I am currently using version 11 and have used nine for years and
didn’t have any issues. However, I do have a few questions as well.

I had to move to a Windows ten pro. Computer. A program called Sonar
and cake walk don’t work in that environment. It it possible to do
multi-track recordings in Soundforge 11 and above? I would be very
greatful to carry on this conversation off line if allowed so as not
to clog up this list with too many questions. Thanks in advance.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sean
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:12 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List

I'm using version 14 and I had no problem with this.

On 05/05/2020 10:52, Andrea Sherry wrote:

Any users of this program care to comment. When I attemp to change
some of the checkboxes in the menu NVDA does not recognise them as
checkboxes. Has anyone else had this experience? Is there a work round?
Andrea


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I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.

A good place to start, the NVDA Remote Documentation:  https://nvdaremote.com/docs/
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 01:38 PM, zahra wrote:

as i always mentioned and emphasized, 2017.2 is the best version for me!

Zahra,

First, and most importantly, there are always new members reading you for
the first time that have no idea of your history. Even though I do, even I
didn't recall that it was specifically NVDA 2017.2 where you stopped
upgrading, though I know you continue to use Windows XP. That's why it's
really important for you to repeat, when asking any question, that you are
using NVDA 2017.2 and Windows XP.

There will not be many others, if any, who read here who are in your
situation, but there may be. They would really be the only ones who could
help you with "the details" because most of us long ago went off of NVDA
2017.x and Window XP. You are using an unsupported version of both the
screen reader and Windows operating system, so what you have is what you've
got, and will continue to have, unless some existing setting that you
haven't tweaked (and may not have known about) is identified by someone else
to assist you.

But when you post without any information regarding what you are actually
using, it is the typical expectation that you are using a supported version
of NVDA and Windows by those who do not know or recall otherwise. When you
ask questions omitting that information you are going to end up getting a
lot of answers that will not be applicable to you, which is why I implore
you to routinely include the opening line: Using NVDA 2017.2 on Windows
XP

And this applies generally to everyone. It's really, really important when
asking questions on software that the software version number being used,
and the operating system it's being used under, are included.

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Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019

I am currently using version 11 and have used nine for years and didn’t
have any issues. However, I do have a few questions as well.

I had to move to a Windows ten pro. Computer. A program called Sonar
and cake walk don’t work in that environment. It it possible to do
multi-track recordings in Soundforge 11 and above? I would be very
greatful to carry on this conversation off line if allowed so as not to
clog up this list with too many questions. Thanks in advance.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sean
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:12 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List

I'm using version 14 and I had no problem with this.

On 05/05/2020 10:52, Andrea Sherry wrote:

Any users of this program care to comment. When I attemp to change
some of the checkboxes in the menu NVDA does not recognise them as
checkboxes. Has anyone else had this experience? Is there a work round?
Andrea


--


Sean

* Twitter: Friedrich Sargon <https://twitter.com/FriedrichSargon>;
* Email: seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com
<mailto:seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com>
* GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>;

I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.

I am currently using version 11 and have used nine for years and didn’t have any issues.  However, I do have a few questions as well.
I had to move to a Windows ten pro. Computer.  A program called Sonar and cake walk don’t work in that environment.  It it possible to do multi-track recordings in Soundforge 11 and above?  I would be very greatful to carry on this conversation off line if allowed so as not to clog up this list with too many questions.  Thanks in advance.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Sean
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2020 3:12 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] SoundForge Users On This List
I'm using version 14 and I had no problem with this.
On 05/05/2020 10:52, Andrea Sherry wrote:
Any users of this program care to comment. When I attemp to change
some of the checkboxes in the menu NVDA does not recognise them as
checkboxes. Has anyone else had this experience? Is there a work round?
Andrea
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* Twitter: Friedrich Sargon <https://twitter.com/FriedrichSargon>;
* Email: seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com
<mailto:seantolstoyevski@protonmail.com>
* GitHub: SeanTolstoyevski <https://github.com/SeanTolstoyevski/>; I’m student and programmer. I write often Python, sometimes Go and rare C++.
I can understand Turkish and English.

Zahra,

You do not mention the version of NVDA you are using, but I have to presume,
absent any updates, that it's an ancient one. It would still help to know.

NVDA does not generally appear to be case sensitive, and the word up,
rendered in full uppercase as UP, should still be pronounced just like
lowercase up is. Using your example: UP arrow, ENd, TAB

NVDA 2020.1 reads it as up arrow, E N d, tab. I can get why the mixed case
might do this, as the use of multiple capitals mixed with lower case is
difficult to interpret as to whether something's being styled to be read as
separate letters or not. If I change the capital E N followed by lowercase
d to uppercase E, lowercase n, uppercase D, then NVDA says En D, since En is
pronouncable, just like the letter N itself is pronounced, in English.

PhD is pronounced as P H D, just as I'd expect, and just as most readers who
see such after an individual's name would say it.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment
Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
) , September 23, 2019

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On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 09:47 AM, Marquette, Ed wrote:

The whole interpretation of a contract can turn on the presence of a capital letter, but now one has to stop reading by sentence and manually check the potentially suspect word to see if it is or is not capitalized. This is not just a good thing, it is a crucial thing.

Ed,

          Not that I'm disagreeing with your point, because I'm not, but I will say this again:  Complaining on a user group is not the way to register the need for these changes such that they will be made.

          This very issue was just discussed within the last couple of weeks.  Someone else gave the direct link to the NVDA issue on GitHub regarding same.  Those of you who want this, and I know why you want it, would be spending your time far more effectively by adding a comment to that very issue rather than complaining here.  The number of comments on a given issue in an issue tracking system is one of the primary metrics used to determine how important something is to the user community.  And the NVDA user community has the absolute luxury, and it is one, of having direct access to the issue tracking system used by NVAccess for the product.

          I am no longer going to post links to the results of archive searches.  The membership of this group must, yes, must, learn how to do effective archive searches themselves.  Searching the NVDA Group Archive. A search on the phrase "Capital Letter Recognition" gets you straight to Quentin Christensen's post giving the link to the NVDA issue.  If this is important enough to pursue, then do that search, set up a GitHub account if you don't already have one (and I'll be happy to supply step by step instructions if you need those), and click through to that issue and add your comment.  This is how things get done, and it's up to those who want them done to undertake the steps necessary.  You, in fact, were the individual to whom Quentin was responding, so this should not be news to you.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

Although I can't speak definitively, I'd have to guess that what
determines whether an acronym in all capital letters gets spoken as a
word is whether the letters in the sequence can be pronounced under
the rules of English phonotactics or not. Using your example D A X
together can be spoken as dacks. There is no way, under the rules of
English phonotactics that SPX can be pronounced as a word. It has to be rendered letter by letter.
Another example is NASA, which can be pronounced as a word, versus
LPG, which cannot.

I know of regular expressions you could use to recognize all capital
letter acronyms in a fixed number of characters, say 3 or 4 or 5, and
pronounce those as their individual letters, but I do not know how to
do this for an indeterminate number of sequential capital letters.
You'd also have to be somewhat careful about this, since it can
quickly drive you crazy if you're reading a document that has lots of
pronouncable acronyms and you end up having them broken into letters
every time. It would drive me insane to hear NASA pronounced as N A S
A were I reading anything that refers to the U.S. National
Aeronautical and Space Administration repeatedly by its well-known acronym.
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Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its
platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.*

~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine
Sentiment Took Hold in the United States (
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/23/health/anti-vaccination-movement-us.html
s.com
) , September 23, 2019