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Re: How to turn off NVDA

Gene
 

I don't know what is causing the problem. I seem to recall seeing someone discuss the same or a similar problem a number of years ago. I don't recall if it was resolved or how. Is it necessary to use this one computer? Trying another might be the solution.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Food Posse
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to turn off NVDA



Thank you for the troubleshooting efforts.


We did not select the option to launch NVDA at windows login. But even if it was, sounds like NVDA should not auto-launch after closing unless activated by a person. We did not change any other NVDA default settings.

So we uninstalled and reinstalled NVDA but the same thing happens - Insert+Q, dialog box open, default option is already Exit, dialog box closes but NVDA continues to read the screen. Then when forced to close through the Task Manager, NVDA still automatically relaunches at various times like launching an app.


This is a new system so it should be pretty clean. There are very few programs other than what came pre-installed with the laptop. AVG was downloaded to confirm no viruses on the computer or on the NVDA exe before we reinstalled. We even checked the startup options in the Task Manager and NVDA is not on the list. Our friend really wants NVDA but we are not sure what else to try.





On 12/28/2020 3:05 PM, Gene wrote:
I suspect the reason NVDA automatically comes on when set to run at the login screen when the secure desktop comes up may be that NVDA loads another version of itself to run when the secure desktop opens. My guess is that there is a relation between this and the setting to automatically run at the login screen. Perhaps one of the developers will discuss the matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to turn off NVDA

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 02:21 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Actually, this isn't always the case. If the option to use NVDA on the
log-on screen is checked, it annoyingly pops up on every screen that
requires administrative action, and stays there until you shut it off.-
This is news to me, and good information to have. Most of the folks I've worked with who are using NVDA have their systems set up to log them straight in to their desktops on system (re)start, so they're not using that setting.

Several don't even have any screen reader turn on initially by default, as they will choose one based on what it is they're about to work with first if one screen reader works with that software better than the other.

Other than what you document above, which I've never seen because that setting was not set, I have not encountered NVDA doing a self-restart once explicitly exited from.

There are a number of possibilities here, but if the situation you described is known to not have been set up, I still strongly recommend an uninstall and reinstall to see if that clears things up, and paying particular attention to the dialogs when installing so the way you want NVDA to behave is actually set up correctly.


Re: NVDA and outlook questions

Gene
 

If my guess is correct, you can read current line as you type and see the address change as you provide more information. Why this isn't read, I don't know, nor do I know if it is a problem on your machine or a general problem. I don't use the program. But at times,, making a minor adjustment to get a screen-reader to do what you want is the best solution. If the problem is general, than you can try to interest developers to try to solve it, if it is important enough for those working on NVDA to do so. But screen-readers working in the complex environments they do, you will always have the possibility of having to cause it to do something.

Typing a little, then reading the current line, then typing some more is a good work around if that is necessary in this case. Or perhaps down arrowing once, then uparrowing to the line you want read might be better. It would allow you to keep one hand on the keyboared and resuming typing might be easier and faster. Or reading the current object, numpad 8, might be what you might find most convenient. Using the desktop layout, you would only take one hand off the keyboard. I don't know the laptop layout.

A certain amount of imperfection may be inevitable and should be expected.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

I believe it is 2016. This is the version number I got when I used jaws and got the version number.
Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.13426.20404
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions


I think there is a setting.
You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked.
I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour.
David G.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions



I have the setting

Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions





This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook.
I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed



whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K.







I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on?



Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts.



David G.



On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote:



Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to?


Re: How to turn off NVDA

 

If this is a new machine that has not as yet been heavily customized by installing lots of programs, tweaking settings, etc., I would suggest you consider:

Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive

Also, avoid AVG like the plague.  It was once one of my favorites, but those days are long gone.  Windows Security is in all ways a better product overall and causes far fewer issues.

What you're seeing with NVDA is simply not normal, and is so odd and idiosyncratic that it has to be based on something specific to that machine.  Getting a clean baseline Windows 10 installed eliminates possible corruption in the existing Windows 10 install, and is easy to do and relatively painless provided you don't have scads of software to install and settings to tweak afterward.
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how do you get NVDA to read all graphics?

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, how do you get NVDA to show all graphics on a webpage?


Re: How to turn off NVDA

Food Posse <allaboutfoodandfun@...>
 

Thank you for the troubleshooting efforts.

We did not select the option to launch NVDA at windows login. But even if it was, sounds like NVDA should not auto-launch after closing unless activated by a person. We did not change any other NVDA default settings.

So we uninstalled and reinstalled NVDA but the same thing happens - Insert+Q, dialog box open, default option is already Exit, dialog box closes but NVDA continues to read the screen. Then when forced to close through the Task Manager, NVDA still automatically relaunches at various times like launching an app.

This is a new system so it should be pretty clean. There are very few programs other than what came pre-installed with the laptop. AVG was downloaded to confirm no viruses on the computer or on the NVDA exe before we reinstalled. We even checked the startup options in the Task Manager and NVDA is not on the list. Our friend really wants NVDA but we are not sure what else to try.


On 12/28/2020 3:05 PM, Gene wrote:
I suspect the reason NVDA automatically comes on when set to run at the login screen when the secure desktop comes up may be that NVDA loads another version of itself to run when the secure desktop opens.  My guess is that there is a relation between this and the setting to automatically run at the login screen.  Perhaps one of the developers will discuss the matter.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to turn off NVDA

On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 02:21 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Actually, this isn't always the case. If the option to use NVDA on the
log-on screen is checked, it annoyingly pops up on every screen that
requires administrative action, and stays there until you shut it off.-
This is news to me, and good information to have.  Most of the folks I've worked with who are using NVDA have their systems set up to log them straight in to their desktops on system (re)start, so they're not using that setting.

Several don't even have any screen reader turn on initially by default, as they will choose one based on what it is they're about to work with first if one screen reader works with that software better than the other.

Other than what you document above, which I've never seen because that setting was not set, I have not encountered NVDA doing a self-restart once explicitly exited from.

There are a number of possibilities here, but if the situation you described is known to not have been set up, I still strongly recommend an uninstall and reinstall to see if that clears things up, and paying particular attention to the dialogs when installing so the way you want NVDA to behave is actually set up correctly.


Re: NVDA and outlook questions

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I believe it is 2016. This is the version number I got when I used jaws and got the version number.
Microsoft Outlook Subscription Version 16.0.13426.20404

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Miner via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 10:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions


I think there is a setting.
You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked.
I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour.
David G.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions



I have the setting

Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions





This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook.
I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed



whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K.







I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on?



Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts.



David G.



On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote:



Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to?


NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Dan Miner
 

I have gotten that behavior in a couple of ways. When reading temporary files from say an email (using Open from a context menu) or when there is an embedded view from another application (Excel is always a candidate for this problem with protected cells). So, perhaps your friend can note the specific source and way he or she is accessing the document?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 5:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

These two messages may solve the problem.
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/nvda_saying_edit_before/32326116?p=

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 6:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

I turned off all the settings I thought might cause this behavior but when I open up an editable document, I still hear document editable. You may need to use the speech dictionary to stop this behavior.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Hi all
Some of my friend told me that their NVDA read: edit read-only each time they press up / down arrows to navigate line by line in Microsoft Office Word, but I didn't see this in my NVDA so don't know why, and how to make NVDA not read this. If you know how to config NVDA to ignore that message, please show me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Re: NVDA and outlook questions

Dan Miner
 

I have Outlook from Office 365 and if I recall this thread was about the To field and reading the type-ahead suggestion reading? When I was using Outlook 2016, I had this problem of it not reading but I did a bit of testing again on this version. It seems to be working fine with the type ahead for reading the first suggestion and changing as I progress on typing. Also, a simple down arrow will read the remaining suggestions. I don't recall which version you have but I am wondering if that is a factor here.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions


I think there is a setting.
You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked.
I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour.
David G.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions



I have the setting

Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions





This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook.
I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed



whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K.







I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on?



Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at
least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to
go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in
contacts.



David G.



On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote:



Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the
suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who
the message is to?


Re: two questions regarding nvda

Hettie <woehler.hettie@...>
 

Thanks for the reply, Louis. I found your answer at the last message received today.


Hettie

On 2020/12/29 5:11 pm, Hettie via groups.io wrote:
How does one activate the function in windows 10?


Hettie


On 2020/12/29 12:52 am, Gene wrote:
Since this can be done in Windows 10, is there a reason or advantage in using the add-on?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] two questions regarding nvda

Gene, Louis is right if you use Windows 10 and have activated this feature.


Rui Fontes


Às 21:29 de 28/12/2020, Gene escreveu:
Every time you use control c, the previous item on the clipboard is removed and replaced by the new one. You can't copy multiple items to the clipboard as you describe.

I'll look at the what's new section in the NVDA beta to see if this ability has been added.  At this time, I don't remember if you need an NVDA add-on to do this or if the ability has been added to the screen-reader.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Louis Maher
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 3:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] two questions regarding nvda



Hello Mike,



Regarding the clipboard:



Windows commands handle this situation.

If you want to put three things on the clipboard, select the first item, hit control + c.  Go to the second item, select it, and hit control + c. Again select the third item and hit control + c.



Now go to where you want to paste item 1, hit windows + v. This will give you a list of the things you have copied to the clipboard.  Arrow up and down the list until you find item one. Hit enter.



Again move to the second and third spots, Up and down arrow to you find items 2 and 3, and hit enter for each.

hit windows + v, then enter.









Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] two questions regarding nvda





Hi guys:



I have two questions regarding nvda:

First,

Is there a “append to clipboard” command in nvda the way there is in jaws, “insert+windows+c” command?



Second,

I see that when I am in word, and I encounter a table, nvda does not say “entering table” or “exiting table” like jaws does;

Is there a way to turn this on?

(by the way, this also happens within webpages as well).



Please advise as you like.



Mike M.



Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net

Ph: 618 783 9331




















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Re: two questions regarding nvda

Hettie <woehler.hettie@...>
 

How does one activate the function in windows 10?


Hettie

On 2020/12/29 12:52 am, Gene wrote:
Since this can be done in Windows 10, is there a reason or advantage in using the add-on?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 4:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] two questions regarding nvda

Gene, Louis is right if you use Windows 10 and have activated this feature.


Rui Fontes


Às 21:29 de 28/12/2020, Gene escreveu:
Every time you use control c, the previous item on the clipboard is removed and replaced by the new one. You can't copy multiple items to the clipboard as you describe.

I'll look at the what's new section in the NVDA beta to see if this ability has been added.  At this time, I don't remember if you need an NVDA add-on to do this or if the ability has been added to the screen-reader.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Louis Maher
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 3:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] two questions regarding nvda



Hello Mike,



Regarding the clipboard:



Windows commands handle this situation.

If you want to put three things on the clipboard, select the first item, hit control + c.  Go to the second item, select it, and hit control + c. Again select the third item and hit control + c.



Now go to where you want to paste item 1, hit windows + v.  This will give you a list of the things you have copied to the clipboard.  Arrow up and down the list until you find item one. Hit enter.



Again move to the second and third spots, Up and down arrow to you find items 2 and 3, and hit enter for each.

hit windows + v, then enter.









Regards

Louis Maher

Phone: 713-444-7838

E-mail ljmaher03@outlook.com







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of mike mcglashon
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] two questions regarding nvda





Hi guys:



I have two questions regarding nvda:

First,

Is there a “append to clipboard” command in nvda the way there is in jaws, “insert+windows+c” command?



Second,

I see that when I am in word, and I encounter a table, nvda does not say “entering table” or “exiting table” like jaws does;

Is there a way to turn this on?

(by the way, this also happens within webpages as well).



Please advise as you like.



Mike M.



Mike mcglashon

Email: Michael.mcglashon@comcast.net

Ph: 618 783 9331



















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Re: NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Gene
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 6:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

I turned off all the settings I thought might cause this behavior but when I
open up an editable document, I still hear document editable. You may need
to use the speech dictionary to stop this behavior.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Hi all
Some of my friend told me that their NVDA read: edit read-only each time
they press up / down arrows to navigate line by line in Microsoft Office
Word, but I didn't see this in my NVDA so don't know why, and how to
make NVDA not read this. If you know how to config NVDA to ignore that
message, please show me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Re: NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Gene
 

I turned off all the settings I thought might cause this behavior but when I open up an editable document, I still hear document editable. You may need to use the speech dictionary to stop this behavior.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

Hi all
Some of my friend told me that their NVDA read: edit read-only each time
they press up / down arrows to navigate line by line in Microsoft Office
Word, but I didn't see this in my NVDA so don't know why, and how to
make NVDA not read this. If you know how to config NVDA to ignore that
message, please show me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Re: Does Dictation Bridge work with latest NVDA?

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Milton,

 

dictationBridge does indeed work with the latest version of NVDA.

 

We have checked the download links and they do point to the very latest version.

 

Pranav


NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

 

Hi all
Some of my friend told me that their NVDA read: edit read-only each time they press up / down arrows to navigate line by line in Microsoft Office Word, but I didn't see this in my NVDA so don't know why, and how to make NVDA not read this. If you know how to config NVDA to ignore that message, please show me.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

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Điện thoại: 028-7302-4488
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Re: NVDA and outlook questions

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

There is no outlook setting I know of where I have to adjust it for the screen reader to properly read other screen readers read it. so should NVDA.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 12:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions


I think there is a setting.
You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked.
I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour.
David G.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions



I have the setting

Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions





This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook.
I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed



whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K.







I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you
need to turn on?



Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at
least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to
go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in
contacts.



David G.



On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote:



Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the
suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who
the message is to?


Re: NVDA and outlook questions

David Griffith
 

I think there is a setting.
You need to go to, in Outlook to File then Options and then under Mail find the setting which says Automatic Name checking and make sure that that is checked.
I have this checked and if Dennis does not then this may explain the different behaviour.
David G.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 29 December 2020 03:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions

I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions



I have the setting

Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the
first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe
smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t
read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the
suggestions?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions





This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook.
I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed



whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses
beginning with K.







I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you
need to turn on?



Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at
least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to
go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in
contacts.



David G.



On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote:



Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the
suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who
the message is to?


Re: How to turn off NVDA

Meet modi
 

To turn off nvda screen reader,
Press insert key + q key combination and leave it you show one dialogue box which has three options one  exit 2, restart and three, restart with add-on disable
Press enter on exit here you you can hear one beep sound and enjoy your nvda was successfully turned off Thanks


Re: NVDA and outlook questions

Gene
 

I know of no such setting. This is very likely another instance where you have to help the screen-reader in some way by using read current line as you type. I don't know why Outlook is different, in the address bar in the browsers I use, autocomplete will read as what I type changes.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 7:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions



I have the setting

Automatic say on page load unchecked. I was able to get it to read the first suggestion but not more suggestions. Example if I type j and joe smith is first it will read that if I continue typing and type john it won’t read John smith can this be changed that it will continuously read the suggestions?



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and outlook questions





This is slightly odd as this is precisely hwat NVDA does for me in Outlook. I have just tried it and if I press K the most recent email I have typed



whose name begins with K. Pressing the down arrow reveals other addresses beginning with K.







I wonder if there is a setting in Outlook about keeping recent addresses you need to turn on?



Having said that it is also true that this feature does not, for me at least, any longer, reveal results from all your contacts. I often have to go into the to button and search in there to reveal all my addresses in contacts.



David G.



On 28/12/2020 21:56, Dennis L wrote:



Hi, I was wondering is there a way to get NVDA to automatically read the suggestions that come up when you are typing the address or persons name who the message is to?


Re: DVD ripper that works with NVDA?

 

I use the dvd audio extracter but it doesn't work with some of the more encripted disks.

Its not free though.

Goldwave also not free does cd extraction and cdbxp, as long as you install the slim one without the opencandy stuff in it works well.



On 29/12/2020 3:31 pm, John Altmeyer wrote:

        Adding to the list of very accessible freeware burning software, I suggest the following:
True Burnerv 7.0 Free September 23, 2020  from glorilogic. All there stuff is free, simple and accessible. It is an all-purpose burner.
Another Glorilogic offering is ISO Workshop v10.0 Free - September 23, 2020 Title is self explanatory.

This link leads to the download page for both of the aforementioned programs.
 https://www.glorylogic.com/download.html#professional

Lastly, an all-purpose burner,  BurnAware Free 13.9 - Nov. 2020
From Snapfiles:
You can create data discs for backup purposes, Audio CDs that can be played on any CD player as well as music discs with MP3 and WMA files to be played on a PC or compatible CD/DVD player.
BurnAware Free also supports burning of video DVDs from a VIDEO_TS folder structure as well as creation of standard disc images in .iso format.
https://www.snapfiles.com/php/sfdwnld.php?id=111510&a=7137205&loc=2


Re: How to turn off NVDA

Richard Wells
 

Bob Cavanaugh is completely correct. If NVDA is set up to run in the secure Windows environment, it will start each time elevation happens, no matter what other screen access solution is being utilized.

On 12/28/2020 2:00 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 02:21 PM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
Actually, this isn't always the case. If the option to use NVDA on the
log-on screen is checked, it annoyingly pops up on every screen that
requires administrative action, and stays there until you shut it off.
-
This is news to me, and good information to have.  Most of the folks I've worked with who are using NVDA have their systems set up to log them straight in to their desktops on system (re)start, so they're not using that setting.

Several don't even have any screen reader turn on initially by default, as they will choose one based on what it is they're about to work with first if one screen reader works with that software better than the other.

Other than what you document above, which I've never seen because that setting was not set, I have not encountered NVDA doing a self-restart once explicitly exited from.

There are a number of possibilities here, but if the situation you described is known to not have been set up, I still strongly recommend an uninstall and reinstall to see if that clears things up, and paying particular attention to the dialogs when installing so the way you want NVDA to behave is actually set up correctly.
 
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