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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Brian,

 

I did not know about this feature. It is really useful! I have just tried it out and I could selectively paste  particular items from the history list into a new file.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 10:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

The answer to your question is, "No," if you are literally trying to append to the clipboard.

That being said, if you're a Windows 10 user (it may even be in Windows 8.1) you can use Clipboard History feature which allows you to collect multiple items on the clipboard (and even sync to the cloud, if you are working between machines) and paste them one by one at the opposite end.  So you can do all your cutting from the source document without leaving it, and your pasting at the destination document without leaving it.

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Re: appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

 

The answer to your question is, "No," if you are literally trying to append to the clipboard.

That being said, if you're a Windows 10 user (it may even be in Windows 8.1) you can use Clipboard History feature which allows you to collect multiple items on the clipboard (and even sync to the cloud, if you are working between machines) and paste them one by one at the opposite end.  So you can do all your cutting from the source document without leaving it, and your pasting at the destination document without leaving it.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


NVDA and mailbird email client

Don H
 

Does the Email client mailbird work well with nvda?  Anyone on list using it?


appending to clipboard instead of just copying to clipboard?

Dan Beaver
 

Hi all,


Is there a way using NVDA or maybe an add-on to NVDA to do an append instead of just a copy?  I have a few items from every page of a website that I need to paste into a file but am currently having to copy each one and then paste each one individually into the file.  It is taking too much time.


I searched to see if there was a way to append  to the clipboard in the NVDA help but couldn't find anything.


Any help appreciated.


Thanks.



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Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: Having Nvda not speak at the log on screen

Michael Massey
 

Brian.  I was close, but no cigar as som4e folks say.  The tip you provided worked indeed.  Now if I can get the start up sound re-enabled and not having to use the sign in button to log on, I’ll be farther along, smile.  Thanks. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 9:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Having Nvda not speak at the log on screen

 

Michael,

            It's in the NVDA Settings, Preferences, Settings Item, General Pane (which is the one that opens by default).  There are two checkboxes regarding how NVDA behaves at system startup, and I believe the one you're looking to uncheck is the second:

1. Start NVDA after I sign in.
2. Use NVDA during sign-in (requires administrator privileges)

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It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: Having Nvda not speak at the log on screen

Chris
 

Under nvda general settings uncheck the option to Use NVDA during sign in

 

 

 

 

From: Michael Massey
Sent: 01 November 2020 16:22
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Having Nvda not speak at the log on screen

 

Hi.  On Tuesday, October 13 2020, the internet went down causing the Windows 10 updates on my Hp laptop to become corrupted.  Numerous calls to the Microsoft disability answer desk finally straightened things out, well, pretty much  The issue I need to resolve is how to stop Nvda from speaking at the log on screen along with Jaws.  I have tried to find how to change the setting in the Nvda preferences menu but I seem to be missing a step.  My laptop pc is running the most current build of Windows 10 pro edition version 2004 with build number 19,041.610.  Thanks.    

 


Re: Having Nvda not speak at the log on screen

 

Michael,

            It's in the NVDA Settings, Preferences, Settings Item, General Pane (which is the one that opens by default).  There are two checkboxes regarding how NVDA behaves at system startup, and I believe the one you're looking to uncheck is the second:

1. Start NVDA after I sign in.
2. Use NVDA during sign-in (requires administrator privileges)

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Having Nvda not speak at the log on screen

Michael Massey
 

Hi.  On Tuesday, October 13 2020, the internet went down causing the Windows 10 updates on my Hp laptop to become corrupted.  Numerous calls to the Microsoft disability answer desk finally straightened things out, well, pretty much  The issue I need to resolve is how to stop Nvda from speaking at the log on screen along with Jaws.  I have tried to find how to change the setting in the Nvda preferences menu but I seem to be missing a step.  My laptop pc is running the most current build of Windows 10 pro edition version 2004 with build number 19,041.610.  Thanks.    


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 08:29 PM, Gene wrote:
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locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Gene
 

I already commented and asked a question but it appears that the e=-mail provider is somehow providing its own partnership with GMail. AT&T, my provider, used to have some sort of partnership with Yahoo Mail. I don't want my e-mail tied to a provider in case I change at some point. I use GMail for almost all my mail now, my own direct subscription.

If you want to continue the discussion, I am on the chat list and of course, Brian is on it as well.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Louise,

This is almost certainly an issue with using Windows Live Mail with Gmail, not NVDA or JAWS related. I do not know whether turning on the "Allow Less Secure Apps" setting on Google will allow Windows Live Mail access again or not. If you're using 2-factor-authorization it won't, that would need to be off, too.

But, in any case, I recommended Windows Live Mail 2012 as a simple e-mail client well beyond its end of support date, but don't anymore. And that's because it has been exhibiting anything from "increasing inconsistency" through outright failure to work with a number of different e-mail service providers in recent months. If you intend to keep using an e-mail client I strongly advise you to look into one that is currently supported.

I will allow this topic to remain open for the moment, because Gene may have some parting advice, and you may wish to reply to it. But after that, if that transpires, I will lock the topic, as it is virtually certain that this has absolutely nothing to do with NVDA or any other screen reader, for that matter.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

~ Kelley Boorn


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Gene
 

Also, you said something about your provider switching to GMail. I'm not sure what you are describing. If your provider is somehow partnering with GMail, you can solve the problem by establishing your own completely independent GMail account and switching your list mail to that account.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

I can post using GMail and Windows Live Mail. Not being supported has
nothing to do with whether a program will still work.

Are you saying that you can receive mail but when you reply, it doesn't
reach the group or isn't sent?

I see no connection between sending a message using the web interface and
whether messages are shown as read in the e-mail program. They are
completely different. I'm not saying what you are reporting isn't
happening, but I see no explanation for how it could.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Louise Pfau
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail
applications

Hi. In this instance, I'm referring to the groups.io web interface, but I'm
also subscribed to some groups on Google Groups, so I've used that interface
as well. I haven't been able to post messages to any of my groups via
E-mail since my service provider migrated their service over to Google.
That might have something to do with the fact that Windows Live Mail is no
longer supported though, nothing to do with NVDA or JAWS. The groups.io and
Google web interfaces work well.

Thanks,

Louise


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

 

Louise,

          This is almost certainly an issue with using Windows Live Mail with Gmail, not NVDA or JAWS related.  I do not know whether turning on the "Allow Less Secure Apps" setting on Google will allow Windows Live Mail access again or not.  If you're using 2-factor-authorization it won't, that would need to be off, too.

           But, in any case, I recommended Windows Live Mail 2012 as a simple e-mail client well beyond its end of support date, but don't anymore.  And that's because it has been exhibiting anything from "increasing inconsistency" through outright failure to work with a number of different e-mail service providers in recent months.  If you intend to keep using an e-mail client I strongly advise you to look into one that is currently supported.

            I will allow this topic to remain open for the moment, because Gene may have some parting advice, and you may wish to reply to it.  But after that, if that transpires, I will lock the topic, as it is virtually certain that this has absolutely nothing to do with NVDA or any other screen reader, for that matter.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Gene
 

I can post using GMail and Windows Live Mail. Not being supported has nothing to do with whether a program will still work.

Are you saying that you can receive mail but when you reply, it doesn't reach the group or isn't sent?

I see no connection between sending a message using the web interface and whether messages are shown as read in the e-mail program. They are completely different. I'm not saying what you are reporting isn't happening, but I see no explanation for how it could.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Louise Pfau
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 7:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Hi. In this instance, I'm referring to the groups.io web interface, but I'm also subscribed to some groups on Google Groups, so I've used that interface as well. I haven't been able to post messages to any of my groups via E-mail since my service provider migrated their service over to Google. That might have something to do with the fact that Windows Live Mail is no longer supported though, nothing to do with NVDA or JAWS. The groups.io and Google web interfaces work well.

Thanks,

Louise


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  In this instance, I'm referring to the groups.io web interface, but I'm also subscribed to some groups on Google Groups, so I've used that interface as well.  I haven't been able to post messages to any of my groups via E-mail since my service provider migrated their service over to Google.  That might have something to do with the fact that Windows Live Mail is no longer supported though, nothing to do with NVDA or JAWS.  The groups.io and Google web interfaces work well.

Thanks,

Louise


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

 

Oops, left off "unnecessarily complicated," at the end.  Using a half-and-half webmail and half email client is, put mildly, unnecessarily complicated.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

 

On Sat, Oct 31, 2020 at 07:41 PM, Gene wrote:
Evidently you are saying that if you reply to a message using the GMail web interface
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That's definitely one option, and the one I suspect is actually being used.  And I, like you, am not understanding why, if one is using webmail at all, one wouldn't just use webmail?   I can see absolutely nothing to be gained by reading in an old (or even current) e-mail client and replying in webmail.  In fact, it makes what should be a simple process, no matter which "side" (webmail vs. client) one would choose to use as it would typically be used - for all e-mail activities.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Gene
 

Evidently you are saying that if you reply to a message using the GMail web interface, all mail is marked as read in Windows Live Mail. I don't know why that would be but why do you reply using the web interface? If you explain that, we may be able to tell you how to do what you want in the e-mail program so you won't have the problem.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Louise Pfau
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 6:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Hi. I'll try to clarify what I'm asking. I think there is a conflict between JAWS 16 and the newer browsers that causes the browser to crash. This happens occasionally as well with NVDA 2020.3, but not as frequently, so I prefer to use NVDA for browsing the internet. When I navigate back to the list of messages in Windows Live Mail after composing a reply through the web interface, that's when the messages are all marked as read. I turned the preview pain off. As I indicated in my original post, I know that Windows Live Mail is no longer supported, but I want to know if other people are having the same issue with different third-party applications. If it's happening with other applications, then I'll fill out a bug report.

Thanks,

Louise


Re: NVDA performance in remote or virtual environments

Tim M
 

For what your trying to do make sure the desk or laptop has enough power.

Your looking for CPU's with 8 or more cores and high thread if you go vertual machine.

In either case make sure you have 32 gmb or better.The rest is what you like.

See vm's are power hogs and remotes can have lag. That is why you build for power.

Then all you have is software issues.

On 10/29/2020 5:50 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:
Dear all,

I thought I start a discussion here on the performance topic in remote or
virtual environments . . .


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

 

Louise,

           I ask the following for further clarification:  When you say, "composing a reply through the web interface" do you mean the Groups.io web interface or using the webmail interface for your e-mail account?

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


locked Re: NVDA marking messages as read in third-party E-mail applications

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I'll try to clarify what I'm asking.  I think there is a conflict between JAWS 16 and the newer browsers that causes the browser to crash.  This happens occasionally as well with NVDA 2020.3, but not as frequently, so I prefer to use NVDA for browsing the internet.  When I navigate back to the list of messages in Windows Live Mail after composing a reply through the web interface, that's when the messages are all marked as read.  I turned the preview pain off.  As I indicated in my original post, I know that Windows Live Mail is no longer supported, but I want to know if other people are having the same issue with different third-party applications.  If it's happening with other applications, then I'll fill out a bug report.

Thanks,

Louise

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