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Re: changing the function key

Gene
 

From what I've seen on another list, this may be able to be changed on some computers in Windows.  But I don't know where.  I haven't tried this and I don't know if it will present any problems such as in booting, but one thing I've thought might work as a work around would be to simply tape the function key down.  Perhaps something like scotch tape might serve.  Masking tape, if left in place for a long time, for some reason has the adhesive become very sticky and clingy.  I would therefore consider it unsuitable for this purpose except for a short time.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 1:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] changing the function key

Hi all, I had a quick question. On my HP laptop the function keys are
defaulted to their media options, so if I want to hit shift F10, I have
to hit FN shift F10. Is there anyway I can change this without going
into the BIOS? I have no sighted person here to assist me with the BIOS
so is there a work around?



changing the function key

 

Hi all, I had a quick question. On my HP laptop the function keys are defaulted to their media options, so if I want to hit shift F10, I have to hit FN shift F10. Is there anyway I can change this without going into the BIOS? I have no sighted person here to assist me with the BIOS so is there a work around?


Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Doug Lawlor
 

Hello Brian,
I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating. 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Doug,

          Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

 

Doug,

          Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
--
Brian

 Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

         ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902

    



Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Chris
 

Have you tried recoverying it through the settings app?

 

 


Reinstalling Windows 10

Doug Lawlor
 

Hello all,

I know there are more appropriate   lists I should be posting this on but I need an answer as soon as I can get one. 

I have a Windows 10 laptop that is totally unusable and need to install Windows 10 from a working image I have on a USB drive. How can I restart Windows into Safe mode where I can do this? I'm getting program Manager not responding from NVDA so I know there is a problem where a reinstall of Windows would be the best option. It would be really wonderful if one could install Windows without sited assistance but that's still not possible as far as I'm aware.  


Thanks, 


Doug



Douglas Lawlor


Re: intel 64-bit processors with amd instruction sets: (was [nvda] A word of warning about xp and windoows update enabled systems with old amd processors

 

Hi,
The following is a bit technical, so please bear with me for a second:
Almost two decades ago, many microprocessor manufacturers noted that the
32-bit 4 GB limit would be reached within a few years, hence development of
64-bit processors began. Intel and AMD took two different routes: Intel came
up with a completely different 64-bit architecture than that of Pentium,
while AMD extended Pentium's language and made it work with 64-bit data.
Eventually, Intel adopted AMD's approach, hence you'll find that even for
Intel processors, the architecture name is AMD64 (technically called
x86-64). Modern 64-bit processors from Intel and AMD can run 32-bit software
such as NVDA because they can understand 32-bit instructions natively in
hardware, and Windows and other operating systems have mechanisms to allow
32-bit software to run under 64-bit operating systems (I'll describe this
process from start to finish upon request).
Cheers,
Joseph
P.S. To Derek and other devs: at some point, we should explain what WoW64
is.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Travis
Siegel
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: intel 64-bit processors with amd instruction sets: (was [nvda] A
word of warning about xp and windoows update enabled systems with old amd
processors

Perhaps companies don't support it, but they should. I have an intel
processor, but it uses the amd command set. In fact, if I do a system info,
it tells me intel processor, (with all it's various version information),
then tells me amd-64, then returns to intel for processor type and so on.
It's very odd, but I have discovered that intel 64-bit programs don't work
on this machine, only amd-64 apps work (go figure)

This is an all in one computer, so it's likely using one of the intel laptop
processors that have the power saving features of a laptop, but apparently,
these cpus are also using amd commands for their command sets. <shrug>



On 12/15/2016 6:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I noticed yesterday on an old XP Athlon machine, the chip with no sse
2, that after a latest xp security update which is enabled on that
machine, the processor usage was 99 percent. trying this on a second
machine running a sempron resulted in the same issue, but not on the
old Pentium Intel chipped machines.
The thing is it seems to have altered the way the software looks for
and downloads windows updates, so to stop this problem you need to
turn off automatic updates. This can be quite a challenge with about 1
percent processor still working when nvda tends to need 143 percent,
but after doing this and rebooting all is sweetness and light again. I
only put this on here as I know a lot of folk in some of the poorer
countries out there still use xp machines with the get updates hack on
them, and wanted to help.
I'll shut up about it now, as in fact its off topic.
I imagine Microsoft never bother to test it on this processor as so
many companies now do not support it, like dropbox or firefox to name
but two.


Brian

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intel 64-bit processors with amd instruction sets: (was [nvda] A word of warning about xp and windoows update enabled systems with old amd processors

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Perhaps companies don't support it, but they should. I have an intel processor, but it uses the amd command set. In fact, if I do a system info, it tells me intel processor, (with all it's various version information), then tells me amd-64, then returns to intel for processor type and so on. It's very odd, but I have discovered that intel 64-bit programs don't work on this machine, only amd-64 apps work (go figure)

This is an all in one computer, so it's likely using one of the intel laptop processors that have the power saving features of a laptop, but apparently, these cpus are also using amd commands for their command sets. <shrug>

On 12/15/2016 6:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I noticed yesterday on an old XP Athlon machine, the chip with no sse 2, that after a latest xp security update which is enabled on that machine, the processor usage was 99 percent. trying this on a second machine running a sempron resulted in the same issue, but not on the old Pentium Intel chipped machines.
The thing is it seems to have altered the way the software looks for and downloads windows updates, so to stop this problem you need to turn off automatic updates. This can be quite a challenge with about 1 percent processor still working when nvda tends to need 143 percent, but after doing this and rebooting all is sweetness and light again. I only put this on here as I know a lot of folk in some of the poorer countries out there still use xp machines with the get updates hack on them, and wanted to help.
I'll shut up about it now, as in fact its off topic.
I imagine Microsoft never bother to test it on this processor as so many companies now do not support it, like dropbox or firefox to name but two.


Brian

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Re: New member

 

Welcome to the NVDA family dear Adrijana.

On 12/15/16, adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko@...> wrote:
Just joined here so thought to say hi. My name is Adrijana and I am a
blind lady of 37. I live in Macedonia and ework as a teacher. It would
be cool to make cool friends here and discuss NVDA stuff. If anyone
can help me get my elekwence voice back and save it successfully, you
can email me at:
adrijana.prokopenko@...




Re: Vocalizer expressive for Nuance

 

I totally agree. Even the current version of Tifflotecnia's Vocalizer add on worked relatively fine. Though I also want an update, I'd prefer an update that is fully finished rather than half finished. By this I mean an update that is stable and well tested, rather than a rushed update that is not stable and full of bugs.


New member

adrijana prokopenko <adrijana.prokopenko@...>
 

Just joined here so thought to say hi. My name is Adrijana and I am a
blind lady of 37. I live in Macedonia and ework as a teacher. It would
be cool to make cool friends here and discuss NVDA stuff. If anyone
can help me get my elekwence voice back and save it successfully, you
can email me at:
adrijana.prokopenko@...


Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

Adriano Barbieri
 

Yes, there is also the free version, look at the page that I have indicated.
Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility


virit?
is it freeware or commercial?

On 12/15/16, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:
I use Windows Defender and it is reasonably accessible, but, I, too,
experience silent moments with NVDA and lack of focus which I press
alt+tab to refocus. I experience the same with JAWS, as well. So I
figure it's not an NVDA issue, but something to do with the system.
Nevzat

On 12/15/16, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the
same time.

On 12/15/2016 4:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.

the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program
after another is not generally experienced by NVDA users. I don't know
what is causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem.
Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge will be able to help
further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* nasrin khaksar <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <@kobisko
<mailto:@kobisko>> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero. All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.




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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Deleted file recovery software

Gene
 

No. 
 
Gene

Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 4:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software

gene.
thanks extremely for your great informations.
and how about windows xp?
is it realy possible to use this feature on xp?

On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You are correct about Vista not making Shadow Copy available to home users
> except by using a third party utility.  This makes no sense but that's how
> it is.  But Windows 7 has no such restrictions and all versions allow the
> user to recover files working directly with the old versions interface.
> From Wikipedia:
> The "Previous Versions" feature is available in the Business, Enterprise,
> and Ultimate editions of Windows Vista[15] and in all Windows 7 editions.
> The Home Editions of Vista lack the "Previous Versions" feature, even though
> the Volume Snapshot Service is included and running. Using third-party tools
> it is still possible to restore previous versions of files on the local
> volume.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Gene
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 2:48 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>
>
> I don't know who says you need a third party utility to see the old files.
> That is not true.  it may be easier to use the utility to get access but I
> can open the old version of any folder and see all the files.  I'd have to
> review the interface to see just how this is done, but I was able to copy a
> file to the current folder.  That is in Windows 7 home.  It would be
> completely illogical for Microsoft to have Shadow Copy and make it
> inaccessible to users of this or that version of Windows.
>
> If a statement is made by someone, a program designer, or just someone
> discussing something, it should be treated skeptically.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: nasrin khaksar
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:26 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>
>
> hi.
> download recuva
> its very accessible and has wizart to teach you how to use it.
> also you can try shadow explorer which works with windows vista and later.
> www.piriform.com/recuva
> www.shadowexplorer.com/
> From time to time, Windows Vista / 7 / 8 creates point-in-time copies
> of your files. This allows you to retrieve older versions from files
> you accidentally deleted or altered. This service is turned on by
> default on all versions of Windows Vista/7, but Microsoft grants
> access to these copies only in Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise
> editions. This is where ShadowExplorer comes into play.
>
> ShadowExplorer
> Since the Volume Shadow Copy Service is included, and turned on by
> default, in all editions of Windows Vista / 7 / 8, why not take
> advantage of it? All it takes is an additional tool like
> ShadowExplorer, that can access the shadow storage and make the
> point-in-time copies accessible to the user.
> Features
> •Show available point-in-time copies
> •Browse through Shadow Copies
> •Retrieve versions of files and folders
> Limitations
> Shadow Copies and ShadowExplorer are in no way a replacement for
> regular backups! This is very important and can't be stressed enough.
> A Shadow Copy is kept on the same disc as the original data. In case
> of a disc failure all data is lost, including the Shadow Copies.
> ShadowExplorer is a good addition to regular backups, but not a
> replacement.
>
> -
>
> On 12/15/16, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
>> Thanks for the info re Piriform Recuva.  It’s a friend of mine who’s
>> accidentally deleted some files.  I’ve downloaded the portable version
>> for
>> her and also loaded the desktop version on my own machine.  I’ve had a
>> quick
>> look at the interface and initial impressions re accessibility are very
>> favourable.  I’ll report back when she has tried the recovery.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Felix
>> G.
>> Sent: 14 December 2016 21:41
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Recuva was accessible at the time I used it some years ago.
>>
>> Any write operation now has the potential to clobber that file, so you
>> better download the portable version to a thumb drive using another
>> machine
>> then run it.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Felix Grützmacher
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mi., 14. Dez. 2016 um 19:55 Uhr:
>>
>> I don't know how well Recuva works for most people.  I have had little
>> success with it though there's no harm in trying.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, if the files were on your machine at the time a restore point
>> was
>> made, if you are using the default settings, the files will be retained
>> by
>> shadow copy.  I won't go into how to find them in this message because I
>> don't know how long they were on the drive nor do I know if you have
>> System
>> Restore active. I also don't know if the procedure is the same as mine
>> since
>> I don't know what version of Windows you are using.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:32 PM
>>
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Deleted file recovery software
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>>        I can't swear to accessibility on this particular program, but
>> others
>> by the same maker (e.g. CCleaner) are.  Have a look at Piriform.com and
>> their Recuva utility.  It's free and you've got nothing to lose but a few
>> minutes time by trying it.  In the case of deleted files that bypassed
>> the
>> Recycle Bin or have been emptied from it, the sooner you try to recover
>> them
>> the better.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient
>> premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>
>


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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hello, Perhapse some will not appreciate the simantics, but as NVDA is as close to new paradigm as it's possible to come in the windows world, the position should be more that developers of antivirus haven't used standards that comply with accessibility best practices and thus aren't compatible with NVDA. We expect software to be developed accessibly, not for a screen reader to interpret inaccessible asoftware to render it accessible.

Malware bytes took a serious hit on accessibility for a while, but so many blind users adopted it in the glory days, that the volume of complaints really forced them to take some action. It's not perfect, but I'm able to scan and clean using NVDA. It updates itself and I've never had a serious issue after about 2.20 or so.

I missed an entire thread on this and so I'm not sure what issues people were having, but for security, performance, and very basic functionality, MalwareBytes really is top of the line.

Best,

Erik

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On December 14, 2016 6:46:44 PM "Ibrahim Ajayi" <@kobisko> wrote:

Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software.  I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA.  They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero.  All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.


Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

 

virit?
is it freeware or commercial?

On 12/15/16, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:
I use Windows Defender and it is reasonably accessible, but, I, too,
experience silent moments with NVDA and lack of focus which I press
alt+tab to refocus. I experience the same with JAWS, as well. So I
figure it's not an NVDA issue, but something to do with the system.
Nevzat

On 12/15/16, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the
same time.

On 12/15/2016 4:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.

the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program
after another is not generally experienced by NVDA users. I don't know
what is causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem.
Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge will be able to help
further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* nasrin khaksar <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <@kobisko
<mailto:@kobisko>> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero. All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

 

I use Windows Defender and it is reasonably accessible, but, I, too,
experience silent moments with NVDA and lack of focus which I press
alt+tab to refocus. I experience the same with JAWS, as well. So I
figure it's not an NVDA issue, but something to do with the system.
Nevzat

On 12/15/16, Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the
same time.

On 12/15/2016 4:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.

the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program
after another is not generally experienced by NVDA users. I don't know
what is causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem.
Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge will be able to help
further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* nasrin khaksar <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <@kobisko
<mailto:@kobisko>> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero. All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org






Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

Nimer Jaber
 

I recommend Sophos home, but others have had success with some others. Search the list archives for virus programs, and you will find others and the whole discussion on this topic.

Thanks.

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 7:45 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the
same time.

On 12/15/2016 4:01 AM, Gene wrote:
> Clamwin is not a highly rated program.
>
> the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program
> after another is not generally experienced by NVDA users.  I don't know
> what is causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem.
> Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge will be able to help further.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* nasrin khaksar <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility
>
> hi.
> i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
> other programs.
>
> On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <kobisko@...
> <mailto:kobisko@...>> wrote:
>> Hi good people:
>> I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
>> software, is not compatible with antivirus software.  I've tried
>> several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
>> with NVDA.  They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
>> down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
>> I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
>> and avero.  All are the same.
>> Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
>> I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
>> In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
>> software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
>> this can expose my system to attacks.
>> Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
>> Thanks and cheers.
>> From Ibrahim in Nigeria.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration is:
> imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> al-islam.org
>
>
>
>




Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

Don H
 

I wonder if the problem is having two antivirus programs running at the same time.

On 12/15/2016 4:01 AM, Gene wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.

the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program
after another is not generally experienced by NVDA users. I don't know
what is causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem.
Perhaps someone with more technical knowledge will be able to help further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* nasrin khaksar <mailto:nasrinkhaksar3@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <@kobisko
<mailto:@kobisko>> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero. All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




Re: Google Docs with Nvda

chris miles
 

On 14-Dec-16 3:48 PM, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
Hi all,

I have to start using Google Docs for some group works in my university.
I was reading through the help section for screenreader users specially Nvda. So far it looks great.
But I have a problem. It says that if I want to move to the next heading, I should do Control+Alt+N and then H but it doesn't work for me.
I do it but it doesn't work. It simply writes an H.
Does anyone uses Nvda and google Docs and have some suggestions'
Thank you,
Jorge





Hi,


CONTROL PLUS ALT PLUS N is the hot key to start NVDA. Perhaps if you press the NVDA - insert key - and F2 pass next key through and tthen enter CTRL plus ALT plus N followed by H then NVDA might go to the next heading.


Re: NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,
I have Vindows XP but should also run on windows 10.
Have you tried Virit?
http://www.tgsoft.it/tgsoft_home.asp
It is not heavy and I do run spybot, and both are very good.
the link for Spybot search and destroy:
https://www.safer-networking.org/

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility


any security program which i tested causeslowness and hangs in using
nvda for me.

On 12/15/16, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Clamwin is not a highly rated program.

the problem described of slow performance with one antimalware program after
another is not generally experienced by NVDA users. I don't know what is
causing the problem but it is not a general NVDA problem. Perhaps someone
with more technical knowledge will be able to help further.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 3:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA And Antivirus Incompatibility


hi.
i know only clamwin which is accessible with nvda and i did not test
other programs.

On 12/15/16, Ibrahim Ajayi <@kobisko> wrote:
Hi good people:
I've come to realize that the NVDA screenreader our wonderful
software, is not compatible with antivirus software. I've tried
several antivirus software on my system, and they appear incompatible
with NVDA. They make browsing extremely slow, and oftentimes, shut
down the screen reader. Sometimes I am taken off the site totally.
I've tried the avast antivirus software, marobite, microsoft essential
and avero. All are the same.
Is there a solution to this problem? I don't have this experience when
I use the demo version of JAWS for windows.
In order to use NVDA conveniently, I've had to remove the antivirus
software I have on my system, and after browsing, reinstall it, and
this can expose my system to attacks.
Looking forward to reading from you chaps again.
Thanks and cheers.
From Ibrahim in Nigeria.




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org