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found a very good player that plays many formats

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

I just wanted to tell you all I found a very good player. The player is called sm player It supports just about any format as well as youtube links. I know some one was looking for a good player on this list. Well sm player is the answer. You can get this player at www.filehorse.com or you can get this player at www.filehippo.com or the main address butt I don't have the main web address for this player. Enjoy and let me know what you think of sm player.


locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I played with this WebIE (version 4--supposedly latest version) and while it does work somewhat, I have great wait times when accessing pages with large graphics or embedded audio. 


A few weeks ago, I posted a query to this list and some others concerning solutions for this issue and got absolutely no response.



On 12/21/2016 5:02 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

David,

           I'd say you're accurate just by saying that IE11 is now long out of date, and WebbIE is subject to whatever issues that in itself entails.  It appears that Alasdair King continues to maintain WebbIE as there are two updates in 2016, the last one noted as this month, on the WebbIE web page under the Version History section and he gets into details about said updates on the WebbIE Blog Page.

           I agree, though, that it really amounts to throwing good effort after bad to pursue anything that has IE11 as its underlying web browsing technology these days.  While IE11 is still getting security updates it is under no further development.  Web coding conventions have changed enough since development stopped for that to already be a functional concern.  Now there's no screen reader maker I know of that's throwing a lot of focus on IE going forward since it's been supplanted in the marketplace by Chrome and Firefox and Microsoft is intent on making Edge its flagship web browser.  There's a lot more interest in keeping on top of these three browsers while IE is going to become more and more a stepchild and will eventually likely end up unsupported beyond what already exists (which is substantial, but still, the writing's on the wall).
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



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locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

David,

           I'd say you're accurate just by saying that IE11 is now long out of date, and WebbIE is subject to whatever issues that in itself entails.  It appears that Alasdair King continues to maintain WebbIE as there are two updates in 2016, the last one noted as this month, on the WebbIE web page under the Version History section and he gets into details about said updates on the WebbIE Blog Page.

           I agree, though, that it really amounts to throwing good effort after bad to pursue anything that has IE11 as its underlying web browsing technology these days.  While IE11 is still getting security updates it is under no further development.  Web coding conventions have changed enough since development stopped for that to already be a functional concern.  Now there's no screen reader maker I know of that's throwing a lot of focus on IE going forward since it's been supplanted in the marketplace by Chrome and Firefox and Microsoft is intent on making Edge its flagship web browser.  There's a lot more interest in keeping on top of these three browsers while IE is going to become more and more a stepchild and will eventually likely end up unsupported beyond what already exists (which is substantial, but still, the writing's on the wall).
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,

 

I do have google chrome now.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Yes, Rosemarie,

the webbie browser is way out of date, and many features that are on web pages will not work with webbie, and many features in JAWS like aria will not work either. You are really limiting yourself using webbie over a current up to date browser like firefox or Chrome, or even Edge with NVDA.

David Moore

 

From: Gene

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:21 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Didn't you have that problem before?  How did you solve it with another browser. 

 

Gene

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:25 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

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briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>


locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

David Moore
 

Yes, Rosemarie,
the webbie browser is way out of date, and many features that are on web pages will not work with webbie, and many features in JAWS like aria will not work either. You are really limiting yourself using webbie over a current up to date browser like firefox or Chrome, or even Edge with NVDA.
David Moore
 

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
 
Didn't you have that problem before?  How did you solve it with another browser. 
 
Gene
 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser
 

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>



Configuration now sorted

Clive Pallett
 

Hello Brian and Gene,

Thank you very much for your help. My laptop does have a physical numberpad, so with my wife's help I located the insert key, and after opening the configuration menu, soon changed the keyboard layout to laptop and the hotkey to Capslock. I then set my other preferences and saved my settings. All well now.

Best wishes,

Clive Pallett


locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I got it now.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Oh that’s strange! I hope you get it sorted out.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-21-16 11:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

I was using my own computer.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Yes, I think so.  I’ve seen this when I had a problem trying to sign in using another device that was mine. I should say a friend’s device while I was on vacation in my own state.  Canada When I got home I had to go into the e-mail on our IPhone to allow it. then the problem went away. I could not get my gmail in my inbox. When I allowed the IPhone to my gmail. The problem went away. Did you try signing into your gmail on another device? Or were you using your own computer?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-21-16 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>


locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Arlene
 

Oh that’s strange! I hope you get it sorted out.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-21-16 11:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

I was using my own computer.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Yes, I think so.  I’ve seen this when I had a problem trying to sign in using another device that was mine. I should say a friend’s device while I was on vacation in my own state.  Canada When I got home I had to go into the e-mail on our IPhone to allow it. then the problem went away. I could not get my gmail in my inbox. When I allowed the IPhone to my gmail. The problem went away. Did you try signing into your gmail on another device? Or were you using your own computer?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-21-16 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>


locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I don't remember right now.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Didn't you have that problem before?  How did you solve it with another browser. 

 

Gene

 

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:25 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>


locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Gene
 

You wouldn't be taken to a create a new account page if you were using a new device or browser.  You might be asked to authenticate the new device in some way or to sign in with your user information but being taken to a create a new account page indicates another problem.  I don't know if the problem is user error with Webbie, some sort of incompatibility, or one or more settings that need to be changed. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Yes, I think so.  I’ve seen this when I had a problem trying to sign in using another device that was mine. I should say a friend’s device while I was on vacation in my own state.  Canada When I got home I had to go into the e-mail on our IPhone to allow it. then the problem went away. I could not get my gmail in my inbox. When I allowed the IPhone to my gmail. The problem went away. Did you try signing into your gmail on another device? Or were you using your own computer?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-21-16 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>


locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I was using my own computer.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Yes, I think so.  I’ve seen this when I had a problem trying to sign in using another device that was mine. I should say a friend’s device while I was on vacation in my own state.  Canada When I got home I had to go into the e-mail on our IPhone to allow it. then the problem went away. I could not get my gmail in my inbox. When I allowed the IPhone to my gmail. The problem went away. Did you try signing into your gmail on another device? Or were you using your own computer?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-21-16 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: dropbox working

 

I got a ticket and was told to reply to it, but direct links work again and have continued to work.
As long as that does I won't have to handle dropbox directly.
As long as that simple function continues, dropbox and me will be fine.

On 21/12/2016 11:27 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I'd take issue with you on this. I have had replies back from several
named persons who have created tickets for me and eventually fixed the
issue. It is true to say as is often the case that they do not fully
understand the blind experience, and this has been shows by their badge
systems recently introduced, but in the main they do tend to fix things.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox working


Well I am just happy direct links work.
Sadly its clear that they do not respond to users. because I just got
a standard automated responce saying use the self service options.
Or the forums and many had the same issues I had.
It seems to be fixed for now.
Dropbox is a good service as long as it works that is.
I swear it must be staffed by cybermen its the only explanation I can
think of.



On 19/12/2016 10:01 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Well I got a notice to an email address I closed the account on but not
on the new account email.
Very strange indeed.
There has been several notices recently telling of upcoming changes, or
improvements as they prefer to call them. to me they are in grave danger
of driving away the simple user who does not wantbadges collaborations
sharing folders etc, and only ever uses it to keep several machines able
to see a core of files and use the public links on places like this to
help out other users.
The did a while ago say they would not support XP and logged everybody
out then without any kind of announcement we coould all log in again and
use it on Intel chipped machines running xp, but not amd ones, but since
they also told us how to stop the client updating as well, and the 13
version still works, then it seems one arm of their organisation is
working one way, while another is doibing something else and not
explaining what they are doing very well either.
They do need to be careful as there are other players out there still
offering public links to cloud stored files.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox working


Well I use them lots. But I never got a notice! For some strange reason
I never got one.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December-18-16 7:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox working



As far as I know, you will get such a notice even if you didn't sign
up. I got a notice last week. As far as I recall, I didn't elect to
get the newsletters. If you don't use public links, I don't know if you
will get such a notice but I have public links and I did.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene <mailto:nedster66@...>

Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 9:09 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox working



Hi Gene If you sign up for Drop Box news letters. They send them to you.
I have’nt signed up. But friends who did sent me messages saying that
your public folder is going private as of March 15 next year.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: December-18-16 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] dropbox working



The message I received only a few days ago said nothing about any other
subject than that public links would be dropped in March of next year.
I see no reason, since Drop Box is working again, and since nothing else
was mentioned, to believe that Drop Box is changing anything else.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Shaun Everiss <mailto:@smeveriss>

Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 2:43 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] dropbox working



Hi.
Hmmm maybe dropbox crashed, it appears that everything works now as I
expected.
Dropbox.com stopped working for a little but is now back.
If it was a failier then false alarm.
If it was dropbox responding to everyone ranting at them, then I can't
complain.
I just hope they don't mangle it all again because I wasn't happy
about it.
It seems that it works though as it should with direct downloads, as
long as that works I won't have to bother about their inaccessible
webpage which I can't seem to get things to work on.






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locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Arlene
 

Yes, I think so.  I’ve seen this when I had a problem trying to sign in using another device that was mine. I should say a friend’s device while I was on vacation in my own state.  Canada When I got home I had to go into the e-mail on our IPhone to allow it. then the problem went away. I could not get my gmail in my inbox. When I allowed the IPhone to my gmail. The problem went away. Did you try signing into your gmail on another device? Or were you using your own computer?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December-21-16 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
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Re: Configuration menu

Gene
 

Also, though it's very very unlikely, if you can't use the insert key for some reason, you can open the NVDA menu from the system tray by right clicking it.  Then open preferences as usual and proceed as usual. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Configuration menu

Clive,

           NVDA defaults (or always has in my experience) to desktop keyboard layout since the vast majority of laptops now have number pads as part of their keyboards.  As Gene has already noted, you will use Insert as the NVDA key until you change your keyboard layout to Laptop, after which it will by the Caps Lock that you're used to.

           As Gene also noted, if the keyboard on your machine actually has a "hard" insert key you can use that.  Number Pad zero, when number lock is off, has been the "soft" insert key on every machine I've touched in years (though I'm certain that out there, somewhere, is a keyboard layout that doesn't use it).
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



Re: Configuration menu

 

Clive,

           NVDA defaults (or always has in my experience) to desktop keyboard layout since the vast majority of laptops now have number pads as part of their keyboards.  As Gene has already noted, you will use Insert as the NVDA key until you change your keyboard layout to Laptop, after which it will by the Caps Lock that you're used to.

           As Gene also noted, if the keyboard on your machine actually has a "hard" insert key you can use that.  Number Pad zero, when number lock is off, has been the "soft" insert key on every machine I've touched in years (though I'm certain that out there, somewhere, is a keyboard layout that doesn't use it).
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



Re: NVDA development: Making sure NVDA source code/API documentation becomes one of the greatest out there in helping new developers

Bob J
 

Over the years, I have found that one of the best aids to understanding code when it is revisited for whatever reason is to create code with meaningful identifier names.  The task of maintaining code written by others can be challenging enough without trying to remember the significance of identifiers with cryptic names.
 
Bob
 

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA development: Making sure NVDA source code/API documentation becomes one of the greatest out there in helping new developers

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 02:19 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
However, I suspect that most people when writing code kind of get it as a flash of inspiration or stream of consciousness then debug it from memory and then forget by the end what in fact needed to be commented as they understood it themselves so to speak.

Yes, this is a tangent, but a closely related one.    I can absolutely relate to getting a top-down "how I'm going to do this overall" flash of inspiration with regard to programming solutions.  My period of time for that was traditionally just before I dropped off to sleep, which is why I got in the habit of keeping a notepad handy to write down what that flash of high-level inspiration was.   If I had just a very brief note I could generally bring it all back the next day, but often if I had nothing the only thing I could recall is that I'd had a flash of insight but no functional recollection of the nature of that insight.

But the coding itself was still, even when it was utterly fluid, something that I self-taught myself to comment when it was being written in terms of what the code segment that followed a comment was intended to do at whatever functional level made sense for the comment.  It was never a "line by line" thing.

One can, with great personal effort, get in that habit.   One can also, as a project lead, with great effort (and, usually, a period of being intensely "hated" by those you're supervising), create a culture where commenting is a must.  Rejecting great, big, hundreds-of-lines of code with nary a comment, even if it works perfectly, is often required.   I have yet to find those who are focusing the hatred during the period where this is new not coming round to bless the person who forced the issue when they have to come back in say, six month's time or longer, and try to update that code in some way.  There always seems to be a period of intense struggle, though, as the "I don't need to comment my code - it's self evident" crowd persists in that delusion and that delusion is strong.
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



Re: Configuration menu

Gene
 

Use the insert key.  You can use the numpad insert key if you have one or just the regular insert key.  So that command is, either insert key and the letter n. 
then, when the menu is opened, look for keyboard in the menu and press enter.  Tab through the items.  You will find the one you want.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Configuration menu

Hello Brian,

My NVDA shortcut key, Capslock, is not working as NVDA has reset to default settings as per a fresh install.  I am trying to get into the configuration menu to reset my preferences and reset my NVDA shortcut key.  How do I do this?  I am running Windows 10 on alaptop.

Best wishes,

Clive Pallett

On 21/12/2016 17:16, Brian Vogel wrote:

Clive,

             NVDA+N brings up the NVDA Main Menu which includes the Configurations management options as well as Preferences, Tools, and Help .  If you're looking for detailed information about resetting preferences and then creating a profile from what you've configured that goes well beyond the scope of what I can offer easily and quickly.
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    




Re: Configuration menu

Clive Pallett
 

Hello Brian,

My NVDA shortcut key, Capslock, is not working as NVDA has reset to default settings as per a fresh install.  I am trying to get into the configuration menu to reset my preferences and reset my NVDA shortcut key.  How do I do this?  I am running Windows 10 on alaptop.

Best wishes,

Clive Pallett

On 21/12/2016 17:16, Brian Vogel wrote:

Clive,

             NVDA+N brings up the NVDA Main Menu which includes the Configurations management options as well as Preferences, Tools, and Help .  If you're looking for detailed information about resetting preferences and then creating a profile from what you've configured that goes well beyond the scope of what I can offer easily and quickly.
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    




focus mode read problem

Olcay AŞCI
 

Hi everyone

 

Visual Studio code, Excel etc in Web applications like online looking the reading in the focus mode I can't use gestures. I'm waiting for an urgent solution on this issue.

 

Windows 10 için Posta ile gönderildi

 


locked Re: trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Gene
 

Didn't you have that problem before?  How did you solve it with another browser. 
 
Gene

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

Hi, Gene,

 

When I tried to sign in, I was taken to something like "create an account". I wonder if secuirty might have something to do with it.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

When you present a problem, please present details.  Saying you had a problem doesn't allow anyone to know if they are addressing the problem you had.

 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:22 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser

 

The issue to me is that Webbie is in fact just a front end of Internet
explorer, so in my experience much of the more modern coding in pages cannot
be seen by it these days.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:08 AM
Subject: [nvda] trying to find my gmail account in the webbie browser


> Hi, everyone,
>
>
>
> I just tried to sign in to my gmail account using the webbie browser but
> am
> having a problem. If any of you use it, what do you do?
>
>
>
> Thanks four your help in advance.
>
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>