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Re: Battle With Win10

Gene
 

But we don't know yet if users of earlier versions of Windows will continue to be bombarded by Microsoft with nag messages in the system tray about buying an upgrade.  These, if they are intrusive enough, may be wanted to be blocked, especially if blind users hear ongoing messages automatically read by their screen-readers interrupting what they are doing.  Also, if the messages are intrusive enough, sighted people may want to block them as wel.  We'll see.  Microsoft has gone out of its way to try to cram Windows 10 down the throats of its users.  We'll see if they are less intrusive about it in future. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Battle With Win10

well it  won't matter anyway.
win10  upgrade  ends   tomorrow so  it won't   matter much.



On 28/07/2016 6:54 p.m., Felix G. wrote:
> Hi,
> at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool which can prevent
> Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the description. It
> looks very well put together and worked for me.
> Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted, then after
> a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure didn't like
> the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I wanted it
> anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
> Greetings,
> Felix Grützmacher
>
> David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28. Juli 2016
> um 04:26 Uhr:
>
>> Hello group,
>> Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with windows 10
>> forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it was all
>> behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.
>>
>> I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and chose
>> the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
>> make use of .com. It did not work.
>>
>> My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is likely
>> to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not being
>> used for a few minutes.
>>
>> This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem, not
>> just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?
>>
>> --
>> David Russell
>> david.sonofhashem@...
>> Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
>> James A. Michener
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Accessible radio player software for windows?

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

Hi Mark!

Which radioplayer you mean in the letter?

Georgi


На 28.7.2016 г. в 11:53 ч., Mark Brett написа:
Hi, how do I get a list of stations on this?

I have gone into search options and selected the uk. Do I have to narrow down my search with a type of music or can I get a list of stations that it will get in the uk?

Many thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: 27 July 2016 17:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible radio player software for windows?

TapIn radio is something have been using for a while:

http://www.raimersoft.com/tapinradio.aspx


Jacob Kruger
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On 2016-07-27 5:15 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, subject says it all.

Any one no of any good ones?










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Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Gene
 

I have never seen such a banner.  Also, you give no information about the browser you are using nor do you give any information about what the message says.  With more information, you might get an answer.  You may be able to set your browser to prompt you about accepting cookies on sites.  I don't recall seeing such a setting in any browser but that doesn't mean it may not be present in your browser.  It may be that you need to change a browser setting to stop this behavior. 
 
Gene

----- Original message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 1:33 AM
Subject: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out there who can supply answers.

Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.

There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know, firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest official release of NVDA.

Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree


Re: Accessible radio player software for windows?

Mark Brett
 

Hi, how do I get a list of stations on this?

I have gone into search options and selected the uk. Do I have to narrow down my search with a type of music or can I get a list of stations that it will get in the uk?

Many thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: 27 July 2016 17:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible radio player software for windows?

TapIn radio is something have been using for a while:

http://www.raimersoft.com/tapinradio.aspx


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-07-27 5:15 PM, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, subject says it all.

Any one no of any good ones?





Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

Brian Crabtree <pandbcrabtree@...>
 

The browser is Chrome. But I guess it is the same for all browsers, as the websites put up their legally-required banner in each browser. I don't see a way to do whatever the action should be. There is normally a link to get more info on their cookie policy, but that does not dismiss the banner.

On 28 Jul 2016, at 08:59, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:

Not seen this in Firefox, yes sites ask about cookies but normall tell you what to do, ie continue assumes you have agreed or agree or whatever it is.
What browser is this?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Crabtree" <pandbcrabtree@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:33 AM
Subject: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10


Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out there who can supply answers.

Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.

There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know, firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest official release of NVDA.

Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree

Re: Battle With Win10

Lenron
 

I would hate to be the person that decides to update after tomorrow.

On 7/28/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
Not for us blind folk I understand somehow we have at least another month
to do it according to news I've read but in fact I'd like to know how it
knows you are blind.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Battle With Win10


well it won't matter anyway.
win10 upgrade ends tomorrow so it won't matter much.



On 28/07/2016 6:54 p.m., Felix G. wrote:
Hi,
at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool which can
prevent
Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the description.

It
looks very well put together and worked for me.
Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted, then
after
a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure didn't
like
the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I wanted it
anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
Greetings,
Felix Grützmacher

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28. Juli
2016
um 04:26 Uhr:

Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem, not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener







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Re: Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Oh, sorry, I finally figure it out.
I have 4items, namely:
windows powershell ise
windows powershell ise(x86)
windows powershell
windows powershell(x86)


Brian's Mail list account 於 27/7/2016 21:20 寫道:

Well on my machine there are to, one in the x 86 folder and one in the normal program files folder which is persumable a 64 bit version. so where did this come from?
No idea.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William" <@WilliamWai>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64


Oh really? run powershell x86 is accessible with NVDA?

Cause I just type powershell and there is only one search result.



Brian's Mail list account 於 27/7/2016 17:50 寫道:
I was using 10 on the machine in question. It was only when running the 64 bit version though. the x86 version was fine.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64


Are you asking this question while using windows ten? What version of windows are you using? I'm on 7.

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Sent: July-26-16 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64

powershell is accessible with NVDA?
In my experience, it didn't..... even I copy a command and press enter,
it didn't speak the result.....


Brian's Mail list account 於 26/7/2016 15:46 寫道:
Hi, I assume folk are aware of this strange behaviour. Powershell is
not something I use a lot, basically a glorified command prompt, but
the 32 bit version has served me well on all machines before, and
indeed works fine in windows 10, but..
I did last night run the 64 bit version and found the following with
nvda. Typing into the command line is silent, but cursoring and
deleting works
Running a command etc, results in a mixed spoken output of normal text
output and single letters, ie spelled out speech, rather than that
part of the output.
Anyone know what causes this weird effect?
Its not fixed in the next branch cos I tried it last night.
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Re: Accessible radio player software for windows?

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 

Mozekti is also good but a long time ago there isn't new updates and so it only works

with xp.
На 28.7.2016 г. в 11:00 ч., Георги Ламбов написа:

   Hi!

I also use RadioSure: a very good and accessible radioPlayerwith both screen readers: NvdA and jaws. At the moment propose the player 33 000 and more radioStations from all the countries and continents. The stations aren't divided by country and genres but with the tab we find two fields: on the first we can write countryor genre we looking for, and wicg the next tab we get the stations list. The program has multiLanguage interface and is to manage by the context menu.

Another accessible with screen readers, program is: RadioBox. The program is portable and is easy to use. For instance: control + down menu is volume down and control + up menu is volume up. With enter we play the station, with control + s, we stop the station etc.

Another accessible program is: Readon TV Movie Radio Player.

Perhaps there also are anothers and I'll be glad if anyone knows another radioPlayers which understand themselves good with screen readers!

Cheers!

Georgi


27.7.2016 г. в 19:55 ч., Matt Turner написа:
Grate point, some of the stations don't provide a direct mp3 stream, or they want you to listen live via iHeart radio.
On 7/27/2016 12:27 PM, Gene wrote:
Tapin Radio is a good program. Unfortunately, such programs may not have access to as many stations as previously.  I saw something on a list I follow indicating that there is something about rights management and many stations are no longer accessible to such programs.  for some reason, they are restricting their streams to use from their web sites.  I've only seen one comment about this and I'm not saying it is reliable information but such players may not be as useful as previously. 
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mert Anlar
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible radio player software for windows?

Hi,
I prefer you to use TapinRadio. i'm using it for a long ago, also it's
accessible
Best wishes, Mert Anlar
On July 27 2016 at 18:15, Matt Turner wrote:
> Hi, subject says it all.
>
> Any one no of any good ones?
>
>
>
>








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Re: Battle With Win10

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Not for us blind folk I understand somehow we have at least another month to do it according to news I've read but in fact I'd like to know how it knows you are blind.

Brian

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From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Battle With Win10


well it won't matter anyway.
win10 upgrade ends tomorrow so it won't matter much.



On 28/07/2016 6:54 p.m., Felix G. wrote:
Hi,
at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool which can prevent
Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the description. It
looks very well put together and worked for me.
Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted, then after
a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure didn't like
the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I wanted it
anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
Greetings,
Felix Grützmacher

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28. Juli 2016
um 04:26 Uhr:

Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem, not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener



Re: Accessible radio player software for windows?

Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
 


   Hi!

I also use RadioSure: a very good and accessible radioPlayerwith both screen readers: NvdA and jaws. At the moment propose the player 33 000 and more radioStations from all the countries and continents. The stations aren't divided by country and genres but with the tab we find two fields: on the first we can write countryor genre we looking for, and wicg the next tab we get the stations list. The program has multiLanguage interface and is to manage by the context menu.

Another accessible with screen readers, program is: RadioBox. The program is portable and is easy to use. For instance: control + down menu is volume down and control + up menu is volume up. With enter we play the station, with control + s, we stop the station etc.

Another accessible program is: Readon TV Movie Radio Player.

Perhaps there also are anothers and I'll be glad if anyone knows another radioPlayers which understand themselves good with screen readers!

Cheers!

Georgi


27.7.2016 г. в 19:55 ч., Matt Turner написа:
Grate point, some of the stations don't provide a direct mp3 stream, or they want you to listen live via iHeart radio.
On 7/27/2016 12:27 PM, Gene wrote:
Tapin Radio is a good program. Unfortunately, such programs may not have access to as many stations as previously.  I saw something on a list I follow indicating that there is something about rights management and many stations are no longer accessible to such programs.  for some reason, they are restricting their streams to use from their web sites.  I've only seen one comment about this and I'm not saying it is reliable information but such players may not be as useful as previously. 
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Mert Anlar
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible radio player software for windows?

Hi,
I prefer you to use TapinRadio. i'm using it for a long ago, also it's
accessible
Best wishes, Mert Anlar
On July 27 2016 at 18:15, Matt Turner wrote:
> Hi, subject says it all.
>
> Any one no of any good ones?
>
>
>
>








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Re: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10

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Not seen this in Firefox, yes sites ask about cookies but normall tell you what to do, ie continue assumes you have agreed or agree or whatever it is.
What browser is this?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Crabtree" <pandbcrabtree@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:33 AM
Subject: [nvda] Fwd: How to reach cookie warning banners in Windows 10


Excuse me for posting this question again. Perhaps because of heavy focus on other topics, it got no replies the first time, but there must be folks out there who can supply answers.

Please could someone suggest how to reach and dismiss the banner that comes up on websites, advising me that the site uses cookies.

There is an x at the end of the banner, but I have tried everything I know, firstly to navigate to the banner and then to reach the x to dismiss it with NVDA and cannot get anywhere near it. I am on Windows 10 and the latest official release of NVDA.

Is there perhaps a Windows command which helps? Brian Crabtree

Re: Battle With Win10

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The original problem was that it tries to suggest a time for the install. If you say you don't want to, it will do it now. If you say yeas then it won't.
Then install never 10 and make sure its off for this anytime update and it should be fine even though the install file may well be on the machine. They have relented in the last windows update last week and send a new version of the nag that also does what never 10 does and allows you to banish it, but it seems that once the process has happened once, they have no way to stop it, unless you do this third party fix.
Of course if its already started to update you might be better off doing it seeing what you think of it then going back within the month. Its up to you.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 3:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] Battle With Win10


Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem, not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener

Re: Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Do you mean you access them not from the start menu but go into the sub folder one by one?


Brian's Mail list account 於 27/7/2016 21:20 寫道:

Well on my machine there are to, one in the x 86 folder and one in the normal program files folder which is persumable a 64 bit version. so where did this come from?
No idea.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William" <@WilliamWai>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64


Oh really? run powershell x86 is accessible with NVDA?

Cause I just type powershell and there is only one search result.



Brian's Mail list account 於 27/7/2016 17:50 寫道:
I was using 10 on the machine in question. It was only when running the 64 bit version though. the x86 version was fine.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64


Are you asking this question while using windows ten? What version of windows are you using? I'm on 7.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: July-26-16 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64

powershell is accessible with NVDA?
In my experience, it didn't..... even I copy a command and press enter,
it didn't speak the result.....


Brian's Mail list account 於 26/7/2016 15:46 寫道:
Hi, I assume folk are aware of this strange behaviour. Powershell is
not something I use a lot, basically a glorified command prompt, but
the 32 bit version has served me well on all machines before, and
indeed works fine in windows 10, but..
I did last night run the 64 bit version and found the following with
nvda. Typing into the command line is silent, but cursoring and
deleting works
Running a command etc, results in a mixed spoken output of normal text
output and single letters, ie spelled out speech, rather than that
part of the output.
Anyone know what causes this weird effect?
Its not fixed in the next branch cos I tried it last night.
Brian

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Re: NVDA and Sudden Strange Behavior with Outlook 2016

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Who knows. I noticed that a person on tech talk on rnib connect radio said no end of issues were happening in office 2016 with windows ten, and in the end she had to go back to an earler version of office to get sanity back.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:10 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Sudden Strange Behavior with Outlook 2016


Hello all.



For the past few days, NVDA has been saying "no associated drafts" before
each email message in the message list in Outlook 2016.



I've made no changes in outlook. Is there a way to stop this? I have a
large number of emails each day and those few words add time to the process.



Any suggestions would be appreciated.



Thanks.



Dan



Re: Windows 10 Upgrade?

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If you definitely do not want win 10, then look online for a program called never 10 and run it. it gives you what your current state is and each time you select the item it will change to reflect the current setting. Turning it off stops everything from updating.
In answer to your other question, as far as i know windows 10 works like a big version of system restore in that it puts 10 in keeping everything that can work as it was and storing windows 7 in a special folder. You have i seem to recall 1 month before this folder is deleted. After that you cannot go back to 7 again.


Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Upgrade?


Hi NVDA group,

I currently have Win7 on my computer, but am noticing the frequency of
upgrade to win10 is occurring more often during the day. My questions
are these:
-If I select yes, will it write over Win7 or somehow make win7 disabled?

-Will "all programs" currently accessed be moved to function in win10?

-How do I tell if the version upgrade is 32-bit or 64-bit? I do have
the latest version of NVDA running.

Thanks for the help which will lead me to move or not move.
Regards,
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Re: Accessible radio player software for windows?

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If its the bbc ones then the webbie radio player 3 seems to work well.
Youare right to some degree unless you want to subscribe to a service which provides you iwith updated links as often used by internet radio stand alones, wich have a yearly sub, then many are now on web sites and some are just unavailable outside of certain countries as well. Too many lawyers.
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Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible radio player software for windows?


Tapin Radio is a good program. Unfortunately, such programs may not have access to as many stations as previously. I saw something on a list I follow indicating that there is something about rights management and many stations are no longer accessible to such programs. for some reason, they are restricting their streams to use from their web sites. I've only seen one comment about this and I'm not saying it is reliable information but such players may not be as useful as previously.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mert Anlar
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible radio player software for windows?


Hi,
I prefer you to use TapinRadio. i'm using it for a long ago, also it's
accessible
Best wishes, Mert Anlar
On July 27 2016 at 18:15, Matt Turner wrote:
Hi, subject says it all.

Any one no of any good ones?



Re: Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and NVDA

 

Well navigational sounds at least should be fixed.
It should autoupdate itself.
Because mozilla removed fuel things don't work.
Right, in some instances like with some forum links the addon just won't fire but it works most of the time and where it doesn't it does not matter to me.

On 27/07/2016 9:57 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Navigational sounds but you need to use firefox 46 or before. all the
versions after this seem to screw that up and tend also to me at least
to be a slug compared to 46.
I hope somebody tells Mozilla about these things. Navigational sounds
always makes a bong sound when the page has fully loaded, though of
course some web site do continue throwing crap at you for adverts, and I
always use ublock on firefox now to stop all this rubbish from moving
focus.

Amazon seem to be particularly annoying in this respect recently. Now I
hear clicks but nothing changes which sis just what I need.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix G."
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 6:41 AM
Subject: [nvda] Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and
NVDA


Hello,
I'd like to ask if anyone else is observing the following with recent
versions of Firefox. When loading a page, whose title we shall define as T,
NVDA announces chatter of the following structure:
T Mozilla Firefox. Unknown. Unknown. T Mozilla Firefox. T document
Now if you substitute anything substantial for T you can see how this would
amount to a lot of sylables with no useful information content.
Also, Alt+Tabbing to Firefox produces:
T Mozilla Firefox, T document
Finally, are there plans to implement a way of finding out if a page has
been fully loaded? I quite often find myself in the middle of reading a
paragraph when suddenly some asynchronous update happens and the review
cursor is thrown back a few lines or to the previous heading, to name but
two instances.
Any suggestions on any of those?
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher



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Re: Windows 10 Upgrade?

 

I wouldn't bother about it.
tomorrow is upgrade end, the nags should stop within the next day or 2 if you can handle it a little longer it will die.

On 28/07/2016 4:06 a.m., David Russell wrote:
Hi NVDA group,

I currently have Win7 on my computer, but am noticing the frequency of
upgrade to win10 is occurring more often during the day. My questions
are these:
-If I select yes, will it write over Win7 or somehow make win7 disabled?

-Will "all programs" currently accessed be moved to function in win10?

-How do I tell if the version upgrade is 32-bit or 64-bit? I do have
the latest version of NVDA running.

Thanks for the help which will lead me to move or not move.
Regards,

Re: Battle With Win10

 

well it won't matter anyway.
win10 upgrade ends tomorrow so it won't matter much.

On 28/07/2016 6:54 p.m., Felix G. wrote:
Hi,
at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool which can prevent
Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the description. It
looks very well put together and worked for me.
Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted, then after
a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure didn't like
the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I wanted it
anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
Greetings,
Felix Grützmacher

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28. Juli 2016
um 04:26 Uhr:

Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem, not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener



Re: Battle With Win10

Felix G.
 

Hi,
at http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/ there is a tool which can prevent Win 10 related activity on Win 7 machines, according to the description. It looks very well put together and worked for me.
Had a forced install happen on my machine at home. It rebooted, then after a few hours it came back as Win 10. I just kept it but I sure didn't like the experience of having it forced upon me. Paradoxically I wanted it anyway but still this does make a philosophical difference.
Greetings,
Felix Grützmacher

David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> schrieb am Do., 28. Juli 2016 um 04:26 Uhr:

Hello group,
Late this afternoon I began having troubles in earnest with windows 10
forcing an install. NVDA did not read this was occurring, it was all
behind the scenes according to my wife who is sighted.

I did go to control panel, windows update, change settings and chose
the install automatic updates. This was suggested by an article at
make use of .com. It did not work.

My wife was able to again stop the install, but the problem is likely
to occur when my computer goes into low power mode, after not being
used for a few minutes.

This is quite disconcerting and evidently a widespread problem, not
just mine or a few others. Any thoughts?

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
Character consists of what you do on the third and fourth tries.
James A. Michener