvda-addon".

"2. Punctuation level setting
Not sure how this works. Is that something to do with when the symbol is read out as a character and when it is read as a linguistic feature? If so, what’s the character option for?"

You can set a base livel for each character, then set the verbosity according to the settings that you gave. The option character is used for space and for similar characters.

"3. Send to synth setting
Again, not sure how this works. My understanding is that all text is sent to the synth to be spoken. The only possible explanation I can think of is that when reading as a character NVDA would need to convert that into a word. But then wouldn’t you want it read as a word in that case? Struggling to tell the two options apart."

Yes, you've right, the text is always sent to the synthesizer, but the meaning is different.
NVDA allows to preserve the behavior of the synthesizer when there are some signs or symbols.
As already said in point 1, the synthesizer recognizes the sentences by the punctuation and it gives different intonation depending on the cases, question, exclamation etc...
For example, eSpeak.ng puts a pause when there are parens, Eloquence synthesizer gives a diferent intonation before of left and right paren.
You can choose if you want to preserve the native behavior of the synthesizer or not.

"4. Multichar expressions
The document mentions nothing to do with multicharacter symbols. Such symbols are common in programming (<=, >=, :: etc). Can it process these?"

I think you can add combined characters in personal symbols setting, but in programming the most used symbols are ASCII characters... How should be processed otherwise?

Cheers,


Chris.

Damien Sykes-Lindley, 10/02/2017 20:09:

Hi,
I’m slightly confused as to how this feature works. There is brief documentation in the user guide but, it seems, not enough to cover all aspects.

1. Different labels for the same symbol
In the list there are duplicated symbols, but that have additional labels such as sentence-ending, phrase-ending etc. What is the difference between them and how do they relate to NVDA processing them?

2. Punctuation level setting
Not sure how this works. Is that something to do with when the symbol is read out as a character and when it is read as a linguistic feature? If so, what’s the character option for?

3. Send to synth setting
Again, not sure how this works. My understanding is that all text is sent to the synth to be spoken. The only possible explanation I can think of is that when reading as a character NVDA would need to convert that into a word. But then wouldn’t you want it read as a word in that case? Struggling to tell the two options apart.

4. Multichar expressions
The document mentions nothing to do with multicharacter symbols. Such symbols are common in programming (<=, >=, :: etc). Can it process these?
Cheers.
Damien.


Slow MS Word Navigation; Odd Options behavior

Rob
 

Windows 7 x64 word 2016, NVDA 2016.4.
There was an extremely aggravating delay between arrow presses and speech while navigating in word. I rebooted the system, restarted word, turned off
"Provide Feedback with Annimations"
, and restarted NVDA. I loaded different documents of different sizes and then I started a blank document with only one line. Still with the slow response while navigating with arrows.
Finally I hit on the idea to turn off braille. Bingo--that was the answer. Navigation speeded up, but of course now I have no braille feedback.
I am using the Handy Tech driver. I have not tested with BRLTTY because I do not have it installed here.
Another odd behavior that happens is in the Word Options dialog. If you tab to an up down edit box and then tab or shift+tab out of it, there is this huge pause, and then the dialog reads from the top or close to it.
Try:
1. Open Word optons, alt+f t
2. Arrow Down to Advanced
3. Tab until you hear
"Show this number of recent Documents"
and then hit tab again. There will be a big delay and then NNVDA will start reading the dialog from the top of visible portion down. In my case, it started reading everything from the copy and paste grouping.


Re: Accessable UML Tool

Martin O'Sullivan
 

Hi

Thank you for the link, however I could not get it to work when I downloaded the file plantuml.jar and ran it nothing happened no error message just a small logo for a few seconds, and then that went away.

 

Any ideas?

 

 

 




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On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Arthur BREUNEVAL via Groups.Io <arthur.breuneval@...> wrote:
Hello Martin,
I personally use PlantUML, which is a simple language for describbing UML diagrams with text.
You can investigate it at plantuml.com.
It is very simple to learn and very intuitive.
Anyway I don't know any program with a GUI allowing to build UML diagrams which is fully accessible.

Hope this help.

Best regards,


Arthur BREUNEVAL
Sent with Mozilla Thunderbird.
Le 09/02/2017 à 16:07, Martin O'Sullivan a écrit :

I have started a course in object orientated programming, as part of that course; I have to produce UML diagrams.  Is there an UML tool; which works with NVDA?

If there is no accessible way of interacting with any UML tool, is there a recognised alternative which can be used by vision impaired software developers?

Unified Modeling language (UML) is a standardized modeling language enabling developers to specify, visualize, construct and document artifacts of a software system. Thus, UML makes these artifacts scalable, secure and robust in execution. UML is an important aspect involved in object-oriented software development.    




Re: NVDA Latest And Language Announcement

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Yah, I get that everytime I boot my machine, when it first gets to the desktop, it always says english us.  I don't get this at any other time, so I just ignore it, but if it's happening more often than that, I haven't a clue what's triggering it, but then again, I rarely return to my desktop during normal computer usage, as I absolutely hate having things on my desktop.  I do everything via hotkeys, or command line execution.



On 2/10/2017 2:47 AM, Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi friends,

 

Has anyone noticed NVDA announcing a language message every now and then, sometimes when you Windows m back to the desktop?

It says something like language English UK or something.

I Will try to re-create it and report back with the exact message.

 



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Re: optimization tools (sorry if this is a repeat)

Ame
 

My Win 10 PC. CCleaner's okay but I was curious to see if there was something better. I can run a scan and I don't notice a whole lot of difference. They were really singing the praises of Iolo System Mechanic.


Symbol pronunciation dictionary

Damien Garwood
 

Hi,
I’m slightly confused as to how this feature works. There is brief documentation in the user guide but, it seems, not enough to cover all aspects.
 
1. Different labels for the same symbol
In the list there are duplicated symbols, but that have additional labels such as sentence-ending, phrase-ending etc. What is the difference between them and how do they relate to NVDA processing them?
 
2. Punctuation level setting
Not sure how this works. Is that something to do with when the symbol is read out as a character and when it is read as a linguistic feature? If so, what’s the character option for?
 
3. Send to synth setting
Again, not sure how this works. My understanding is that all text is sent to the synth to be spoken. The only possible explanation I can think of is that when reading as a character NVDA would need to convert that into a word. But then wouldn’t you want it read as a word in that case? Struggling to tell the two options apart.
 
4. Multichar expressions
The document mentions nothing to do with multicharacter symbols. Such symbols are common in programming (<=, >=, :: etc). Can it process these?
Cheers.
Damien.


Re: optimization tools (sorry if this is a repeat)

Antony Stone
 

What are you trying to optimise?

Antony.

On Friday 10 Feb 2017 at 18:48, Ame wrote:

Hello all!

I just attempted to send a message and I don’t think it went anywhere and I
didn’t see it in my sent folder. I’m curious about optimization software,
preferably free. I googled it and found a site called tech radar. I
don’t know the actual web address. They had compiled a list of the
optimization programs they’d found. At the very top of the list was
something called Iolo System Mechanic. CCleaner (I have it on my
computer), was their third favorite. Does anybody know anything about
Iolo System Mechanic? Does it work for people like us?

Thanks so much. Have a great day!
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optimization tools (sorry if this is a repeat)

Ame
 

Hello all!
 
I just attempted to send a message and I don’t think it went anywhere and I didn’t see it in my sent folder.  I’m curious about optimization software, preferably free.  I googled it and found a site called tech radar.  I don’t know the actual web address.  They had compiled a list of the optimization programs they’d found.  At the very top of the list was something called Iolo System Mechanic.  CCleaner (I have it on my computer), was their third favorite.  Does anybody know anything about Iolo System Mechanic?  Does it work for people like us?
 
Thanks so much.  Have a great day!


Re: ndva

Martin O'Sullivan
 

Hi Rosy


You can start here.

Learn NVDA: A Free Screen Reader for Windows

http://www.afb.org/info/living-with-vision-loss/using-technology/assistive-technology-videos/learn-nvda/1234

The user guide can be found by  holding down the "insert" key and pressing the letter "n"

this will bring up the following page in your web browser file:///C:/Program%20Files%20%28x86%29/NVDA/documentation/en/userGuide.html

You can also get to this user guide  through windows explorer, on a windows 7 computer,

Program Files (x86)

NVDA

documentation

en


and select any of the files in there.  I would start off with keyCommands.html


Please let me know if this is helpful.  I have put all the NVDA key commands  at the bottom of this message.    





NVDA 2016.4 Commands Quick Reference


Getting started with NVDA


NVDA Touch Gestures


Touch Modes


To toggle touch modes, perform a 3-finger tap.


Basic NVDA commands


Name Desktop key Laptop key Touch Description
Stop speech Control control 2-finger tap Instantly stops speaking
Pause Speech shift shift none Instantly pauses speech. Pressing it again will continue speaking where it left off (if pausing is supported by the current synthesizer)
NVDA Menu NVDA+n NVDA+n 2-finger double tap Pops up the NVDA menu to allow you to access preferences, tools, help, etc.
Toggle Speech Mode NVDA+s NVDA+s none Toggles speech mode between speech, beeps and off.
Toggle Input Help Mode NVDA+1 NVDA+1 none Pressing any key in this mode will report the key, and the description of any NVDA command associated with it
Quit NVDA NVDA+q NVDA+q none Exits NVDA
Pass next key through NVDA+f2 NVDA+f2 none Tells NVDA to pass the next key press straight through to the active application, even if it is normally treeted as an NVDA key command
Toggle application sleep mode on and off NVDA+shift+s NVDA+shift+z none sleep mode disables all NVDA commands and speech/braille output for the current application. This is most useful in applications that provide their own speech or screen reading features. Press this command again to disable self voicing mode.


Reporting System Information


Name key Description
Report date/time NVDA+f12 Pressing once reports the current time, pressing twice reports the date
Report battery status NVDA+shift+b Reports the battery status i.e. whether AC power is in use or the current charge percentage.
Report clipboard text NVDA+c Reports the Text in the clipboard if there is any.


Navigating with NVDA


Navigating with the System Focus


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Report current focus NVDA+tab NVDA+tab announces the current object or control that has the System focus. Pressing twice will spell the information
Report title NVDA+t NVDA+t Reports the title of the currently active window. Pressing twice will spell the information. Pressing three times will copy it to the clipboard
Read active window NVDA+b NVDA+b reads all the controls in the currently active window (useful for dialogs)
Report Status Bar NVDA+end NVDA+shift+end Reports the Status Bar if NVDA finds one. It also moves the navigator object to this location. Pressing twice will spell the information


Navigating with the System Caret


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Say all NVDA+downArrow NVDA+a Starts reading from the current position of the system caret, moving it along as it goes
Read current line NVDA+upArrow NVDA+l Reads the line where the system caret is currently situated. Pressing twice spells the line.
Read current text selection NVDA+Shift+upArrow NVDA+shift+s Reads any currently selected text
Next sentence alt+downArrow alt+downArrow Moves the caret to the next sentence and announces it. (only supported in Microsoft Word and Outlook)
Previous sentence alt+upArrow alt+upArrow Moves the caret to the previous sentence and announces it. (only supported in Microsoft Word and Outlook)


When within a table, the following key commands are also available:


Name Key Description
Move to previous column control+alt+leftArrow Moves the system caret to the previous column (staying in the same row)
Move to next column control+alt+rightArrow Moves the system caret to the next column (staying in the same row)
Move to previous row control+alt+upArrow Moves the system caret to the previous row (staying in the same column)
Move to next row control+alt+downArrow Moves the system caret to the next row (staying in the same column)


Object Navigation


Name Desktop key Laptop key Touch Description
Report current object NVDA+numpad5 NVDA+shift+o none Reports the current navigator object. Pressing twice spells the information, and pressing 3 times copies this object's name and value to the clipboard.
Move to containing object NVDA+numpad8 NVDA+shift+upArrow flick up (object mode) Moves to the object containing the current navigator object
Move to previous object NVDA+numpad4 NVDA+shift+leftArrow flick left (object mode) Moves to the object before the current navigator object
Move to next object NVDA+numpad6 NVDA+shift+rightArrow flick right (object mode) Moves to the object after the current navigator object
Move to first contained object NVDA+numpad2 NVDA+shift+downArrow flick down (object mode) Moves to the first object contained by the current navigator object
Move to focus object NVDA+numpadMinus NVDA+backspace none Moves to the object that currently has the system focus, and also places the review cursor at the position of the System caret, if it is showing
Activate current navigator object NVDA+numpadEnter NVDA+enter double tap Activates the current navigator object (similar to clicking with the mouse or pressing space when it has the system focus)
Move System focus or caret to current review position NVDA+shift+numpadMinus NVDA+shift+backspace none pressed once Moves the System focus to the current navigator object, pressed twice moves the system caret to the position of the review cursor
Report review cursor location NVDA+numpadDelete NVDA+delete none Reports information about the location of the text or object at the review cursor. For example, this might include the percentage through the document, the distance from the edge of the page or the exact screen position. Pressing twice may provide further detail.


Reviewing Text


Name Desktop key Laptop key Touch Description
Move to top line in review shift+numpad7 NVDA+control+home none Moves the review cursor to the top line of the text
Move to previous line in review numpad7 NVDA+upArrow flick up (text mode) Moves the review cursor to the previous line of text
Report current line in review numpad8 NVDA+shift+. none Announces the current line of text where the review cursor is positioned. Pressing twice spells the line. Pressing three times spells the line using character descriptions.
Move to next line in review numpad9 NVDA+downArrow flick down (text mode) Move the review cursor to the next line of text
Move to bottom line in review shift+numpad9 NVDA+control+end none Moves the review cursor to the bottom line of text
Move to previous word in review numpad4 NVDA+control+leftArrow 2-finger flick left (text mode) Moves the review cursor to the previous word in the text
Report current word in review numpad5 NVDA+control+. none Announces the current word in the text where the review cursor is positioned. Pressing twice spells the word. Pressing three times spells the word using character descriptions.
Move to next word in review numpad6 NVDA+control+rightArrow 2-finger flick right (text mode) Move the review cursor to the next word in the text
Move to start of line in review shift+numpad1 NVDA+home none Moves the review cursor to the start of the current line in the text
Move to previous character in review numpad1 NVDA+leftArrow flick left (text mode) Moves the review cursor to the previous character on the current line in the text
Report current character in review numpad2 NVDA+. none Announces the current character on the line of text where the review cursor is positioned. Pressing twice reports a description or example of that character. Pressing three times reports the numeric value of the character in decimal and hexadecimal.
Move to next character in review numpad3 NVDA+rightArrow flick right (text mode) Move the review cursor to the next character on the current line of text
Move to end of line in review shift+numpad3 NVDA+end none Moves the review cursor to the end of the current line of text
Say all with review numpadPlus NVDA+shift+a 3-finger flick down (text mode) Reads from the current position of the review cursor, moving it as it goes
Select then Copy from review cursor NVDA+f9 NVDA+f9 none Starts the select then copy process from the current position of the review cursor. The actual action is not performed until you tell NVDA where the end of the text range is
Select then Copy to review cursor NVDA+f10 NVDA+f10 none On the first press, text is selected from the position previously set start marker up to and including the review cursor's current position. After pressing this key a second time, the text will be copied to the Windows clipboard
Report text formatting NVDA+f NVDA+f none Reports the formatting of the text where the review cursor is currently situated. Pressing twice shows the information in browse mode


Review Modes


Name Desktop key Laptop key Touch Description
switch to next review mode NVDA+numpad7 NVDA+pageUp 2-finger flick up switches to the next available review mode
switch to previous review mode NVDA+numpad1 NVDA+pageDown 2-finger flick down switches to the previous available review mode


Navigating with the Mouse


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Left mouse button click numpadDivide NVDA+[ clicks the left mouse button once. The common double click can be performed by pressing this key twice in quick succession
Left mouse button lock shift+numpadDivide NVDA+control+[ Locks the left mouse button down. Press again to release it. To drag the mouse, press this key to lock the left button down and then move the mouse either physically or use one of the other mouse routing commands
Right mouse click numpadMultiply NVDA+] Clicks the right mouse button once.
Right mouse button lock shift+numpadMultiply NVDA+control+] Locks the right mouse button down. Press again to release it. To drag the mouse, press this key to lock the right button down and then move the mouse either physically or use one of the other mouse routing commands
Move mouse to current navigator object NVDA+numpadDivide NVDA+shift+m Moves the mouse to the location of the current navigator object and review cursor
Navigate to the object under the mouse NVDA+numpadMultiply NVDA+shift+n Set the navigator object to the object located at the position of the mouse


Browse Mode


Name Key Description
Toggle browse/focus modes NVDA+space Toggles between focus mode and browse mode
Exit focus mode escape switches back to browse mode if focus mode was previously switched to automatically
Refresh browse mode document NVDA+f5 Reloads the current document content (useful if certain content seems to be missing from the document. Not available in Microsoft Word and Outlook.)
Find NVDA+control+f Pops up a dialog in which you can type some text to find in the current document
Find next NVDA+f3 Finds the next occurrence of the text in the document that you previously searched for
Find previous NVDA+shift+f3 Finds the previous occurrence of the text in the document you previously searched for
open long description NVDA+d Opens a new window containing a long description for the element you are on if it has one.


Single Letter Navigation


The following keys by themselves jump to the next available element, while adding the shift key causes them to jump to the previous element:


  • h: heading
  • l: list
  • i: list item
  • t: table
  • k: link
  • n: nonLinked text
  • f: form field
  • u: unvisited link
  • v: visited link
  • e: edit field
  • b: button
  • x: checkbox
  • c: combo box
  • r: radio button
  • q: block quote
  • s: separator
  • m: frame
  • g: graphic
  • d: landmark
  • o: embedded object
  • 1 to 6: headings at levels 1 to 6 respectively
  • a: annotation (comment, editor revision, etc.)


To move to the beginning or end of containing elements such as lists and tables:


Name Key Description
Move to start of container shift+comma Moves to the start of the container (list, table, etc.) where the caret is positioned
Move past end of container comma Moves past the end of the container (list, table, etc.) where the caret is positioned


To toggle single letter navigation on and off for the current document, press NVDA+shift+space.


The Elements List


Name Key Description
Browse mode elements list NVDA+f7 Lists various types of elements in the current document


Embedded Objects


Name Key Description
Move to containing browse mode document NVDA+control+space Moves the focus out of the current embedded object and into the document that contains it


Reading Mathematical Content


Interactive Navigation


Name Key Description
Interact with math content NVDA+alt+m Begins interaction with math content.


Application Specific Features


Microsoft Word


Automatic Column and Row Header Reading


Name Key Description
Set column headers NVDA+shift+c Pressing this once tells NVDA this is the first header cell in the row that contains column headers, which should be automatically announced when moving between columns below this row. Pressing twice will clear the setting.
Set row headers NVDA+shift+r Pressing this once tells NVDA this is the first header cell in the column that contains row headers, which should be automatically announced when moving between rows after this column. Pressing twice will clear the setting.


Browse Mode in Microsoft Word


To toggle Browse mode on and off in Microsoft Word, press NVDA+space.


The Elements List


While in Browse mode in Microsoft Word, you can access the Elements List by pressing NVDA+f7.


Reporting Comments


To report any comments at the current caret position, press NVDA+alt+c.


Microsoft Excel


Automatic Column and Row Header Reading


Name Key Description
Set column headers NVDA+shift+c Pressing this once tells NVDA this is the first header cell in the row that contains column headers, which should be automatically announced when moving between columns below this row. Pressing twice will clear the setting.
Set row headers NVDA+shift+r Pressing this once tells NVDA this is the first header cell in the column that contains row headers, which should be automatically announced when moving between rows after this column. Pressing twice will clear the setting.


The Elements List


To access the Elements List in Excel, press NVDA+f7.


Reporting Comments


To report any comments for the currently focused cell, press NVDA+alt+c.


Reading Protected Cells


To allow moving to locked cells, switch to Browse Mode by pressing NVDA+space, and then use standard Excel movement commands such as the arrow keys to move around all cells on the current worksheet.


Microsoft PowerPoint


Name Key Description
Toggle speaker notes reading control+shift+s When in a running slide show, this command will toggle between the speaker notes for the slide and the content for the slide. This only affects what NVDA reads, not what is displayed on screen.


foobar2000


Name Key Description
Report remaining time control+shift+r Reports the remaining time of the currently playing track, if any.


Miranda IM


Name Key Description
Report recent message NVDA+control+1-4 Reports one of the recent messages, depending on the number pressed; e.g. NVDA+control+2 reads the second most recent message.


Poedit


Name Key Description
Report Comments Window control+shift+c Reports any comments in the comments window.
Report notes for translators control+shift+a Reports any notes for translators.


Skype


When in a conversation:


Name Key Description
Review message NVDA+control+1-0 Reports and moves the review cursor to a recent message, depending on the number pressed; e.g. NVDA+control+2 reads the second most recent message.


Configuring NVDA


Preferences


Synthesizer Selection (NVDA+control+s)


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Audio Ducking Mode NVDA+shift+d NVDA+shift+d On Windows 8 and above, this option allows you to choose if NVDA should lower the volume of other applications while NVDA is speaking, or all the time while NVDA is running.


Voice Settings (NVDA+control+v)


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Punctuation/Symbol Level NVDA+p NVDA+p This allows you to choose the amount of punctuation and other symbols that should be spoken as words.


Synth settings ring


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Move to next synth setting NVDA+control+rightArrow NVDA+shift+control+rightArrow Moves to the next available speech setting after the current, wrapping around to the first setting again after the last
Move to previous synth setting NVDA+control+leftArrow NVDA+shift+control+leftArrow Moves to the next available speech setting before the current, wrapping around to the last setting after the first
Increment current synth setting NVDA+control+upArrow NVDA+shift+control+upArrow increases the current speech setting you are on. E.g. increases the rate, chooses the next voice, increases the volume
Decrement current synth setting NVDA+control+downArrow NVDA+shift+control+downArrow decreases the current speech setting you are on. E.g. decreases the rate, chooses the previous voice, decreases the volume


Braille Settings


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Braille Tethered to NVDA+control+t NVDA+control+t This option allows you to choose whether the braille display will follow the system focus, or whether it follows the navigator object / review cursor.


Keyboard Settings (NVDA+control+k)


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Speak Typed Characters NVDA+2 NVDA+2 When enabled, NVDA will announce all characters you type on the keyboard.
Speak Typed Words NVDA+3 NVDA+3 When enabled, NVDA will announce all words you type on the keyboard.
Speak Command Keys NVDA+4 NVDA+4 When enabled, NVDA will announce all non-character keys you type on the keyboard. This includes key combinations such as control plus another letter.


Mouse Settings (NVDA+control+m)


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Enable mouse tracking NVDA+m NVDA+m When enabled, NVDA will announce the text currently under the mouse pointer, as you move it around the screen. This allows you to find things on the screen, by physically moving the mouse, rather than trying to find them through object navigation.


Review Cursor Settings


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Follow System Focus NVDA+7 NVDA+7 When enabled, The review cursor will always be placed in the same object as the current system focus whenever the focus changes.
Follow System Caret NVDA+6 NVDA+6 When enabled, the review cursor will automatically be moved to the position of the System caret each time it moves.


Object Presentation Settings (NVDA+control+o)


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Progress bar output NVDA+u NVDA+u This option controls how NVDA reports progress bar updates to you.
Report dynamic content changes NVDA+5 NVDA+5 Toggles the announcement of new content in particular objects such as terminals and the history control in chat programs.


Browse Mode Settings (NVDA+control+b)


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Use screen layout NVDA+v NVDA+v This option allows you to specify whether content in browse mode should place content such as links and other fields on their own line, or if it should keep them in the flow of text as it is visually shown. If the option is enabled then things will stay as they are visually shown, but if it is disabled then fields will be placed on their own line.


Saving and Reloading the configuration


Name Desktop key Laptop key Description
Save configuration NVDA+control+c NVDA+control+c Saves your current configuration so that it is not lost when you exit NVDA
Revert configuration NVDA+control+r NVDA+control+r Pressing once resets your configuration to when you last saved it. Pressing three times will reset it back to factory defaults.


Configuration Profiles


Basic Management


  • NVDA+control+p: Show the Configuration Profiles dialog.


Supported Braille Displays


Freedom Scientific Focus/PAC Mate Series


Name Key
Scroll braille display back topRouting1 (first cell on display)
Scroll braille display forward topRouting20/40/80 (last cell on display)
Scroll braille display back leftAdvanceBar
Scroll braille display forward rightAdvanceBar
Toggle braille tethered to leftGDFButton+rightGDFButton
Toggle left wiz wheel action leftWizWheelPress
Move back using left wiz wheel action leftWizWheelUp
Move forward using left wiz wheel action leftWizWheelDown
Toggle right wiz wheel action rightWizWheelPress
Move back using right wiz wheel action rightWizWheelUp
Move forward using right wiz wheel action rightWizWheelDown
Route to braille cell routing
backspace key dot7
enter key dot8
shift+tab key brailleSpaceBar+dot1+dot2
tab key brailleSpaceBar+dot4+dot5
upArrow key brailleSpaceBar+dot1
downArrow key brailleSpaceBar+dot4
control+leftArrow key brailleSpaceBar+dot2
control+rightArrow key brailleSpaceBar+dot5
leftArrow brailleSpaceBar+dot3
rightArrow key brailleSpaceBar+dot6
home key brailleSpaceBar+dot1+dot3
end key brailleSpaceBar+dot4+dot6
control+home key brailleSpaceBar+dot1+dot2+dot3
control+end key brailleSpaceBar+dot4+dot5+dot6
alt key brailleSpaceBar+dot1+dot3+dot4
alt+tab key brailleSpaceBar+dot2+dot3+dot4+dot5
escape key brailleSpaceBar+dot1+dot5
windows key brailleSpaceBar+dot2+dot4+dot5+dot6
space key brailleSpaceBar
windows+d key (minimize all applications) brailleSpaceBar+dot1+dot2+dot3+dot4+dot5+dot6
Report Current Line brailleSpaceBar+dot1+dot4
NVDA menu brailleSpaceBar+dot1+dot3+dot4+dot5


For newer Focus models that contain rocker bar keys (focus 40, focus 80 and focus blue):


Name Key
Move braille display to previous line leftRockerBarUp, rightRockerBarUp
Move braille display to next line leftRockerBarDown, rightRockerBarDown


For Focus 80 only:


Name Key
Scroll braille display back leftBumperBarUp, rightBumperBarUp
Scroll braille display forward leftBumperBarDown, rightBumperBarDown


Optelec ALVA BC640/680


Name Key
Scroll braille display back t1 or etouch1
Move braille display to previous line t2
Move to current focus t3
Move braille display to next line t4
Scroll braille display forward t5 or etouch3
Route to braille cell routing
Move to top line in review t1+t2
Move to bottom line in review t4+t5
Toggle braille tethered to t1+t3
Report title etouch2
Report status bar etouch4
shift+tab key sp1
alt key sp2
escape key sp3
tab key sp4
upArrow key spUp
downArrow key spDown
leftArrow key spLeft
rightArrow key spRight
enter key spEnter
Report date/time sp1+sp2
NVDA Menu sp1+sp3
windows+d key (minimize all applications) sp1+sp4
windows+b key (focus system tray) sp3+sp4
windows key sp2+sp3
alt+tab key sp2+sp4
control+home key t3+spUp
control+end key t3+spDown
home key t3+spLeft
end key t3+spRight


Handy Tech Displays


Name Key
Scroll braille display back left, up
Scroll braille display forward right, down
Move braille display to previous line b4
Move braille display to next line b5
Route to braille cell routing
shift+tab key esc
alt key b2+b4+b5
escape key b4+b6
tab key enter
enter key esc+enter
upArrow key leftSpace
downArrow key rightSpace
NVDA Menu b2+b4+b5+b6
Handy Tech configuration b4+b8


MDV Lilli


Name Key
Scroll braille display backward LF
Scroll braille display forward RG
Move braille display to previous line UP
Move braille display to next line DN
Route to braille cell route
shift+tab key SLF
tab key SRG
alt+tab key SDN
alt+shift+tab key SUP


Baum/Humanware/APH/Orbit Braille Displays


Name Key
Scroll braille display back d2
Scroll braille display forward d5
Move braille display to previous line d1
Move braille display to next line d3
Route to braille cell routing


For displays which have a joystick:


Name Key
upArrow key up
downArrow key down
leftArrow key left
rightArrow key right
enter key select


hedo ProfiLine USB


Name Key
Scroll braille display back K1
Scroll braille display forward K3
Move braille display to previous line B2
Move braille display to next line B5
Route to braille cell routing
Toggle braille tethered to K2
Say all B6


hedo MobilLine USB


Name Key
Scroll braille display back K1
Scroll braille display forward K3
Move braille display to previous line B2
Move braille display to next line B5
Route to braille cell routing
Toggle braille tethered to K2
Say all B6


HumanWare Brailliant BI/B Series


Name Key
Scroll braille display back left
Scroll braille display forward right
Move braille display to previous line up
Move braille display to next line down
Route to braille cell routing
Toggle braille tethered to up+down
upArrow key space+dot1
downArrow key space+dot4
leftArrow key space+dot3
rightArrow key space+dot6
NVDA Menu c1+c3+c4+c5 (command n)
shift+tab key space+dot1+dot3
tab key space+dot4+dot6
alt key space+dot1+dot3+dot4 (space+m)
escape key space+dot1+dot5 (space+e)
enter key dot8
windows+d key (minimize all applications) c1+c4+c5 (command d)
windows key space+dot3+dot4
alt+tab key space+dot2+dot3+dot4+dot5 (space+t)
Say all c1+c2+c3+c4+c5+c6


HIMS Braille Sense/Braille EDGE/Smart Beetle Series


Name Key
Scroll braille display back left side scroll down
Scroll braille display forward right side scroll down
Move braille display to previous line left side scroll up
Move braille display to next line right side scroll up
Route to braille cell routing
shift+tab key dot1+dot2+space
alt key dot1+dot3+dot4+Space
escape key dot1+dot5+Space
tab key dot4+dot5+Space
enter key dot8
backspace key dot7
upArrow key dot1+Space
downArrow key dot4+Space
capsLock dot1+dot3+dot6+space
shift+alt+tab key advance2+advance3+advance1
alt+tab key advance2+advance3
end key dot4+dot6+space
Control+end key dot4+dot5+dot6+space
home key dot1+dot3+space
control+home key dot1+dot2+dot3+space
leftArrow key dot3+space
control+shift+leftArrow key dot2+dot8+space+advance1
control+leftArrow key dot2+space
shift+alt+leftArrow key dot2+dot7+advance1
alt+leftArrow key dot2+dot7
rightArrow key dot6+space
control+shift+rightArrow key dot5+dot8+space+advance1
control+rightArrow key dot5+space
shift+alt+rightArrow key dot5+dot7+advance1
alt+rightArrow key dot5+dot7
pageUp key dot1+dot2+dot6+space
control+pageUp key dot1+dot2+dot6+dot8+space
control+shift+upArrow key dot2+dot3+dot8+space+advance1
control+upArrow key dot2+dot3+space
shift+alt+upArrow key dot2+dot3+dot7+advance1
alt+upArrow key dot2+dot3+dot7
shift+upArrow key left side scroll down + space
pageDown key dot3+dot4+dot5+space
control+pagedown key dot3+dot4+dot5+dot8+space
control+shift+downArrow key dot5+dot6+dot8+space+advance1
control+downArrow key dot5+dot6+space
shift+alt+downArrow key dot5+dot6+dot7+advance1
alt+downArrow key dot5+dot6+dot7
shift+downArrow key right side scroll down + space
delete key dot1+dot3+dot5+space
f1 key dot1+dot2+dot5+space
f3 key dot1+dot2+dot4+dot8
f4 key dot7+advance3
windows+b key dot1+dot2+advance1
windows+d key dot1+dot4+dot5+advance1


HIMS SyncBraille


Name Key
Scroll braille display back left side scroll down
Scroll braille display forward right side scroll down
Route to braille cell routing


Seika Braille Displays


Name Key
Scroll braille display back left
Scroll braille display forward right
Move braille display to previous line b3
Move braille display to next line b4
Toggle braille tethered to b5
Say all b6
tab b1
shift+tab b2
alt+tab b1+b2
NVDA Menu left+right
Route to braille cell routing


Papenmeier BRAILLEX Newer Models


Name Key
Scroll braille display back left
Scroll braille display forward right
Move braille display to previous line up
Move braille display to next line dn
Route to braille cell routing
Report current character in review l1
Activate current navigator object l2
Toggle braille tethered to r2
Report title l1+up
Report Status Bar l2+down
Move to containing object up2
Move to first contained object dn2
Move to previous object left2
Move to next object right2
Report text formatting upper routing row


backspace key dot 7
enter key dot 8
escape key space with dot 7
upArrow key space with dot 2
leftArrow key space with dot 1
rightArrow key space with dot 4
downArrow space with dot 5
control key lt+dot2
alt key lt+dot3
control+escape key space with dot 1 2 3 4 5 6
tab key space with dot 3 7


Papenmeier Braille BRAILLEX Older Models


Devices with EAB:


Name Key
Scroll braille display back left
Scroll braille display forward right
Move braille display to previous line up
Move braille display to next line dn
Route to braille cell routing
Report current character in review l1
Activate current navigator object l2
Report title l1up
Report Status Bar l2down
Move to containing object up2
Move to first contained object dn2
Move to next object right2
Move to previous object left2
Report text formatting Upper routing strip


BRAILLEX Tiny:


Name Key
Report current character in review l1
Activate current navigator object l2
Scroll braille display back left
Scroll braille display forward right
Move braille display to previous line up
Move braille display to next line dn
Toggle braille tethered to r2
Move to containing object r1+up
Move to first contained object r1+dn
Move to previous object r1+left
Move to next object r1+right
Report text formatting reportf
Report title l1+up
Report status bar l2+down


BRAILLEX 2D Screen:


Name Key
Report current character in review l1
Activate current navigator object l2
Toggle braille tethered to r2
Report text formatting reportf
Move braille display to previous line up
Scroll braille display back left
Scroll braille display forward right
Move braille display to next line dn
Move to next object left2
Move to containing object up2
Move to first contained object dn2
Move to previous object right2


HumanWare BrailleNote


Name Key
Scroll braille display back back
Scroll braille display forward advance
Move braille display to previous line previous
Move braille display to next line next
Route to braille cell routing
Toggle braille tethered to previous+next
Up arrow key space+dot1
Down arrow key space+dot4
Left Arrow key space+dot3
Right arrow key space+dot6
Page up key space+dot1+dot3
Page down key space+dot4+dot6
Home key space+dot1+dot2
End key space+dot4+dot5
Control+home keys space+dot1+dot2+dot3
Control+end keys space+dot4+dot5+dot6
Space key space
Enter key space+dot8
Backspace key space+dot7
Tab key space+dot2+dot3+dot4+dot5 (space+t)
Shift+tab keys space+dot1+dot2+dot5+dot6
Windows key space+dot2+dot4+dot5+dot6 (space+w)
Alt key space+dot1+dot3+dot4 (space+m)
Toggle input help space+dot2+dot3+dot6 (space+lower h)


EcoBraille


Name Key
Scroll braille display back T2
Scroll braille display forward T4
Move braille display to previous line T1
Move braille display to next line T5
Route to braille cell Routing
Activate current navigator object T3
Switch to next review mode F1
Move to containing object F2
Switch to previous review mode F3
Move to previous object F4
Report current object F5
Move to next object F6
Move to focus object F7
Move to first contained object F8
Move System focus or caret to current review position F9
Report review cursor location F0
Toggle braille tethered to A


BRLTTY


Name BRLTTY command
Scroll braille display back fwinlt (go left one window)
Scroll braille display forward fwinrt (go right one window)
Move braille display to previous line lnup (go up one line)
Move braille display to next line lndn (go down one line)
Route to braille cell route (bring cursor to character)



Re: ndva

John Sanfilippo
 

Hi and welcome,

You might start with pressing the NVDA key, which is usually the insert
key, and while holding it, press n. Release both keys, and press h for
the help menu. The user guide is the first choice. Press enter.

Good luck.

John

On 2/10/17 9:45, Maureen McKenzie via Groups.Io wrote:
I am new to NDVA, could someone please send me some learning
instructions on how to use it

thank you

best wishes

Rosy
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