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Re: Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

That’s something we should test once 52 comes out next year.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

So, it just wouldn't even detect an update to start with? That's kind of what I suspected, but I just wanted to be sure.

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:27 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

From what I can find on the net, XP and Vista users will be using 52 ESR and that’s it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

So, what would happen if one tried updating past that through the auto update feature? Would it just not work, or would things break?

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 2:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

 

Came across via Twitter: it is likely that Firefox 52 will be the last FF version to run on Windows XP and Vista. The Bugzilla link can be found at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322646

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

So, it just wouldn't even detect an update to start with? That's kind of what I suspected, but I just wanted to be sure.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

Hi,

From what I can find on the net, XP and Vista users will be using 52 ESR and that’s it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

So, what would happen if one tried updating past that through the auto update feature? Would it just not work, or would things break?

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 2:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

 

Came across via Twitter: it is likely that Firefox 52 will be the last FF version to run on Windows XP and Vista. The Bugzilla link can be found at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322646

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

From what I can find on the net, XP and Vista users will be using 52 ESR and that’s it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

So, what would happen if one tried updating past that through the auto update feature? Would it just not work, or would things break?

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 2:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

 

Came across via Twitter: it is likely that Firefox 52 will be the last FF version to run on Windows XP and Vista. The Bugzilla link can be found at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322646

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA and Microsoft edge

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi David


Out of curiosity with edge and windows 10, are you using a insider build of windows 10 or just the anniversary version of windows 10?


Also with nvda which version is it the stable 2016.4 release or a master?


I know when i go into it it depends if the stable version is used it is rather laggy and when i use the master version  it is a bit quicker.


is it the same for you as well or is it alot quicker?


but i know each time i go in every now and again you can see the improvements though, they are doing a good job at making it more usable.


I was just wondering if it might be the portable version been updated all the time doing it? I do it once a week to see what is coming up in the master snapshots for the next version of windows.

gene nz
 
On 22/12/2016 11:42 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi,

I will poste a written tutorial on using NVDA with the MS Edge browser by sometime on Monday.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 6:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft edge

 

I am not having much luck at using Edge and NVDA.  Are there any

tutorials regarding using NVDA with Microsoft Edge?

Thanks

 

 

 


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 

So, what would happen if one tried updating past that through the auto update feature? Would it just not work, or would things break?
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 2:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

Hi,

 

Came across via Twitter: it is likely that Firefox 52 will be the last FF version to run on Windows XP and Vista. The Bugzilla link can be found at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322646

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: a pod cast on sm player

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


When i tried it it didn not like my pc much. I do not know if it was windows 10 doing it, but i had troubles even trying to get a dvd to play. it also seemed laggy etc, but will have a better sus over the next few days. But not tomorrow as it will be christmas day in less then 7.30 hours, maybe you could call that midnight.


I would be curious to see if others got the same results. for some reason i peeked on getting a error message from my dvd player.


Gene nz

.


On 24/12/2016 12:25 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi all,

I just want to say that I listened to Bobby's tutorial on SM Player,and it was so good and easy to follow. Wow, Bobby! You were very good. I encourage everyone to give this player a try. I will download it here in a little bit and really put it to the test and let you all know about it after Christmas, because we will be busy until monday. I will be on here though, keeping track of the emails. I just won't have a lot of time to really test the player until next week. Please, though, listen to Bobby's tutorial. It is so professionally done.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bobby
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a pod cast on sm player

 

Hear is the link.  The link is www.anyaudio.net/bobbyvinton'spage.  If this link doesn't just go the web site and down my page will be the link to the sm player pod cast.  Good luck

 

On 12/23/2016 12:47 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

Can you send the direct link?

 

On 12/22/2016 6:26 PM, Bobby wrote:

Hay I just wanted to tell you all I did a pod cast on the player that I talked about yesterday.  The player is called sm player. You can get this pod cast at www.anyaudio.net.  Enjoy.



 

 

 


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Very sorry

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

 

Do you have edge set as your default browser? If so, you might want to change it to either firefox or internet explorer. What is your email address? I'll be glad to send you the instructions off list.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sakina
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 9:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Very sorry

 

Please friends,

 , I have accidently lost my email of Brian’s step by step latest hits.

I tried to open his very first link about ribbon

I managed it and it opened in the edge window

Then it kept saying blank page and from there I did not know what to do.

I pressed tab key and listened to all the options and that is all what I could do.

I am sorry.

Can someone please resend me the email and tell me how I can open the link to read it.

I will be very grateful with many thanks. With many regards

Sakina

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

Pranav Lal
 

Brian,

These are superb. I have been looking to delete e-mail in bulk from Gmail for the longest time.

Pranav


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

David Moore
 

Hi Brian,

Definitely. The fact they are links, means that everyone has access to them, so there is no need to share them anywhere else. I am happy for you that they will be put on the wiki.

Take care,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

David,

          I do not object if you wish to place them on a webpage, but they are already public links in my Google Drive and I have no intention of taking them down in the foreseeable future.  You can just use the links as is on any webpage (or create new click-through text for the titles if you so choose) and activating them will download the document "clicked on."  There's no point in "reinventing the wheel" as far as public storage goes.

--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    

 

 


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

 

David,

          I do not object if you wish to place them on a webpage, but they are already public links in my Google Drive and I have no intention of taking them down in the foreseeable future.  You can just use the links as is on any webpage (or create new click-through text for the titles if you so choose) and activating them will download the document "clicked on."  There's no point in "reinventing the wheel" as far as public storage goes.

--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



Re: NVDA and Microsoft edge

David Moore
 

Hi,

If you could see the screen, I would think that people would like the distinction between the background and the buttons, the controls and that. I read all about this in wikipedia, and I do not understand why MS took so much of that away from the user.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Microsoft edge

 

Brian Gaff wrote, with regard to Aero Glass, and the reason for it's disappearance:

Because it was awful!

 Er, no.  It was by far and away Microsoft's most popular and long-lived GUI style.  All one needs to do is read the comments on Microsoft's Windows 10 feedback app as well as the technical press around the time of the introductions of both Windows 8 and Windows 10 to see how strongly users lamented the passing of Aero Glass.  There are aspects of it, but not the ones that I liked most, that were even reintroduced into the versions of Windows 10 subsequent to the first one because people demanded them back.
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    

 

 


Re: a pod cast on sm player

David Moore
 

Hi all,

I just want to say that I listened to Bobby's tutorial on SM Player,and it was so good and easy to follow. Wow, Bobby! You were very good. I encourage everyone to give this player a try. I will download it here in a little bit and really put it to the test and let you all know about it after Christmas, because we will be busy until monday. I will be on here though, keeping track of the emails. I just won't have a lot of time to really test the player until next week. Please, though, listen to Bobby's tutorial. It is so professionally done.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bobby
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a pod cast on sm player

 

Hear is the link.  The link is www.anyaudio.net/bobbyvinton'spage.  If this link doesn't just go the web site and down my page will be the link to the sm player pod cast.  Good luck

 

On 12/23/2016 12:47 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

Can you send the direct link?

 

On 12/22/2016 6:26 PM, Bobby wrote:

Hay I just wanted to tell you all I did a pod cast on the player that I talked about yesterday.  The player is called sm player. You can get this pod cast at www.anyaudio.net.  Enjoy.



 

 

 


Somewhat Offtopic/Please Respond Offlist/Looking For Windows Utility Written By a Member of This List

David Goldfield
 

Hi. A few weeks ago, someone who I believe was on this list mentioned
that he wrote a utility to easily alter settings within Windows. I've
lost his message and his Web site for the software and am wondering if
someone could email me the URL.

Thanks.


--
David Goldfield,
Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info


Re: Brian Vogel's Step-by-Step Instructions "Greatest Hits"

David Goldfield
 

Brian,

I wish these resources could be made available on a Web page. Would you object if I placed these as public links in my Dropbox and made them available via my Web site? I would, of course, ensure you were given credit for them but I will also not do this if that might be your preference.

          David Goldfield,
      Assistive Technology Specialist

Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 12/23/2016 12:53 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

Robert,

             I already did send the links and you just bottom quoted all of them from the first message in your reply to the group.  I'm going to put the full set of links in a bulleted list directly after this paragraph so that all of them are contained in a single message rather than split across two.  All one has to do is to activate the links with topics of interest and the MS-Word file of step-by-step instructions for that topic will immediately download to your computer for your viewing pleasure.

--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    




Re: Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

Gene
 

That's good to know. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

Hi,

Version 52 is the next extended support release (ESR) version, so technically Firefox will support these old Windows versions until at least end of 2017.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

I was wondering how long compatibility for such an old operating system would be maintained.  I don't know what the latest extended release version is but those wishing to continue to use Firefox and get security updates might be able to use it longer as an extended release version. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

 

Came across via Twitter: it is likely that Firefox 52 will be the last FF version to run on Windows XP and Vista. The Bugzilla link can be found at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322646

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: spotify with NVDA?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


if or when you do let us know so it can be linked to or maybe hosted
depending on size.


gene nz

On 24/12/2016 3:28 AM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, I'm trying out spotify.

I'm not sure how to use it yet.

Are there any audio tutorials on using it?

If not, when i feel I've got the hang of it, I'll creat one.

Did someone say there was and add on with NVDA for it?



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

Version 52 is the next extended support release (ESR) version, so technically Firefox will support these old Windows versions until at least end of 2017.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 11:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

I was wondering how long compatibility for such an old operating system would be maintained.  I don't know what the latest extended release version is but those wishing to continue to use Firefox and get security updates might be able to use it longer as an extended release version. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

 

Came across via Twitter: it is likely that Firefox 52 will be the last FF version to run on Windows XP and Vista. The Bugzilla link can be found at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322646

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

Gene
 

I was wondering how long compatibility for such an old operating system would be maintained.  I don't know what the latest extended release version is but those wishing to continue to use Firefox and get security updates might be able to use it longer as an extended release version. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 1:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

Hi,

 

Came across via Twitter: it is likely that Firefox 52 will be the last FF version to run on Windows XP and Vista. The Bugzilla link can be found at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322646

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Attention Windows XP/Vista users using Firefox: Firefox 52 will likely be the last one to support these versions of Windows

 

Hi,

 

Came across via Twitter: it is likely that Firefox 52 will be the last FF version to run on Windows XP and Vista. The Bugzilla link can be found at:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322646

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: starting NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

On a UK keyboard, the left alt is labelled ‘Alt’ and the right alt key is labelled ‘Alt Gr’.  For touch typists, pressing ‘Alt Gr’ with the right hand is equivalent to pressing Alt+Ctrl with the left hand.  For example, I have a desktop shortcut  to MS Word with a shortcut key property of Ctrl+Alt+w.  Pressing Alt Gr+w will open me a new Word document.  There used to be two alt keys on UK keyboards but new machines  started to appear with the ‘Alt Gr’ key maybe late eighties/early nineties.

 

Cheers

Chris    

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 December 2016 09:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] starting NVDA

 

I've never seen or heard of such behavior and it would be irrational to set things up in that way. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 3:04 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] starting NVDA

 

I think you are wrong as my machines always generate control/alt on the
iight alt key but alt alone on the left one.
The only difference I was noting was that on XP it seems to be possible to
create two shortcuts with the same operating keys, whereas later on I think
its not. Could of course be the result of a setting that causes this, but
its going to be a windows setting not an nvda one.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] starting NVDA


Shortcuts don't distinguish between which alt key is used in creating a
shortcut command.  Control alt and letter or number will work with either
control alt combination no matter how you create the command.  That's true
of XP as well.  There are times when something distinguishes between right
and left alt.  Such cases must be rare since I've never come a cross a
command that does.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] starting NVDA


I think it does this on 7 as well. It actually makes it easier as the right
hand alt is in fact alt control its very easy to set up shortcuts for all
sorts of things whereas in xp it could get corrupted veryeasily.



Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] starting NVDA


In addition, if you happen to be installing or reinstalling NVDA the option
to create this shortcut is a part of the installation process.

I hadn't realized, and I don't know if it's the same under earlier versions
of Windows or not, but under Win10 once you're in the shortcut tab of
properties, all you need to type in the shortcut key field is the letter N
if you want CTRL+ALT+N to be the shortcut. No matter what character I type
Win10 is prepopulating the CTRL+ALT+ part of the shortcut and you cannot
delete it. If you backspace out the character you've typed it removes the
CTRL+ALT+ part of the shortcut automatically too.
--
*Brian*

* Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from * *insufficient
premises.*

* ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902*