I brought up the hamstudy.org site.  I clicked on the login link and
nothing happened.  I thought this was strange since I have used it before.


I tried NVDA+7 to bring up the links list and pressed enter on the login
link.  Nothing.


I tried using the spacebar and the enter key on the link and nothing.


I decided to try the register link just below the login link and it
works perfectly.


Am I missing something or is this an NVDA problem or is it a web site
problem?


Thanks.

--
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

I know about these.

My issue is if its just for pdfs does abby pdf fine reader scan paper documents anymore.

Its after all why I have ocr software.

On 11/06/2020 5:30 am, Robert Kingett wrote:

I don't see how a name change ties into accessibility in any way, but it's possible I missed something because your formatting was so broken up. But, anyway, below are alternatives for opening PDF files.

1. Opening them in Microsoft word. Word 2016 or later will convert most PDF's into a workable state, where you can then save it in an alternative format.
2. Use this program. Codex.
3. Adobe Reader can convert PDF to text. It's not gonna look very clean, though.

Hi, is Google OCR  free? Or do you have to pay for it? I will look it up. But I’m lazy! Lol.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: June 10, 2020 6:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] end of the line for finereader

 

hi.

i believe that google ocr is the best and free available software for

converting pdf files.

 

On 6/10/20, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

> Hi all.

> 

> Well, looks like fine reader just had a name change since I have gotten it.

> 

> It seems to be called fine reader 15 pdf now.

> 

> Since support and abbyy don't seem to deem it important to fix the

> accessibility issues and since it all seems locked to business now I

> think it is time for me to cut my losses and upgrade.

> 

> The last version was released at the end of the year.

> 

> What ocr program should I use instead of abbyy fine reader.

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

> 

> 

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

If you press NVDA+N, then T, there is an option there in the Tools menu called "Run COM Registration fixing tool". That can help in some situations. Usually it's more when everything reports "unknown" but it could be worth a try here.

Otherwise, could you have any add-ons in Microsoft Office which might be stealing focus to an invisible window on startup? I know DropBox was doing that at one point. Some Anti-Virus programs have in the past as well.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 7:16 AM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@outlook.com> wrote:

I have occasionally encountered this problem and not just with NVDA as
the screen reader. The alt-tab solution will certainly work. However,
what usually works for me is to press the alt key twice. The first press
will move focus to the ribbon and the second press returns focus to the
document window and speech should behave as expected. The bottom line is
that you want to move focus away from and then back to the document
window. Alt-tab certainly does this but pressing either the alt or the
Windows key twice will do the same thing and may be a tad easier and
quicker.


On 6/11/2020 11:46 AM, zahra wrote:

did you try alt tab to go to another application, and alt tab again
for returning to your desired program?
i face this issue many times in firefox and alt tab solution work for me.

On 6/11/20, Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@email.cz> wrote:

Hello group,

I have Nvda 2020 and Office 2016.

I have found a problem.

After starting word or excel, Nvda is silent.

I would like to know, where is an error.

Do you have an idea, please?


--
Jarek

--
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Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
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Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
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Twitter: @NVAccess

I’m still using finereader pro version 9, under Win10 2004 64bit, I bought it on Amazon for about $20. What I want to say is, if the 15 version is broken for us, then buy an older version.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Donnerstag, 11. Juni 2020 13:18
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner Software and Printer

 

Because finereader 15 has really slow menu access with nvda which support was able to reproduce.

The last update was the end of last year and I put the ticket in on january well could have been just before that.

They havn't fixed it and I am tired of waiting.

I use my ocr software mainly for paper documents that are not electronic.

These are a few bills and letters and while 80% of them are email there are still a bunch of things I need to print and I have decided I can wait no longer.

For what I do I don't need the best mainstream software, I need stable and accessible software.

I waited for ages and even let it go because of the virus in my country but after getting some notes on the latest end of life on flash and getting rid of it and shockwave I decided to revisit all the stored notes for the year past and found that.

I actually would have prefered to continue mainstream.

But I have just spent 160 dollars on text cloner pro and I have no regrets, and I'm never going back to abbyy at least not on my own machine.

Becides for the price I pay I get a spellchecker, dictionary and a miniture word processer all in the same package.

And premier may actually have other bits of software I may come back for at some point.

I know mainstream is usually the way but after switching from something to something made with standard guidelines and controls, I can't say I want to move.

For one thing the program is faster loading.

For another the installer was 90mb in size not 500mb, the program itself is only just over 130mb in size.

The program uses the iris engine.

I did have and use iris software when I had an older scanner and it was ok.

Iris itself costs a lot less than abbyy does well especially on the deal I had but access on the actual program just wasn't good not on the full version.

I can't see myself paying for a bigger program even if its issues are solved.

Pluss so far I have had no support delays at all.

And while there are a few really small issues with a shortcut and part of the installer its basically it.

I am sure they will get fixed and there will be not much of a delay in getting things done.

It can work on any screen reader and while it did cost a little, it cost slightly less than a fine reader upgrade, and certainly a lot less than a full version of abbyy fine reader.

Pluss as I said I just don't want to wait anymore.

When I have had issues I have had to sometimes wait a month for any reply and other friends have even had issues with finereader 14.

With the way windows is going I need something that will stay updated without changing itself so it becomes hard to use.

Pluss it loads fast, and there are no frills.

Its just a word processer with a few extras in its menus it even auto detected my scanner.

 

 

On 11/06/2020 10:25 pm, Sean wrote:

Why not use Finereader?

On 11/06/2020 02:57, Stanley Haupt via groups.io wrote:

I have a Brother 7362N scanner fax and printer. My scanning software is Openbook 9.0 from Freedom Scientific and DocuScanplus 3.0 from Serotek.

Stanley Haupt

bookworm@...

--

Sean

• Email: seantolstoyevski@...
• GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski

👨‍🦯 I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rarely C++.

Hi all,

This happened to a friend of mine as well, he was using surface pro X and Microsoft edge browser, regardless how many times he redownloaded always got .man extension  for whatever reason.

I told him to try from different browser since I couldn’t reproduce the problem using firefox, when I downloaded I got the expected adon format.

So it seems with edge and explorer it is changing the extension.

Thanks.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella voices

 

There are cases, such as sometimes, someone will download an NVDA extension

and for some reason, using one browser, the extension will be changed to

zip, rather than what it should be.  I don't know why, but it does happen.

Someone else may know.  In such a case, changing the extension to what it

should be solves the problem and, evidently, using another browser does,

too.

 

and, as David said, it is not a good idea to use Internet Explorer as a main

browser now.  Its archaic.  It continues to receive security updates, but

the actuall browser hasn't been updated in years and will work with fewer

and fewer sites.  Changing to a different browser is not difficult.  Most of

what you will do will be identical or almost so.  Working with settings and

bookmarks may be somewhat different, but if you are using a browser that

supports browse mode, browsing will be either identical or almost identical.

Some pages may present a little differently, but most won't or will be

almost the same.  Evidently, Facebook presents itself quite differently and

Internet Explorer appears still to be the best browser to use with it but

that is a rare exception.  I don't know about sites like M.Facebook.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: David Goldfield

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 6:20 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella voices

 

 

 

>well, I got the file using google chrome and it came out as usual, I was

>using internet explorer before and some how the file extention was changed

>by the server.

 

Larry, when you say that the file came out "as usual" when you used Google

Chrome I don't know what it is you are trying to say. Are you saying that

the file downloaded properly with the proper name when you used Google

Chrome? Also, I don't think that Internet Explorer would be able to change

the title of the file on the server. However, that being said I don't

recommend using Internet Explorer as a Web browser. Many of today's Web

sites are using technologies which Internet Explorer doesn't support. Using

Google Chrome is a good choice as it's a modern browser which is fast and

will be able to supp;ort any Web site you decide to visit. As time goes by

you're going to find that more and more Web sites will no longer work with

Internet Explorer the way they used to. Microsoft is no longer adding

features and new capabilities to that browser but Chrome should serve you

well. While I personally don't care for Firefox that browser does work very

nicely with NVDA and you could certainly try that one, as well. David

Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/11/2020 7:05 PM, larry k wrote:

well, I got the file using google chrome and it came out as usual, I was

using internet explorer before and some how the file extention was changed

by the server.

 

 

 

 

There are cases, such as sometimes, someone will download an NVDA extension

and for some reason, using one browser, the extension will be changed to

zip, rather than what it should be.  I don't know why, but it does happen.

Someone else may know.  In such a case, changing the extension to what it

should be solves the problem and, evidently, using another browser does,

too.

and, as David said, it is not a good idea to use Internet Explorer as a main

browser now.  Its archaic.  It continues to receive security updates, but

the actuall browser hasn't been updated in years and will work with fewer

and fewer sites.  Changing to a different browser is not difficult.  Most of

what you will do will be identical or almost so.  Working with settings and

bookmarks may be somewhat different, but if you are using a browser that

supports browse mode, browsing will be either identical or almost identical.

Some pages may present a little differently, but most won't or will be

almost the same.  Evidently, Facebook presents itself quite differently and

Internet Explorer appears still to be the best browser to use with it but

that is a rare exception.  I don't know about sites like M.Facebook.

Gene

-----Original Message-----

From: David Goldfield

Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 6:20 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella voices

>well, I got the file using google chrome and it came out as usual, I was

>using internet explorer before and some how the file extention was changed

>by the server.

Larry, when you say that the file came out "as usual" when you used Google

Chrome I don't know what it is you are trying to say. Are you saying that

the file downloaded properly with the proper name when you used Google

Chrome? Also, I don't think that Internet Explorer would be able to change

the title of the file on the server. However, that being said I don't

recommend using Internet Explorer as a Web browser. Many of today's Web

sites are using technologies which Internet Explorer doesn't support. Using

Google Chrome is a good choice as it's a modern browser which is fast and

will be able to supp;ort any Web site you decide to visit. As time goes by

you're going to find that more and more Web sites will no longer work with

Internet Explorer the way they used to. Microsoft is no longer adding

features and new capabilities to that browser but Chrome should serve you

well. While I personally don't care for Firefox that browser does work very

nicely with NVDA and you could certainly try that one, as well. David

Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/11/2020 7:05 PM, larry k wrote:

well, I got the file using google chrome and it came out as usual, I was

using internet explorer before and some how the file extention was changed

by the server.

well, I got the file using google chrome and it came out as usual, I was using internet explorer before and some how the file extention was changed by the server.

>well, I got the file using google chrome and it came out as usual, I was using internet explorer before and some how the file extention was changed by the server.

Larry, when you say that the file came out "as usual" when you used Google Chrome I don't know what it is you are trying to say. Are you saying that the file downloaded properly with the proper name when you used Google Chrome?
Also, I don't think that Internet Explorer would be able to change the title of the file on the server. However, that being said I don't recommend using Internet Explorer as a Web browser. Many of today's Web sites are using technologies which Internet Explorer doesn't support. Using Google Chrome is a good choice as it's a modern browser which is fast and will be able to supp;ort any Web site you decide to visit. As time goes by you're going to find that more and more Web sites will no longer work with Internet Explorer the way they used to. Microsoft is no longer adding features and new capabilities to that browser but Chrome should serve you well. While I personally don't care for Firefox that browser does work very nicely with NVDA and you could certainly try that one, as well.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/11/2020 7:05 PM, larry k wrote:

well, I got the file using google chrome and it came out as usual, I was using internet explorer before and some how the file extention was changed by the server.

well, I got the file using google chrome and it came out as usual, I was using internet explorer before and some how the file extention was changed by the server.