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Re: Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and NVDA

Gene
 

As far as I know, screen-readers that use the MSAA buffer, such as NVDA, don't display the page or let you move around in it before the page has fully loaded.
 
I''m not sure what is causing the behavior you are describing.  If a page fully refreshes, the expected behavior is that you will be returned to the top and reading will begin from the top.  If some certain part of the page is being refreshed, my speculation is that that may account for what you are experiencing if you are reading that part of the page. 
 
I'm not sure if you can control such behavior.  But you can try changing a setting in options.
Do you know how to find the checkbox that says something like warn me when sites attempt to redirect or reload the page? 
If not, I'll tell you.  But I have no idea if that setting would have any effect on this problem because if anything, only a part of a page is being refreshed, such as a region containing updating information such as a stock ticker or certain text on a page that may need to be kept current.  I doubt this setting has any effect on such behavior, though I don't know.
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and NVDA

I remember there is an item in  about:config to set when will the webpage be shown, fully loaded and shown or immediately shown while loading the remaining.
 

Felix G. 於 27/7/2016 13:41 寫道:
Hello,
I'd like to ask if anyone else is observing the following with recent versions of Firefox. When loading a page, whose title we shall define as T, NVDA announces chatter of the following structure:
T Mozilla Firefox. Unknown. Unknown. T Mozilla Firefox. T document
Now if you substitute anything substantial for T you can see how this would amount to a lot of sylables with no useful information content.
Also, Alt+Tabbing to Firefox produces:
T Mozilla Firefox, T document
Finally, are there plans to implement a way of finding out if a page has been fully loaded? I quite often find myself in the middle of reading a paragraph when suddenly some asynchronous update happens and the review cursor is thrown back a few lines or to the previous heading, to name but two instances.
Any suggestions on any of those?
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher

Re: Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Oh sorry for miss-leading. Yes, I am using powershell on Win 10 pro.


Arlene 於 27/7/2016 8:29 寫道:

Are you asking this question while using windows ten? What version of windows are you using? I'm on 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: July-26-16 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64

powershell is accessible with NVDA?
In my experience, it didn't..... even I copy a command and press enter,
it didn't speak the result.....


Brian's Mail list account 於 26/7/2016 15:46 寫道:
Hi, I assume folk are aware of this strange behaviour. Powershell is
not something I use a lot, basically a glorified command prompt, but
the 32 bit version has served me well on all machines before, and
indeed works fine in windows 10, but..
I did last night run the 64 bit version and found the following with
nvda. Typing into the command line is silent, but cursoring and
deleting works
Running a command etc, results in a mixed spoken output of normal text
output and single letters, ie spelled out speech, rather than that
part of the output.
Anyone know what causes this weird effect?
Its not fixed in the next branch cos I tried it last night.
Brian

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Re: Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and NVDA

Mr. Wong Chi Wai <cwwong.pro@...>
 

I remember there is an item in  about:config to set when will the webpage be shown, fully loaded and shown or immediately shown while loading the remaining.
 

Felix G. 於 27/7/2016 13:41 寫道:

Hello,
I'd like to ask if anyone else is observing the following with recent versions of Firefox. When loading a page, whose title we shall define as T, NVDA announces chatter of the following structure:
T Mozilla Firefox. Unknown. Unknown. T Mozilla Firefox. T document
Now if you substitute anything substantial for T you can see how this would amount to a lot of sylables with no useful information content.
Also, Alt+Tabbing to Firefox produces:
T Mozilla Firefox, T document
Finally, are there plans to implement a way of finding out if a page has been fully loaded? I quite often find myself in the middle of reading a paragraph when suddenly some asynchronous update happens and the review cursor is thrown back a few lines or to the previous heading, to name but two instances.
Any suggestions on any of those?
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher

Some observations on usability aspects with Firefox and NVDA

Felix G.
 

Hello,
I'd like to ask if anyone else is observing the following with recent versions of Firefox. When loading a page, whose title we shall define as T, NVDA announces chatter of the following structure:
T Mozilla Firefox. Unknown. Unknown. T Mozilla Firefox. T document
Now if you substitute anything substantial for T you can see how this would amount to a lot of sylables with no useful information content.
Also, Alt+Tabbing to Firefox produces:
T Mozilla Firefox, T document
Finally, are there plans to implement a way of finding out if a page has been fully loaded? I quite often find myself in the middle of reading a paragraph when suddenly some asynchronous update happens and the review cursor is thrown back a few lines or to the previous heading, to name but two instances.
Any suggestions on any of those?
Kind regards,
Felix Grützmacher

Re: facebook messenger with nvda:

David Moore
 

Hi,
I experimented with Messenger.com,
and I like The Mobile site of Facebook much better. It is much more straight forward, and you can just enter on the link of a friend, send them a message, and press enter. Then, you can just go back to the list of friends, and message another person. Messenger did not work that well with NVDA for me.
David Moore
 
 
 

                Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] facebook messenger with nvda:
 
Hi All,
I’d like to know what’s the diference between using messanger from the facebook mobile website and this one. I actualy find it a bit les accesible than facebook mobile. It doesnt read the list of conversations at all... If you could clear my doute I’ll appreciate it.
Kind regards,
 
Fernando Apan.
 
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] facebook messenger with nvda:
 

If you want to use fb messenger then I recommend you to use through web. Just go to messenger.com, sign in with your fb account and enjoy!

On July 24, 2016 2:40:12 PM "Davy Cuppens" <davycuppens@...> wrote:

Hi
 
It does not work at all. The most win10 apps are not accessible to screenreaders. If you have problems with that, inform microsoft.
 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] facebook messenger with nvda:
 

Hi How well does the facebook messenber app work with nvda? I thought about downloading it from the windows store on my pc, but was wondering if the accessibility issues were fixed yet.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

Fernando Apan
Tel: (228) 8 16 53 90
Twitter: @fernandoapan
Skype: fernando.apan
Sitio web:
http://www.musicaenbraille.com
Museo del café:
http://www.elcafe-tal.com

Re: facebook messenger with nvda:

Fernando Apan
 

Hi All,
I’d like to know what’s the diference between using messanger from the facebook mobile website and this one. I actualy find it a bit les accesible than facebook mobile. It doesnt read the list of conversations at all... If you could clear my doute I’ll appreciate it.
Kind regards,
 
Fernando Apan.
 

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] facebook messenger with nvda:
 

If you want to use fb messenger then I recommend you to use through web. Just go to messenger.com, sign in with your fb account and enjoy!

On July 24, 2016 2:40:12 PM "Davy Cuppens" <davycuppens@...> wrote:

Hi
 
It does not work at all. The most win10 apps are not accessible to screenreaders. If you have problems with that, inform microsoft.
 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] facebook messenger with nvda:
 

Hi How well does the facebook messenber app work with nvda? I thought about downloading it from the windows store on my pc, but was wondering if the accessibility issues were fixed yet.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

Fernando Apan
Tel: (228) 8 16 53 90
Twitter: @fernandoapan
Skype: fernando.apan
Sitio web:
http://www.musicaenbraille.com
Museo del café:
http://www.elcafe-tal.com

Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Bhavya,

The new colour option doesn't allow for complete dimming of the screen.  If you are using a desktop, you should be able to simply leave the monitor off (although my PC looks for the monitor connection and won't start if it doesn't detect that the monitor is already on (which is quite annoying as the monitor actually is on, it just takes a second or so to come on).  If you are using a laptop, you might try pressing WINDOWS+P to "Project" the screen and choose "Second screen only" to in effect turn off your main screen.

So what the new colour option does is simply make the Windows settings display with white text on a black background rather than black text on white, which is the default for most things.

You can set it in the windows options (WINDOWS+i), choose personalisation, then colours then "Choose your app mode" and set it to "Dark" rather than "Light".

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,
Could you elaborate a bit on the dark mode you were talking about?
Does it permit complete dimming of the screen?
Albert,
Thanks for the instructions - one thing I learnt was that Ctrl + Space
is used to unselected something. Previously, I always used to create a
random folder and then delete it to have focus on nothing, to be able
to get to the New submenu on the Desktop.
Thanks.

On 7/27/16, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
> Then, if I have to upgrade to ten. That’s what I’ll do. Alt f 4 from the
> desktop.
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
> Moore
> Sent: July-25-16 10:20 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I always just use alt+F4 on the desktop. Quick and painless LOL!
>
> David Moore (win10 list moderator)
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>
>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:26 PM
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update
>
>
>
> That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
>
> Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if
> I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll
> probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
> Christensen
> Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM
>
>
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update
>
>
>
> Hi Arlene,
>
>
>
> Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's
> only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different
> place.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Rosemarie Chavarria
> Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update
>
> Hi, Quentin,
>
> The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and
> hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to
> how you'd shut down in windows XP.
>
> Rosemarie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
> Christensen
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start
> menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file
> explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps
> (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full
> apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can
> still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context
> menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.
>
> What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
> 1. Windows
> 2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd
> have started moving down the middle app list column).
> 3. down arrow four times.
> 4. enter
> 5. down arrow
> 6. enter.
>
> If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U
> again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power
> button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just
> never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due
> to data loss :)
>
> There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now
> which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@...
> <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:
>
>
>         This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I
> know
>         the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing
> since
>         the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
>         there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
>         Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about
> 9 A.m. EDT.
>
>
> http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review
>
>         --
>          Steve Hoad
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
> Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
> Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
> <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
> www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
>
> Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
>
> Ph  <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306
>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
>  <http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook:  <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training Material Developer
>
> Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>
>
>
> Ph  <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306
>
> Direct: +61 413 904 383
>  <http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook:  <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
> http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
>


--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09






--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Bhavya shah
 

Hi Quentin,
Could you elaborate a bit on the dark mode you were talking about?
Does it permit complete dimming of the screen?
Albert,
Thanks for the instructions - one thing I learnt was that Ctrl + Space
is used to unselected something. Previously, I always used to create a
random folder and then delete it to have focus on nothing, to be able
to get to the New submenu on the Desktop.
Thanks.

On 7/27/16, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Then, if I have to upgrade to ten. That’s what I’ll do. Alt f 4 from the
desktop.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Moore
Sent: July-25-16 10:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update



Hi,

I always just use alt+F4 on the desktop. Quick and painless LOL!

David Moore (win10 list moderator)





From: Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:26 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update



That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.



On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if
I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll
probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update



Hi Arlene,



Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10. It's
only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different
place.



On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and
hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to
how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start
menu is now three columns wide. The left column has user account / file
explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps
(first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full
apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles. You can
still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context
menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd
have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U
again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power
button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just
never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due
to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now
which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@...
<mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2. I
know
the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing
since
the earliest release. Since these updates load automatically, are
there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about
9 A.m. EDT.


http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

--
Steve Hoad








--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
<tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess















--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



Ph <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306

Direct: +61 413 904 383 <tel:%2B61%20413%20904%20383>
<http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess







--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



Ph <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306

Direct: +61 413 904 383
<http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



--
Warm Regards
Bhavya Shah
Using NVDA (Non Visual Desktop Access) free and open source screen
reader for Microsoft Windows
To download a copy of the free screen reader NVDA, please visit
http://www.nvaccess.org/
Using Google Talkback on Motorolla G second generation Lollipop 5.0.2
Reach me through the following means:
Mobile: +91 7506221750
E-mail id: bhavya.shah125@...
Skype id : bhavya.09

Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Arlene
 

Then, if I have to upgrade to ten. That’s what I’ll do. Alt f 4 from the desktop.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: July-25-16 10:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi,

I always just use alt+F4 on the desktop. Quick and painless LOL!

David Moore (win10 list moderator)

 

 

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:26 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different place.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


        This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I know
        the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
        the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
        there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
        Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

        http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

        --
         Steve Hoad








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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


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Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

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Re: Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64

Arlene
 

Are you asking this question while using windows ten? What version of windows are you using? I'm on 7.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: July-26-16 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10/nvda/powershell 64

powershell is accessible with NVDA?
In my experience, it didn't..... even I copy a command and press enter,
it didn't speak the result.....


Brian's Mail list account 於 26/7/2016 15:46 寫道:
Hi, I assume folk are aware of this strange behaviour. Powershell is
not something I use a lot, basically a glorified command prompt, but
the 32 bit version has served me well on all machines before, and
indeed works fine in windows 10, but..
I did last night run the 64 bit version and found the following with
nvda. Typing into the command line is silent, but cursoring and
deleting works
Running a command etc, results in a mixed spoken output of normal text
output and single letters, ie spelled out speech, rather than that
part of the output.
Anyone know what causes this weird effect?
Its not fixed in the next branch cos I tried it last night.
Brian

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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

mk360
 

Yep, it works on 8 and 7 too.

El 26/07/2016 a las 18:41, michael chopra escribió:

Hi. This is really good. Can you do this for windows 8?

Thanks.

From Michael.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

I added shortcuts to my desktop for ShutDown and ReStart as follows:

 

1. Windows D to go to the Desktop.

2. Control Space Bar to unselect.

3. Press the Context Menu key and down arrow to New Submenu, then right arrow to open the submenu.  Down arrow to Shortcut and press the Enter key. 

4. Copy and paste the following text in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Next Button and press the Space Bar.

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0

5. Type a Name for your new shortcut in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Finish Button and press the Space Bar.  That’s it, you’re done.  You now have a shortcut on the Desktop for shutting down your computer. 

 

*Note: if you wish to add a Restart the Computer shortcut to the Desktop, you merely have to use the below text when following the above instructions. 

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /r /t 0

 

Thx, Albert

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's what I'm gonna do too

 

.

 

On 7/25/2016 7:39 PM, Arlene wrote:

Thanks! That’s good to know! I know in 7 you will find the shut down. don’t know about tenh. I’ll just do windows x and the letter u twice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different place.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


        This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I know
        the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
        the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
        there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
        Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

        http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

        --
         Steve Hoad








--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess









 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Albert Ruel
 

Michael, I no longer have any computers running the Windows 8 or 8.1 OS so can’t check it for you.  Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I on this list can answer the question. 

 

Thx, Albert

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of michael chopra
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Specifically, I’m using windows 8.1.

Thanks.

From Michael.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

I don’t know if the process will work in Windows 8. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of michael chopra
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi. This is really good. Can you do this for windows 8?

Thanks.

From Michael.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

I added shortcuts to my desktop for ShutDown and ReStart as follows:

 

1. Windows D to go to the Desktop.

2. Control Space Bar to unselect.

3. Press the Context Menu key and down arrow to New Submenu, then right arrow to open the submenu.  Down arrow to Shortcut and press the Enter key. 

4. Copy and paste the following text in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Next Button and press the Space Bar.

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0

5. Type a Name for your new shortcut in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Finish Button and press the Space Bar.  That’s it, you’re done.  You now have a shortcut on the Desktop for shutting down your computer. 

 

*Note: if you wish to add a Restart the Computer shortcut to the Desktop, you merely have to use the below text when following the above instructions. 

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /r /t 0

 

Thx, Albert

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's what I'm gonna do too

 

.

 

On 7/25/2016 7:39 PM, Arlene wrote:

Thanks! That’s good to know! I know in 7 you will find the shut down. don’t know about tenh. I’ll just do windows x and the letter u twice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different place.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


        This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I know
        the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
        the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
        there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
        Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

        http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

        --
         Steve Hoad








--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess






 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 

Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Michael Chopra <justforlists689@...>
 

Specifically, I’m using windows 8.1.

Thanks.

From Michael.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

I don’t know if the process will work in Windows 8. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of michael chopra
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi. This is really good. Can you do this for windows 8?

Thanks.

From Michael.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

I added shortcuts to my desktop for ShutDown and ReStart as follows:

 

1. Windows D to go to the Desktop.

2. Control Space Bar to unselect.

3. Press the Context Menu key and down arrow to New Submenu, then right arrow to open the submenu.  Down arrow to Shortcut and press the Enter key. 

4. Copy and paste the following text in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Next Button and press the Space Bar.

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0

5. Type a Name for your new shortcut in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Finish Button and press the Space Bar.  That’s it, you’re done.  You now have a shortcut on the Desktop for shutting down your computer. 

 

*Note: if you wish to add a Restart the Computer shortcut to the Desktop, you merely have to use the below text when following the above instructions. 

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /r /t 0

 

Thx, Albert

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's what I'm gonna do too

 

.

 

On 7/25/2016 7:39 PM, Arlene wrote:

Thanks! That’s good to know! I know in 7 you will find the shut down. don’t know about tenh. I’ll just do windows x and the letter u twice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different place.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


        This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I know
        the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
        the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
        there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
        Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

        http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

        --
         Steve Hoad








--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess







 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 

Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Albert Ruel
 

I don’t know if the process will work in Windows 8. 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of michael chopra
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi. This is really good. Can you do this for windows 8?

Thanks.

From Michael.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

I added shortcuts to my desktop for ShutDown and ReStart as follows:

 

1. Windows D to go to the Desktop.

2. Control Space Bar to unselect.

3. Press the Context Menu key and down arrow to New Submenu, then right arrow to open the submenu.  Down arrow to Shortcut and press the Enter key. 

4. Copy and paste the following text in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Next Button and press the Space Bar.

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0

5. Type a Name for your new shortcut in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Finish Button and press the Space Bar.  That’s it, you’re done.  You now have a shortcut on the Desktop for shutting down your computer. 

 

*Note: if you wish to add a Restart the Computer shortcut to the Desktop, you merely have to use the below text when following the above instructions. 

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /r /t 0

 

Thx, Albert

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's what I'm gonna do too

 

.

 

On 7/25/2016 7:39 PM, Arlene wrote:

Thanks! That’s good to know! I know in 7 you will find the shut down. don’t know about tenh. I’ll just do windows x and the letter u twice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different place.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


        This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I know
        the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
        the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
        there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
        Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

        http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

        --
         Steve Hoad








--

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Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Michael Chopra <justforlists689@...>
 

Hi. This is really good. Can you do this for windows 8?

Thanks.

From Michael.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Albert Ruel
Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2016 10:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

I added shortcuts to my desktop for ShutDown and ReStart as follows:

 

1. Windows D to go to the Desktop.

2. Control Space Bar to unselect.

3. Press the Context Menu key and down arrow to New Submenu, then right arrow to open the submenu.  Down arrow to Shortcut and press the Enter key. 

4. Copy and paste the following text in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Next Button and press the Space Bar.

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0

5. Type a Name for your new shortcut in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Finish Button and press the Space Bar.  That’s it, you’re done.  You now have a shortcut on the Desktop for shutting down your computer. 

 

*Note: if you wish to add a Restart the Computer shortcut to the Desktop, you merely have to use the below text when following the above instructions. 

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /r /t 0

 

Thx, Albert

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's what I'm gonna do too

 

.

 

On 7/25/2016 7:39 PM, Arlene wrote:

Thanks! That’s good to know! I know in 7 you will find the shut down. don’t know about tenh. I’ll just do windows x and the letter u twice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different place.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


        This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I know
        the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
        the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
        there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
        Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

        http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

        --
         Steve Hoad








--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
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Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

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Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 

Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Albert Ruel
 

I added shortcuts to my desktop for ShutDown and ReStart as follows:

 

1. Windows D to go to the Desktop.

2. Control Space Bar to unselect.

3. Press the Context Menu key and down arrow to New Submenu, then right arrow to open the submenu.  Down arrow to Shortcut and press the Enter key. 

4. Copy and paste the following text in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Next Button and press the Space Bar.

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 0

5. Type a Name for your new shortcut in the Edit Field that appears, then Tab to the Finish Button and press the Space Bar.  That’s it, you’re done.  You now have a shortcut on the Desktop for shutting down your computer. 

 

*Note: if you wish to add a Restart the Computer shortcut to the Desktop, you merely have to use the below text when following the above instructions. 

C:\Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /r /t 0

 

Thx, Albert

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's what I'm gonna do too

 

.

 

On 7/25/2016 7:39 PM, Arlene wrote:

Thanks! That’s good to know! I know in 7 you will find the shut down. don’t know about tenh. I’ll just do windows x and the letter u twice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different place.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


        This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I know
        the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
        the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
        there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
        Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

        http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

        --
         Steve Hoad








--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess










 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 

 

Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That's what I'm doing now.

On 7/25/2016 7:20 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide. The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles. You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2. I know
the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
the earliest release. Since these updates load automatically, are
there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

--
Steve Hoad







Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That's what I'm gonna do too


.


On 7/25/2016 7:39 PM, Arlene wrote:

Thanks! That’s good to know! I know in 7 you will find the shut down. don’t know about tenh. I’ll just do windows x and the letter u twice.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

That's right, you Windows+x then u then u also works.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Oh okay. Sometimes I use the start to shut down. Or the desktop. So, Now if I ever ended up with ten. I can do windows x and the letter u twice? I’ll probably use the alt f 4 on the desk top.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: July-25-16 7:22 PM


To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Hi Arlene,

 

Yes as you are doing now will work exactly the same in Windows 10.  It's only if you access shut down from the Start menu that it's in a different place.

 

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

Hi, I'd just do windows m like I do now then alt f 4 and enter!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: July-25-16 5:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi, Quentin,

The easiest way for me to shut down is to go to the desktop, hit alt F-4 and hit enter. I also like the windows X, u and u keystroke too. It's similar to how you'd shut down in windows XP.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Anniversary Update

Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start menu is now three columns wide.  The left column has user account / file explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles.  You can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@... <mailto:mainefun40@...> > wrote:


        This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2.  I know
        the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
        the earliest release.  Since these updates load automatically, are
        there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
        Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m. EDT.

        http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

        --
         Steve Hoad








--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/


Ph +61 7 3149 3306 <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306>
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess









 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA E-Book now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Windows 10 Anniversary Update

 

Will we have to reset all our settings for privacy or will they be preserved.
I'll look through them all and such but hmmm.

On 26/07/2016 11:26 a.m., Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Steve,

To be honest, one of the biggest changes I have found, is that the start
menu is now three columns wide. The left column has user account / file
explorer / settings / power, the middle column has recent apps then all
apps (first letter navigation jumps straight to first app of that letter in
full apps list), and the right column has the windows 8 style tiles. You
can still only pin to the right column but at least you can press the
context menu to get recent files for any program there now which is nice.

What annoys me is that to shut down from here involves:
1. Windows
2. tab (takes you to the left column first, if you'd press down arrow you'd
have started moving down the middle app list column).
3. down arrow four times.
4. enter
5. down arrow
6. enter.

If you want to do it quicker, you can press WINDOWS+X , press U then U
again, or windows+m to go to desktop then alt+f4, or just press the power
button on your machine (I know that last one is easiest of all, I've just
never got into the habit of doing it as that used to be strongly avoided
due to data loss :)

There's a new dark mode which you can get to without a registry hack now
which affects mostly just settings but does make it a bit easier for some.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@...> wrote:

This is a major update for Windows 10 being released August 2. I know
the update is out in Beta and many features have been changing since
the earliest release. Since these updates load automatically, are
there things we should be aware of as NVDA users?
Here's an article from "The Verge" released Monday July 25 at about 9 A.m.
EDT.


http://www.theverge.com/2016/7/25/12269736/microsoft-windows-10-anniversary-update-features-review

--
Steve Hoad



Re: [NVDA pronouncing "County" as "Company" in address line

The Gamages
 

Hello Chris and Gene,
 
I’ve just cleared the entry I put in before, all is now back to normal although co is still pronounced company, I think that , because I changed the letters c and o to say coe, every occurrence of these letters, even if contained in other words will be pronounced as I put it in the voice dictionary, so the words could, cooled etc are corupted.
 
There is obviously a way of using the entries in the voice dictionary to affect whole words only, more study needed here on my part.
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 

Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] [NVDA pronouncing "County" as "Company" in address line
 

Try the following to get into the Voice dictionary:

NVDA+n – to open the NVDA menu

P – to open the preferences menu

D – to open the Speech dictionaries menu

V – to open the Voice dictionary dialog

Now press alt+d to list entries.  Use down arrow to move down the list, if nothing is listed, then there are no entries and as Gene says, it is maybe programmed into the synth you are using.  Try pressing alt+a and creating the entry you want, press the OK button when your entry is complete, then the OK button on the next screen.  Do some tests and see what you get.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Gamages
Sent: 26 July 2016 12:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] [NVDA pronouncing "County" as "Company" in address line

 

Hello,

 

I’m going to sound really thick here, I have gone into all three dictionaries and can’t get NVDA to speak the list of entries in either the default dictionary or the voice dictionary. I want to get the word Co to say just that, not company or county , I want this whether there is a full stop after it or not. There is obviously an entry in the list pertaining to this which I want to delete, but first I need to find it in the list, as I said, I can’t get the list spokenin order to focus on this entry.

Can anyone elaborate on how to read the list?  Thank you in advance.

 

Best Regards, Jim.

 

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 12:00 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] [NVDA pronouncing "County" as "Company" in address line

 

You can do this via the speech dictionaries.  To edit the dictionary:

 

1. Press NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu

2. Press P for preferences

3. Press enter or d for default dictionary, v for voice dictionary or t for temporary dictionary:

 

·  Default: rules in this dictionary affect all speech in NVDA.

·  Voice: rules in this dictionary affect speech for the synthesizer voice currently being used.

·  Temporary: rules in this dictionary affect all speech in NVDA, but only for the current session. These rules are temporary and will be lost if NVDA is restarted.

4. Press alt+a to add a new rule

5. Type "co." (with the dot but without the quotes)

6. Press tab

7. Type the new word (county)

8. Press enter

9. Press TAB four times to get to the OK button

10. Press ENTER.

 

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

I wonder if anyone can advise how I can get NVDA to say “County” when it meets the contraction “Co.” in an address line?

 

I am using “ETI Eloquence” as my speech engine in NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10.

 

This is the common way to present the County in both the UK and Ireland. For example, I live in County Wicklow and this is represented in my address line as “Co. Wicklow”. However, NVDA says “Company Wicklow” every time!

How can I fix this?

All advice and thoughts are welcome.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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