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Re: What does gra mean?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Don't know its a minor annoyance, but seems to be an increasingly encountered event.
I was hoping somebody could decipher exactly what it was referring to.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Damien Sykes-Lindley" <damien@dcpendleton.plus.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What does gra mean?


Hi Brian,
This seems to occur on sites heavily reliant on JavaScript. Personally, I tend to find it refers to a link that is a toggled collapse/expand link, although I have rarely seen it with Firefox, only IE.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What does gra mean?

I'd rather like to know what on some web sites void 0 means. Seems to occur
almost randomly.
Maybe I'm hearing something else and it jus sounds like this.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What does gra mean?


Gra is a graphic link...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 17/03/2017 19:48, Lino Morales ha scritto:
Hello all. I've been horsing around with a Seka Braille display. What in the world does grea mean? I see this on web pages when I use firefox.










Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Andrea Sherry
 

Thanks for that assist.

Andrea


On 19/03/2017 7:28 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Andrea


I just tried it and it is broken it seems.


The link to the accessible email client page mozilla thunder bird is this one at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

A link is also sent out in every email i send out to the main website and can be found at the bottom of the email.


The link to the main website that it points to is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

At present i am re directing the links from my web pages to the drop box account. Drop box done a update and made them all private and all the links got broken. So have about 250 to 300 links to fix that point to the audio files and some other files.


I will have them back up hopefully later on today unless i get some visitors and they will be delayed.


Gene nz




On 17/03/2017 8:17 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:

I am getting an error for the link in this email. Is this link still functioning?

Andrea


On 16/03/2017 9:32 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi,

Recently updated: Added to all NVDA related pages Training material and 
phone support for NVDA from the NV Access online shop.

Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird (Sorting emails via 
preferences in Mozilla Thunderbird, Setting up your Gmail account with 
Mozilla Thunderbird and another two sections to do with gmail). 
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20cl…

PLEASE NOTE: Due to recent changes with Dropbox, ALL dropbox files 
linked to my website will not work until they have all been reshared. I 
hope to have this rectified in the next couple of days as time permits.

Gene NZ









-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: NVDA tutorials posted to Accessibilitycentral.net

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Andrea


I just tried it and it is broken it seems.


The link to the accessible email client page mozilla thunder bird is this one at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20client%20mozilla%20thunderbird.html

A link is also sent out in every email i send out to the main website and can be found at the bottom of the email.


The link to the main website that it points to is http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

At present i am re directing the links from my web pages to the drop box account. Drop box done a update and made them all private and all the links got broken. So have about 250 to 300 links to fix that point to the audio files and some other files.


I will have them back up hopefully later on today unless i get some visitors and they will be delayed.


Gene nz




On 17/03/2017 8:17 PM, Andrea Sherry wrote:

I am getting an error for the link in this email. Is this link still functioning?

Andrea


On 16/03/2017 9:32 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi,

Recently updated: Added to all NVDA related pages Training material and 
phone support for NVDA from the NV Access online shop.

Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird (Sorting emails via 
preferences in Mozilla Thunderbird, Setting up your Gmail account with 
Mozilla Thunderbird and another two sections to do with gmail). 
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/accessible%20email%20cl…

PLEASE NOTE: Due to recent changes with Dropbox, ALL dropbox files 
linked to my website will not work until they have all been reshared. I 
hope to have this rectified in the next couple of days as time permits.

Gene NZ









-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: antivirus

Gene
 

There are articles discussing that many free versions of antimalware programs do things like selling information such as sites someone looks at to marketers.  Many companies no longer want to provide free malware programs without the company earning money from them.  Which specific ones do these sort of things, I don't know.
 
I don't know what you have seen about MSSE.  If you are careful in researching and selecting a free antimalware program, you can avoid this sort of thing.  I haven't seen anything indicating that paid versions of programs collect this sort of information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:13 PM
Subject: [nvda] antivirus

Hi.
I know its been discussed, there are a lot of articles saying that
antivirus and stuff is bad because it breaks security and msse is the best.
Several from several sources, I do wander how true these are.
Are security companies falling behind certainly struggling I grant you
but are they still trustable.
I have people saying that antivirus and antimalware is bad, so are os
updates and firewalls aparently how much of this is still valid.
Some of it is from this and last year.



antivirus

 

Hi.
I know its been discussed, there are a lot of articles saying that antivirus and stuff is bad because it breaks security and msse is the best.
Several from several sources, I do wander how true these are.
Are security companies falling behind certainly struggling I grant you but are they still trustable.
I have people saying that antivirus and antimalware is bad, so are os updates and firewalls aparently how much of this is still valid.
Some of it is from this and last year.


Re: Additionally: Re: Phone support: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Tyler Spivey
 

Correct, you're going through nvdaremote.com, so don't have to forward anything.

If you have Skype, it might be easier if I call you and we try to sort this out, it would be faster than email.
I'm tspivey there.

On 3/18/2017 11:41 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi Tyler,

When you say try both machines on the console, I'm assuming you mean
not using RDP. When I don't use RDP and just use F11 when NVDA remote
is connected on both computers, I get no speech on the remote computer
at all, neither locally or remotely when the remote machine is being
controlled. It's almost like when I press F11, the connection to the
remote machine is not being invoked for some reason, or is being
blocked. I have allowed NVDA through the Windows Firewall on both
machines as well and that hasn't helped either. The thing is, I'm
seeing this on multiple computers both locally and remotely, so I'm
assuming it's something I'm missing across the board. I don't have to
do any port forwarding if I am using the NVDA remote.com server,
correct?

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:

Try taking RDP out of the picture. If you disconnect from an RDP session, NVDA Remote doesn't work anymore.
Try it with both machines on the console.

On 3/18/2017 10:01 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi also wanted to add that I am trying this with the two computers in
the same room for testing purposes. When I press F11, I don't even hear
speech on the remote machine. Unless I am using my own server, I don't
have to be concerned about port forwarding, correct?

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu
<mailto:milamj@wfu.edu>> wrote:

Hi Tyler,

Thanks for your help. On the controlling computer, I choose Remote
and Connect. I then choose client, controlling computer, use
nvdaremote.com <http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, enter the 4-digit
key and click Ok. On the controlled computer, I choose Remote and
Connect. I then choose client, computer to be controlled,
nvdaremote.com <http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, the same 4-digit
key and OK. I get the notification sound that both computers are
connected and remote speech is not muted on the controlling computer.
I also get the welcome message from the nvdaremote.com
<http://nvdaremote.com>; relay server on both machines. However, when
I press F11, I hear "sending keys" and none of my keystrokes are
echoed. However, pressing F11 again to control the local machine
works well, and I hear speech for the controlling machine. However,
there again, if I connect through a Microsoft RDP session, I get
remote audio and this stops if I disconnect on the computer being
controlled. However, the F11 NVDA channel is somehow not working
outside the RDP session. Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net
<mailto:tspivey@pcdesk.net>> wrote:

Please tell me the exact steps you take to connect, including which
radio buttons you check, and on which computers.

On 3/18/2017 7:20 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Is the telephone support available for the Remote add-on? I can get
remote speech when I connected through Remote Desktop after
establishing a remote connection, but F11 is not providing me with
remote speech on my local computer.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu
<mailto:milamj@wfu.edu>> wrote:

I have set all of this the way you indicated and I'm still not getting
speech from the Remote machine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>> wrote:

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and
the web site froze then went completely off during early
afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its
not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand"
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz
<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i
always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk
top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might
havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the
windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the
second one one persons is set to it to be controled while the
other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all
the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a
update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its
functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two
computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but
when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though
I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote
machine. The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the
controlling computer. I am using nvdaremote.com
<http://nvdaremote.com>;<http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, and
ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer
settings are properly set as well. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website
for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight
related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up
to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also
follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen
reader available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




Re: Additionally: Re: Phone support: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi Tyler,

When you say try both machines on the console, I'm assuming you mean
not using RDP. When I don't use RDP and just use F11 when NVDA remote
is connected on both computers, I get no speech on the remote computer
at all, neither locally or remotely when the remote machine is being
controlled. It's almost like when I press F11, the connection to the
remote machine is not being invoked for some reason, or is being
blocked. I have allowed NVDA through the Windows Firewall on both
machines as well and that hasn't helped either. The thing is, I'm
seeing this on multiple computers both locally and remotely, so I'm
assuming it's something I'm missing across the board. I don't have to
do any port forwarding if I am using the NVDA remote.com server,
correct?

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net> wrote:

Try taking RDP out of the picture. If you disconnect from an RDP session, NVDA Remote doesn't work anymore.
Try it with both machines on the console.

On 3/18/2017 10:01 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi also wanted to add that I am trying this with the two computers in
the same room for testing purposes. When I press F11, I don't even hear
speech on the remote machine. Unless I am using my own server, I don't
have to be concerned about port forwarding, correct?

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu
<mailto:milamj@wfu.edu>> wrote:

Hi Tyler,

Thanks for your help. On the controlling computer, I choose Remote
and Connect. I then choose client, controlling computer, use
nvdaremote.com <http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, enter the 4-digit
key and click Ok. On the controlled computer, I choose Remote and
Connect. I then choose client, computer to be controlled,
nvdaremote.com <http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, the same 4-digit
key and OK. I get the notification sound that both computers are
connected and remote speech is not muted on the controlling computer.
I also get the welcome message from the nvdaremote.com
<http://nvdaremote.com>; relay server on both machines. However, when
I press F11, I hear "sending keys" and none of my keystrokes are
echoed. However, pressing F11 again to control the local machine
works well, and I hear speech for the controlling machine. However,
there again, if I connect through a Microsoft RDP session, I get
remote audio and this stops if I disconnect on the computer being
controlled. However, the F11 NVDA channel is somehow not working
outside the RDP session. Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net
<mailto:tspivey@pcdesk.net>> wrote:

Please tell me the exact steps you take to connect, including which
radio buttons you check, and on which computers.

On 3/18/2017 7:20 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Is the telephone support available for the Remote add-on? I can get
remote speech when I connected through Remote Desktop after
establishing a remote connection, but F11 is not providing me with
remote speech on my local computer.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu
<mailto:milamj@wfu.edu>> wrote:

I have set all of this the way you indicated and I'm still not getting
speech from the Remote machine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>> wrote:

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and
the web site froze then went completely off during early
afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its
not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

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Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand"
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz
<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i
always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk
top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might
havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the
windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the
second one one persons is set to it to be controled while the
other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all
the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a
update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its
functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two
computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but
when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though
I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote
machine. The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the
controlling computer. I am using nvdaremote.com
<http://nvdaremote.com>;<http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, and
ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer
settings are properly set as well. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website
for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight
related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up
to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also
follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen
reader available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




Re: Additionally: Re: Phone support: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Tyler Spivey
 

Try taking RDP out of the picture. If you disconnect from an RDP session, NVDA Remote doesn't work anymore.
Try it with both machines on the console.

On 3/18/2017 10:01 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi also wanted to add that I am trying this with the two computers in
the same room for testing purposes. When I press F11, I don't even hear
speech on the remote machine. Unless I am using my own server, I don't
have to be concerned about port forwarding, correct?

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu
<mailto:milamj@wfu.edu>> wrote:

Hi Tyler,

Thanks for your help. On the controlling computer, I choose Remote
and Connect. I then choose client, controlling computer, use
nvdaremote.com <http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, enter the 4-digit
key and click Ok. On the controlled computer, I choose Remote and
Connect. I then choose client, computer to be controlled,
nvdaremote.com <http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, the same 4-digit
key and OK. I get the notification sound that both computers are
connected and remote speech is not muted on the controlling computer.
I also get the welcome message from the nvdaremote.com
<http://nvdaremote.com>; relay server on both machines. However, when
I press F11, I hear "sending keys" and none of my keystrokes are
echoed. However, pressing F11 again to control the local machine
works well, and I hear speech for the controlling machine. However,
there again, if I connect through a Microsoft RDP session, I get
remote audio and this stops if I disconnect on the computer being
controlled. However, the F11 NVDA channel is somehow not working
outside the RDP session. Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@pcdesk.net
<mailto:tspivey@pcdesk.net>> wrote:

Please tell me the exact steps you take to connect, including which
radio buttons you check, and on which computers.

On 3/18/2017 7:20 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Is the telephone support available for the Remote add-on? I can get
remote speech when I connected through Remote Desktop after
establishing a remote connection, but F11 is not providing me with
remote speech on my local computer.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu
<mailto:milamj@wfu.edu>> wrote:

I have set all of this the way you indicated and I'm still not getting
speech from the Remote machine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>> wrote:

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and
the web site froze then went completely off during early
afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its
not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand"
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz
<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i
always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk
top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might
havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the
windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the
second one one persons is set to it to be controled while the
other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all
the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a
update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its
functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two
computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but
when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though
I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote
machine. The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the
controlling computer. I am using nvdaremote.com
<http://nvdaremote.com>;<http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, and
ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer
settings are properly set as well. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website
for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight
related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up
to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also
follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link
https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen
reader available by visiting the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Additionally: Re: Phone support: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi also wanted to add that I am trying this with the two computers in the same room for testing purposes.  When I press F11, I don't even hear speech on the remote machine.  Unless I am using my own server, I don't have to be concerned about port forwarding, correct?

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@...> wrote:

Hi Tyler,

Thanks for your help.  On the controlling computer, I choose Remote and Connect.  I then choose client, controlling computer, use nvdaremote.com as the host, enter the 4-digit key and click Ok.  On the controlled computer, I choose Remote and Connect.  I then choose client, computer to be controlled, nvdaremote.com as the host, the same 4-digit key and OK.  I get the notification sound that both computers are connected and remote speech is not muted on the controlling computer.  I also get the welcome message from the nvdaremote.com relay server on both machines.  However, when I press F11, I hear "sending keys" and none of my keystrokes are echoed.  However, pressing F11 again to control the local machine works well, and I hear speech for the controlling machine.  However, there again, if I connect through a Microsoft RDP session, I get remote audio and this stops if I disconnect on the computer being controlled.  However, the F11 NVDA channel is somehow not working outside the RDP session.  Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:

Please tell me the exact steps you take to connect, including which radio buttons you check, and on which computers.

On 3/18/2017 7:20 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Is the telephone support available for the Remote add-on?  I can get
remote speech when I connected through Remote Desktop after
establishing a remote connection, but F11 is not providing me with
remote speech on my local computer.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@...> wrote:

I have set all of this the way you indicated and I'm still not getting
speech from the Remote machine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and the web site froze then went completely off during early afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the second one one persons is set to it to be controled    while the other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote machine.  The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the controlling computer.  I am using nvdaremote.com<http://nvdaremote.com> as the host, and ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer settings are properly set as well.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



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the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries





Re: Phone support: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Jonathan Milam
 

Hi Tyler,

Thanks for your help.  On the controlling computer, I choose Remote and Connect.  I then choose client, controlling computer, use nvdaremote.com as the host, enter the 4-digit key and click Ok.  On the controlled computer, I choose Remote and Connect.  I then choose client, computer to be controlled, nvdaremote.com as the host, the same 4-digit key and OK.  I get the notification sound that both computers are connected and remote speech is not muted on the controlling computer.  I also get the welcome message from the nvdaremote.com relay server on both machines.  However, when I press F11, I hear "sending keys" and none of my keystrokes are echoed.  However, pressing F11 again to control the local machine works well, and I hear speech for the controlling machine.  However, there again, if I connect through a Microsoft RDP session, I get remote audio and this stops if I disconnect on the computer being controlled.  However, the F11 NVDA channel is somehow not working outside the RDP session.  Am I missing something?

Thanks,
Jonathan

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On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:

Please tell me the exact steps you take to connect, including which radio buttons you check, and on which computers.

On 3/18/2017 7:20 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Is the telephone support available for the Remote add-on?  I can get
remote speech when I connected through Remote Desktop after
establishing a remote connection, but F11 is not providing me with
remote speech on my local computer.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@...> wrote:

I have set all of this the way you indicated and I'm still not getting
speech from the Remote machine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and the web site froze then went completely off during early afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the second one one persons is set to it to be controled    while the other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote machine.  The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the controlling computer.  I am using nvdaremote.com<http://nvdaremote.com> as the host, and ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer settings are properly set as well.  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries





Re: Phone support: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Tyler Spivey
 

Please tell me the exact steps you take to connect, including which radio buttons you check, and on which computers.

On 3/18/2017 7:20 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Is the telephone support available for the Remote add-on? I can get
remote speech when I connected through Remote Desktop after
establishing a remote connection, but F11 is not providing me with
remote speech on my local computer.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu> wrote:

I have set all of this the way you indicated and I'm still not getting
speech from the Remote machine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and the web site froze then went completely off during early afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the second one one persons is set to it to be controled while the other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote machine. The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the controlling computer. I am using nvdaremote.com<http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, and ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer settings are properly set as well. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




Phone support: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Jonathan Milam
 

Is the telephone support available for the Remote add-on? I can get
remote speech when I connected through Remote Desktop after
establishing a remote connection, but F11 is not providing me with
remote speech on my local computer.

Jonathan

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 9:44 AM, Jonathan Milam <milamj@wfu.edu> wrote:

I have set all of this the way you indicated and I'm still not getting
speech from the Remote machine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and the web site froze then went completely off during early afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the second one one persons is set to it to be controled while the other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote machine. The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the controlling computer. I am using nvdaremote.com<http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, and ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer settings are properly set as well. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




Re: No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Jonathan Milam
 

I have set all of this the way you indicated and I'm still not getting
speech from the Remote machine.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 18, 2017, at 4:50 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and the web site froze then went completely off during early afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the second one one persons is set to it to be controled while the other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote machine. The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the controlling computer. I am using nvdaremote.com<http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, and ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer settings are properly set as well. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries



Re: a hum wipes out beginning speech in weather plus

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,
 
Strange, you are the only one to report this problem.
You have to if you installed also the audio effects of WP?
If yes, you can increase the voluume of the speech and lower the general volume of the sound card.
Found the compromise, you can further adjust the volume of the sound effects of Wp acting from its settings.
Cheers
Adriano
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 2:35 AM
Subject: [nvda] a hum wipes out beginning speech in weather plus

Good evening list.  First using latest version of nvda and windows ten.  After installing weather plus, I get a hum that wipes out the beginning speech; so I cannot understand pretty much of anything.  If anyone knows how to remedy this, I would like to hear it.  Had to install this because a competitive screen readers weather went south.  Thanks in advance; Marv
 


Re: What does gra mean?

Mallard
 

quack-Quack!!!

Il 17/03/2017 20:48, Lino Morales ha scritto:
AH OK. Thanks Duck.


On 3/17/2017 3:14 PM, Mallard wrote:
Gra is a graphic link...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 17/03/2017 19:48, Lino Morales ha scritto:
Hello all. I've been horsing around with a Seka Braille display. What in the world does grea mean? I see this on web pages when I use firefox.









Re: What does gra mean?

Damien Garwood
 

Hi Brian,
This seems to occur on sites heavily reliant on JavaScript. Personally, I tend to find it refers to a link that is a toggled collapse/expand link, although I have rarely seen it with Firefox, only IE.
Cheers.
Damien.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 8:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What does gra mean?

I'd rather like to know what on some web sites void 0 means. Seems to occur
almost randomly.
Maybe I'm hearing something else and it jus sounds like this.
Brian

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From: "Mallard" <mallard@kimabe.eu>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What does gra mean?


Gra is a graphic link...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 17/03/2017 19:48, Lino Morales ha scritto:
Hello all. I've been horsing around with a Seka Braille display. What in the world does grea mean? I see this on web pages when I use firefox.






Re: No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Dropbox did massive pooh yesterday in any case.
Loads of people found their desktop programs could not connect and the web site froze then went completely off during early afternoon, no doubt overloaded.

All this to stop people linking to whole folders. I mean if its not broken don't fix it is once again very true.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] No remote speech with the NVDA Remote Addon


Hi


When ever i remote into another pc and it is sending keys to it i always use the windows key+ letter D to put my self on there desk top. I know i am on it as i have say 32 icons and they might havealot less depending which computer i remote into.


Then i use the F11 key again to stop sending keys and use the windows key + letter D to put my self back on the desk top of mine.


Plus in the settings both are usually set to client and in the second one one persons is set to it to be controled while the other is let my computer be controled.


I do have a written tutorial on using it on my web site but all the audio tutorials are not working at present as drop box done a update and broke them all which are in the process of been fixed.


Gene nz

.

On 18/03/2017 6:55 AM, Jonathan Milam wrote:
Hi All,

I recently installed NVDA and the Remote Add-on to test its functionality. I am able to successfully connect the two computers, and get the notification that both are connected, but when I press F11, I get no speech from the remote machine, though I do hear a message that I am now controlling the remote machine. The remote audio Mute option is not checked on the controlling computer. I am using nvdaremote.com<http://nvdaremote.com>; as the host, and ensuring that the controlled computer and controlling computer settings are properly set as well. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jonathan



--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: a hum wipes out beginning speech in weather plus

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

When you say a hum, first of all which synth ie just one or all, and could it really be some kind of contention, like speech cutting in and out very fast. This can occur if processor gets maxed out.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2017 1:35 AM
Subject: [nvda] a hum wipes out beginning speech in weather plus


Good evening list. First using latest version of nvda and windows ten. After installing weather plus, I get a hum that wipes out the beginning speech; so I cannot understand pretty much of anything. If anyone knows how to remedy this, I would like to hear it. Had to install this because a competitive screen readers weather went south. Thanks in advance; Marv


Re: What does gra mean?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'd rather like to know what on some web sites void 0 means. Seems to occur almost randomly.
Maybe I'm hearing something else and it jus sounds like this.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What does gra mean?


Gra is a graphic link...

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 17/03/2017 19:48, Lino Morales ha scritto:
Hello all. I've been horsing around with a Seka Braille display. What in the world does grea mean? I see this on web pages when I use firefox.





Re: NV Access's In-Process blog - featuring Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Quentin.


out of curiosity where about is the archive keeped if any if some one wanted to look over the older in process issues?


Gene nz



On 18/03/2017 1:17 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
The NV Access team are fresh from CSUN 2017.  It has news and updates on current projects.  It has a link to the post published at CSUN (that I may or may not have forgotten to actually promote anywhere).  More importantly, this week's In-Process has Mick driving a speedboat near an aircraft carrier!


Regards

Quentin.

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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
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the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries