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Re: NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

 

hi joseph.
i realy appreciate you for your direct link.
i wish that i can donate to your project in the future.
i tested your links and they work properly for me.

On 12/17/16, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
no its fine I have used it on that and its ok 128 is bad though but 256
is ok as long as you are carefull.



On 17/12/2016 4:42 a.m., Antony Stone wrote:
Windows XP in 256 MB of RAM!?

Surely that's almost unusable, with or without NVDA?

Antony.

On Friday 16 December 2016 at 16:40:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Generally speaking, you'll need Windows XP SP2 or above, a gigahertz
processor or faster, at least 256 MB of RAM and 90 MB free space on your
drive. Cheers,
Joseph

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nasrin
khaksar Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

whats the system requirements for nvda 2017.1?
i am realy curious about it and the new features and changes of nvda.


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Re: Someone got access to my computer

Arlene
 

Yes, I’d call the disability Microsoft number. then change your passwords then nobody can get into your computer.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: December-16-16 5:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hi Gene,

I really appreciate it.

I will call the MS accessibility number, and see what they can do or suggest as well.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 

 

gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

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Re: Someone got access to my computer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Oh that's hilarious that your dad pretended to be a cop. I bet that made the scammer hang up in a hurry.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

It effects everyone, I repeat everyone.
I had this happen to us for 5 days straight till my dad in a deep voice pretended to be a cop, they went in a hurry.



On 17/12/2016 1:46 p.m., Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hello David,


Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian
accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been
alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer. They want me
to let them remote in to my system. This has been a scam that has been
affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several
technical lists I am subscribed to. I simply hang up. Microsoft never
calls you unsolicited for anything at all.


Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in
already? That is hard to say. He may have access if you have a static
IP address. He may have planted something on your system during the
brief time he was connected. The only way to be sure is to have a
computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system. I would
start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced
on this list.


Good luck.



On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important
questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a
different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning
off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I
called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a
number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from,
but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began
drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money
to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was
calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to
my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said
that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the
screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a
virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft
accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were
the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but
yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off,
but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off
from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10


Re: NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

 

no its fine I have used it on that and its ok 128 is bad though but 256 is ok as long as you are carefull.

On 17/12/2016 4:42 a.m., Antony Stone wrote:
Windows XP in 256 MB of RAM!?

Surely that's almost unusable, with or without NVDA?

Antony.

On Friday 16 December 2016 at 16:40:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Generally speaking, you'll need Windows XP SP2 or above, a gigahertz
processor or faster, at least 256 MB of RAM and 90 MB free space on your
drive. Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

whats the system requirements for nvda 2017.1?
i am realy curious about it and the new features and changes of nvda.


Re: anti virus suggestion?

 

well 10 is a service now so it may continue to the end but who knows.

On 17/12/2016 12:49 p.m., Arlene wrote:
Oh okay, Just know she’ll get windows updates for 7 until 2020 If her computer can last that long. If it dies before then. Then she’ll be forced to get ten or whatever Microsoft puts out. By then ten will be on the verge of being kicked out the door. You know how Microsoft updates too fast.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: December-16-16 2:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] anti virus suggestion?



yes she already has a windows 7 computer.



On 12/16/2016 4:40 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi Robert! Arlene here. If you go to any shop like Best Buy. You will not get windows 7 anymore. They are all windows ten. If your friend wants 7. He she will have to go to a blind program and find a refurbished 7 system. You will get windows 7 support until 2020 Does your friend have a 7 computer?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: December-16-16 3:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] anti virus suggestion?

so my friend is a trojan horse manet and an adware magnet. when I could see some I had avast on her computer. she is very low tech so had no idea about changing the avast settings and making boot time scans, ETC, so now that I am totally blind is there an antivirus program anyone could suggest that is fully accessible with NVDA? she also says she will not upgrade to windows 10 because change bad! :) any suggestions for windows 7?












Re: How to burn a disk in Windows 10

 

Yeah, limit your speed to 24 x or if that don't work 16 x you should be able to slow down to 4zzx or 8x if needed.

On 16/12/2016 11:57 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Well I think the old CD burner xp still works, though some of the newer
drives to my mind are not as good at making a cd that all players can
read. I often find myself back on an old xp machine doing it on there
with an older drive.

This is nothing to do with windows 10 just the tendency for drives to
be pretty rubbish these days. Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 10:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] How to burn a disk in Windows 10


Maybe this question has already been answared.


When I wanted to burn a cd disk with my cd-burner it doesn't seem to
work with Windows 10. What is the most accessible method to create a
music cd?


Thanks,


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Re: Someone got access to my computer

 

I have changed passwords a lot but only use a few I know thats bad but hmmm.
Dad has many pages and forgets them, I am seriously think about the 1 password cloud based manatger, with autosync at 4 bucks a month, if more than me is using it then I think it would be worthwhile, my brother uses lastpass.

On 17/12/2016 3:18 p.m., Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Word of advice:

Don't tell us you only use 3 passwords. That's more than we need to know, and is only openning you up to the public for further risks. Now, all one would have to know is your 3 pwd's then if one didn't work, try the other two until they find the correct one of the 3. Had you not told us this, we never would a known where to start. I'm not saying any of us are gonna hack you, but, let's assume that moron's put a keylogger on your system. Now, the b***ard will know this info.

The less info you tell people, the better.

For instance, I've had a very very very very! trustworthy friend asking me, what do you think makes a good password? Did you yourself use a dictionary word, or is your pwd based on just random things. I told them flat out, I'll tell you what I think makes a good pwd, but I'm not gonna answer your question about how my pwd is formatted.

I don't even tell people that! much. Even if they are! trustworthy people.

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Moore
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer


Okay, Thanks, Don,

I only use three passwords for everything, so that will be easy. Good idea!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Don H
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer



If you have a list of your Passwords anywhere on your computer I would

make sure and change all my passwords.



On 12/16/2016 7:02 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

> I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just

> be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or

> weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of

> *David Moore

> *Sent:* Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

>

>

>

> Thank you so very much.

>

> I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just

> like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have

> them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer

> back to an earlyer time.

>

> David Moore

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

>

>

> *From: *Ron Canazzi <mailto:aa2vm@...>

> *Sent: *Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

>

>

>

> Hello David,

>

>

>

> Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian

> accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been

> alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer. They want me

> to let them remote in to my system. This has been a scam that has been

> affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several

> technical lists I am subscribed to. I simply hang up. Microsoft never

> calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

>

>

>

> Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in

> already? That is hard to say. He may have access if you have a static

> IP address. He may have planted something on your system during the

> brief time he was connected. The only way to be sure is to have a

> computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system. I would

> start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced

> on this list.

>

>

>

> Good luck.

>

>

>

>

>

> On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important

> questions. Here it is:

>

> Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in

> a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before

> turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like

> microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer

> by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what

> company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with

> Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife

> that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My

> wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up.

> However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan

> with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I

> clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back

> into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my

> computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a

> Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would

> have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was

> Microsoft. What should I do now?

>

> Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it

> off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one

> number off from a Microsoft sales number.

>

> David Moore

>

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

>

>

>

>

>

> --

>

> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

>

> They ask: "How Happy are You?"

>

> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

>

>

>

>










Re: anti virus suggestion?

 

Well if she doesn't know sophos cloud may be best, and she will have to upgrade to 10 eventually it aint that bad, the only reason I'd stay off 10 is with old software to be honest.
I don't care for 10 but my next box will have it, the thing that really gets my wind is the new copy replace dialog you can't just replace things like in 7 you can't click replace all and it does it.

On 17/12/2016 12:13 a.m., Robert Kingett wrote:
so my friend is a trojan horse manet and an adware magnet. when I could
see some I had avast on her computer. she is very low tech so had no
idea about changing the avast settings and making boot time scans, ETC,
so now that I am totally blind is there an antivirus program anyone
could suggest that is fully accessible with NVDA? she also says she will
not upgrade to windows 10 because change bad! :) any suggestions for
windows 7?


.


Re: Someone got access to my computer

 

It effects everyone, I repeat everyone.
I had this happen to us for 5 days straight till my dad in a deep voice pretended to be a cop, they went in a hurry.

On 17/12/2016 1:46 p.m., Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hello David,


Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian
accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been
alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer. They want me
to let them remote in to my system. This has been a scam that has been
affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several
technical lists I am subscribed to. I simply hang up. Microsoft never
calls you unsolicited for anything at all.


Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in
already? That is hard to say. He may have access if you have a static
IP address. He may have planted something on your system during the
brief time he was connected. The only way to be sure is to have a
computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system. I would
start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced
on this list.


Good luck.



On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important
questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a
different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning
off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I
called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a
number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from,
but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began
drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money
to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was
calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to
my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said
that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the
screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a
virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft
accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were
the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but
yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off,
but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off
from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10


Re: Someone got access to my computer

 

Well I'd change passwords to, articles you get say you should reformat and also reformat all the computers in your house and change all passwords and such but as long as you didn't pay well.

On 17/12/2016 1:56 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I'd still have the computer checked by a professional.







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer



Thanks a lot!

Hit Man pro says no threats. Is that a good sign?

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10



From: Matt Turner <mailto:meturner2214@...>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer



Hi, here you go.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/disability-answer-desk


On 12/16/2016 6:42 PM, Arlene wrote:

That sounds like a scam! Microsoft doesn’t call you not unless you call them. if you have a friend you trust and is computer sabby let him have at it. I hope someone gives you the disability access to Microsoft. If you and your wife know someone who wont charge you they can look at it. Fix it so he can’t get in.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: December-16-16 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer



Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10










Re: Someone got access to my computer

 

These skams have been round for like 5 years, I agree you can get caught and I got one early this year on my phone.
I would have been happier if I did get scammed because I knew what it was, I got rid of them but I knew what it was and I was in a mood.
on that note
http://andrelouis.com/media/scams is good for you.

On 17/12/2016 1:09 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Kenny,



There probably could be a virus but this sounds more like a scam.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 3:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer



That is not good. Sounds like I would call the police because the computer could probbally have a virus on it. Or you can always call the Microsoft disability desk.

Kenny Peyatt jr.



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Re: Someone got access to my computer

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Gene wrote:
 
and, with respect, no matter how qualified you are, that is still only one opinion and I consider it adviseable, in a case like this, to get various opinions in a forum such as Bleeping Computer. 
 
No disrespect taken. I completely agree with you on that note; I'm sorry for the confusion. I thought I did express my concerns, but undoubtedly not well enough. Shruggs. Anyway, back to NVDA.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

If you had explained what is bothering you, I would have responded to it in my last message.  I was not specifically addressing your comments.  Please ask next time before assuming.  While it is usual for comments to be addressed to the person quoted below the message, it isn't always.  I wasn't commenting in any way on your knowledge or qualifications.  I don't know anything about them.  I was commenting on the desirability, after people gave repetitive and conflicting advice as to whether to take a computer to a shop or just to have a remote diagnosis done, that we are not techs.  I meant that as a general comment, not addressed to you in particular. 
 
and, with respect, no matter how qualified you are, that is still only one opinion and I consider it adviseable, in a case like this, to get various opinions in a forum such as Bleeping Computer. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

Gene,
 
That is not what I was bent out of shape over. What irritates me is that you said what you did as a direct reply to one of my messages, and I know it was directed as my message, as, my original message was below your's in the body, so it can't be denied. You had said that we are not techs on this list, and therefore should probably check out certain websites or consulting with other experts before making assumptions as we're doing. That comment alone made me feel like my response was completely inaddiquit, and honestly, your comment of such felt very belittling.
 
I'm not saying anything further, but for the record, I took nothing personally. I'm only stating fact. If my tech advice seems to only be an assumption and isn't wanted over sending people to another expert, then I'll stop offering help. There isn't a point for me to keep offerring help, if my comments are not wanted, which gatherring by your post, they were not so.
 
No hard feelings, bro, I'm simply just stating how I saw your message, and by the way, not to quote names, but, about 4 others who're on this list have written me privately off list and also said they felt your comment was a slight bit disrespectful in nature, so, I'm undoubtedly not the only one who feels this way.
 
Anyway, I'm done discussing this matter on or off list. You know how I see it, so there's no point in me trying to force you to see things from the same angle, as obviously, it's not gonna happen.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I don't know why you are responding as you are.  the message I sent has nothing to do with your messages specifically.  the thread was going on and on and it was repetitive and off topic.  A certain amount of off topic discussion is allowed but not a long meeandering thread like this with lots of repetition.  and I specifically said that those with new technical comments could post.  Please stop taking things personally that are not intended as such.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

OK, I won't offer any more advice. End of discussion. Oh never mind, who still has their $50 and who never got paid. I'm not gonna say more. You know what I'm talking about, I suspect, and if you don't, well, you should. It just so happens that I am A+ certified. So, I think I'd know what I was suggesting.
 
Alas again, I'll shut my yap going forward.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Someone got access to my computer

Gene
 

If you had explained what is bothering you, I would have responded to it in my last message.  I was not specifically addressing your comments.  Please ask next time before assuming.  While it is usual for comments to be addressed to the person quoted below the message, it isn't always.  I wasn't commenting in any way on your knowledge or qualifications.  I don't know anything about them.  I was commenting on the desirability, after people gave repetitive and conflicting advice as to whether to take a computer to a shop or just to have a remote diagnosis done, that we are not techs.  I meant that as a general comment, not addressed to you in particular. 
 
and, with respect, no matter how qualified you are, that is still only one opinion and I consider it adviseable, in a case like this, to get various opinions in a forum such as Bleeping Computer. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

Gene,
 
That is not what I was bent out of shape over. What irritates me is that you said what you did as a direct reply to one of my messages, and I know it was directed as my message, as, my original message was below your's in the body, so it can't be denied. You had said that we are not techs on this list, and therefore should probably check out certain websites or consulting with other experts before making assumptions as we're doing. That comment alone made me feel like my response was completely inaddiquit, and honestly, your comment of such felt very belittling.
 
I'm not saying anything further, but for the record, I took nothing personally. I'm only stating fact. If my tech advice seems to only be an assumption and isn't wanted over sending people to another expert, then I'll stop offering help. There isn't a point for me to keep offerring help, if my comments are not wanted, which gatherring by your post, they were not so.
 
No hard feelings, bro, I'm simply just stating how I saw your message, and by the way, not to quote names, but, about 4 others who're on this list have written me privately off list and also said they felt your comment was a slight bit disrespectful in nature, so, I'm undoubtedly not the only one who feels this way.
 
Anyway, I'm done discussing this matter on or off list. You know how I see it, so there's no point in me trying to force you to see things from the same angle, as obviously, it's not gonna happen.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I don't know why you are responding as you are.  the message I sent has nothing to do with your messages specifically.  the thread was going on and on and it was repetitive and off topic.  A certain amount of off topic discussion is allowed but not a long meeandering thread like this with lots of repetition.  and I specifically said that those with new technical comments could post.  Please stop taking things personally that are not intended as such.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

OK, I won't offer any more advice. End of discussion. Oh never mind, who still has their $50 and who never got paid. I'm not gonna say more. You know what I'm talking about, I suspect, and if you don't, well, you should. It just so happens that I am A+ certified. So, I think I'd know what I was suggesting.
 
Alas again, I'll shut my yap going forward.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Someone got access to my computer

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


A? freaking men!
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

Hold on a minute! There's nothing wrong with someone taking their computer to a shop to make sure it's clean after they've done everything else they can think of to protect themselves. I won't say anything more. No, we're not techies but we were just trying to help this person. I've said my peace so this is it on the topic!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 

 

gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Someone got access to my computer

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Gene,
 
That is not what I was bent out of shape over. What irritates me is that you said what you did as a direct reply to one of my messages, and I know it was directed as my message, as, my original message was below your's in the body, so it can't be denied. You had said that we are not techs on this list, and therefore should probably check out certain websites or consulting with other experts before making assumptions as we're doing. That comment alone made me feel like my response was completely inaddiquit, and honestly, your comment of such felt very belittling.
 
I'm not saying anything further, but for the record, I took nothing personally. I'm only stating fact. If my tech advice seems to only be an assumption and isn't wanted over sending people to another expert, then I'll stop offering help. There isn't a point for me to keep offerring help, if my comments are not wanted, which gatherring by your post, they were not so.
 
No hard feelings, bro, I'm simply just stating how I saw your message, and by the way, not to quote names, but, about 4 others who're on this list have written me privately off list and also said they felt your comment was a slight bit disrespectful in nature, so, I'm undoubtedly not the only one who feels this way.
 
Anyway, I'm done discussing this matter on or off list. You know how I see it, so there's no point in me trying to force you to see things from the same angle, as obviously, it's not gonna happen.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I don't know why you are responding as you are.  the message I sent has nothing to do with your messages specifically.  the thread was going on and on and it was repetitive and off topic.  A certain amount of off topic discussion is allowed but not a long meeandering thread like this with lots of repetition.  and I specifically said that those with new technical comments could post.  Please stop taking things personally that are not intended as such.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

OK, I won't offer any more advice. End of discussion. Oh never mind, who still has their $50 and who never got paid. I'm not gonna say more. You know what I'm talking about, I suspect, and if you don't, well, you should. It just so happens that I am A+ certified. So, I think I'd know what I was suggesting.
 
Alas again, I'll shut my yap going forward.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Someone got access to my computer

Gene
 

I didn't say there is anything wrong with taking a computer to a shop.  Read my message again, please.  I said that people are assuming what can and cannot be done in a remote and I said that we don't know if a good remote session can be as thorough and reliable as taking a computer to a shop. 
 
I also gave a site to get good technical help from techs, whereas we are almost entirely laymen without specialized security knowledge.  Again, I didn't take a position on the best way to get a good diagnosis.  I think more expert knowledge should be sought.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

Hold on a minute! There's nothing wrong with someone taking their computer to a shop to make sure it's clean after they've done everything else they can think of to protect themselves. I won't say anything more. No, we're not techies but we were just trying to help this person. I've said my peace so this is it on the topic!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 

 

gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Someone got access to my computer

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hold on a minute! There's nothing wrong with someone taking their computer to a shop to make sure it's clean after they've done everything else they can think of to protect themselves. I won't say anything more. No, we're not techies but we were just trying to help this person. I've said my peace so this is it on the topic!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 

 

gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

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From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Someone got access to my computer

Gene
 

I don't know why you are responding as you are.  the message I sent has nothing to do with your messages specifically.  the thread was going on and on and it was repetitive and off topic.  A certain amount of off topic discussion is allowed but not a long meeandering thread like this with lots of repetition.  and I specifically said that those with new technical comments could post.  Please stop taking things personally that are not intended as such.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

OK, I won't offer any more advice. End of discussion. Oh never mind, who still has their $50 and who never got paid. I'm not gonna say more. You know what I'm talking about, I suspect, and if you don't, well, you should. It just so happens that I am A+ certified. So, I think I'd know what I was suggesting.
 
Alas again, I'll shut my yap going forward.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Someone got access to my computer

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


OK, I won't offer any more advice. End of discussion. Oh never mind, who still has their $50 and who never got paid. I'm not gonna say more. You know what I'm talking about, I suspect, and if you don't, well, you should. It just so happens that I am A+ certified. So, I think I'd know what I was suggesting.
 
Alas again, I'll shut my yap going forward.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

People are assuming that a tech, physically working with the computer, can do more diagnostics than someone remoting into the computer as Microsoft Accessibility does.  Maybe yes, maybe no.  I don't know but I don't think people should be so sure and definite in making prescriptions about how to have the computer checked or what to do or what not to do.  We are not techs.  We are giving laymen's answers.  If you really want expert advice, ask on a site like Bleeping
Computer, where techs help people with computer problems. 
 
gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I dono if I'd go quite, that! far. I don't think a reinstall's necessary, but, I would definitely get the system looked at.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

I think I'd do a clean instalation of windows too and start fresh. Just be careful about sites you go on and don't answer any pop-up messages or weird phone calls. This is definitely a scam.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 4:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Thank you so very much.

I really appreciate all of the responses, and I will start there just like you suggested. I will call the MS accessibility number and have them scan my computer just to make sure. I will also restore my computer back to an earlyer time.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hello David,

 

Every 2 or 3 weeks, I get a call from someone with a heavy East Indian accent saying that they are from Microsoft and that they have been alerted that I have a serious virus issue on my computer.  They want me to let them remote in to my system.  This has been a scam that has been affecting the blind community a great deal as reported on several technical lists I am subscribed to.  I simply hang up.  Microsoft never calls you unsolicited for anything at all.

 

Could this guy have access to your computer since you let him in already?  That is hard to say.  He may have access if you have a static IP address.   He may have planted something on your system during the brief time he was connected.  The only way to be sure is to have a computer expert/technician of some sort analyze your system.  I would start with the Microsoft website/phone number that have been referenced on this list.

 

Good luck.

 

 

On 12/16/2016 6:36 PM, David Moore wrote:

Hi guys,

I will give you a quick over view and ask some very important questions. Here it is:

Well, I typed in a web site, and my small laptop started talking in a different voice saying to call a number from Microsoft before turning off my computer. It gave a number that sounded a lot like microsoft. I called and my wife let them have access, to my computer by typing in a number and other info. and he would not say what company he was from, but he said he was a third party working with Microsoft. He began drawing lines on my screen, and told my wife that I had to pay money to clean my computer from this virus. My wife told him that she was calling the police, and he hung up. However, he was still connected to my computer. I did a quick scan with Windows defender, and it said that I have no problems. I clicked off of all of what he had on the screen. Can he get back into my computer at any time? Could there be a virus still on my computer? What is the number to Microsoft accessability? I called a Microsoft number, and they said they were the geek squad and I would have to pay for them to do anything, but yet he said it was Microsoft. What should I do now?

Take care, guys, I am still shaken up. I would had just blown it off, but the message that came up said Microsoft, and it was one number off from a Microsoft sales number.

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 


Re: Someone got access to my computer

Louise Johnson
 

Hi I still would call the Microsoft desk at 1 800 936 5900 as they can do scans that can make sure that your computer is okay. It sounds like it is but would you want to take a chance that it isn’t okay. I also would change all passwords and if you have a user name for the computer have help changing it so they can’t get into the computer.

 

I don’t think you have a problem but taking small steps like changing passswords would help you feel better over all.

 

I get calls also but I hadn’t seen yours before by message on the computer so thanks for sharing with us all as I learned the latest one thanks Louise and princess Kiara

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: December 16, 2016 4:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

Hit Man pro says no threats.

Should I worry?

David Moore

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From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Someone got access to my computer

 

That is not good. Sounds like I would call the police because the computer could probbally have a virus on it. Or you can always call the Microsoft disability desk.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

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