Sorry to clutter the list but I wanted to thank David and Sarah for helping me so much. I did not have the website that sarah mentioned written down before and when I went in that way it worked. I have memory problems now and thus the reason my confidence level is even lower. Thank you both for helping me have the courage to try downloading it this way.

Thank you to those who designed the website that the link said exactly what told me that I was at the correct spot to download the latest update.

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On 30 Jul 2020, at 12:25, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

Thank you. I am waiting to hear back from David hopefully with a link to the full install. As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link. I know it is a fear I need to get over but I guess it is because of a lack of training on computers.

On 7/30/2020 11:39 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
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Hi Robert

With out putting any thing together the following page will help the web developer from web aim.

The link to this page is https://webaim.org/articles/nvda/

I can also put together more info on a page like turning on the focus high lighter etc and also link to this page. Even though it is not updated it is still relevant for testing a website with NVDA.

I think there is also a link on mmy website to this same page.

I will see what I come up with later on today..

Gene nz

In my particular case, it is mainly web developers that want to do manual testing with NVDA. I have some casual friends that want to learn, out of curiosity, but mostly, it's web developers.

Hi Robert

Not that I am aware of apart from the stuff I have written.

Would it be more web based? or on the desk top?

I can put some thing together for the sighted then later on post it on the website of mine for every one.

I have done some thing similar for a dyslexic people but in that case pointed towards the mouse and reading  what is under it which can be toggled with a shortcut now.

There are probably already parts up there that I can use for it.

Is it more based at what a sighted person sees on screen like a trainer or say testing a website etc?

Gene nz

David, thank you. I will try to do it. Thanks for your encouragement that it will get easier over time.

Hi.

Betsy,

The NV Access Web site doesn't have a direct download link. When you select the Download link the file usually doesn't begin downloading. Instead, there is a form which gives you the option of donating to the NV Access project. There are radio buttons on the page where you can choose an amount to donate but there is a choice to skip the donation, which you are absolutely free to do. Once you complete this form the download process should start. Depending on which Web browser you are using and how it has been set up the download might begin automatically or you might receive some additional prompts. I think that the more you try it the easier it will become and the more your confidence level will increase. The bottom line is that we really can't provide a link that will immediately initiate the download process.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 7/30/2020 4:58 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link.

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And, as you said, it's something you need to get over.  When you go to the nvaccess.org website, the folks who created and maintain NVDA, the Download link is at the very top of the page and there's another option elsewhere.

It is absolutely, positively not up to anyone to provide anyone else with direct links, even though I, and many others, do so quite frequently.  If you can't trust the site of the entity that makes something then trusting anyone providing you a link is a much bigger leap of faith.
 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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Hi.

Betsy,

The NV Access Web site doesn't have a direct download link. When you select the Download link the file usually doesn't begin downloading. Instead, there is a form which gives you the option of donating to the NV Access project. There are radio buttons on the page where you can choose an amount to donate but there is a choice to skip the donation, which you are absolutely free to do. Once you complete this form the download process should start. Depending on which Web browser you are using and how it has been set up the download might begin automatically or you might receive some additional prompts. I think that the more you try it the easier it will become and the more your confidence level will increase. The bottom line is that we really can't provide a link that will immediately initiate the download process.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link.

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Thank you. I am waiting to hear back from David hopefully with a link to the full install. As I have told you and now told him I do not feel comfortable with websites where I have to download something unless there is a direct link. I know it is a fear I need to get over but I guess it is because of a lack of training on computers.

And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876