On 16 Jun 2020, at 12:23 am, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:

All:

I know at least one other member of this list is a Jabber user. Jabber, a Cisco softphone product, is really wonderful and is mostly accessible. When office phones are not accessible or only marginally accessible, Jabber really helps, and because it is a Cisco product, the IT departments in large companies do not push back--as they do with programs having less recognized pedigrees. Jabber is even more important now that many, if not most, of us are working primarily from our home offices.
NVDA works quite well with Jabber on 95% of the calling features; however, it does not give the "STATUS" of the person being called, and it does not work well with Jabber's live chat feature.
JAWS handles these features fine, but JAWS is so bloated and so slow that our key application, a document management system, nearly chokes with JAWS running.
Once there was a Jabber add-in for NVDA, but it did not help with the above features.
Any assistance would be appreciated.





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If you press NVDA+N, then T, there is an option there in the Tools menu called "Run COM Registration fixing tool".  That can help in some situations.  Usually it's more when everything reports "unknown" but it could be worth a try here.

Otherwise, could you have any add-ons in Microsoft Office which might be stealing focus to an invisible window on startup?  I know DropBox was doing that at one point.  Some Anti-Virus programs have in the past as well.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 7:16 AM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:

I have occasionally encountered this problem and not just with NVDA as
the screen reader. The alt-tab solution will certainly work. However,
what usually works for me is to press the alt key twice. The first press
will move focus to the ribbon and the second press returns focus to the
document window and speech should behave as expected. The bottom line is
that you want to move focus away from and then back to the document
window. Alt-tab certainly does this but pressing either the alt or the
Windows key twice will do the same thing and may be a tad easier and
quicker.


On 6/11/2020 11:46 AM, zahra wrote:
> did you try alt tab to go to another application, and alt tab again
> for returning to your desired program?
> i face this issue many times in firefox and alt tab solution work for me.
>
> On 6/11/20, Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote:
>> Hello group,
>>
>> I have Nvda 2020 and Office 2016.
>>
>> I have found a problem.
>>
>> After starting word or excel, Nvda is silent.
>>
>> I would like to know, where is an error.
>>
>> Do you have an idea, please?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jarek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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On Jun 16, 2020, at 5:17 AM, Meet modi <meetmodi2359@...> wrote:



sir i checked it it has only three list items.

1, speaker high definition audio device not connected.

2, headphone high definition audio device not connected.

3,JBL headset default device.

I tried to connect to the remote server, j c host, and then I tried to connect to the default remote server. in both cases, I got a can not connect to the
remote computer. and all I had was o ik to press.
where is there a list of remote servers? larry

I'm using NVDA Version: 2020.1.

I downloaded the files for installing Tony's add-ons directly from his Github page. Not sure if those versions are newer then the one's NVDA are pointing too in the Updater.

They're definitely older for the Browser Nav 1.9 version that the updater wants me to install doesn't have the newly added "Browser Marks" option Tony introduced a few weeks ago. The 1.11 version I have installed does.

Maybe it's just my PC then. I'll just keep closing the add-on updater notice when it pops up. It's just annoying me somewhat.

On 6/15/2020 4:27 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

You do not mention what version of NVDA you're using.  That matters, as "the newest" is, as far as add-ons go, "the newest compatible with the NVDA you're running."

The Browser Nav page notes that the last version compatible with NVDA 2019.X is Browser Nav version 1.1.   I believe version 1.9 is compatible with 2020.X (even though the actual add-on page for the stable version is still showing several versions back).

The latest stable version of Tony's Enhancements is 1.4, and Add-On Updater does not deal with development versions.  And even the development page for that add-on only has a link to version 1.4.  I can find absolutely no reference to a Version 1.7 being "live" anywhere.

You can always uninstall the add-ons, then manually download and reinstall them.  It could be that will cure the problem going forward.
--

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That works. Seems there has to be a better solution though.

That works. Seems there has to be a better solution though.

Hi Zahra,

Thank you for the suggestion.
I've tried it and unfortunately the body of foreground window is not included.

Kind regards

Izahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> writes:

hi.
please nvda t three times quickly.
it copies the title of your desired item to the clipboard.

On 6/13/20, Edhoari Setiyoso <edhoari.s@...> wrote:

Hi group,

Now that I can read the content of foreground window, I need a way to copy
it's value to clipboard.

I can't find any of such command in NVDA user guide.
Can anyone advise me on this one?

Best Regards
--
Edhoari Setiyoso

You do not mention what version of NVDA you're using.  That matters, as "the newest" is, as far as add-ons go, "the newest compatible with the NVDA you're running."

The Browser Nav page notes that the last version compatible with NVDA 2019.X is Browser Nav version 1.1.   I believe version 1.9 is compatible with 2020.X (even though the actual add-on page for the stable version is still showing several versions back).

The latest stable version of Tony's Enhancements is 1.4, and Add-On Updater does not deal with development versions.  And even the development page for that add-on only has a link to version 1.4.  I can find absolutely no reference to a Version 1.7 being "live" anywhere.

You can always uninstall the add-ons, then manually download and reinstall them.  It could be that will cure the problem going forward.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Norman wrote:

That works. Seems there has to be a better solution though.

There isn't. Bluetooth is not really expected to be used for short bursts of noise. It is expected (by manufacturers) that it will be used for music, videos, etc. You don't really care if you miss the first couple ms of a sound, if the sound is three minutes long.
There probably isn't much content in that first few ms, and you can always rewind if there is.
They don't expect there to be periodic speech synthesis coming through the devices.
In the case where they do expect that, such as on a phone call, the phone call has enough of a natural noise floor to keep the amplification active, so it's not a problem.
Some manufacturers handle this better than others, but quite many of them prioritize power savings over that first few ms of sound.
It costs power, and therefore battery life, to keep the audio path open, amplified, and ready for action at all times.
The only way to fix this problem, is to keep the bluetooth device in an awake state. The only way you can do that, for these manufacturers which don't use gate circuits with a fast enough response, or for some other reason take long enough to power up that you miss words, is to send some constant sound to them.
That's what the Bluetooth Audio add-on does: it sends a noise floor at a high enough level that the bluetooth device stays active longer, and so you don't miss any speech.
Don't use it if your tooth device handles speech without difficulty. Do use it if it doesn't.
Luke

On Jun 15, 2020, at 11:21, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm what about contacting sisco on this, sisco do run access courses etc so well they are access concious.

They probably will fix this thing.

On 16/06/2020 4:46 am, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote:
Jabber has been a nightmare to me. I’m glad to know that someone thinks it’s accessible.

On Jun 15, 2020, at 07:23, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:

All:

I know at least one other member of this list is a Jabber user. Jabber, a Cisco softphone product, is really wonderful and is mostly accessible. When office phones are not accessible or only marginally accessible, Jabber really helps, and because it is a Cisco product, the IT departments in large companies do not push back--as they do with programs having less recognized pedigrees. Jabber is even more important now that many, if not most, of us are working primarily from our home offices.
NVDA works quite well with Jabber on 95% of the calling features; however, it does not give the "STATUS" of the person being called, and it does not work well with Jabber's live chat feature.
JAWS handles these features fine, but JAWS is so bloated and so slow that our key application, a document management system, nearly chokes with JAWS running.
Once there was a Jabber add-in for NVDA, but it did not help with the above features.
Any assistance would be appreciated.





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