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Re: table problems with microsoft word

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi,

I don't have an answer directly for you, but if you are able to distribute the file, and would like to email it to me (quentin@...), I can have a look at it for you.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 3:30 AM, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:
hi,

I was working on a file where everything was as a table. Nvda was lagging significantly  and I wrote my information under the various headings. However, my sighted friends who reviewed my file said the table slipped badly and that all the writing had slipped outside of the page. They hardly could read my file. However, I have no problem reading the file except lag. How is this possible? How can I fix this document and prevent this from happening in the future.







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Re: Two Excel Questions

Rui Fontes
 

Insert+F7.

Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Chris Mullins
Data: 22 de janeiro de 2017 19:19
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Two Excel Questions



Hi Greg

There is no specific NVDA command I am aware of but the Excel command to select a column is Ctrl+spacebar from anywhere in the target column and to select an entire row it’s shift+spacebar, again from anywhere in the row.
There is probably a way to see all the sheet names but I just use Ctrl+pageup/down to read them, so I don’t know the specific command.

Cheers

Chris





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: 22 January 2017 17:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Two Excel Questions







Question 1: If a sighted user wants to format all the cells in column C, he would click on the letter C at the top of the column to highlight all the cells in that column. How do you do that with NVDA?



Question 2: What is the NVDA command to get to the worksheet listing at the bottom of the page? Once you get there, I know that you use the Control/Page Up or Down to move between worksheets you have created.



Thanks.


Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

Monte Single
 

Ive been using m s outlook with nvad for 5 or 6 years stable. You just need to get outlook set to the configuration that works for you. I have the message preview turned off;  basicly I just have all the folders showing on the left and the messages, arranged the way I like, showing on the rest of the screen. Less stuff for nvda to report on.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: January-22-17 3:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

 

Hey, If I do upgrade to ten using a new computer. Can I still use outlook 2010?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: January-22-17 7:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:39 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I just don't like Live mail, its too messy and keeps on losing its mail.

While your first assertion is unquestionably correct for you, your second one is just your opinion and the third one has never - I repeat - never - happened in my experience.  I've had a lot of clients who use WLM and have it running alongside Outlook 2010, Thunderbird, and Opera Mail, the last of which is an accessibility nightmare not to mention barely customizable, much like the Windows 10 mail app.
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Re: NVDA not focusing on comments when navigating using the anotations list

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Pranav,

When using the elements list dialog, once you have located the comment you would like to move to, you can press ENTER to move to it which works exactly the same as pressing TAB to the "move to" button and then ENTER - just a little quicker.

Once you do either of those, what should actually happen (and does for me, please let me know if this isn't what happens for you), is that the focus moves to the place in the document itself where the comment is - not the comment itself but the place where the comment is in the text.  At that point, you can press NVDA+alt+c to read the comment text.

If you wish to edit the comment itself (presumably if it's your own comment you want to change), you can then use alt+r, n as you indicate to move to the "next" comment from the review ribbon.

If the comment was from someone else and you want to "reply", then you can open the comment in this way, then press the applications key to open the context menu and choose "Reply to comment" (press M).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> wrote:
Hi all,
When I navigate to a comment, NVDA does not focus correctly on it. I am told I
am on a comment but when I invoke the context menu to reply to it, I do not get
the correct options.
This happens in Word 2016 using NVDA 2016.4.

Steps to reproduce:
1. Open a document containing comments.
2. Go to brows mode and activate the list of links feature by hitting NVDA key +
f7.
3. Select the option to show annotations
4. Arrow to a comment of choice..
5. Tab to the "move" button and hit enter or spacebar to confirm the action.

You will be told you are on a comment. Hit the context menu key and look for
comment related options. You will not find them.

The workaround is to use the previous and next comment controls in the review
pane of the word ribbon.

Pranav







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is there a basic tutorial on how to use team viewer?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi guys


is any one on the list know of a tutorial for us on how to use team
viewer with a screen reader?


is there a tutorial out there for screen reader users? I know this
program has extra features which we may or may not use.

some sighted people refer to team viewer so they can see what is
happening on the screen and not the audio only like in nvda remote.

For example some times i need a sighted person to see what is happening
when the screen reader can not see the problem.



I have had a look at the interface and will give it a whirl later on. I
guess i wil be able to connect easily enough to the remote pc but is
there a way also of coming back to your pc if needed in the session?
then jumping back to his computer? I know in NVDA remote it is the F11
key is there one like that in team viewer? also after the session is it
just a matter of logging out of the program to stop it, i will have to
have more of a look.


Any help on letting me know of the F11 equivalent in nvda remote but the
one for team viewer would be great if you know it.


By the way any users of this program is there a lag? or is it laggy or
quite quick if the video is turned off?


if i can figure out the lay out looks easily enough and can get it to do
what i want to if there is interest i will write up a basic tutorial on
using it.

I will see how this one goes.


Gene nz



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Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

Arlene
 

Oh good. I got outlook 2010 when I got this 7 box.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: January-22-17 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

 

Yes you should be able to.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

 

Hey, If I do upgrade to ten using a new computer. Can I still use outlook 2010?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: January-22-17 7:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:39 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I just don't like Live mail, its too messy and keeps on losing its mail.

While your first assertion is unquestionably correct for you, your second one is just your opinion and the third one has never - I repeat - never - happened in my experience.  I've had a lot of clients who use WLM and have it running alongside Outlook 2010, Thunderbird, and Opera Mail, the last of which is an accessibility nightmare not to mention barely customizable, much like the Windows 10 mail app.
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Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Yes you should be able to.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

 

Hey, If I do upgrade to ten using a new computer. Can I still use outlook 2010?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: January-22-17 7:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:39 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I just don't like Live mail, its too messy and keeps on losing its mail.

While your first assertion is unquestionably correct for you, your second one is just your opinion and the third one has never - I repeat - never - happened in my experience.  I've had a lot of clients who use WLM and have it running alongside Outlook 2010, Thunderbird, and Opera Mail, the last of which is an accessibility nightmare not to mention barely customizable, much like the Windows 10 mail app.
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    If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

        ~ Thomas Reed Powell

 


Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

Arlene
 

Hey, If I do upgrade to ten using a new computer. Can I still use outlook 2010?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: January-22-17 7:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:39 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:

I just don't like Live mail, its too messy and keeps on losing its mail.

While your first assertion is unquestionably correct for you, your second one is just your opinion and the third one has never - I repeat - never - happened in my experience.  I've had a lot of clients who use WLM and have it running alongside Outlook 2010, Thunderbird, and Opera Mail, the last of which is an accessibility nightmare not to mention barely customizable, much like the Windows 10 mail app.
--
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    If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

        ~ Thomas Reed Powell

 


Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

 

I never tried Eudora but I will give it a shot. As of right now I am trying out OE Classic with the JAWS scripts and comparing the new OE classic with the 2.5 one to see if they really are working with accessibility or if they were just giving me lip service. So far, no NVDA improvements. without the JAWS scripts, JAWS is in the same boat as NVDA. I also tried opra mail and that is not accessible either.


Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

john s
 

I have used NVDA a little bit with Eudora and  it appears to work well
.


earlier, Brian Vogel, wrote:

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:10 am, The Wolf wrote:
Becky! Internet Mail Version 2

And?   That's another e-mail client entirely.  All I was trying to do was to clarify that "Klause" mail does not exist while "Claws" mail does.  As has already been mentioned, Claws Mail is not accessible with NVDA.

Also, Becky! Internet Mail Version 2.7.3 is not free.  It comes with a 30 day trial after which you must by a license for $40, which while not exorbitant is more than many might wish to spend when there are a number of very, very good no-cost e-mail clients out there.
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John


Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

 

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:10 am, The Wolf wrote:
Becky! Internet Mail Version 2

And?   That's another e-mail client entirely.  All I was trying to do was to clarify that "Klause" mail does not exist while "Claws" mail does.  As has already been mentioned, Claws Mail is not accessible with NVDA.

Also, Becky! Internet Mail Version 2.7.3 is not free.  It comes with a 30 day trial after which you must by a license for $40, which while not exorbitant is more than many might wish to spend when there are a number of very, very good no-cost e-mail clients out there.
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Re: Two Excel Questions

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Greg

  1. There is no specific NVDA command I am aware of but the Excel command to select a column is Ctrl+spacebar from anywhere in the target column and to select an entire row it’s shift+spacebar, again from anywhere in the row.
  2. There is probably a way to see all the sheet names but I just use Ctrl+pageup/down to read them, so I don’t know the specific command.

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: 22 January 2017 17:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Two Excel Questions

 

Question 1: If a sighted user wants to format all the cells in column C, he would click on the letter C at the top of the column to highlight all the cells in that column. How do you do that with NVDA?

Question 2: What is the NVDA command to get to the worksheet listing at the bottom of the page? Once you get there, I know that you use the Control/Page Up or Down to move between worksheets you have created.

Thanks.


Re: Some questions about eSpeak-ng and MBrola

Mohammadreza Rashad
 

Hi dear Chris,
About MD files: They are text files. you can open them with Notepad++
and read them.
Best wishes,
Mohammadreza

۱۳۹۵-۱۱-۰۳ ۱۷:۱۷ +۰۳:۳۰ گرینویچ, nasrin khaksar <nasrinkhaksar3@...>:

hi.
i tried also the method that you mentioned and could not use embrola
voice to try it.
about espeak ng, i downloaded the msi version and could not use it!
i dont know its usage and how to use it!
i installed it and says not valid windows 32!
but i am sure that i downloaded the x86 version.

On 1/22/17, Christo de Klerk <christodeklerk@...> wrote:
Hello all

I have been using MBrola with the old eSpeak for many years and would
like to get it going under eSpeak-ng now I am using NVDA as my screen
reader. I have looked at the eSpeak-ng documentation and I think I have
copied all the necessary MBrola files into their correct places, but I
can't get MBrola activated under NVDA. I select espeak-ng as my
synthesiser, then I go to Voice preferences and I see mb-en1 listed
there, in the list of voices, but it is the usual eSpeak-ng en voice
that keeps talking. How do I get mb-en1 to talk?

Then another question. MBrola tools has this confirmation dialog that
keeps popping up every first time it is run after a reboot. Has anyone
found a way to get that out of the way? It causes havoc, as it pops up
before there is any speech.

I see there is now a Windows installation of eSpeak-ng. Would it upset
the old installation of eSpeak at all if one were to install eSpeak-ng?
I don't want to break anything that ain't broke.

I see the eSpeak-ng documentation is in a .md format. What does one use
to read .md files?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am new to espeak-ng and would like to
get a grip on it. I have worked with the old eSpeak and have done
dictionary development for many years.

Kind regards

Christo





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Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

 

                     Becky! Internet Mail Version 2
                                                           RimArts Inc.


On 1/22/2017 12:06 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I have the feeling that what's being referred to is Claws Mail:  http://www.claws-mail.org/ 
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Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

 

I have the feeling that what's being referred to is Claws Mail:  http://www.claws-mail.org/ 
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Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

 

has any one tried

Becky! Ver.2?

On 1/22/2017 11:19 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I haven't heard of Klause mail.



-----Original Message----- From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

If anyone is thinking about trying klause mail, yes, it has keyboard
commands, but is not accessible with NVDA.





Re: accessible email clients with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I haven't heard of Klause mail.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Kingett
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible email clients with NVDA

If anyone is thinking about trying klause mail, yes, it has keyboard
commands, but is not accessible with NVDA.


Re: Accessible IRC clients

Bill Dengler
 

On Jan 22, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.Io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know of an IRC client that is accessible with NVDA and notifies the user of incoming messages on all channels? I know that Thunderbird doesn't do that when the window is focused, and that Instantbird does it but is somewhat cluttered and really old. Also, chatzilla seems to do a good job, but sound doesn't seem to work.

Any corrections / alternatives?

Thanks!

Sukil








Two Excel Questions

Greg Rhodes
 

Question 1: If a sighted user wants to format all the cells in column C, he would click on the letter C at the top of the column to highlight all the cells in that column. How do you do that with NVDA?
Question 2: What is the NVDA command to get to the worksheet listing at the bottom of the page? Once you get there, I know that you use the Control/Page Up or Down to move between worksheets you have created.
Thanks.


table problems with microsoft word

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

I was working on a file where everything was as a table. Nvda was lagging significantly and I wrote my information under the various headings. However, my sighted friends who reviewed my file said the table slipped badly and that all the writing had slipped outside of the page. They hardly could read my file. However, I have no problem reading the file except lag. How is this possible? How can I fix this document and prevent this from happening in the future.