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Re: sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

Brennen Kinch
 

Remind me I forgot what is C cleaner

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io <rmkuzma@...> wrote:

Very nicely done,

Forgot about this utility completely,

Downloaded and installed it and it is one hundred accessible with nvda so far.

One side note, on the install screen tab around and uncheck install google chrome as your default browser if you don’t want it.

Thanks again

Rich

Re: NVDA and repeating clickible

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Works perfect.

Thanks for the help.

On 11/20/2016 1:21 PM, Jacques wrote:
Hi, this is a setting that can be toggled on or off. Document settings with NVDA+ctrl+d, option is called "Clickable" second last option in this dialogue.

HTH


Jacques

On Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:11, William Sallander wrote:
Hello everyone:


I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything
seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.

When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go
through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why
it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.

I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find
out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.

Any suggestions?





Re: NVDA and repeating clickible

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

Hi, this is a setting that can be toggled on or off. Document settings with NVDA+ctrl+d, option is called "Clickable" second last option in this dialogue.

HTH


Jacques

On Sunday, 20 November 2016 20:11, William Sallander wrote:
Hello everyone:


I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything
seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.

When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go
through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why
it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.

I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find
out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.

Any suggestions?




NVDA and repeating clickible

William Sallander <wsallander@...>
 

Hello everyone:


I've been using NVDA along with Google Chrome and Firefox. Everything seems to work just fine except for one annoying issue.

When I'm in browse mode, I will arrow down through the page and as I go through, NVDA keeps repeating the word "clickable". I'm pretty sure why it might do it, but I'm wondering if there is a way to tone it down.

I'd like to see if this can be fixed because it takes a while to find out what link I'm currently on and slows me down some what.

Any suggestions?

sea cleaner is accessible / thanks

Richard Kuzma
 

Very nicely done,

Forgot about this utility completely,

Downloaded and installed it and it is one hundred accessible with nvda so far.

One side note, on the install screen tab around and uncheck install google chrome as your default browser if you don’t want it.

Thanks again

Rich

Re: accessible securly disk wiper

 

Rich, with the transition to universal apps and the like, I never know how accessible any given program might be to someone in the abstract.

You could certainly try out CCleaner Standard Free to see if it works for you.  Under the Tools Pane is the Drive Wiper tool.  Once you've selected that you have a dialog that lets you choose:

  • Free Space on a drive or the entire drive, contents and all
  • The number of overwrite passes:  1, 3, 7, or 35  (each being more secure and adding time to the process - 35 takes forever)
  • And a series of checkboxes for the drive or drives you wish to select on which the wipe action will be performed


--
Brian

Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.

    ~ Lauren Bacall

    


accessible securly disk wiper

Richard Kuzma
 

Good morning,

Does anyone know of any decent accessible disk wiping software?

Thanks

Rich

Re: mouse movement

 

I will preface this with:  I know nothing about the Golden Cursor add-on and what follows is not intended as any sort of comment about its utility.

Don't forget that NVDA has what I think is a major improvement over other screen readers in its mouse tracking function.  Once you develop some slight skill in using the mouse to "scan" the page, even without being able to see exactly where the mouse is, you can get a very good "quick and dirty" knowledge of what is actually on that page, particularly in regard to controls and general content.  I have tried to teach my clients to not "be afraid of the mouse" when used for this purpose and to be willing to actually use it for left and right click (which is easy to do if you keep it in a caddy so it can't move across the surface on which it rests).  I don't often "succeed" (for lack of a better term) as much with an actual mouse as I do with a mouse pad, because it's a simple matter to mask the mouse pad with a piece of heavy cardboard for when you don't want to be activating it accidentally while still having full and easy access to the actual left and right mouse buttons.

I would imagine, based on the description of Golden Cursor, that there could be a powerful wedding between its ability to save a specific location for later "snapping to" and NVDA's mouse tracking to allow you to do a quick "fly over" of a page to find those locations you might want to use with Golden Cursor.

If I'm wrong about this I'm sure someone will set me straight as to how, and I'm more than willing to hear that.  This is conjecture based on very little knowledge of Golden Cursor.
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    ~ Lauren Bacall

    


Re: third party rss readers

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I've not tried it, but there is one in the Webbie suite I think.
Can anyone tell me what the difference is between an rss reader and a podcast downloader, as many of those use rss, and store the files offline. The only difference is what the file actually is, audio html or whatever, surely?
Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Bartlett" <themusicalbrewer@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:47 PM
Subject: [nvda] third party rss readers


Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA? I'm
currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



--
Christopher Bartlett

Re: Anti Virus

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Most anti viruses will scan anything you intend to save to the system. I've noted that msse can do this, but I think most are intelligent enough to check what file type it is first.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "enes sarıbaş" <enes.saribas@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus


hi,

I actually meant choosing the save option in thunderbird. This option
does not execute the attachment


On 11/20/2016 1:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Opening an attachment often automatically causes it to be executed.
Gene

*From:* enes sarıbaş <mailto:enes.saribas@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:45 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

hi gene,

opening the attachment isn't a problem. Executing the file is. I
recieved a spam mail that contained a malicious javascript enclosed in
a zip file. My antivirus, avira, missed it. When I uploaded it to
virustotal, I was the first one to upload it and only 2 antiviruses
caught it.


On 11/19/2016 9:03 PM, Gene wrote:
No matter how careful you are, you can still be infected, even by
going to reputable sites if those sites are hacked or if the
advertising on those sites is hacked. Yes, people should follow good
safety procedures. but that does not minimize the need or usefulness
of good antimalware programs.
And no matter how careful you are, what about the moment of
inattention. I'm very careful about not opening attachments. but
even so, there was one time in perhaps fifteen years or longer, that
I wasn't really thinking much about what I was doing and opened an
attachment that came from a message that looked as though it was from
someone I knew. If I had been paying proper attention, I wouldn't
have done so but the point is that unless you are sure that you will
always be paying proper attention from now until you stop using
computers, there is always a small or very small chance for error.
I've seen techs or techies minimize the importance of antimalware
programs. Frankly, I consider this to be the overconfidence of
knowledge. I believe that safety is the lesson of knowledge and
experience.
Genee
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Shaun Everiss <mailto:@smeveriss>
*Sent:* Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:52 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

I agree, the first point of security should be your head.
Next I'd use something like firefox with better privacy for flash
cookies, ublock for adds, and noscript for scripts.
That way if you click malware it may not run.
To be honest I have been tempted to get more passive protection that
gets stuff before it handles things.



On 20/11/2016 6:44 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
I have seen virtually any antivirus or security suite you can name
either praised to the high heavens or called almost completely
useless. It really depends on who's doing the reviewing and the
metrics they're using.

As has been said here, and elsewhere, antivirus programs are not
and should not be considered your first line of defense against
infection. Your own browsing habits play a far, far greater role in
that. Good browsing hygiene will keep you quite safe, if not 100% so.

If you have not been infected nor had whatever antivirus or
security program you've been using report anything being quarantined
in a very long time you can be reasonably certain that your browsing
habits are OK. If you're constantly infected or have things
quarantined without actually having been infected it would be very
wise to start looking at precisely when, how, and why this is
happening. Most infections are the direct result of user action, not
some backdoor entry.

Windows Defender has proven more than adequate for more users on
more machines than I can count at this point in my career. Nothing
is perfect, some competitors may be better, but Windows Defender is
not even close to "junk".

This thread entitled, Windows Defender as an integral part of
Windows 10 (
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/632487/windows-defender-as-integral-part-of-windows-10/
) , which just started yesterday on bleepingcomputer.com's Windows 10
Support Forum, is worth reading [disclaimer: I've got two posts in
that thread so far, but that's not why I think it's worth looking at].
--
*Brian*

*Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is
complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t.*

~ Lauren Bacall

Re: where can i find free synthesizer for nvda that can read arabic?

Rui Fontes
 

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-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Amir Din
Data: 20 de novembro de 2016 09:06
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] where can i find free synthesizer for nvda that can read arabic?

hi,
i know that vocalizer and acapella has support for arabic reading in nvda, but is there free alternative? i cannot buy those two because i cannot pay them because it requires paypal and i didn't have it. i heard that the mbrola project has support for arabic synthesizer and since mbrola can be used with espeak, i thought i can use it with nvda, but it didn't work because arabic doesn't have pronounciation file that espeak needs in order to translate from mbrola to espeak. espeak however, can say the lettre but cannot say the word in arabic. so, any alternative synthesizer that can be used, and it's free? to read arabic?

amir.
http://twitter.com/amir442

Re: third party rss readers

 

try accessible RSS. the folks who make the webbie web browser

Re: third party rss readers

Gene
 

I tried the RSS reader that is a part of the Webbie package and, while easy to use, I found that notices aren't necessarily in chronological order.  You may want to try it and see what your experience is but that's one reason I stopped using it, because I didn't have any way to be sure I wasn't missing new material without looking at every item in the list of entries for whatever feed I wanted to follow.  If others have a solution to this, it might prove useful to people who want an easy to use reader.  I haven't tried others so I can't directly answer your question but my answer may help you if you evaluate this reader.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] third party rss readers

Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA?  I'm currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



--
Christopher Bartlett

Re: third party rss readers

David Griffith
 

Personally I am very happy with the RSS Reader Program provided free along with the other Webbie Accessible Suite of Programs.


There has been a recent slight tsimplification of the program to improve stability where I understand automatic Feed Refresh after the program has been loaded has been removed.


I do not personally find this a problem as all I do is cursor down my list of available feeds. I then hit control R which not only refreshes the feed rapidly but also open up the table of available articles in the feed automatically. then  I just  press enter on the Feed article and it will load in your browser.

Press escape in the article list and you will go back to the feed list.

Very simple but it works great.


I paid for the QFeed program from Accessible Apps but to be honest this Free program is far far more stable and fast at loading. RSS Reader has never crashed on me whilst this was a frequent problem with QFeed.  Also the support from Alasdair King is good whilst the support on problems with the paid for QFeed is non-existent.



David Griffith


20/11/2016 12:47, Christopher Bartlett wrote:

Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA?  I'm currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



--
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Re: third party rss readers

Ângelo Abrantes
 

Thunderbird works very well!

Ângelo Abrantes


Às 12:47 de 20-11-2016, Christopher Bartlett escreveu:
Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA?  I'm currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



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third party rss readers

Christopher Bartlett
 

Has anyone found a desktop rss reader that works well with NVDA?  I'm currently using goread.io, which is a distinctly dissatisfactory service.



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Re: Anti Virus

enes sarıbaş
 

hi,

I actually meant choosing the save option in thunderbird. This option does not execute the attachment


On 11/20/2016 1:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Opening an attachment often automatically causes it to be executed. 
 
Gene

Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

hi gene,

opening the attachment isn't a problem. Executing the file is. I recieved a spam mail that contained a malicious javascript enclosed in a zip file.  My antivirus, avira, missed it. When I uploaded it to virustotal, I was the first one to upload it and only 2 antiviruses caught it.


On 11/19/2016 9:03 PM, Gene wrote:
No matter how careful you are, you can still be infected, even by going to reputable sites if those sites are hacked or if the advertising on those sites is hacked.  Yes, people should follow good safety procedures.  but that does not minimize the need or usefulness of good antimalware programs. 
 
And no matter how careful you are, what about the moment of inattention.  I'm very careful about not opening attachments.  but even so, there was one time in perhaps fifteen years or longer, that I wasn't really thinking much about what I was doing and opened an attachment that came from a message that looked as though it was from someone I knew.  If I had been paying proper attention, I wouldn't have done so but the point is that unless you are sure that you will always be paying proper attention from now until you stop using computers, there is always a small or very small chance for error.  I've seen techs or techies minimize the importance of antimalware programs.  Frankly, I consider this to be the overconfidence of knowledge.  I believe that safety is the lesson of knowledge and experience.
 
Genee
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anti Virus

I agree, the first point of security should be your head.
Next I'd use something like firefox with better privacy for flash
cookies, ublock for adds, and noscript for scripts.
That way if you click malware it may not run.
To be honest I have been tempted to get more passive protection that
gets stuff before it handles things.



On 20/11/2016 6:44 a.m., Brian Vogel wrote:
> I have seen virtually any antivirus or security suite you can name either praised to the high heavens or called almost completely useless.  It really depends on who's doing the reviewing and the metrics they're using.
>
> As has been said here, and elsewhere, antivirus programs are not and should not be considered your first line of defense against infection.  Your own browsing habits play a far, far greater role in that.  Good browsing hygiene will keep you quite safe, if not 100% so.
>
> If you have not been infected nor had whatever antivirus or security program you've been using report anything being quarantined in a very long time you can be reasonably certain that your browsing habits are OK.  If you're constantly infected or have things quarantined without actually having been infected it would be very wise to start looking at precisely when, how, and why this is happening.  Most infections are the direct result of user action, not some backdoor entry.
>
> Windows Defender has proven more than adequate for more users on more machines than I can count at this point in my career.   Nothing is perfect, some competitors may be better, but Windows Defender is not even close to "junk".
>
> This thread entitled, Windows Defender as an integral part of Windows 10 ( http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/632487/windows-defender-as-integral-part-of-windows-10/ ) , which just started yesterday on bleepingcomputer.com's Windows 10 Support Forum, is worth reading [disclaimer: I've got two posts in that thread so far, but that's not why I think it's worth looking at].
> --
> *Brian*
>
> *Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete.  If you’re alive, it isn’t.*
>
>    ~ Lauren Bacall
>




Re: where can i find free synthesizer for nvda that can read arabic?

Fatma Mehanna
 

hi Amir,
unfortunately, right now, there isn't any free arabic synth. vocalizer
and acapela voices are the only solution.
thanks.

On 11/20/16, Amir Din <mrdin8877@...> wrote:
hi,
i know that vocalizer and acapella has support for arabic reading in nvda,
but is there free alternative? i cannot buy those two because i cannot pay
them because it requires paypal and i didn't have it. i heard that the
mbrola project has support for arabic synthesizer and since mbrola can be
used with espeak, i thought i can use it with nvda, but it didn't work
because arabic doesn't have pronounciation file that espeak needs in order
to translate from mbrola to espeak. espeak however, can say the lettre but
cannot say the word in arabic. so, any alternative synthesizer that can be
used, and it's free? to read arabic?

amir.
http://twitter.com/amir442




where can i find free synthesizer for nvda that can read arabic?

Amir Din <mrdin8877@...>
 

hi,
i know that vocalizer and acapella has support for arabic reading in nvda, but is there free alternative? i cannot buy those two because i cannot pay them because it requires paypal and i didn't have it. i heard that the mbrola project has support for arabic synthesizer and since mbrola can be used with espeak, i thought i can use it with nvda, but it didn't work because arabic doesn't have pronounciation file that espeak needs in order to translate from mbrola to espeak. espeak however, can say the lettre but cannot say the word in arabic. so, any alternative synthesizer that can be used, and it's free? to read arabic?

amir.
http://twitter.com/amir442

Re: Publishing EBooks with NVDA?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi David,

I'm being careful what I recommend here as I do have enough sight to use a magnifier and so trying to stick to what I know works with NVDA.

Calibre is a good program for putting together eBooks: https://calibre-ebook.com/

As well as doing ePub, it can convert to and from many other formats, including Microsoft Word.  I've never had a problem with the output in terms of accessibility - it's what we use to compile the NVDA modules with.

In terms of publishing, there are two ways you can go - submit to each site yourself (Apple iBooks, Barnes and Noble, kobo etc, or you can distribute with one of the distribution companies like Smashwords or Draft 2 Digital.

Using a service like Smashwords or Draft2Digital, they usually keep a cut of any sales you make, but do save you from having to upload to each individually.  It also gets around things like you otherwise need a Mac to upload to iBooks, and you can only upload to Barnes and Noble if you are in the US or UK.

None of the big distribution companies seem to do Amazon these days, and as they are the largest book retailer, it's probably worth having your book there.

Back on formatting, Apple at least use: http://validator.idpf.org/ to validate and it's recommended to use that anyway just to make sure.  The only time I had errors was I think when I had things like spaces in filenames.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:20 AM, David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> wrote:
Hello NVDA group,
Websites like www.daisy.org highly recommend author Dave Gunn's
"Accessible eBook Guidelines ....." (title snipped). Have you found
accessibility and or compatibility with major eBook publishing
programs used with a screen reader to be a real, major, challenge or
hurtle?

This question is more for those with no vision or very limited vision.

Alongside that, Dropbox may work well with IOS devices compared to
desktops or laptops, but what cloud portals work well with desktops
and laptops?

Thanks for your input.

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...






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