Re: Accessible Application Updater
Kevin Cussick
I think filehippo.com
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On 12/03/2017 22:22, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Where does one get the file hippo manager you speak of?
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
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Where does one get the file hippo manager you speak
of?
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Re: Accessible Application Updater
Kevin Cussick
fare point, but then again the file hippo program is just the same I think?
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On 12/03/2017 10:25, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Like most of these though, it can only update apps that exist on the site.
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Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
Arlene
It also depends on your system as well. I hope I’m wrong! For some Elequence may respond quickly while for some it’s slow to respond! I have it in jaws 14 and I use E speak for NVDA. Now, Mind you I don’t have Jaws 18 but if it responds no problem then you may have a good system. I could be lying!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: March-12-17 11:49 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
I am sorry you have problems with Jaws also. Jaws 18 is fine for me at this end.
There is a known issue with Code Factory Eloquence with NVDA. I have seen several complaints from NVDA users on other lists than this which complain of the extreme delay with NVDA loading with Code Factory Eloquence. This caused some to recommend using the illegal NVDA Eloquence addon as an alternative which drew an angry response from the person retailing Code Factory Eloquence in this country.
If was from this person retailing the Code Factory product in this country that I learnt the tip of amending sound properties in the Control Panel as a partial solution to the slow loading. He in turn had got this advice from Code Factry as I understand it.
Presumably as not all people have the same configurations in their Sound Control Panel applet the experience of people experiencing this delay may well vary.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: matthew dyer
Hi,
Using jfw 18 with elequence, I have this problem sop I don't think this is an NVDA problem. JMT.
Matthew
On 03/12/2017 06:42 AM, David Griffith wrote:
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Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
Simon Jaeger
The way I see it, code factory's eloquence uses the same
Eloquence DLL with the same product; it just does it in a more
hacky and less reliable way. So if you pay for code factory
Eloquence, you've legally licensed your copy; and if you use the
unofficial Eloquence, you have stability and you can honestly say
you've paid for it. I'm sure that's not how the law sees it, but
it's just my thoughts. I personally find that the code factory
one is less reliable as well.
On 2017-03-12 11:49, David Griffith
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Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
David Griffith
I am sorry you have problems with Jaws also. Jaws 18 is fine for me at this end.
There is a known issue with Code Factory Eloquence with NVDA. I have seen several complaints from NVDA users on other lists than this which complain of the extreme delay with NVDA loading with Code Factory Eloquence. This caused some to recommend using the illegal NVDA Eloquence addon as an alternative which drew an angry response from the person retailing Code Factory Eloquence in this country.
If was from this person retailing the Code Factory product in this country that I learnt the tip of amending sound properties in the Control Panel as a partial solution to the slow loading. He in turn had got this advice from Code Factry as I understand it.
Presumably as not all people have the same configurations in their Sound Control Panel applet the experience of people experiencing this delay may well vary.
David Griffith
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: matthew dyer
Sent: 12 March 2017 18:27 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
Hi,
Using jfw 18 with elequence, I have this problem sop I don't think this is an NVDA problem. JMT.
Matthew
On 03/12/2017 06:42 AM, David Griffith wrote:
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Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
Arlene
Oh! do you think it’s a synth problem? That eloquence is used in NVDA and Jaws.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: March-12-17 11:27 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
Hi,
Using jfw 18 with elequence, I have this problem sop I don't think this is an NVDA problem. JMT.
Matthew
On 03/12/2017 06:42 AM, David Griffith wrote:
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Re: Eloquence delay after launching NVDA.
matthew dyer
Hi,
Using jfw 18 with elequence, I have this problem sop I don't think this is an NVDA problem. JMT.
Matthew
On 03/12/2017 06:42 AM, David Griffith
wrote:
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Sam Bushman
I just discovered something interesting. The message starts with browse mode off, if I press NVDA-space it turns browse mode on and the message works. So, for some reason the message doesn’t turn browse mode on like it should.
Is there a way to search in a message in outlook like NVDA-ctrl-f does on a web page?
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
I don't know how you might do it. As I said, you need to forward it to yourself so that you can see what happens without it being sent to the list.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi Gene,
Great point, I can read the message that came from the list just fine. That is the same as a forward. We now need to see how I can get the message to others to test in its original state. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Also, I don't think forwarding the message would change it but I would suggest forwarding it to yourself. We need to rule out the possibility that the original doesn't read properly in your program using NVDA but the forward may for some reason. there are too many unknown variables to draw even tentative conclusions now.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi Jene,
I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird. I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that. Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.
My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Gene
I don't know how you might do it. As I said,
you need to forward it to yourself so that you can see what happens without it
being sent to the list.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com Hi Gene,
Great point, I can read the message that came from the list just fine. That is the same as a forward. We now need to see how I can get the message to others to test in its original state. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Also, I don't think forwarding the message would change it but I would suggest forwarding it to yourself. We need to rule out the possibility that the original doesn't read properly in your program using NVDA but the forward may for some reason. there are too many unknown variables to draw even tentative conclusions now.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi Jene,
I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird. I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that. Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.
My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Gene
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Gene
I can read it as html in the old version of Windows
Live Mail.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com Hi Gene,
That is correct, so, we need testers to read in outlook / office 365 latest version like I stated I was doing. We need to have them use html as to do our best to duplicate and see what happens. If they get the same results then we can have a duplicatable experience. Now that we know reading in just text works we can safely say that is not part of the discussion. Now that we hear it works in thunderbird then next step is to see if the tester was using html. We need to narrow down the details and work on a duplicatable example that then can be resolved.
Can you please test in html mode to see what happens to you?
Thanks for all your help. Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
we don't know if there is a general problem with NVDA. There are too many variables. Each person who reads the message must be reading mail as html. We need reports from people who are doing so and who are using different e-mail programs, including yours. We know that one person saw the message using Thunderbird. We don't know if the person was reading mail as html. I read the message using Windows Live Mail but I wasn't reading mail as html. Conditions must be duplicated in such a test.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi Jene,
I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird. I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that. Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.
My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Sam Bushman
Hi Gene,
Great point, I can read the message that came from the list just fine. That is the same as a forward. We now need to see how I can get the message to others to test in its original state. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:16 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Also, I don't think forwarding the message would change it but I would suggest forwarding it to yourself. We need to rule out the possibility that the original doesn't read properly in your program using NVDA but the forward may for some reason. there are too many unknown variables to draw even tentative conclusions now.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi Jene,
I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird. I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that. Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.
My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Sam Bushman
Hi Gene,
That is correct, so, we need testers to read in outlook / office 365 latest version like I stated I was doing. We need to have them use html as to do our best to duplicate and see what happens. If they get the same results then we can have a duplicatable experience. Now that we know reading in just text works we can safely say that is not part of the discussion. Now that we hear it works in thunderbird then next step is to see if the tester was using html. We need to narrow down the details and work on a duplicatable example that then can be resolved.
Can you please test in html mode to see what happens to you?
Thanks for all your help. Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:10 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
we don't know if there is a general problem with NVDA. There are too many variables. Each person who reads the message must be reading mail as html. We need reports from people who are doing so and who are using different e-mail programs, including yours. We know that one person saw the message using Thunderbird. We don't know if the person was reading mail as html. I read the message using Windows Live Mail but I wasn't reading mail as html. Conditions must be duplicated in such a test.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi Jene,
I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird. I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that. Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.
My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Gene
Also, I don't think forwarding the message would
change it but I would suggest forwarding it to yourself. We need to rule
out the possibility that the original doesn't read properly in your program
using NVDA but the forward may for some reason. there are too many unknown
variables to draw even tentative conclusions now.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com Hi Jene,
I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird. I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that. Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.
My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Gene
we don't know if there is a general problem with
NVDA. There are too many variables. Each person who reads the
message must be reading mail as html. We need reports from people who are
doing so and who are using different e-mail programs, including yours. We
know that one person saw the message using Thunderbird. We don't know if
the person was reading mail as html. I read the message using Windows Live
Mail but I wasn't reading mail as html. Conditions must be duplicated in
such a test.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com Hi Jene,
I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird. I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that. Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.
My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Sam Bushman
Hi Jene,
I can read it in other ways. I can read it just fine in Window Eyes. Because of my email others have now confirmed they can read it in thunderbird. I don’t want to change to text email because then links and other formatting become broken when we do that. Meaning it stripps photos etc. if you forward those emails to others you have completely destroyed the look/feel of a message.
My main goal is to provide duplicatable results that might help improve NVDA’s ability to deal with such content.
Thanks, Sam
Sam Bushman LibertyRoundTable.com 801-756-9133
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 10:42 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Gene
Yes. Try reading it in other ways. I
don't use Outlook but as I recall, there is an option to read the message in a
browser. You may also be reading mail as html. If you change to read
messages in plain text, you may be able to read it. I don't know if this
is still the case, but for quite some time, some html messages weren't read
correctly in Outlook for technical reasons.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Jacob Kruger
Seems fine in thunderbird.
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2017-03-12 18:00, Sam Bushman wrote:
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Your ChangeAlert for www.yourdomain.com
Sam Bushman
Hi All,
Can you read the below message with ease? I can’t read it in outlook live 365 for business …
Thanks for checking on this for me.
From: CodeGuard Team [mailto:notifications@...]
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Re: omnipage 18
The Gamages
Hello,
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I have now installed Omnipage 18, I have got as far as scanning a document, but it is in a format not readable to a screen reader, I've tried going to the process menu then perform OCR, and tried all the options in the sub menu with no success. Can you tell me what you do to convert this scanned image to a word document or something readable? Best Regards, Jim.
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From: Simone Dal Maso Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 1:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] omnipage 18 Yes, the good thing is that it is accessible, while for example Finereader is quite complicate because you can't review the text. Il 03/03/2017 12:49, The Gamages ha scritto: Hello,
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