On 6/6/20, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:

Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.
I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory,
mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.
After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and
we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people),
CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”
Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical
support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department
and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?
It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have
refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me
about the integrity of the organization.
I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with
Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via
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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@att.net
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

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Hello! In private and to the group.



You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by
CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the
add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the
voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
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Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
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[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.

 

You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.

Grant Metcalf

Email: the.gems@...

 

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louis Maher
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office Repair for Outlook Issue

 

Hello Jane,

 

I am not sure about your outlook issue.  One thing you might try is to do an online repair of office.

 

Close all office applications, hit the windows key, type programs and features, hit enter on remove applications, tab to the search field, enter office, tab to the list of programs, arrow down to Microsoft office, hit enter, tab to modify, and do an online repair from that point.  You might call the disability help desk to help you do this.

 

After the repair, you might have to put your Excel patch back.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh wonderful, Louis, thanks so much! That worked like a charm!  Now I can edit cells as usual!  Thanank you!

Now today’s problem is that when I’m in outlook, typing a message, NVDA freezes and I have to hit control-alt-N to get it back, and sometimes I lose the message I was typing.  It worked fine till I had a guy from Microsoft accessibility yesterday who wanted to reinstall my NVDA to fix the Excel problem, and ever since then it’s done this.  I even had to go back into Jaws to tyhpe a message today!  But I haven’t given up yet.

 

Jane

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 4:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Editing an Excel cell with a Braille display

 

Oh wonderful, Louis, thanks so much! That worked like a charm!  Now I can edit cells as usual!  Thanank you!

Now today’s problem is that when I’m in outlook, typing a message, NVDA freezes and I have to hit control-alt-N to get it back, and sometimes I lose the message I was typing.  It worked fine till I had a guy from Microsoft accessibility yesterday who wanted to reinstall my NVDA to fix the Excel problem, and ever since then it’s done this.  I even had to go back into Jaws to tyhpe a message today!  But I haven’t given up yet.

 

Jane

 

 

Hettie,

            Hello and welcome to the NVDA Group.   Specific questions on how to use Audacity itself are not on-topic for the main NVDA Group.  I will give the e-mail addresses for our Chat Subgroup, where they are appropriate, in a few moments.  I wanted to make sure you had membership established in the NVDA Group since you must have that before you can join the Chat Subgroup.

             I know we have (or have had, the group always has some flux) members who are active Audacity users.  There also appears to be an unofficial NVDA add-on for Audacity (https://github.com/paulber007/AudacityNVDAAddon)  but it does not appear to be under active support and would not be compatible with the current version of NVDA.

             I thought there was a group on Groups.io for blind users of Audacity, but I can't find it.  I'm almost certain one exists, so I'll allow someone else to point you in its direction.

             Should you wish to ask specific questions about using Audacity itself.  That should be done on our Chat Subgroup.  Here is the vital information for that:

To join:  chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

 

To unsubscribe:  chat+unsubscribe@nvda.groups.io

 

To receive a message containing the group description, and a list of these commands:  chat+help@nvda.groups.io

 

To stop receiving messages via email (you may still read messages on the Web):  chat+nomail@nvda.groups.io

This can also be used to put a vacation stop on group messages, then use one of the addresses below to resume delivery in the format of your choice.

 

To receive each group messages individually:  chat+single@nvda.groups.io

This is the default delivery unless you send a message to one of the addresses that follows.

 

To receive group messages in an HTML formatted digest:  chat+fulldigest@nvda.groups.io

 

To receive group messages in a plain text digest:  chat+digest@nvda.groups.io

 

To receive a daily summary instead of individual messages:  chat+summary@nvda.groups.io

 

To receive only special messages:  chat+special@nvda.groups.io

  

To contact the group owner(s):  chat+owner@nvda.groups.io

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 06 June 2020 09:54
To: NVDA SUPPORT
Subject: [nvda] sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 2:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

 

Hi Jane,

You may also install an addon for Outlook which gives you lots of the Window-Eyes capabilities back for Outlook. Please see here:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/outlookExtended.en.html

 

 

cheers,

  Ralf

 

Thanks, that worked fine!

 

 

 

Hi, Jane,

 

I haven't worked with exel using NVDA but asfar as opening attachments in outlook, you shift tab to the attachment and hit control right arrow. You'll hear the word "message". Hit the context key and arrow down to penattachment. Hit enter to open it.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

Hi everyone,

I’m new to this list, and so grateful to have found it!  I was a very happy WindowEyes user and came to Jaws very unwillingly, and have never liked it.  Just started using NVDA today, and it seems a lot like WindowEyes, so I think I’ll be very happy!

 

But I have two questions:  How do I access attachments in Outlook.  Typically, when on a message with an attachment, I’d shift tab to the attachment and hit enter on it, but that doesn’t seem to work with NVDA.

 

My other pressing issue is reading titles with Excel.  I live in Excel, so this could be a deal-breaker.  With smaller spreadsheets, I’ve gotten the titles to read pretty well, but I have some spreadsheets that have 17,000 or more rows, and NVDA reads the first row of data sometimes as column titles.  Is there a limit on the size spreadsheet NVDA can comfortably handle?

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated. 

 

Jane Carona

Jane.e.carona@...

 

On 6/4/20, ss sarfudeen via groups.io <sssarfudeen=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hi Brian and Sarah,

I would like to be able to make/answer a Hangouts video call and and
also reply to conversations in my contacts. Currently, I am attempting
to do this only with a single participant. When I open the Hangouts
app using Chrome, I am able to see that I am logged in to my Google
account but unable to click the Allow Camera button and answer a video
call. In the same way, I am not able to reply or send a message to a
particular contact. I tried the above using the Firefox browser as
well but with no success. By the way, I have not received a direct
link to join a meeting or a video call.

Another issue I am facing with Google Chrome is that when I open a
page or switch pages, I am unable to go back to the previous page
using the Alt and the left arrow keys.
I hope I have provided some clarity about the issues I am encountering
to seek more guidance.

With thanks and regards,

Sultana



On 6/4/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 11:00 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

For me all I did was click the link I was given, clicked join, allowed
my
camera, and that's about it.

I have seen this for Google Meet, as it's a competitor to Zoom and others
like it, but not for Hangouts, which is a separate thing. I do know that
links are used when establishing video calls, though, as I do that on
occasion, but have only ever done so with myself and a single additional
participant.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 06 June 2020 09:54
To: NVDA SUPPORT
Subject: [nvda] sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

 

On 6/6/20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:

Has anyone gotten this command to work?

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louis Maher
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 7:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Editing an Excel cell with a Braille display

 

Hello Jane,

 

For Excel, try this.

You can try unchecking the box which says “allow editing directly in cells”.  In Excel 365, do this:

Open an Excel spreadsheet. 

Type alt + f. Up arrow to options, hit enter. Down arrow to advanced. Tab until you find the box which says “allow editing directly in cells. Uncheck that

box. Shift + Tab until you reach OK. Hit enter.

 

As for the capitalization pitch indicator, I have noticed that some voices do not show the capitalization shift change.  For this reason, in the Speech option, I have chosen One Core Voices, and I use Microsoft Zira.

That voice does give me a capitalization pitch change.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I promise this is the last question for today!  But I notice that when I want to edit a cell in Excel, and hit F2, my braille display (a very old Focus 80) doesn’t track, and the cursor routing keys don’t work and my edits don’t show up until I hit enter.  Do I have some setting wrong?  Or is this a problem with NVDA and the Focus.  Also, my capital alerts aren’t working, with no differentiation for capitalized letters, even though I have it set in settings to notify me with pitch of any capitalization changes.

 

I’ve been playing with this most of the day now, and I think I’m going off to read a book.  I bet everyone’s breathing a sigh of relief!

 

Jane Carona

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 6:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

 

Great to meet you, jane!

 

I appreciate the difficulty with wading through full data in the cell before getting the feedback on which column is in focus. I believe there is pressure on the programmers to bring in a change to allow the user to choose whether to have column title before the data or after.

 

Have a look through this discussion on Github:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4629

 

NVDA is an ongoing project and bits are being developed all the time. It seems there was early pressure to give the data before the column title but that might have been because cell coordinates were also getting in the way.  It is a good idea to get familiar with Github so that you can raise issues with the developers and build a case within the community of developers and users.

 

I am puzzled by your problem on the second worksheet. Could you forward it to me privately  at my email below and let me see what is happening? I promise to destroy it after I understand what is happening and will, of course, keep it private.

 

There is no logical reason why the column title would drop to the second row without actually being assigned to that row before the first row was inserted. Guessing is futile! I would need to run through the actual table.

 

Alternatively, you could ring my mobile in Facetime or WhatsApp and I could walk through the issue with you with NVDA turned on and speaking.

 

 

Hi Cearbhall,

Thanks so much for writing, it’s so great to talk to someone who uses Excel as much as I do!  Let me see if I can explain my problem:

 

I have two spreadsheets that are the same, except that one has books a-l and the other has books m-z, each is over ten thousand records.  One spreadsheet reads fine, with the titles in row 1 and the data starting in row 2.  In the other spreadsheet, moving across, some of the column titles read fine, but about half of them, the NVDA reads the data from row 2, the first line of data, as the title.  I followed what the user guide said and put my cursor in b1 and hit insert-shift-C, and that worked for most of my spreadsheets, but not for this one.  So I plunked the data from the bad spreadsheet onto the bottom of the good one, so now I have one spreadsheet with 29207 records in it, and the column titles read fine.

 

My problem now is that I wish I could get NVDA to read the column title before the data instead of after it.  Is there any way to do that?

 

Thanks so much for your help!

 

Happy Excelling!

 

Jane

 

 

 

Hi Jane,

 

I am a keen user of Excel with NVDA. I use it almost every day. I would be happy to answer any queries you have.

 

I wonder exactly what problem you are finding with column headings?

 

I note that you start your columns one column in and one row down from the top. That is no problem. Place your cursor on cell b2 and press NVDA+shift+c. This will fix b2 as the start of the column headings. If there is a break in row 2, the column title will stop being spoken with the last column before the break. Simply move the cursor on row 2 to the right until you get to the first filled cell after the break and press control+shift+c again. This will set the whole row to be the next set of column headings until the next empty cell in row 2. Repeat this until all the column cells are enabled as column headings. Each column will be echoed even if you are moving on the 1048576th row of the table.

 

The trick is to watch the gaps.

 

Let me know if this solves your difficulty and let me know if I can answer any more questions for you! I write complex formulas and macros with no problem using NVDA. It is a great product!

 

 

I don’t use row titles, just column titles in row 1.  I usually have column A blank, just because that’s how I did it in WindowEyes.  So my data starts in B2, and goes from b2 to p17288.  Not sure what else I can do at this point.  I’d sure hate to have to go back to jaws, but if I can’t read the column titles of my big spreadsheets, I may have to.

 

 

On 5 Jun 2020, at 19:18, Austin Pinto wrote:

On 6/6/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:

OBS is ***not*** I repeat ***not*** a video editor. But photoes is very
accessible with NVDA. I can split videos, extract clips, well that one
takes work, apply music and voiceovers to my video etc.

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On 5 Jun 2020, at 17:32, Robert Kingett wrote:

So first of all, this shouldn't be here, but in the chat sub group.
Secondly, I really think the mods or community should open up this
wiki so we all can just add resources whenever we feel like it, it
would cut down on emails like this. Anyway, this should be moved to
the chat subgroup, not here, but here's a few suggestions. Links
aren't provided because I'm on the mobile app, so don't have links.

1. Debut Video Capture.
2. Built in video editor for Windows 10, found in, photos.
3. Win Cam.
4. OBS. Open Broadcaster software. Not as accessible as the others.
5. Virtual Dub.

On 5 Jun 2020, at 17:32, Robert Kingett wrote:

So first of all, this shouldn't be here, but in the chat sub group. Secondly, I really think the mods or community should open up this wiki so we all can just add resources whenever we feel like it, it would cut down on emails like this. Anyway, this should be moved to the chat subgroup, not here, but here's a few suggestions. Links aren't provided because I'm on the mobile app, so don't have links.

1. Debut Video Capture.
2. Built in video editor for Windows 10, found in, photos.
3. Win Cam.
4. OBS. Open Broadcaster software. Not as accessible as the others.
5. Virtual Dub.

On 5 Jun 2020, at 17:17, Austin Pinto wrote:

hi all.
some of you have a youtube channel.
how do you edit videos?
which is the accessible video editor software you use with nvda?

On 6/5/20, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com> wrote:

So first of all, this shouldn't be here, but in the chat sub group.
Secondly, I really think the mods or community should open up this wiki so
we all can just add resources whenever we feel like it, it would cut down on
emails like this. Anyway, this should be moved to the chat subgroup, not
here, but here's a few suggestions. Links aren't provided because I'm on the
mobile app, so don't have links.

1. Debut Video Capture.
2. Built in video editor for Windows 10, found in, photos.
3. Win Cam.
4. OBS. Open Broadcaster software. Not as accessible as the others.
5. Virtual Dub.