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Re: Email Client

Rui Fontes
 

Hello.
Checking the first item of that table...

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Gene
Data: 14 de abril de 2017 16:06
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Email Client


I'm not sure what you mean by check the spell tab. You can't check the spell tab, it isn't a check item. It's a tab that announces that you are in the spell part of the dialog. If you mean check the items in the spell tab, meaning tab around and look at how they are set, that may help, but I doubt it. But there's no harm in trying.

Gene

----- Original Messsage ------
From: andy.tidwell
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

This may sound crazy but did you go in to the options and mail options and check the spell tab?

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client


I'll second Gene's suggestion that you do not uninstall Microsoft Office.

It is a simple matter to uninstall and reinstall Windows Live Mail (provided you have the installer downloaded already, and if you don't you can snag in in 7z zipped format here) and, provided you've been using IMAP access to get to your email account(s) all of your messages will have been retained on the server and will be visible again when you set up your account(s) in a fresh installation of WLM. If you've been using POP, with the conventional settings that delete messages from the server either on download or after a certain number of days, the issue becomes significantly more complicated if you need to keep old messages.
--
Brian

The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill





Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Anyone ever thought about making NVDA recognize NVDA or nvda as its own acronym?

 

In playing with a couple of things this morning it hit me that when NVDA sees either NVDA in all caps or nvda in lower case, using the synthesizer I'm using (SAPI-5) it always pronounces it as "en vda"  (I don't even know how to write out something I think would be pronounced correctly) rather than N V D A.

The probability of NVDA ever occuring, whether upper case, lower case, or mixed case as a stand alone word that is something other than the N V D A acronym is so vanishingly close to zero that I'd think building in recognition of itself, and saying N V D A like it does when starting up and shutting down, would be a nice touch.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill



Re: Email Client

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you mean by check the spell tab.  You can't check the spell tab, it isn't a check item.  It's a tab that announces that you are in the spell part of the dialog.  If you mean check the items in the spell tab, meaning tab around and look at how they are set, that may help, but I doubt it.  But there's no harm in trying.
 
Gene

----- Original Messsage ------

Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

This may sound crazy but did you go in to the options and mail options and check the spell tab?
 
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 

I'll second Gene's suggestion that you do not uninstall Microsoft Office.

It is a simple matter to uninstall and reinstall Windows Live Mail (provided you have the installer downloaded already, and if you don't you can snag in in 7z zipped format here) and, provided you've been using IMAP access to get to your email account(s) all of your messages will have been retained on the server and will be visible again when you set up your account(s) in a fresh installation of WLM.  If you've been using POP, with the conventional settings that delete messages from the server either on download or after a certain number of days, the issue becomes significantly more complicated if you need to keep old messages.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill

 

Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Re: Email Client

andy.tidwell
 

This may sound crazy but did you go in to the options and mail options and check the spell tab?
 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 

I'll second Gene's suggestion that you do not uninstall Microsoft Office.

It is a simple matter to uninstall and reinstall Windows Live Mail (provided you have the installer downloaded already, and if you don't you can snag in in 7z zipped format here) and, provided you've been using IMAP access to get to your email account(s) all of your messages will have been retained on the server and will be visible again when you set up your account(s) in a fresh installation of WLM.  If you've been using POP, with the conventional settings that delete messages from the server either on download or after a certain number of days, the issue becomes significantly more complicated if you need to keep old messages.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill

 

Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him?


Re: Reading of numbers

 

Regardless of whether one would want something like 2.2.23 read as two point two point twenty-three or two point two point two three the only likely way you're going to get that to happen is by using regular expressions to recognize "numbers not likely to be money or other standard 2-decimal place numbers."

The number string matched by the regular expression would then be broken apart into its component parts then spoken.   I had to do something similar for the word, "cup," which, for some unknown reason, was constantly being read as "Cuban pesos" if it occurred after a number, and I was dealing with recipes, so two Cuban pesos of flour made no sense.  Oddly enough, if you substituted "Cup", with a capital C, for "cup" and the synthesizer got that it would say "cup."

I'm trying to think about how a regular expression could be constructed for this if the number of point separated numbers is unknown and could be more than three number groupings.  It can be done, but I'm rusty in thinking up how it could be done.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill



Re: Email Client

 

I'll second Gene's suggestion that you do not uninstall Microsoft Office.

It is a simple matter to uninstall and reinstall Windows Live Mail (provided you have the installer downloaded already, and if you don't you can snag in in 7z zipped format here) and, provided you've been using IMAP access to get to your email account(s) all of your messages will have been retained on the server and will be visible again when you set up your account(s) in a fresh installation of WLM.  If you've been using POP, with the conventional settings that delete messages from the server either on download or after a certain number of days, the issue becomes significantly more complicated if you need to keep old messages.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill



Re: Email Client

Gene
 

That should have nothing to do with the problem.  Windows Live Mail doesn't use the Microsoft word processor's spell checker.  I don't have Word installed and the spell checker in the program works fine. You can experiment but I'm not sure what might happen if you uninstall and reinstall Word or Office.  It may damage something NVDA needs to function properly and you may have a new and more serious problem.  If anything, try reinstalling Windows Live Mail and I would be very reluctant to uninstall and reinstall Word or Office.  I wouldn't do it before asking the list about possible general effects on NVDA and if reinstalling gets rid of the problem I've seen discussed here that uninstalling causes.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Chin
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

Thanks for your suggestion.
I do have Microsoft Office installed but I think it was installed after WLM
so therein lies the problem. It looks like I shall have either to reinstall
WLM or download a separate spellchecker.



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

If you do not have any microsoft office product installed you have no spell
hecker. Its another reason why I'm still using Outlook express.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Chin" <peter.chinpk@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client


I am using mainly Windows Live Mail and for the most part it works well.
However, I have not found a way to  enable the spellcheck facility.
Suggestions would be appreciated.

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

I'm with everyone so far, but in different senses.

Thunderbird is indeed an excellent e-mail client overall and works
beautifully with NVDA and other screen readers.  One can teach basic use and
ignore all the bells and whistles not needed.  That being said, the less
sophisticated user can and often does get themselves into trouble by
fat-fingering something and triggering some function that they do not know
about, do not wish to trigger, and have no idea how to exit.  That is the
trouble with using a really full-featured e-mail client like Thunderbird.

I like Windows Live Mail 2012, and even though it's no longer officially
supported that is mostly because Microsoft decided to change their
proprietary access methods and did not wish to continue updating Windows
Live Mail.   It still serves perfectly well as a POP or IMAP e-mail client.
If you want to download a copy of the full offline installer for Microsoft
Essentials, of which Windows Live Mail is a part, it's on my Google Drive in
7-Zip format here.  I snagged a copy of the offline installer a couple of
weeks before Microsoft withdrew active support.

I have recently learned of another fairly simple email client, eM Client,
that looks quite good but I have not had a chance yet to evaluate it from an
accessibility standpoint.  The interface seems to be simpler than
Thunderbird's is, and that can be critical.   If you do evaluate this client
for accessibility please report back.
--
Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the
right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill






 




Re: Reading of numbers

Andre Fisher
 

In certain English speaking dialects, numbers are treated as single
digits after the decimal point is used. For example. 1.44 is 'one
point four four'. and 2.2.23 is 'two point two point two three'

Thanks

On 4/14/17, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:
I may ask where do you find it that language? Are you using speech
synthesis for the eSpeak?

Robert Mendoza

On 4/14/2017 6:41 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi quentin.
fortunately with farsi language it works great!
nvda says 1 . 49 instead of 4 9
also i should that for farsi we uncheck Automatic language switching
(when supported) in the voice settings.
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 4/13/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Robert,

I'm still not 100% sure which way you want the numbers to be read, but
in
any case, yes, you should be able to force the behaviour you want using
the
speech dictionary. If you have particular numbers that are specifically
used, then you could add entries for those, otherwise, you could use
regex
to capture any numbers between full stops.

We try not to force NVDA to override the synthesizer too much out of the
box, because for many things, there are multiple ways of interpreting
text
and we try not to make assumptions on that (for instance is "dr" as a
word
Doctor, or Drive?).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi, Quentin!

Sorry for the late response. I would like to add to my note that after
doing a test to the speech synthesis for the Microsoft version 5, I got
the
same result of reading or having output. If there is a chance do you
have
means to mitigate this to fix this in the speech dictionaries so that
nvda
could read it precisely and correct this occurrences. Again, the
speech
mentioned for the version 5 is the one that is built to the version
2017.1.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/12/2017 1:52 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, Quentin!


The test normally occurs when using in the eSpeak ng synthesizer which
I
usually used with with my test, but never had a chance to play it to
Microsoft speech version 5. Ever since I never had a chance either the
speech settings is change as well.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/12/2017 1:29 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Robert,

Can you please clarify what behaviour you are getting vs what you
expect
exactly?

When I write 1.49.1 in Word or NotePad, exactly what is read depends on
the synthesizer I am using:

Using eSpeak NG, NVDA reads it as "one point four nine point one"
Using Microsoft Speech API Version 5, NVDA reads "one dot forty-nine
dot
one"

The exact text read will depend on the synthesizer, unless you have
created an entry in the speech dictionary which covers the text
encountered.

I did try just 1.49 and both synthesizers read it as "one point four
nine". At a guess, both synthesizers see this is a decimal number and
read
the numbers after the decimal point individually (since you wouldn't
usually say "one point forty-nine". There isn't as clear a rule on
numbers
with multiple dots / decimal places. For instance, I've heard "255" in
the
middle of an IP address pronounced as both "two five five" and "two
hundred
and fifty-five".

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Robert Mendoza
<lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
wrote:

While testing earlier, just noticed that nvda reports the set of
number
1.49.1
Instead of saying this proper by, 1 point 49 point 1

Normally, this is happening when the first one number occurs. Or, I
may
say the one's place value of digit after the period, as stated above
mentioned sample. Is there a way to correct it to the speech settings
to
make it more precise of readings numbers. I appreciate your advice.
or,
perhaps someone could replicate this case. Otherwise, this is a sort
of
a
fix that I would needed to one users or primarily errors in nvda.
Again,
I'm using the latest version of release of 2017.1 to my windows 10 Pro
machine.


--
Robert Mendoza




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <%2B61%207%203149%203306>
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess




Re: donating

Antony Stone
 

So, two questions:

1. how *are* you trying to pay?

2. which web page are you on which accepts that form of payment for donating
to NV Access?


Antony.

On Friday 14 April 2017 at 14:52:23, Don H wrote:

I am not using PayPal.

On 4/14/2017 12:15 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
It might be worth contacting PayPal as that shouldn't be happening. You
are into the PayPal system by that point, so it's possibly something on
their end or something between your computer and PayPal.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:29 AM, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net

<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>> wrote:
Get as far as typing in my first name.

On 4/13/2017 8:45 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
What part are you getting to before you get the message?

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net> <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net

<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>> wrote:
I don't have a PayPal account.

On 4/12/2017 8:26 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I haven't encountered this either. Have you happened

to pay for

anything else with PayPal on any other site lately?

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:58 PM, erik burggraaf
<mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com>>>> wrote:
Hi Don, did you try donating directly from the

website?

Sent with AquaMail for Android

http://www.aqua-mail.com

On April 12, 2017 8:45:49 AM "Don H"

wrote:
Going through it with no hesitations and it

still times

out.

On 4/12/2017 6:50 AM, Brian's Mail list

account wrote:
Unless you take a number of minutes to

fill it out,

this

does not happen
to me I have tosay. if you leave it

sitting there,

and go

and make a cup
of tea it does, but not normally. Very

strange.

Brian
----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H"
<lmddh50@comcast.net

<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net> <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>

<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net

<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net> <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>>>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io

<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io

<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>>>

Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 10:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] donating

I am trying to make a donation to NVDA

using

the donate

link in the
NVDA menu. I can select my amount and

hit the

donate

now button. On
the next page when I try to enter my

name and

other info

I get a error
page that says the web page has

expired. How

do I get

around this
problem?
If it matters I am in the United
States.

-- Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
--
Your work is both good and original. Unfortunately the parts that are good
aren't original, and the parts that are original aren't good.

- Samuel Johnson

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: Reading of numbers

Robert Mendoza
 

I may ask where do you find it that language? Are you using speech synthesis for the eSpeak?

Robert Mendoza

On 4/14/2017 6:41 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi quentin.
fortunately with farsi language it works great!
nvda says 1 . 49 instead of 4 9
also i should that for farsi we uncheck Automatic language switching
(when supported) in the voice settings.
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 4/13/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Robert,

I'm still not 100% sure which way you want the numbers to be read, but in
any case, yes, you should be able to force the behaviour you want using the
speech dictionary. If you have particular numbers that are specifically
used, then you could add entries for those, otherwise, you could use regex
to capture any numbers between full stops.

We try not to force NVDA to override the synthesizer too much out of the
box, because for many things, there are multiple ways of interpreting text
and we try not to make assumptions on that (for instance is "dr" as a word
Doctor, or Drive?).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi, Quentin!

Sorry for the late response. I would like to add to my note that after
doing a test to the speech synthesis for the Microsoft version 5, I got
the
same result of reading or having output. If there is a chance do you have
means to mitigate this to fix this in the speech dictionaries so that
nvda
could read it precisely and correct this occurrences. Again, the speech
mentioned for the version 5 is the one that is built to the version
2017.1.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/12/2017 1:52 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, Quentin!


The test normally occurs when using in the eSpeak ng synthesizer which I
usually used with with my test, but never had a chance to play it to
Microsoft speech version 5. Ever since I never had a chance either the
speech settings is change as well.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/12/2017 1:29 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Robert,

Can you please clarify what behaviour you are getting vs what you expect
exactly?

When I write 1.49.1 in Word or NotePad, exactly what is read depends on
the synthesizer I am using:

Using eSpeak NG, NVDA reads it as "one point four nine point one"
Using Microsoft Speech API Version 5, NVDA reads "one dot forty-nine dot
one"

The exact text read will depend on the synthesizer, unless you have
created an entry in the speech dictionary which covers the text
encountered.

I did try just 1.49 and both synthesizers read it as "one point four
nine". At a guess, both synthesizers see this is a decimal number and
read
the numbers after the decimal point individually (since you wouldn't
usually say "one point forty-nine". There isn't as clear a rule on
numbers
with multiple dots / decimal places. For instance, I've heard "255" in
the
middle of an IP address pronounced as both "two five five" and "two
hundred
and fifty-five".

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
wrote:

While testing earlier, just noticed that nvda reports the set of number
1.49.1
Instead of saying this proper by, 1 point 49 point 1

Normally, this is happening when the first one number occurs. Or, I may
say the one's place value of digit after the period, as stated above
mentioned sample. Is there a way to correct it to the speech settings
to
make it more precise of readings numbers. I appreciate your advice. or,
perhaps someone could replicate this case. Otherwise, this is a sort of
a
fix that I would needed to one users or primarily errors in nvda. Again,
I'm using the latest version of release of 2017.1 to my windows 10 Pro
machine.


--
Robert Mendoza




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <%2B61%207%203149%203306>
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: donating

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hi Don,

I could be wrong, but I think NVAccess uses paypal for all transactions. Paypal has an option that allows users without paypal accounts to enter card information for one time use and so I suspect that's what you're seeing.

Paypal's systems are designed all screwy. I find a lot of niggling stuff especially on my devices which are all mobile. Whenever I call them for help they never seem to care overmuch. You can try it, but if you have another device you can try it on, that may save you an awful amount of frustration. You could also set up a paypal account. Then donating would become a kind of direct banking process and you get all the benefits, yes and the tribulations too, of having a paypal account.

Sorry all this is happening to you, but thanks for persevering. If there is anything I can actually do to help, I will be happy to.

Best,

Erik

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com

On April 14, 2017 8:53:22 AM "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net> wrote:

I am not using PayPal.

On 4/14/2017 12:15 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
It might be worth contacting PayPal as that shouldn't be happening. You
are into the PayPal system by that point, so it's possibly something on
their end or something between your computer and PayPal.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:29 AM, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>> wrote:

Get as far as typing in my first name.

On 4/13/2017 8:45 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

What part are you getting to before you get the message?

On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net> <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>> wrote:

I don't have a PayPal account.

On 4/12/2017 8:26 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I haven't encountered this either. Have you happened
to pay for
anything else with PayPal on any other site lately?

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:58 PM, erik burggraaf
<erik@erik-burggraaf.com
<mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com> <mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com
<mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com>>
<mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com
<mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com>
<mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com
<mailto:erik@erik-burggraaf.com>>>> wrote:

Hi Don, did you try donating directly from the
website?

Sent with AquaMail for Android
http://www.aqua-mail.com



On April 12, 2017 8:45:49 AM "Don H"
<lmddh50@comcast.net <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net> <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>>>
wrote:

Going through it with no hesitations and it
still times
out.

On 4/12/2017 6:50 AM, Brian's Mail list
account wrote:

Unless you take a number of minutes to
fill it out,
this
does not happen
to me I have tosay. if you leave it
sitting there,
and go
and make a cup
of tea it does, but not normally. Very
strange.
Brian

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<mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>>
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Sent via blueyonder.
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<mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>
<mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
<mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>>>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H"
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<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net> <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io
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I am trying to make a donation to NVDA
using
the donate
link in the
NVDA menu. I can select my amount and
hit the
donate
now button. On
the next page when I try to enter my
name and
other info
I get a error
page that says the web page has
expired. How
do I get
around this
problem?
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Re: donating

Don H
 

I am not using PayPal.

On 4/14/2017 12:15 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
It might be worth contacting PayPal as that shouldn't be happening. You are into the PayPal system by that point, so it's possibly something on their end or something between your computer and PayPal.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 1:29 AM, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>> wrote:
Get as far as typing in my first name.
On 4/13/2017 8:45 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
What part are you getting to before you get the message?
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net> <mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net
<mailto:lmddh50@comcast.net>>> wrote:
I don't have a PayPal account.
On 4/12/2017 8:26 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I haven't encountered this either. Have you happened
to pay for
anything else with PayPal on any other site lately?
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Hi Don, did you try donating directly from the
website?
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still times
out.
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this
does not happen
to me I have tosay. if you leave it
sitting there,
and go
and make a cup
of tea it does, but not normally. Very
strange.
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using
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link in the
NVDA menu. I can select my amount and
hit the
donate
now button. On
the next page when I try to enter my
name and
other info
I get a error
page that says the web page has
expired. How
do I get
around this
problem?
If it matters I am in the United States.
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Re: Email Client

Peter Chin
 

Thanks for your suggestion.
I do have Microsoft Office installed but I think it was installed after WLM so therein lies the problem. It looks like I shall have either to reinstall WLM or download a separate spellchecker.

-----Original Message-----
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

If you do not have any microsoft office product installed you have no spell
hecker. Its another reason why I'm still using Outlook express.
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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client


I am using mainly Windows Live Mail and for the most part it works well.
However, I have not found a way to enable the spellcheck facility.
Suggestions would be appreciated.

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client

I'm with everyone so far, but in different senses.

Thunderbird is indeed an excellent e-mail client overall and works
beautifully with NVDA and other screen readers. One can teach basic use and
ignore all the bells and whistles not needed. That being said, the less
sophisticated user can and often does get themselves into trouble by
fat-fingering something and triggering some function that they do not know
about, do not wish to trigger, and have no idea how to exit. That is the
trouble with using a really full-featured e-mail client like Thunderbird.

I like Windows Live Mail 2012, and even though it's no longer officially
supported that is mostly because Microsoft decided to change their
proprietary access methods and did not wish to continue updating Windows
Live Mail. It still serves perfectly well as a POP or IMAP e-mail client.
If you want to download a copy of the full offline installer for Microsoft
Essentials, of which Windows Live Mail is a part, it's on my Google Drive in
7-Zip format here. I snagged a copy of the offline installer a couple of
weeks before Microsoft withdrew active support.

I have recently learned of another fairly simple email client, eM Client,
that looks quite good but I have not had a chance yet to evaluate it from an
accessibility standpoint. The interface seems to be simpler than
Thunderbird's is, and that can be critical. If you do evaluate this client
for accessibility please report back.
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right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

~ Dorothy Nevill


Re: Email Client

Peter Chin
 

Hello Ron,
 
Thanks very much for your reply.  I think you have hit the nail on the head. I do have Microsoft Office installed and, presumably registered, because my free version of Window-Eyes is working fine, but I think the computer technician installed WLM before installing Microsoft Office and so that’s where the problem lies. It looks like I shall either have to re-install WLM or download a separate spellchecker.
 
Thanks once again for solving my problem.
 

Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 

Hi Peter,

 

Keep in mind that if you do not have a Microsoft Office product installed then the spell checker will not work in Windows Live Mail.  You can get a number of free spell checkers that will work with Windows Live Mail.  I haven't needed one for a while, but someone on the list will probably recommend one or you can Google Spell Checker for Windows Live Mail and find one.

 


On 4/13/2017 12:03 AM, Gene wrote:
If you mean to run the spellchecker, the short cut command is f7.  That is a very common command to run the spell checker in programs that have them.
 
Gene
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From: Peter Chin
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 
I am using mainly Windows Live Mail and for the most part it works well. However, I have not found a way to  enable the spellcheck facility. Suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Email Client
 

I'm with everyone so far, but in different senses.

Thunderbird is indeed an excellent e-mail client overall and works beautifully with NVDA and other screen readers.  One can teach basic use and ignore all the bells and whistles not needed.  That being said, the less sophisticated user can and often does get themselves into trouble by fat-fingering something and triggering some function that they do not know about, do not wish to trigger, and have no idea how to exit.  That is the trouble with using a really full-featured e-mail client like Thunderbird.

I like Windows Live Mail 2012, and even though it's no longer officially supported that is mostly because Microsoft decided to change their proprietary access methods and did not wish to continue updating Windows Live Mail.   It still serves perfectly well as a POP or IMAP e-mail client.  If you want to download a copy of the full offline installer for Microsoft Essentials, of which Windows Live Mail is a part, it's on my Google Drive in 7-Zip format here.  I snagged a copy of the offline installer a couple of weeks before Microsoft withdrew active support.

I have recently learned of another fairly simple email client, eM Client, that looks quite good but I have not had a chance yet to evaluate it from an accessibility standpoint.  The interface seems to be simpler than Thunderbird's is, and that can be critical.   If you do evaluate this client for accessibility please report back.
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Re: Reading of numbers

 

hi quentin.
fortunately with farsi language it works great!
nvda says 1 . 49 instead of 4 9
also i should that for farsi we uncheck Automatic language switching
(when supported) in the voice settings.
thanks so much and God bless you.

On 4/13/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Robert,

I'm still not 100% sure which way you want the numbers to be read, but in
any case, yes, you should be able to force the behaviour you want using the
speech dictionary. If you have particular numbers that are specifically
used, then you could add entries for those, otherwise, you could use regex
to capture any numbers between full stops.

We try not to force NVDA to override the synthesizer too much out of the
box, because for many things, there are multiple ways of interpreting text
and we try not to make assumptions on that (for instance is "dr" as a word
Doctor, or Drive?).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:23 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi, Quentin!

Sorry for the late response. I would like to add to my note that after
doing a test to the speech synthesis for the Microsoft version 5, I got
the
same result of reading or having output. If there is a chance do you have
means to mitigate this to fix this in the speech dictionaries so that
nvda
could read it precisely and correct this occurrences. Again, the speech
mentioned for the version 5 is the one that is built to the version
2017.1.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/12/2017 1:52 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, Quentin!


The test normally occurs when using in the eSpeak ng synthesizer which I
usually used with with my test, but never had a chance to play it to
Microsoft speech version 5. Ever since I never had a chance either the
speech settings is change as well.

Robert Mendoza

On 4/12/2017 1:29 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Robert,

Can you please clarify what behaviour you are getting vs what you expect
exactly?

When I write 1.49.1 in Word or NotePad, exactly what is read depends on
the synthesizer I am using:

Using eSpeak NG, NVDA reads it as "one point four nine point one"
Using Microsoft Speech API Version 5, NVDA reads "one dot forty-nine dot
one"

The exact text read will depend on the synthesizer, unless you have
created an entry in the speech dictionary which covers the text
encountered.

I did try just 1.49 and both synthesizers read it as "one point four
nine". At a guess, both synthesizers see this is a decimal number and
read
the numbers after the decimal point individually (since you wouldn't
usually say "one point forty-nine". There isn't as clear a rule on
numbers
with multiple dots / decimal places. For instance, I've heard "255" in
the
middle of an IP address pronounced as both "two five five" and "two
hundred
and fifty-five".

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
wrote:

While testing earlier, just noticed that nvda reports the set of number
1.49.1
Instead of saying this proper by, 1 point 49 point 1

Normally, this is happening when the first one number occurs. Or, I may
say the one's place value of digit after the period, as stated above
mentioned sample. Is there a way to correct it to the speech settings
to
make it more precise of readings numbers. I appreciate your advice. or,
perhaps someone could replicate this case. Otherwise, this is a sort of
a
fix that I would needed to one users or primarily errors in nvda. Again,
I'm using the latest version of release of 2017.1 to my windows 10 Pro
machine.


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Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

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That does not sort this problem. For the record its not just nvda, nor is it just in windows10. I am not at all sure why sometimes desktop shortcuts lose their hot keys, but often its beetter to remove the old dodgy one and make a new one anyway.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda


Well maybe just reinstalling nvda I guess.




On 14/04/2017 8:50 a.m., Gene wrote:
Just one of the wonders of Windows. The short cut was evidently removed. Do you know how to recreate it?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: brian
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 3:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda


I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I
try to use control alt n it does not work. I have to press n on my desk
top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider





Re: a problem a friend is having after installing a windows update

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Of course all folder and windows configs need to be re done in the new user. There seems to be no guarantee though that setting everything the same as the old one will not result in menu reading issues as well.
I've noticed this sort of thing if programs like classic Shell or classic menus are used sometimes.
Brian

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From: "Engin Albayrak" <mealbayrak@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a problem a friend is having after installing a windows update


I don't know what causes it.
After creating new user, The old user can be deleted. Of course, You can
transfer the old users folders to new user. And surely, the new user mast be
administrator.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of enes
sarıbaş
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a problem a friend is having after installing a windows
update

do you know what causes it? Also, after creating the new user, do we delete
the created new user or the old user?


On 4/13/2017 10:33 PM, Engin Albayrak wrote:
Hello.
this problem SOLVED by Creating a new user,. Using "netplwiz" command
through run dialog.

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Mail list account
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a problem a friend is having after installing a
windows
update

I don't think in Windows 10 that system restore is on by default
unfortunately.
I find it was a bit flakey on 10 anyway.
I'd be tempted to restore an old back up and try again. If its a major
update then it is usually possible to roll back to the old system.
However
menues that do not read can be due to many rhings, often as simple as a
DLL
used for accessibility not being registered with the system. Unfortunately
sfc /scannow seems not to rectify this problem when it happens.
I don't have access to ten as my machine blew up but in 7 a restore of
an
old back up fixed it. Suspect? An update to an office product did the
dirty
deed.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2017 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a problem a friend is having after installing a
windows
update


windows 10 1607


On 4/12/2017 1:27 AM, Stephen wrote:
is this with windows 7 or windows 10?

At 08:06 AM 4/12/2017, you wrote:
hi,

After installing the latest windows update, a friend of mine can no
longer read the windows+x menu and many other things. Nvda just says
unknown. SFC scannow has proven ineffective. Also, narrator doesn't
read said menus. Anyone have a solution to this?









Re: Mary TTS

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Did not speech Hub used to have this option?
It always seemed a little laggy to me.
Brian

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From: "Ame" <abk043@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:30 PM
Subject: [nvda] Mary TTS


Hi!

I was wondering if Mary TTS is compatible with NVDA. I’ve looked in several places for an addon of some kind and can’t find one. Does a Mary addon exist? Is it worth having?

Thanks a bunch.


Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

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Hmm, well that might be due to something else. I have to say the probblem of slow starting has not happened here though often it can take longer if its a restart, as closing can often need to be forced if something is hanging as it closes.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda


Thanks that worked but it's slow it used to be quick but for some
reason it takes a few seconds for it to work.

Brian Sackrider


On 4/13/2017 5:49 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Brian,

To recreate your shortcute

1. Find the icon for NVDA on your desktop.
2. 2. Hit alt enter to go into properties.
3. 3. Tab to the box that says something like “shortcut key none”.
4. 4. Type alt control and the letter N together for the shortcut.
5. 5. Tab to the ok button and either hit enter or the space bar. You
should have the shortcut back again. I’m not having a problem on
my machine.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie

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*Sent: *Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:40 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda

I just tried resetting nvda back to factory defaults but control

still does not work.

Brian Sackrider

On 4/13/2017 5:39 PM, Albert Ruel wrote:

That's odd, I have had the new windows 10 update installed on my
computer, and none of my Alt/control shortcut keys have been
negatively impacted. NVDA starts very nicely with alt control plus the
letter N.

Thx, Albert
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:37 PM, brian <sackriderbrian45@gmail.com> wrote:
I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that
I try to use control alt n it does not work. I have to press n on my
desk top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider


Re: control alt n no longer restarts nvda

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From what I've read it seems to be something to do with the last update when the new one is done. No I have no idea quite why, but previous windows updates have been known to cause such funnny things. always a good idea to try all your shortcuts when any update is done.
They normally can be easiliy edited in properties.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] control alt n no longer restarts nvda


That's odd, I have had the new windows 10 update installed on my computer, and none of my Alt/control shortcut keys have been negatively impacted. NVDA starts very nicely with alt control plus the letter N.

Thx, Albert

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On Apr 13, 2017, at 1:37 PM, brian <sackriderbrian45@gmail.com> wrote:

I have noticed that after I got the creators update every time that I try to use control alt n it does not work. I have to press n on my desk top to restart nvda has the command been changed?

Brian Sackrider