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Re: Accessible File Managers

Pete <emac00@...>
 

you can try A43

On 3/13/2017 1:23 AM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
In the wake of severe usability problems I am encountering with
Windows Explorer in the past several months with which I do not desire
to put up any longer, I seek recommendations of alternative file
managers for Windows which are free, accessible and advisable. A
simplistic interface would be preferable, since I perform tasks of
little complexity on the computer when it comes to file management.
I would appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.


Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

Isaac <bigikemusic@...>
 


just remove all of the files related to eloquence in the codefactory addon, and use the you know the other one

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

The way I see it, code factory's eloquence uses the same Eloquence DLL with the same product; it just does it in a more hacky and less reliable way. So if you pay for code factory Eloquence, you've legally licensed your copy; and if you use the unofficial Eloquence, you have stability and you can honestly say you've paid for it. I'm sure that's not how the law sees it, but it's just  my thoughts. I personally find that the code factory one is less reliable as well.


On 2017-03-12 11:49, David Griffith wrote:

I am sorry you have problems with Jaws also. Jaws 18 is fine for me at this end.

There is a known issue with Code Factory Eloquence  with NVDA.

I have seen several complaints from NVDA users on other lists than this which complain of the extreme delay with NVDA loading with Code Factory Eloquence. This caused some to recommend using the illegal NVDA Eloquence addon  as an alternative which drew an angry response from the person retailing Code Factory Eloquence in this country.

If was from this person retailing the Code Factory product in this country that I learnt the tip of amending sound properties in the Control Panel  as a partial  solution to the slow loading. He in turn had got this advice from Code Factry as I understand it.

Presumably as not all people have the same configurations in their Sound Control Panel applet  the  experience of people experiencing this delay may well vary.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: matthew dyer
Sent: 12 March 2017 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

Hi,

Using jfw 18 with elequence, I have this problem sop I don't think this is an NVDA problem.  JMT.

Matthew

On 03/12/2017 06:42 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Yes I have had this issue of extreme delayed start up along with the additional issue of NVDA and eloquence freezing in large  File Explorer windows.

This does not happen with the  illegal versions of Eloquence which is disappointing from a a Code Factory quality point of view.

I managed to improve matters  to some degree by going into the Sound Properties in Windows Control Panel, selecting my default sound device and turning off all the fancy affects like surround sound and just selecting just basic stereo as my output format.

This has had the affect of slightly diminishing the funkier music output from my PC but I am not now waiting upt to a minute  or more for NVDA to load.

I still get the problem of NVDA not responding with large file explorer windows  but what I have learnt is that if you turn Narrator on with Windows Enter temporarily you can navigate your file lists fine until NVDA wakes up and starts responding again. I just turn Narrator off when NVDA finally catches up.

David Griffith

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Darrell Shandrow Hilliker
Sent: 12 March 2017 10:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

Hello Everyone,

I am experiencing a significant delay after launching NVDA with Code Factory’s Eloquence implementation selected as the speech synthesizer.

I am running on Windows 10.

Does anyone else experience this issue and, if so, what steps have resolved this issue?

Thanks,

Darrell



Re: Accessible File Managers

Gene
 

What difficulties?  What version of Windows?  At this point, we don't know if these difficulties are the result of changes in the Windows interface or if they are the result of something else that should be looked into such as malware. a hardware problem or something else I may not know enough to discuss. 
 
Gene
----- Orihginal Message -----

Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 12:23 AM
Subject: [nvda] Accessible File Managers

Dear all,
In the wake of severe usability problems I am encountering with
Windows Explorer in the past several months with which I do not desire
to put up any longer, I seek recommendations of alternative file
managers for Windows which are free, accessible and advisable. A
simplistic interface would be preferable, since I perform tasks of
little complexity on the computer when it comes to file management.
I would appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Avid Enthusiast and User of the Free NVDA Screen Reader (www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750



Re: Accessible File Managers

Tyler Spivey
 

On 3/12/2017 10:23 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Dear all,
In the wake of severe usability problems I am encountering with
Windows Explorer in the past several months with which I do not desire
to put up any longer, I seek recommendations of alternative file
managers for Windows which are free, accessible and advisable. A
simplistic interface would be preferable, since I perform tasks of
little complexity on the computer when it comes to file management.
I would appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.


Accessible File Managers

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
In the wake of severe usability problems I am encountering with
Windows Explorer in the past several months with which I do not desire
to put up any longer, I seek recommendations of alternative file
managers for Windows which are free, accessible and advisable. A
simplistic interface would be preferable, since I perform tasks of
little complexity on the computer when it comes to file management.
I would appreciate any assistance.
Thanks.

--
Best Regards
Bhavya Shah

Avid Enthusiast and User of the Free NVDA Screen Reader (www.nvaccess.org)

Contacting Me
E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@gmail.com
Follow me on Twitter @BhavyaShah125 or www.twitter.com/BhavyaShah125
Mobile Number: +91 7506221750


Re: Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Gene
 

In any version of Windows, as far as I know, you can hold the Windows key and type r.  then wait a moment and type narrator and press enter. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Hi


It will depend also how you start narrator in earlier versions of Windows to. there were a couple of different ways to start it depending on the windows version but using the Windows key + letter R then typing in narrator then pressing the enter key would usually do it.


I think in xp, vista etc you could do it this way.


If not then in xp and i think vista it was the windows key + letter U then the ALT key + letter N


Later on i think in 7 and up it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator.


I think the directions are up there on the web site any how i would have to check to be sure.


Gene nz



On 13/03/2017 4:08 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Greetings,

 

I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it.  Question:  Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance, would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as long as I bring my thumb drive with me?  How does that work?

 

I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope NVDA has the portability I would need.  Thanks for any instructions and advice.

 

Judy

 


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


It will depend also how you start narrator in earlier versions of Windows to. there were a couple of different ways to start it depending on the windows version but using the Windows key + letter R then typing in narrator then pressing the enter key would usually do it.


I think in xp, vista etc you could do it this way.


If not then in xp and i think vista it was the windows key + letter U then the ALT key + letter N


Later on i think in 7 and up it was the windows key + the enter key to start narrator.


I think the directions are up there on the web site any how i would have to check to be sure.


Gene nz



On 13/03/2017 4:08 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Greetings,

 

I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it.  Question:  Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance, would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as long as I bring my thumb drive with me?  How does that work?

 

I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope NVDA has the portability I would need.  Thanks for any instructions and advice.

 

Judy

 


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Judy


I guess it depends whic way you start NVDA from the thumb drive and on which operating system.


The older xp system i think it was you could plug it in and a auto play menu would come up with start nVDA but in later versions this was stopped.


it also depends if you done it on a CD if the auto play menu was enabled or not.


I do have some different ways on my website along with any extra files that might be needed. The extra files were more for the auto play menu part of windows.


The steps were either done using a Windows 7 machine and i think on windows 10 as well.


the link to the pages where the audio or written tutorials are can be found at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

You can jump down by heading to the portable tutorials. there are a few different ones to pick from.


I like the one where you name the usb stick qqq then make a folder on the usb stick called nvda then have all the files put into it.


if you get stuff on a new machine you can always bring up narrator to start your copy of nvda as well.


I am so used to starting a computer without narrator i have got used to it.


Any how have a sus and look for the ones that say portable.


They are easy to follow.


hope they help.


Gene nz



On 13/03/2017 4:08 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Greetings,

 

I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it.  Question:  Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance, would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as long as I bring my thumb drive with me?  How does that work?

 

I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope NVDA has the portability I would need.  Thanks for any instructions and advice.

 

Judy

 


-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Gene
 

There is more than one way to make a portable copy of NVDA.  Here is one way.  I am assuming that NVDA is already installed on your machine. 
 
Major new steps start on new lines.
 
First, create a folder in which you want to install NVDA.
Then, while NVDA is running, open the NvDA menu with NVDA key n.
Down arrow to tools.
Press enter.  You are now in a submenu. 
Down arrow to create portable copy and press enter.
You are now in a dialog.
Tab to the browse button and press enter.
If you don't know how to work with the dialog you are now in, ask here.
Open the folder you have created to place NVDA in.
Then continue to make the portable copy.  Look around the dialog and if you have questions, ask here.
Once yu have made the portable copy, copy the folder you created onto the thumb drive.
Or cut it to the thumb drive, whichever you wish.
To run NVDA from the thumb drive, connect the thumb drive to the machine you want to run it on.  Have Narrator running before you connect the thumb drive.  If you don't know how to run Narrator, ask here.
Once Narrator is running, find the folder that contains NVDA on the thumb drive.  Open the folder.
Look for NVDA.exe and press enter.  You will probably just here nvda but not exe. 
NVDA will run.  I don't know if you will be asked anything first such as if you want to run the file.  I don't think so. 
Then close Narrator.  It will cause no problem to have NVDA and Narrator running simultaneously so close Narrator and continue running NVDA.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:08 PM
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Greetings,

 

I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it.  Question:  Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance, would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as long as I bring my thumb drive with me?  How does that work?

 

I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope NVDA has the portability I would need.  Thanks for any instructions and advice.

 

Judy

 


Re: Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Arlene
 

Yes you can use NVDA on a thumb drive. Someone can better answer your question on here. I think you can do it as long as you have the drive on that computer you are using. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: March-12-17 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

 

Greetings,

 

I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it.  Question:  Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance, would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as long as I bring my thumb drive with me?  How does that work?

 

I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope NVDA has the portability I would need.  Thanks for any instructions and advice.

 

Judy

 


Using NVDA from a thumb drive?

Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Greetings,

 

I am new to the list, and somewhat familiar with NVDA and love it.  Question:  Is there a way to use NVDA from a thumbdrive, for instance, would I be able to use it on whatever computer I am assigned to, as long as I bring my thumb drive with me?  How does that work?

 

I have been a Jaws user for almost 20 years, hard to believe, but hope NVDA has the portability I would need.  Thanks for any instructions and advice.

 

Judy

 


Re: Accessible Application Updater

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Thank you. I really appreciate it.
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater

Here you go:
 
 
Dean
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
 
Well, I know that, but I found that site quite confusing, not sure why, but, I did.
 
Have you got a more direct link to the download page?
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
 
I think filehippo.com

On 12/03/2017 22:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> Where does one get the file hippo manager you speak of?
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
>     <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>
>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 5:26 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>
>     fare point,   but then again the file hippo program is just the same I
>     think?
>
>     On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>     > Like most of these though, it can only update apps that exist on
>     the site.
>     > In the real world many programs do have their own check for updates
>     > function now. The snag can be that the web site they route to is not
>     > accessible.
>     > Brian
>     >
>     > bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...>
>     > Sent via blueyonder.
>     > Please address personal email to:-
>     > briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>,
>     putting 'Brian Gaff'
>     > in the display name field.
>     > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io"
>     > <the.big.white.shepherd@...
>     <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>>
>     > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
>     > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:03 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>     >
>     >
>     >> Ninite is good www.ninite.com <http://www.ninite.com> hope this
>     helps.
>     >>
>     >> On 11/03/2017 05:40, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>     >>> Hi. Does anyone know of a good app updater for Windows? I’ve
>     been using
>     >>> Filehippo App manager, but I was wondering if the if there was
>     anything
>     >>> better.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>     >>> Windows 10
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>



Re: Accessible Application Updater

Dean Masters <dwmasters15@...>
 

Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
 
Well, I know that, but I found that site quite confusing, not sure why, but, I did.
 
Have you got a more direct link to the download page?
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
 
I think filehippo.com

On 12/03/2017 22:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> Where does one get the file hippo manager you speak of?
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
>     <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>
>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 5:26 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>
>     fare point,   but then again the file hippo program is just the same I
>     think?
>
>     On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>     > Like most of these though, it can only update apps that exist on
>     the site.
>     > In the real world many programs do have their own check for updates
>     > function now. The snag can be that the web site they route to is not
>     > accessible.
>     > Brian
>     >
>     > bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...>
>     > Sent via blueyonder.
>     > Please address personal email to:-
>     > briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>,
>     putting 'Brian Gaff'
>     > in the display name field.
>     > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io"
>     > <the.big.white.shepherd@...
>     <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>>
>     > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
>     > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:03 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>     >
>     >
>     >> Ninite is good www.ninite.com <http://www.ninite.com> hope this
>     helps.
>     >>
>     >> On 11/03/2017 05:40, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>     >>> Hi. Does anyone know of a good app updater for Windows? I’ve
>     been using
>     >>> Filehippo App manager, but I was wondering if the if there was
>     anything
>     >>> better.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>     >>> Windows 10
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>



Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com

Gene
 

If you search in browse mode you can use the browse mode search command NVDA key f.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com

I just discovered something interesting. The message starts with browse mode off, if I press NVDA-space it turns browse mode on and the message works. So, for some reason the message doesn’t turn browse mode on like it should.

 

Is there a way to search in a message in outlook like NVDA-ctrl-f does on a web page?

Thanks,

Sam

 

Sam Bushman

LibertyRoundTable.com

801-756-9133

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com

 

I don't know how you might do it.  As I said, you need to forward it to yourself so that you can see what happens without it being sent to the list. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman

Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:25 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com

 

Hi Gene,

 

Great point, I can read the message that came from the list just fine. That is the same as a forward.

We now need to see how I can get the message to others to test in its original state.

Any ideas?

 

Thanks,

 

Sam Bushman

LibertyRoundTable.com

801-756-9133

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com

 

Also, I don't think forwarding the message would change it but I would suggest forwarding it to yourself.  We need to rule out the possibility that the original doesn't read properly in your program using NVDA but the forward may for some reason.  there are too many unknown variables to draw even tentative conclusions now.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman

Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:46 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com

 

Hi Jene,

 

I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird.

I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that.

Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.

 

My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

Sam Bushman

LibertyRoundTable.com

801-756-9133

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com

 

Yes.  Try reading it in other ways.  I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser.  You may also be reading mail as html.  If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it.  I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman

Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM

Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com

 

Hi All,

 

Can you read the below message with ease?

I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …

 

Thanks for checking on this for me.

 

 

From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 1:08 AM
Subject: Your ChangeAlert for www.tetonsports.com

 

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Re: Accessible Application Updater

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Well, I know that, but I found that site quite confusing, not sure why, but, I did.
 
Have you got a more direct link to the download page?
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater

I think filehippo.com

On 12/03/2017 22:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
> Where does one get the file hippo manager you speak of?
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
>
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
>     <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>
>     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>     *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 5:26 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>
>     fare point,   but then again the file hippo program is just the same I
>     think?
>
>     On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
>     > Like most of these though, it can only update apps that exist on
>     the site.
>     > In the real world many programs do have their own check for updates
>     > function now. The snag can be that the web site they route to is not
>     > accessible.
>     > Brian
>     >
>     > bglists@... <mailto:bglists@...>
>     > Sent via blueyonder.
>     > Please address personal email to:-
>     > briang1@... <mailto:briang1@...>,
>     putting 'Brian Gaff'
>     > in the display name field.
>     > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io"
>     > <the.big.white.shepherd@...
>     <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd@...>>
>     > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
>     > Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:03 PM
>     > Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>     >
>     >
>     >> Ninite is good www.ninite.com <http://www.ninite.com> hope this
>     helps.
>     >>
>     >> On 11/03/2017 05:40, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>     >>> Hi. Does anyone know of a good app updater for Windows? I’ve
>     been using
>     >>> Filehippo App manager, but I was wondering if the if there was
>     anything
>     >>> better.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>     >>> Windows 10
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>



Re: Accessible Application Updater

Kevin Cussick
 

I think filehippo.com

On 12/03/2017 22:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Where does one get the file hippo manager you speak of?
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries

http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
<mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2017 5:26 PM
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater

fare point, but then again the file hippo program is just the same I
think?

On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> Like most of these though, it can only update apps that exist on
the site.
> In the real world many programs do have their own check for updates
> function now. The snag can be that the web site they route to is not
> accessible.
> Brian
>
> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io"
> <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io
<mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>
>
>> Ninite is good www.ninite.com <http://www.ninite.com>; hope this
helps.
>>
>> On 11/03/2017 05:40, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>>> Hi. Does anyone know of a good app updater for Windows? I’ve
been using
>>> Filehippo App manager, but I was wondering if the if there was
anything
>>> better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
>>> Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: Accessible Application Updater

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Where does one get the file hippo manager you speak of?
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater

fare point,   but then again the file hippo program is just the same I
think?

On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
> Like most of these though, it can only update apps that exist on the site.
> In the real world many programs do have their own check for updates
> function now. The snag can be that the web site they route to is not
> accessible.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal email to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io"
> <the.big.white.shepherd@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater
>
>
>> Ninite is good www.ninite.com hope this helps.
>>
>> On 11/03/2017 05:40, Lanie Molinar wrote:
>>> Hi. Does anyone know of a good app updater for Windows? I’ve been using
>>> Filehippo App manager, but I was wondering if the if there was anything
>>> better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>> Windows 10
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: Accessible Application Updater

Kevin Cussick
 

fare point, but then again the file hippo program is just the same I think?

On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Like most of these though, it can only update apps that exist on the site.
In the real world many programs do have their own check for updates
function now. The snag can be that the web site they route to is not
accessible.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io"
<the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible Application Updater


Ninite is good www.ninite.com hope this helps.

On 11/03/2017 05:40, Lanie Molinar wrote:
Hi. Does anyone know of a good app updater for Windows? I’ve been using
Filehippo App manager, but I was wondering if the if there was anything
better.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10






Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

Arlene
 

It also depends on your system as well. I hope I’m wrong!  For some Elequence may respond quickly while for some it’s slow to respond!  I have it in jaws 14 and I use E speak for NVDA.  Now, Mind you I don’t have Jaws 18 but if it responds no problem then you may have a good system.  I could be lying! 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March-12-17 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

 

I am sorry you have problems with Jaws also. Jaws 18 is fine for me at this end.

 

There is a known issue with Code Factory Eloquence  with NVDA.

I have seen several complaints from NVDA users on other lists than this which complain of the extreme delay with NVDA loading with Code Factory Eloquence. This caused some to recommend using the illegal NVDA Eloquence addon  as an alternative which drew an angry response from the person retailing Code Factory Eloquence in this country.

 

If was from this person retailing the Code Factory product in this country that I learnt the tip of amending sound properties in the Control Panel  as a partial  solution to the slow loading. He in turn had got this advice from Code Factry as I understand it.

 

Presumably as not all people have the same configurations in their Sound Control Panel applet  the  experience of people experiencing this delay may well vary.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: matthew dyer
Sent: 12 March 2017 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

 

Hi,

 

Using jfw 18 with elequence, I have this problem sop I don't think this is an NVDA problem.  JMT.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

On 03/12/2017 06:42 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Yes I have had this issue of extreme delayed start up along with the additional issue of NVDA and eloquence freezing in large  File Explorer windows.

 

This does not happen with the  illegal versions of Eloquence which is disappointing from a a Code Factory quality point of view.

 

I managed to improve matters  to some degree by going into the Sound Properties in Windows Control Panel, selecting my default sound device and turning off all the fancy affects like surround sound and just selecting just basic stereo as my output format.

 

This has had the affect of slightly diminishing the funkier music output from my PC but I am not now waiting upt to a minute  or more for NVDA to load.

 

I still get the problem of NVDA not responding with large file explorer windows  but what I have learnt is that if you turn Narrator on with Windows Enter temporarily you can navigate your file lists fine until NVDA wakes up and starts responding again. I just turn Narrator off when NVDA finally catches up.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Darrell Shandrow Hilliker
Sent: 12 March 2017 10:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I am experiencing a significant delay after launching NVDA with Code Factory’s Eloquence implementation selected as the speech synthesizer.

 

I am running on Windows 10.

 

Does anyone else experience this issue and, if so, what steps have resolved this issue?

 

Thanks,

 

Darrell

 

 

 

 


Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

Simon Jaeger
 

The way I see it, code factory's eloquence uses the same Eloquence DLL with the same product; it just does it in a more hacky and less reliable way. So if you pay for code factory Eloquence, you've legally licensed your copy; and if you use the unofficial Eloquence, you have stability and you can honestly say you've paid for it. I'm sure that's not how the law sees it, but it's just  my thoughts. I personally find that the code factory one is less reliable as well.


On 2017-03-12 11:49, David Griffith wrote:

I am sorry you have problems with Jaws also. Jaws 18 is fine for me at this end.

 

There is a known issue with Code Factory Eloquence  with NVDA.

I have seen several complaints from NVDA users on other lists than this which complain of the extreme delay with NVDA loading with Code Factory Eloquence. This caused some to recommend using the illegal NVDA Eloquence addon  as an alternative which drew an angry response from the person retailing Code Factory Eloquence in this country.

 

If was from this person retailing the Code Factory product in this country that I learnt the tip of amending sound properties in the Control Panel  as a partial  solution to the slow loading. He in turn had got this advice from Code Factry as I understand it.

 

Presumably as not all people have the same configurations in their Sound Control Panel applet  the  experience of people experiencing this delay may well vary.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: matthew dyer
Sent: 12 March 2017 18:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

 

Hi,

 

Using jfw 18 with elequence, I have this problem sop I don't think this is an NVDA problem.  JMT.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

On 03/12/2017 06:42 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 

Yes I have had this issue of extreme delayed start up along with the additional issue of NVDA and eloquence freezing in large  File Explorer windows.

 

This does not happen with the  illegal versions of Eloquence which is disappointing from a a Code Factory quality point of view.

 

I managed to improve matters  to some degree by going into the Sound Properties in Windows Control Panel, selecting my default sound device and turning off all the fancy affects like surround sound and just selecting just basic stereo as my output format.

 

This has had the affect of slightly diminishing the funkier music output from my PC but I am not now waiting upt to a minute  or more for NVDA to load.

 

I still get the problem of NVDA not responding with large file explorer windows  but what I have learnt is that if you turn Narrator on with Windows Enter temporarily you can navigate your file lists fine until NVDA wakes up and starts responding again. I just turn Narrator off when NVDA finally catches up.

 

David Griffith

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Darrell Shandrow Hilliker
Sent: 12 March 2017 10:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.

 

Hello Everyone,

 

I am experiencing a significant delay after launching NVDA with Code Factory’s Eloquence implementation selected as the speech synthesizer.

 

I am running on Windows 10.

 

Does anyone else experience this issue and, if so, what steps have resolved this issue?

 

Thanks,

 

Darrell