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Re: Start menu search box missing

Chris Mullins
 

Cuong

Press Windows+d to move to the Desktop, then press tab.  This should move you to the “Start button”, press enter.  After pressing enter, please describe what is announced, then press tab and describe what is announced next.  Continue pressing tab and describing what you hear until the system loops back to what you first heard.

 

Cheers

 

Chris 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dang Manh Cuong
Sent: 15 January 2017 07:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Start menu search box missing

 

To all listers
My wife's laptop installed Windows 10, has lost the search box on start menu. How to solve this.
When I use NVDA, and press the Start menu key, it just says: pin view, and I can't type anything to search.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA

Gene
 

You can download the installation file to allow you to work with docx files here:
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

if you could please send the link to your dropbox, that would be very much appreciated. I also am considering using chart, but don't really want to pay the money for it partially because I don't have the money for it.

Noah Carver

> On Jan 15, 2017, at 15:16, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
>
> I would like to caution users that use an microsoft product, ie office 2013 and up certainly it does this on 2016.
> Aparently the older software has some incompatibility when upgrading the os from one version to another.
> It tends to default extentions back to open xml viewer which itself is not helpfull.
> Worse excell refuses to be able to process file commands and can not start until you repair office.
> For the systems that had filter pack aand the compatibility pack installed, I solved this by removing both these packs then repairing office as on restart no files opened at all.
> Ever since then updates have worked as expected.
> If you are on a shared system with office.
> Every time you update the os especially when its a security update not a performance update, including newer and older office updates, you will need to repair office with the quick repair before using it again.
> I am not sure why that is but thats a way to get round it.
> If you often need a share then thats fine but if you don't it is easier to kill the extra converter packs.
> I should also want to add that I have old word xp converters for some older files that came from an xp machine that perminantly exist on my dropbox cloud, they are so small just like xp sound recorder its unlikely I will ever kill them so they stay till I die I guess.
> I have no inttention of killing them.
> The only thing you do need is sevenzip to decompress them but if someone wants to make an installer email me and I'll send the link for copywrite reasons jarte can't store those on its site but.
>
>
>> On 16/01/2017 12:20 a.m., Gene wrote:
>> It doesn't need the purchased  version.  You can install the Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read docx files.  if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you that.  It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the subject is discussed further.
>> We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the program to see if it does.
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>> From: Brian's Mail list account
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA
>>
>>
>> The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
>> version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
>> docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
>> some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like read
>> all etc.
>>
>> Of course it might  be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
>> Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
>> Legal?  Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
>> away, then who cares.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal email to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
>> Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>> My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
>>> backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
>>> if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
>>> NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
>>> it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> The most used features in Word for me are:
>>>
>>> The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
>>> Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
>>> get flagged;
>>>
>>> The word-counter;
>>>
>>> Page-breaks;
>>>
>>> Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).
>>>
>>> If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
>>> and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>





Re: accessible word processors with NVDA

 

if you could please send the link to your dropbox, that would be very much appreciated. I also am considering using chart, but don't really want to pay the money for it partially because I don't have the money for it.

Noah Carver

On Jan 15, 2017, at 15:16, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

I would like to caution users that use an microsoft product, ie office 2013 and up certainly it does this on 2016.
Aparently the older software has some incompatibility when upgrading the os from one version to another.
It tends to default extentions back to open xml viewer which itself is not helpfull.
Worse excell refuses to be able to process file commands and can not start until you repair office.
For the systems that had filter pack aand the compatibility pack installed, I solved this by removing both these packs then repairing office as on restart no files opened at all.
Ever since then updates have worked as expected.
If you are on a shared system with office.
Every time you update the os especially when its a security update not a performance update, including newer and older office updates, you will need to repair office with the quick repair before using it again.
I am not sure why that is but thats a way to get round it.
If you often need a share then thats fine but if you don't it is easier to kill the extra converter packs.
I should also want to add that I have old word xp converters for some older files that came from an xp machine that perminantly exist on my dropbox cloud, they are so small just like xp sound recorder its unlikely I will ever kill them so they stay till I die I guess.
I have no inttention of killing them.
The only thing you do need is sevenzip to decompress them but if someone wants to make an installer email me and I'll send the link for copywrite reasons jarte can't store those on its site but.


On 16/01/2017 12:20 a.m., Gene wrote:
It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the subject is discussed further.
We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the program to see if it does.

Gene


From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like read
all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.








Re: Start menu search box missing

Kevin Cussick
 

this seems to be a long standing bug, now and again this happens I had it happen on one computer the only real fix is reset the pc! or install the classic shell I would rather reset if it was me.

On 15/01/2017 07:48, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:
To all listers
My wife's laptop installed Windows 10, has lost the search box on start
menu. How to solve this.
When I use NVDA, and press the Start menu key, it just says: pin view,
and I can't type anything to search.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong
---------------
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The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
391 Lac Long Quan, ward 5, Dst 11, HCMC, Vietnam
Tel: +84862573309
E-mail: vanphong@...
<mailto:vanphong@...>; congnghe@...
<mailto:congnghe@...>
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Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

 

Mouse stuff is fine, its just that windows touch is not as
good as it could bee which in it self is a bit of a downer.

On 15/01/2017 11:32 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Argh. I always unplug mouses and turn off mouse pads on my machines.
There is far too great a risk of it doing something silly otherwise.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease
#adminnotice #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder
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Also, since mouse tracking is on by default, even if you don't use the
mouse or mouse pad routinely, all you need to do is randomly move the
mouse around and NVDA will start talking if it's ready to speak.

On laptops I routinely tell my clients not to disable the mousepad, but
to cover it with a small square of stiff cardboard taped down on one
side so that it can be flipped open like a book. This way they can use
the native left and right mouse buttons if they so desire and, when
someone sighted wants/needs to use their computer, the mouse feature is
there at the flip of a piece of cardboard. For those with desktop
machines with an optical mouse one can do the same thing by covering the
opening for the laser on the underside of the mouse. This allows it to
be used for "is NVDA awake" checking with ease and then you flip the
cover over the laser and put the mouse back down again, which also gives
you access to the native left and right mouse click buttons if you wish
to use them.
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Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

 

Well sometimes I get that to be honest it could be a number of things, my wireless gets knocked off all the time wireless is not as stable as wired and it can get interfierence.
If its doing that then faulty hardware or drivers is the first.
Next I'd try updating the bios.
I don't know, I have forgot but somewhere in manuals or if you use support or call your computer company there should be a command to do a reformat of the bios.
Its to make sure the bios has refreshed when updating sometimes it doesn't.
That can lead to issues.

On 15/01/2017 11:27 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
No but I do have some issues with some machines coming back from
hibernate not seeing the network be it hard wired or wifi, which is a
great shame as as you say, nvda seems pretty good.
I guess you could just try it. I don't see how this might be possible as
hibernate is like a snapshot I always thought having no idea its been
away, so to speak.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Stivers"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease
#adminnotice #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder
#cal-invite #adminnotice


All,

I have my laptop set up to sleep when I close the lid while plugged in
and hibernate when I close the lid on battery. This is working well as
far as NVDA coming back when I return from sleep, but I would like a way
to get a spoken announcement when the computer is ready to use after
waking up.

Before I start trying to put something together with an add-on for NVDA
or an autoHotKey script I'd like to know if anyone else has solved this.

Thank you,

Thomas



.


Re: accessible word processors with NVDA

 

I would like to caution users that use an microsoft product, ie office 2013 and up certainly it does this on 2016.
Aparently the older software has some incompatibility when upgrading the os from one version to another.
It tends to default extentions back to open xml viewer which itself is not helpfull.
Worse excell refuses to be able to process file commands and can not start until you repair office.
For the systems that had filter pack aand the compatibility pack installed, I solved this by removing both these packs then repairing office as on restart no files opened at all.
Ever since then updates have worked as expected.
If you are on a shared system with office.
Every time you update the os especially when its a security update not a performance update, including newer and older office updates, you will need to repair office with the quick repair before using it again.
I am not sure why that is but thats a way to get round it.
If you often need a share then thats fine but if you don't it is easier to kill the extra converter packs.
I should also want to add that I have old word xp converters for some older files that came from an xp machine that perminantly exist on my dropbox cloud, they are so small just like xp sound recorder its unlikely I will ever kill them so they stay till I die I guess.
I have no inttention of killing them.
The only thing you do need is sevenzip to decompress them but if someone wants to make an installer email me and I'll send the link for copywrite reasons jarte can't store those on its site but.

On 16/01/2017 12:20 a.m., Gene wrote:
It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the subject is discussed further.
We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the program to see if it does.

Gene


From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like read
all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.







Re: possible obj pad bug not sure

 

AAh I am switching back and foreward with control s for speech and using control a lot.
The keyboard shouldn't get stuck but sometimes windows thinks I am typing in double letters.
Technically the unit is a 2.5ghz duel i5 so in theory it should just do its thing.
I don't necessarily need to run a full net and other session, but it does mean I have to choose times where I can play the game and have it as the sole program running which in itself isn't the best thing.
The only saving grace is that I am nott flying anything stupid, its an easy one no hard challenges to handle so that is itself fine.
Its just a shame that nvda does this, or windows or something.
I guess I will have to eventually upgrade the cpu and memmory then, this thing is at least 3-5 years old I guess.

On 16/01/2017 4:55 a.m., Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Looks like control key gets stuck somehow and Windows thinks that key is held down.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] possible obj pad bug not sure

Hi.
Well I have been playing eurofly for some time.
if I kill nvda nice errrors come up, but as long as I don't kill it thats fine.
The reall issue happened a few days ago but got worst today.
I have obj pad, ventrilo which I use ffor testing but I have the beta addon well had because I now killed it and obj ppad.
I had a few extra security addons on firefox and such but even so that was not the big issue at alll.
I have easy table navigator installed to.
I had firefox, a downloads folder open, and an audio track playing with winamp.
I had just finished something with firefox 50.1 and closed it.
Sometimes it crashes but mostly its fine at any rate I had finished with it.
Nvda decided to be stuck in a table, this has happened before when quitting ventrilo but I have alt tab and its fine.
This time it decided to lock, a thing it has done in the past.
Half of the keys stopped working.
The first time I exited and it came back.
This time though, if I hit caps key and tab I was switching from scan to web to normal.
So I assume something was making objpad or nvda in general think it was in a strange mode.
No keys worked and I had to power off the computer and luckily it shut down.
When I mean no keys, nothing read right at all.
On a full reboot nvda now works but I have removed easy table nav, ventrilo, golden curser and objpad and hopefully things just work as they are supposed to.
It only works with that combination of things open.
It never happens if its one at a time though this game does use a lot of power.
I have used it before with winamp and firefox open, never large radio broadcast archives I usually pause the game for those.






Re: accessible word processors with NVDA

 

When I got it it was 35 dollars I assume its that way now.

On 15/01/2017 11:40 p.m., Peter Beasley wrote:
I don't know how much Jarte plus costs these days, when I bought it over
10 years ago it cost me $15.
-----Original Message----- From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like
read
all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward"
<sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have
everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.










Re: OCR software?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Nasrin,

I found a file but there's no way you can convert it to text. You'll have to accept that fact. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

hi rosemarie.
i wish that open my pdf files with firefox and convert them into txt.
could you please test it and give me the result?
after openning file, press control+s and select text document for type of file for saving.

On 1/15/17, slery <slerythema@...> wrote:
Really? Please tell me where the OCR function is and how to access it
in my HP Officejet 7500 E910.



I have not found this ocr function and the software that comes with
the printer is not accessible. In fact, I bought a $27 program to scan
into pdf my important files (using Kurzweil to keep the images scans
prints them in a very reduced size to make them mostly unusable by sighted people).



Cindy



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?



One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context
or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder
scanner.
2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image
itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web
browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new,
scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part
of its manufacturers software suite. Canon, HP, Kodak, and other
multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with
OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control
software was also accessible by screen reader. I've been using
Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one
(read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included
with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent
free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100%
accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable
level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're
not scanning documents in English. See either PDF-XChange Viewer
<https://www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads/discontinued> or
PDF-XChange Editor <https://www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads> .

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off
the top of my head.

--
Brian

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illusion of profundity.

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Re: OCR software?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don't have a file to test.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?

hi rosemarie.
i wish that open my pdf files with firefox and convert them into txt.
could you please test it and give me the result?
after openning file, press control+s and select text document for type of file for saving.

On 1/15/17, slery <slerythema@...> wrote:
Really? Please tell me where the OCR function is and how to access it
in my HP Officejet 7500 E910.



I have not found this ocr function and the software that comes with
the printer is not accessible. In fact, I bought a $27 program to scan
into pdf my important files (using Kurzweil to keep the images scans
prints them in a very reduced size to make them mostly unusable by sighted people).



Cindy



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR software?



One of the things I'm having trouble understanding here is the context
or contexts for the OCR processing being discussed:

1. At the time of scanning an actual print document on a flatbed or feeder
scanner.
2. In an existing document, such as an image scanned PDF or an actual image
itself that is known to be an image of a page of text.
3. "On the fly" in something that's an image being presented in, say, a web
browser that one would like to have read.

Virtually any relatively recent, and by that I do not mean new,
scanner or multi-function machine will come with an OCR engine as part
of its manufacturers software suite. Canon, HP, Kodak, and other
multi-function machines I've worked with were all able to scan with
OCR as part of the scan and, as it happened, their scanner control
software was also accessible by screen reader. I've been using
Canon's multi-functions for years now, and even the cheapest one
(read: cost about $30 ten years ago) had a software suite included
with it that featured OCR as an integral part of scanning if one identified what one was scanning as a document.

I've repeatedly mentioned that Tracker Software makes two excellent
free pieces of software that, while not 100% accessible, are 100%
accessible for doing OCR processing on image PDFs with a remarkable
level of accuracy and that also feature free language packs if you're
not scanning documents in English. See either PDF-XChange Viewer
<https://www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads/discontinued> or
PDF-XChange Editor <https://www.tracker-software.com/product/downloads> .

The "on the fly" instance is one where I don't know of anything off
the top of my head.

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Brian

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illusion of profundity.

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Re: accessible word processors with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I haven't worked enough with libre office to know about that.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

And for Spanish use? How's Libre Office with NVDA?

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El 14/01/2017, a las 11:52 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> escribió:

Jarte is free and has a spell checker. That's what I use for word processing.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.








Re: OCR software?

 

Cindy,

            There also appears to have been a firmware update for your machine last September, downloadable here.  Although that should have nothing at all to do with accessibility of the scanning software it's generally a good idea to keep the firmware for any device up to date.

--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    



Re: OCR software?

 

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:57 pm, slery wrote:
Really? Please tell me where the OCR function is and how to access it in my HP Officejet 7500 E910.

See the User Guide for your machine, PDF page 48, that documents doing this using the HP Software that comes with the printer under the section entitled, Scanning documents as editable text.  I cannot speak to why it would not be accessible, as I've never used this particular model, but I have used HP multi-function machines with the full-featured software suite and driver (the one for your machine is downloadable here) with screen readers without difficulty.  There have been times, not limited in any way to HP software, where a given piece of software would not "play well" with a given screen reader and another screen reader would work perfectly with it.  It's always worth checking.
--
Brian

 He discloses the workings of a mind to which incoherence lends an illusion of profundity.

         ~ T. De Vere White

    



Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

 

On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 02:32 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
There is far too great a risk of it doing something silly otherwise.

Actually, there really isn't if you're mindful about what's set up and you follow the advice I've given.   Been there, done that with more clients than I care to count.

There is an irrational fear of the mouse on the whole, and you make one of NVDA's more powerful features, mouse tracking, useless when you make it impossible to use the mouse or mousepad.

But to each his or her own. 

--
Brian

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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released

 

Hi,

Yes, you have Anniversary Update, so go ahead and use 17.01.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released

 

Hi Joseph!
Thanks, i am using:
14393.693)
If I understand correctly, I can now cheerfully pass this new version:
Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01
Thanks again for all!
Have a good day!
Cheers since France.
Rémy

Le 14/01/2017 20:53, Joseph Lee a écrit :

Hi,

Open Start, type “winver” (without quotes) and press ENTER. If you are hearing builds other than 1024, 10586 and 14393, you are running an Insider Preview build.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 11:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 released

 

Hi Josephe,
Thanks for jour job!
Sorry how to know if i am using  Windows Insider build?
For me Windows ten is new! :)
Thanks very much.
Cheers since France.
Rémy

Le 14/01/2017 18:08, Joseph Lee a écrit :

Hi everyone,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 17.01 is now available:

https://github.com/josephsl/wintenApps/releases/tag/17.01

 

Important: if you are using Windows Insider build 15002 or later, please do NOT use this build – you should either use the latest development snapshot or wait until add-on 17.02 comes out. Also, this version is the last one to support NVDA 2016.3 or earlier.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: possible obj pad bug not sure

 

Hi,
Looks like control key gets stuck somehow and Windows thinks that key is held down.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] possible obj pad bug not sure

Hi.
Well I have been playing eurofly for some time.
if I kill nvda nice errrors come up, but as long as I don't kill it thats fine.
The reall issue happened a few days ago but got worst today.
I have obj pad, ventrilo which I use ffor testing but I have the beta addon well had because I now killed it and obj ppad.
I had a few extra security addons on firefox and such but even so that was not the big issue at alll.
I have easy table navigator installed to.
I had firefox, a downloads folder open, and an audio track playing with winamp.
I had just finished something with firefox 50.1 and closed it.
Sometimes it crashes but mostly its fine at any rate I had finished with it.
Nvda decided to be stuck in a table, this has happened before when quitting ventrilo but I have alt tab and its fine.
This time it decided to lock, a thing it has done in the past.
Half of the keys stopped working.
The first time I exited and it came back.
This time though, if I hit caps key and tab I was switching from scan to web to normal.
So I assume something was making objpad or nvda in general think it was in a strange mode.
No keys worked and I had to power off the computer and luckily it shut down.
When I mean no keys, nothing read right at all.
On a full reboot nvda now works but I have removed easy table nav, ventrilo, golden curser and objpad and hopefully things just work as they are supposed to.
It only works with that combination of things open.
It never happens if its one at a time though this game does use a lot of power.
I have used it before with winamp and firefox open, never large radio broadcast archives I usually pause the game for those.


More on Firefox xp and older processors support

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Here is what you are pointed at if you do an update check when running on an Athlon or Sempron which has no sse2 support in its instruction set.

Your hardware is no longer supported
If your computer has a processor older than Pentium 4, Firefox version 49 and above is no longer supported.
If Firefox is already installed on your computer, you can continue using it but you will not receive updates beyond version 48. If you download Firefox version 49 or above and try to install it, you will see the message, Firefox cannot be installed. This version of Firefox requires a processor with SSE2 support.
Like many programs, newer versions of Firefox require a processor that supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2 (SSE2) for better security and performance. We recommend a computer with a Pentium 4 or newer processor that supports SSE2 to use the latest version of Firefox, which has more features, stability and security.
Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) will continue to work with older processors but will not receive updates beyond ESR version 45. Firefox ESR version 52, scheduled for release in March 2017, will no longer be supported.

Clear as mud in many ways, but from the AMD standpoint its clear enough. One supposes the second part of this might well point at operating systems like xp and Vista.
Time marches on of course, and I suppose keeping track of special code to use different routines on very different processors and operating systems must be a minefield in itself.
Brian


Re: accessible word processors with NVDA

Gerardo Corripio
 

And for Spanish use? How's Libre Office with NVDA?

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Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S

El 14/01/2017, a las 11:52 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> escribió:

Jarte is free and has a spell checker. That's what I use for word processing.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.








Re: Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder

Thomas Stivers
 

Windows sends a message to running programs when it returns from sleep or hibernation. The power notify add-on uses this to cause NVDA to beep as soon as the computer is awake. It also speaks when the AC adapter is plugged or unplugged. The add-on is pretty basic, but it gets the job done.

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Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder #cal-invite innotice

No but I do have some issues with some machines coming back from hibernate not seeing the network be it hard wired or wifi, which is a great shame as as you say, nvda seems pretty good.
I guess you could just try it. I don't see how this might be possible as hibernate is like a snapshot I always thought having no idea its been away, so to speak.
Brian

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From: "Thomas Stivers" <@Thomas_Stivers>
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Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 3:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] Returning from Sleep or Hybernation #addonrelease #adminnotice #addonrelease #adminnotice #cal-invite #cal-reminder #cal-invite #adminnotice


All,

I have my laptop set up to sleep when I close the lid while plugged in and hibernate when I close the lid on battery. This is working well as far as NVDA coming back when I return from sleep, but I would like a way to get a spoken announcement when the computer is ready to use after waking up.

Before I start trying to put something together with an add-on for NVDA or an autoHotKey script I'd like to know if anyone else has solved this.

Thank you,

Thomas