win 10 works great. Does anyone have that accessible link for those
that still need to upgrade from 7?

On 3/9/17, Angelo Sonnesso <asonnesso@gmail.com> wrote:

You certainly did.
Most of the driver issues in Windows 10 have been resolved, remember I
said
most.


73 N2DYN Angelo

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can I still get it for free

Who suggested Linux? I may have missed an episode here.
I know Sakina aand I doubt she would be interested in Linux. Even I
would
not go down that road as its anarchy access wise.
Apparently I've been told that the special VI offer is still obtainable
for
free, but my original comments about drivers for laptops still stands.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Angelo Sonnesso" <asonnesso@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can I still get it for free


You can certainly run Linux with a Windows like interface.

There are some differences, but they are not bad.

You do have the command line is you want to get geeky, but you don’t have
to

these days.

I personally like Vinux, designed for the Blind.

I must confess I am usually running Debian, or Ubuntu Linux.

Maybe you can give it a try in a virtual computer, and see what you
think.

I ran a CP/m machine for years, and you talk about a learning curve, but
you

make do with what is available.

Having said all of that, once you get Windows 10 setup it is much more
secure than ever.

It does get the job done.



73 N2DYN Angelo



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
F.
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 10:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can I still get it for free



This is why I wish I had the brains to learn Linux



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 9:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Can I still get it for free



Gene, Here is my reasonable take on this based on my more than 15 years
of

in depth experience not only of windows, but also other major operating
systems.

First, windows is a terrible product in any itteration. There isn't a
single thing windows does better than other operating systems except for
arketecture support. It's the most expensive operating system to
implement

if you remove hardware from the equation. Windows supports cheeper
hardware

than the competition but that doesn't negate the fact that windows itself
is

the highest priced operating system on the market. Windows is also more
expensive to maintain. In fact, an upgrade from windows seven to windows
10

takes about two hours time. If you have to fully patch windows seven sp1
it

takes between 3 and 6 hours depending on connection speed. If you're
paying

by the hour, which would you choose?

Windows is the least secure of all the major OS, further compounding the
astronomical maintanence cost and driving down productivity. I have not
yet

had to hack windows 10, but I have windows seven. In windows seven it is
common place for programs to allow themselves transparently through built
in

firewalling. It is also common place for programs to run as
administrator
without requiring the administrator account to be enabled or requiring an
administrator password. It is possible for programs to sircomvent the
notification system that works on the front line, and it's even possible
and

considered advisable by many people to turn the security notifications
off
altogether. In fact, it is possible when sitting at the keyboard of a
windows seven workstation to gain administrator access without logging in
at

all, to add, remove, or rename windows system files, to take command line
control of a workstation, and to perform any command line function
including

enabling or disabling the administrator account and changing account
credentials, all without logging in. Litterally any improvement would be
better than the attrocity that is windows seven security.

Microsoft interface design is terrible. Ribbons and tiles are only two
examples of design choices meant to set windows apart from competetors
but
had the effect of alienating users. Windows 10 does the smart thing and
returns the windows interface to a more desktop feel.

Windows only gets a refresh every three years or so. That means a lot
happens in the computer world between releases. Because the releases are
alternately pretty decent over all come terrible to the point of
uselessness, windows appeals to pundets who don't like change and want to
hault progress. Fine, but windows seven is coming up on 8 years old and
we

are still talking about support for windows xp being discontinued.
Nowhere

else in the world of operating systems are we talking about support for 8
year old software, and 17 year old software isn't even available for
download on pirate sites. Computers that shipped with windows 7 at the
time

of the release of windows 8 are now end of lifed, and yet, I was still
able

to buy and install a windows seven a month ago. The cost to developers
of
supporting four operating systems spanning 11 years: ten, eight, seven
and
vista, is astronomical, and you lucky end-user, get to pay the bill. The
cost of windows software over all is significantly higher than on any
other

operating system, and part of the reason is that windows users live in
the
past more than any other userbase.

Windows ten continues to be a free upgrade for current users of seven and
eight, long after it was supposed to switch to a completely paid product.
The minimum and recommended hardware configurations are similar to those
of

windows seven. Upgrading usually brings better plug and play hardware
support and other items under the hood that users would miss if they were
gone.

There are features I like in windows ten such as it's minimalist email
app
and it's improved tts voices. Then there are things I'm not too pleased
with such as the loss of control over windows update and the increased
relience on ribbons. True, we don't really have enough information about
this particular case to make a recommendation one way or the other, but
in
general, it is more than time to leave windows seven behind unlesss you
have

some substantial reason not to, such as loss of support for a crutial
piece

of hardware.

All upgrades on all systems require a bit of retraining for new features
or

fernature that moves, but that is part and parcel of computing. Windows
ten

is market tested, reliable and functional at this point. Staying with
windows seven just because is fine for now if that's your personal
choice,
but if you're supporting or recommending on a pro or semipro basis, the
recommendation has to be to upgrade at this point unless circomstances
dictate otherwise.

Best,

Erik

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On March 8, 2017 8:39:42 AM "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:

You have made a statement and not given any reasons supporting it. That
doesn't tell us anything except that you believe something. People may
have

reasons to upgrade from Windows 7 and Microsoft has recently claimed that
for security reasons, you should upgrade because Windows 7 is not secure
enough anymore because it isn't a new enough operating system to
incorporate

newer security features. I haven't seen any independent discussion
concerning this. But there are always problems that may occur when
updating

and in this case, the point was stated that this is an old computer. You
don't just upgrade. While many upgrades from Windows 7 go well, you
can't
assume they will. I don't think it’s a good idea to urge upgrading as a
general practice. Why is an upgrade being considered? What features, if
any, will be used or are desired by upgrading? Has the computer been
tested

for compatibility of the upgrade?



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: enes sarıbaş <mailto:enes.saribas@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 7:21 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Can I still get it for free



that is an extremely bad suggesstion. If you don't have a very good
reason
to not update, it is generally a good idea to update.



On 3/8/2017 4:04 PM, Gene wrote:

Is there a specific reason you want to use Windows 10? You can upgrade
for

free but I don't know the procedure. others, I expect, will advise you.
You say it's an old laptop. There is a Microsoft site you can use to
have
your computer evaluated to see if it is able to be upgraded. But unless
there is a specific feature you want, I would advise leaving well enough
alone.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Sakina <mailto:sakina.gable@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 6:53 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] Can I still get it for free



Hello gene and Friends,



I have got this passed down old laptop from a friend that has got window
7

Please forgive me for my terminology below

I wish to update or is called upgrade to window 10

Is it possible and can I still get the window 10 for free?

If yes, than please how do I go about.

I will be and always am grateful for your help and guidance.

Thanking you all again.

With best wishes

Sakina




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hello.
if you use gmail, do your work according to the gene's advice.
i use this way.
but do remember that you can upload at least 25 mb and also cant
upload exe and script files.

On 2/28/17, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@gmail.com> wrote:

There are way too many variables in this to fairly be able to answer
correctly at this point in time.

For example, What website are you using? What type file format are you
using, and is that filetype supported by the website? What version of
Windows are you running, and finally, this so called website you're using,
is it a webmail based system, or is it just a website in general you're
trying to attach a file to? You said e-mail, so I'm assuming! it's a webmail
type thing.

What e-mail client are you using for this purpose?

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Attach to email


You are evidently using a web site to send e-mail. You don't tell us
which one. What you are describing is not the standard way such dialogs
work. I assume that after you press the add attachment button, a dialog
comes up. If so, shift tab once or if necessary twice. You will be in a
list of folders and files as you are in My Computer. Move back through the
list with the back space. Move forward by pressing enter on something such
as a folder. Find the file you want and press enter.

I've almost never added an attachment using a web site but that should be
all you have to do. As I said, I've almost never done this but I believe
that you will have to allow time for the attachment to upload, if it is at
all large. I haven't done this enough to know if you are notified on the
page when the attachment has finished uploading.


From: Jenny Uy via Groups.Io
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 8:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Attach to email


I'm able to use NVDA to send emails, but when I need to attach something,
I need help, because I don't know how to navigate the 'upload a file' window
using the keyboard. What I need to do is:



- Navigate to the address bar so I can type in the folder address, such as
C:\downloads

- Navigate back to the list of files so I can search for the right file
and select it for upload.



Can anyone please tell me how I can do this?



Best regards,



Jenny Uy

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Good Evening All,


There's good news. I finally got the Pac Mate display working. I uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers. Works like a charm.


Thank you everyone, for your help.


Pauline




On 3/9/2017 9:45 PM, Pauline Smith wrote:

Good Evening,


I did find Freedom Scientific Braille displays in the the list. I have the setting for that as they were before (port set to automatic, cursor showing, and so forth). Display does not activate.



Pauline



On 3/9/2017 5:38 AM, Mallard wrote:

Great! Glad I could help!

Hope Pauline can solve her issues too.

Ciao,

Ollie






Il 08/03/2017 23:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland ha scritto:

I did. It works beautifully! Thank you for your help!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: Att. Malard: Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific
Braille Display in Windows 10

lol, Chris! Hope you managed to install and use it by now...


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 08/03/2017 22:08, Christopher-Mark Gilland ha scritto:
> Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! And again, yes! Please please
provide
> the driver! That would be a dream come true!
> clgilland07@gmail.com <mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>
<mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>
> Thanks a million!
> Chris.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:06 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific Braille
Display in
> Windows 10
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I'm usinga PacMate 40 display from Freedom Scientific, and
had no
> problems upgrading to Windows 10.
>
>
> I have the driver in my Dropbox, should anyone need it.
>
>
> Ask, and I'll shaer the link.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 08/03/2017 04:26, Gene ha scritto:
> > From what I've heard about Windows 10, it is more picky
about
> drivers
> > than earlier versions of Windows. I'm not a tech and I
may be
> wrong,
> > but I doubt there is a basis to say that Windows 8 or 8.1
drivers
> > should work in theory.
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 07, 2017 9:12 PM
> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific Braille
Display in
> > Windows 10
> >
> > Maybe there are spaciffic drivers for win10 if not win8
or 8.1
> drivers
> > should work in theory.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/03/2017 3:58 p.m., Pauline Smith wrote:
> > > Good Evening,
> > >
> > >
> > > Since the upgrade to Windows 10, I haven't been able
to use
> the computer
> > > with the FS braill display I am borrowing. I
uninstalled and
> > > reinstalled the display drivers and checked the setting
under
> > > Preferences/Braille Settings, then chose the appropriate
> display. Things
> > > still are not working. did I miss something?
> > >
> > >
> > > Pauline
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

hi simon.
thanks so much for your links.
i studied your first article and you mentioned its content correctly.

openoffice-vs.-libreoffice-whats-the-difference-and-which-should-you-use
and i study your other links.
libreoffice is very better and i only use libreoffice!

On 3/10/17, Simon Jaeger <simon@simonj.me> wrote:

Everyone I've ever spoken to has said that LibreOffice is better. They
have a rather odd licensing agreement: LibreOffice is a fork of Open
Office, but continues to implement Open Office's new features. On the
other hand, Open Office cannot do the same with changes made to
LibreOffice. This means that any accessibility improvements made
specifically in LibreOffice will not necessarily be made in Open Office.
I may be wrong about this as it's been some time since I've researched
it, and both programs can happily exist on the same system
simultaneously, so you have nothing to lose by trying both. The last
time I used either of them, it was LibreOffice. I found that the writer
app was fairly good, although table navigation was not as smooth as
Microsoft Word. The calc app (equivalent to Excel or Numbers) caused
errors in NVDA sometimes, and focus would inconsistently shift to make
navigating with the arrows difficult. I do not know how much of this has
changed, as I use Office 2016 now, but I'd be interested to hear about
any discoveries made by people on this list.


These may also be useful reading. Please note that this is all from one
google search, and does not reflect my opinions or experiences:

OpenOffice vs. LibreOffice: What’s the Difference and Which Should You
Use?
https://www.howtogeek.com/187663/openoffice-vs.-libreoffice-whats-the-difference-and-which-should-you-use/

Why you should ditch OpenOffice and use the free LibreOffice suite
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2977112/software-productivity/why-you-should-ditch-openoffice-and-use-the-free-libreoffice-suite.html

LibreOffice Accessibility
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/accessibility/


On 2017-03-09 19:24, Brian Vogel wrote:

Marv,

Both are 100% capable of opening any of the iterations of
Microsoft Office Word documents. As to accessibility, I'll let others
speak to the details, but both are accessible. I believe I've
generally heard that Open Office is slightly more accessible, but I
doubt there is a huge difference between the two. Those who've used
either or both on a regular basis with a screen reader are better able
to make that call.


--
*/Brian/*

/I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" //that I
need to respect in any way./

~ */Ellen Evans/*/, /soc.motss/, /11/6/2004

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org

Everyone I've ever spoken to has said that LibreOffice is better. They
have a rather odd licensing agreement: LibreOffice is a fork of Open
Office, but continues to implement Open Office's new features. On the
other hand, Open Office cannot do the same with changes made to
LibreOffice. This means that any accessibility improvements made
specifically in LibreOffice will not necessarily be made in Open Office.
I may be wrong about this as it's been some time since I've researched
it, and both programs can happily exist on the same system
simultaneously, so you have nothing to lose by trying both. The last
time I used either of them, it was LibreOffice. I found that the writer
app was fairly good, although table navigation was not as smooth as
Microsoft Word. The calc app (equivalent to Excel or Numbers) caused
errors in NVDA sometimes, and focus would inconsistently shift to make
navigating with the arrows difficult. I do not know how much of this has
changed, as I use Office 2016 now, but I'd be interested to hear about
any discoveries made by people on this list.


These may also be useful reading. Please note that this is all from one
google search, and does not reflect my opinions or experiences:

OpenOffice vs. LibreOffice: What’s the Difference and Which Should You
Use?
https://www.howtogeek.com/187663/openoffice-vs.-libreoffice-whats-the-difference-and-which-should-you-use/

Why you should ditch OpenOffice and use the free LibreOffice suite
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2977112/software-productivity/why-you-should-ditch-openoffice-and-use-the-free-libreoffice-suite.html

LibreOffice Accessibility
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/accessibility/


On 2017-03-09 19:24, Brian Vogel wrote:

Marv,

Both are 100% capable of opening any of the iterations of
Microsoft Office Word documents. As to accessibility, I'll let others
speak to the details, but both are accessible. I believe I've
generally heard that Open Office is slightly more accessible, but I
doubt there is a huge difference between the two. Those who've used
either or both on a regular basis with a screen reader are better able
to make that call.


--
*/Brian/*

/I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" //that I
need to respect in any way./

~ */Ellen Evans/*/, /soc.motss/, /11/6/2004

Hi, for me it's shift F ten.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marvin
kotler
Sent: March-09-17 8:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] which key replaces the application key?



Good evening list. I had a senior moment and deleted a message related to
the application key; so, I need to know what takes the apps key place;
thanks in advance.

Marv

There is often no best and greatest of whatever that is stated about. The
only way I am aware of to speed up Firefox is to do something like turn off
JAVA Scripts or use a script blocker. Turning off downloading of images may
speed up things a little and it's a good idea because images are used at
times to spread malware. Are you aware of the consequences of blocking
scripts or turning off scripts in the browser? Unless you are, you
shouldn't play with turning off or blocking scripts until you know more
about the subject.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 2:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading progress down loads in google chrome


What changes did you make in firefox?



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 4:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading progress down loads in google chrome

hello.
i set my firefox and changed many settings and options.
firefox is extremely fast because of the changed which i made in its
settings and i dont use any browser other than firefox!
firefox is the best and greatest!

On 3/1/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

youtube is a lot better now its fully html5



On 1/03/2017 12:02 p.m., Lenron wrote:

I have to agree for most things I just use firefox accept for youtube
and a few other things. Like audible

On 2/28/17, brian <sackriderbrian45@gmail.com> wrote:

Why are we stuck with only one brouser that will read
progress bars/? It looks like nvda still has some work to do to
make more brousers more accessable. I don't like firefox because
it's way to slow. Webie will alwaysbe the bestbrouser for the
blind. Why is it so hard to make brousers that read the progress
bars? If we are going to change brousers then we need to have more
accessable brousers that will do what we them to do.

Brian Sackrider


On 2/28/2017 5:36 PM, Gene wrote:

That's why I say that for many purposes other than browsing,
Firefox is a better choice. I don't want almost everything
displayed as web pages from settings to history. I don't know how
it is for sighted people, but for blind people, this is somewhat
cumbersome. Also, awhile back, Chrome stopped honoring quick
browsing commands in the settings interface which is a web page
interface. Has this been corrected? What this means is that you
can't, for example, make a change and then use the letter b to jump
to the done button. You have to tab through all the rest of the
settings.
It may be that for a lot of browsing, Chrome is faster or somewhat
faster. I haven't compared, thogh I've seen a few people say it
is. But one reason I still use firefox as my main browser is to
avoid having so many interfaces be rendered as web pages.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

*From:* Greg Wocher <mailto:gwocher@gwocher.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 28, 2017 2:38 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] reading progress down loads in google chrome

Hello,
Once you have hit control plus J tab a time or two and you should
land on a heading that says today. This is the downloads you have
done today. The first one under this heading should be your current
download. If you arrow down a bit you will hear a line that has the
path where the download is going. This line will also have the
speed of your download. If you go down one more line you should
hear the percentage. It will be read as a normal number like 34. I
don’t think it says percent but this is the percent of your download.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On Feb 28, 2017, at 1:21 PM, brian <sackriderbrian45@gmail.com

<mailto:sackriderbrian45@gmail.com>> wrote:

I did try thatbut I did not hear any progress percentages. in
ie

11 it does but not in chrome.

Brian Sackrideer






On 2/28/2017 1:18 PM, Greg Wocher wrote:

Hello,
After starting the download you need to hit control plus J and
this

will take you to the downloads window. In this window you can see
the progress of your downloads.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On Feb 28, 2017, at 1:10 PM, brian <sackriderbrian45@gmail.com

<mailto:sackriderbrian45@gmail.com>> wrote:

Does google chrome read progress in downloads if so how do you
do

that. I am using nvda 2017.1 and I just tried to down load all
things radio podcast but it did not say the percentages I tried
control j and I also tried save as but nothing.

Brian Sackrider

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On Mar 9, 2017, at 11:02 PM, marvin kotler <m.kotler53@gmail.com> wrote:

Good evening list. I had a senior moment and deleted a message related to the application key; so, I need to know what takes the apps key place; thanks in advance.
Marv

Good Evening,


I did find Freedom Scientific Braille displays in the the list. I have the setting for that as they were before (port set to automatic, cursor showing, and so forth). Display does not activate.



Pauline



On 3/9/2017 5:38 AM, Mallard wrote:

Great! Glad I could help!

Hope Pauline can solve her issues too.

Ciao,

Ollie






Il 08/03/2017 23:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland ha scritto:

I did. It works beautifully! Thank you for your help!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: Att. Malard: Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific
Braille Display in Windows 10

lol, Chris! Hope you managed to install and use it by now...


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 08/03/2017 22:08, Christopher-Mark Gilland ha scritto:
> Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! And again, yes! Please please
provide
> the driver! That would be a dream come true!
> clgilland07@gmail.com <mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>
<mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>
> Thanks a million!
> Chris.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:06 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific Braille
Display in
> Windows 10
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I'm usinga PacMate 40 display from Freedom Scientific, and
had no
> problems upgrading to Windows 10.
>
>
> I have the driver in my Dropbox, should anyone need it.
>
>
> Ask, and I'll shaer the link.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 08/03/2017 04:26, Gene ha scritto:
> > From what I've heard about Windows 10, it is more picky
about
> drivers
> > than earlier versions of Windows. I'm not a tech and I
may be
> wrong,
> > but I doubt there is a basis to say that Windows 8 or 8.1
drivers
> > should work in theory.
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 07, 2017 9:12 PM
> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific Braille
Display in
> > Windows 10
> >
> > Maybe there are spaciffic drivers for win10 if not win8
or 8.1
> drivers
> > should work in theory.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/03/2017 3:58 p.m., Pauline Smith wrote:
> > > Good Evening,
> > >
> > >
> > > Since the upgrade to Windows 10, I haven't been able
to use
> the computer
> > > with the FS braill display I am borrowing. I
uninstalled and
> > > reinstalled the display drivers and checked the setting
under
> > > Preferences/Braille Settings, then chose the appropriate
> display. Things
> > > still are not working. did I miss something?
> > >
> > >
> > > Pauline
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

Marv,

          Both are 100% capable of opening any of the iterations of Microsoft Office Word documents.  As to accessibility, I'll let others speak to the details, but both are accessible.  I believe I've generally heard that Open Office is slightly more accessible, but I doubt there is a huge difference between the two.  Those who've used either or both on a regular basis with a screen reader are better able to make that call.

--
Brian

    I don't find an uninformed hatred a "principled position" that I need to respect in any way.

        ~ Ellen Evans, soc.motss, 11/6/2004

Great! Glad I could help!

Hope Pauline can solve her issues too.

Ciao,

Ollie






Il 08/03/2017 23:49, Christopher-Mark Gilland ha scritto:

I did. It works beautifully! Thank you for your help!
---
Christopher Gilland
Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
http://www.gshministry.org
(980) 500-9575

----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Sent:* Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:25 PM
*Subject:* Re: Att. Malard: Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific
Braille Display in Windows 10

lol, Chris! Hope you managed to install and use it by now...


Ciao,

Ollie





Il 08/03/2017 22:08, Christopher-Mark Gilland ha scritto:
> Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes! And again, yes! Please please
provide
> the driver! That would be a dream come true!
> clgilland07@gmail.com <mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>
<mailto:clgilland07@gmail.com>
> Thanks a million!
> Chris.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> Co-founder of Genuine Safe Haven Ministries
> http://www.gshministry.org
> (980) 500-9575
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:06 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific Braille
Display in
> Windows 10
>
> Hello,
>
>
> I'm usinga PacMate 40 display from Freedom Scientific, and
had no
> problems upgrading to Windows 10.
>
>
> I have the driver in my Dropbox, should anyone need it.
>
>
> Ask, and I'll shaer the link.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 08/03/2017 04:26, Gene ha scritto:
> > From what I've heard about Windows 10, it is more picky
about
> drivers
> > than earlier versions of Windows. I'm not a tech and I
may be
> wrong,
> > but I doubt there is a basis to say that Windows 8 or 8.1
drivers
> > should work in theory.
> > Gene
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Shaun Everiss <mailto:sm.everiss@gmail.com>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 07, 2017 9:12 PM
> > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Freedom Scientific Braille
Display in
> > Windows 10
> >
> > Maybe there are spaciffic drivers for win10 if not win8
or 8.1
> drivers
> > should work in theory.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/03/2017 3:58 p.m., Pauline Smith wrote:
> > > Good Evening,
> > >
> > >
> > > Since the upgrade to Windows 10, I haven't been able to
use
> the computer
> > > with the FS braill display I am borrowing. I
uninstalled and
> > > reinstalled the display drivers and checked the setting
under
> > > Preferences/Braille Settings, then chose the appropriate
> display. Things
> > > still are not working. did I miss something?
> > >
> > >
> > > Pauline
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>