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Re: getting nvda running again

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,
 
I’ll give this another try and see what happens. I didn’t change the output or anything like that.
 
Rosemarie
 
 
 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
Chiming in a bit late here, but I just tried this myself.  After setting SVOX Pico as my voice, that worked fine - I then opened the synthesizer dialog - NVDA+control+s and chose eSpeak NG and it switched back fine.  I can jump back and forth between them and it hasn't caused any problems.  I'm running Windows 10 latest fast insider build 15019 and NVDA 2016.4.
 
If you try it again and have problems, I'd love to see a log (ideally set to debug level) if you could - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps 
 
Otherwise, I wonder when you changed the syntheiszer, could you have changed the "output device" which is on the same screen and very well could cause NVDA to stop speaking if you set it incorrectly (for the most part you shouldn't need to adjust the output device).
 
(And yes, please disregard my other reply to your blank message - I hadn't seen this one when I wrote that).
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, Gene,
 
Thanks very much for this tip. I’ll remember it in the future if that happens again.
 
Rosemarie
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
We don't know what was done to try to start NVDA with e-speak again.  If this hasn't been done, try running NVDA.  Issue the command control shift s.  Then type the letter e and press enter.  What happens.  Also, if you let narrator run and run NVDA, you will know if pressing e takes you to the correct synthesizer choice.  If you lose speech in NVDA and want to work with NVDA settings, you can leave Narrator on wile working with NVDA settings. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 

Hi

 

does the portable version start up at all? if so and it does but does not speak you could try the following.

 

press the ctrl +nvda key + the letter S keys When the synth settings come up press the letter E so it gets back to the E speak synth.

then tab down to the ok button it is about 3 tabs. If the voice come back then save the settings.

 

Gene nz

 

 


On 30/01/2017 11:05 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I forgot to mention that I’m using narrator to write this message.
 
 
 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
Hi, everyone,
 
Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?
 
Thanks so much for your help in advance.
 
Rosemarie
 
P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.
 
 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


 
--
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Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: getting nvda running again

Quentin Christensen
 

Chiming in a bit late here, but I just tried this myself.  After setting SVOX Pico as my voice, that worked fine - I then opened the synthesizer dialog - NVDA+control+s and chose eSpeak NG and it switched back fine.  I can jump back and forth between them and it hasn't caused any problems.  I'm running Windows 10 latest fast insider build 15019 and NVDA 2016.4.

If you try it again and have problems, I'd love to see a log (ideally set to debug level) if you could - see https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps 

Otherwise, I wonder when you changed the syntheiszer, could you have changed the "output device" which is on the same screen and very well could cause NVDA to stop speaking if you set it incorrectly (for the most part you shouldn't need to adjust the output device).

(And yes, please disregard my other reply to your blank message - I hadn't seen this one when I wrote that).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, Gene,
 
Thanks very much for this tip. I’ll remember it in the future if that happens again.
 
Rosemarie
 
 
 
From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
We don't know what was done to try to start NVDA with e-speak again.  If this hasn't been done, try running NVDA.  Issue the command control shift s.  Then type the letter e and press enter.  What happens.  Also, if you let narrator run and run NVDA, you will know if pressing e takes you to the correct synthesizer choice.  If you lose speech in NVDA and want to work with NVDA settings, you can leave Narrator on wile working with NVDA settings. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 

Hi

 

does the portable version start up at all? if so and it does but does not speak you could try the following.

 

press the ctrl +nvda key + the letter S keys When the synth settings come up press the letter E so it gets back to the E speak synth.

then tab down to the ok button it is about 3 tabs. If the voice come back then save the settings.

 

Gene nz

 

 


On 30/01/2017 11:05 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I forgot to mention that I’m using narrator to write this message.
 
 
 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
Hi, everyone,
 
Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?
 
Thanks so much for your help in advance.
 
Rosemarie
 
P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.
 
 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Is this possible to do with speech, or with a braille display?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


Thanks.
 
I'll take a look.
 
Chris.
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is this possible to do with speech, or with a braille display?

Hi Chris,

I haven't looked into this until just now, but I came up with a few things below which look promising.

I haven't seen sites with sheet music myself, but my thought it that the easiest way to display it visually for sighted users, is probably as an image, in which case, it would need to go through not just an OCR process, but one that knows how to put the music back together (not just pull the letters it finds out).

I just had a quick look about.  The OCR add-in for NVDA uses Tesseract.  In itself, it can't read sheet music, but there is another program called AudioVeris, an open source music OCR program (which also uses Tesseract OCR) which can convert printed or image music to MusicXML.

I also turned up a program called Musescore, a site / program where you can create and read sheet music: https://musescore.org/en  It has a page on accessibility and how to use it with screen readers, including NVDA: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/accessibility

The other link I found for you which might be of interest, is a (Word) document from the RNIB on ways of reading sheet music: https://www.rnib.org.uk/sites/default/files/Access_to_music_notation.docx

it appears to have been created or last updated this month so should be up to date.

Hopefully, in all those, there will be something which can help you!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, guys, I'll admit this is sort of off topic, but not really.  Normally, this question probably would be better suited on something like Midimag, which I am not a part of, but seeing that I am asking specifically in relation to how to do this with NVDA, I think it would be on topic, so, forgive me for kind of the gray area here.
 
What I'm trying to do is, I have Windows 10 with NVDA 2016.4. I also have both a 20 cell, as well as another 80 cell display.
 
Essentially, I'm curious if anyone on here plays acoustic, or electric guitar. If so, are there any ways as a blind person, with the aid of NVDA specifically, that one could go online, and accessibly read the guitar tabliture for a song?
 
I know normally, in print, it's my understanding that tabs are represented by lines for the strings, and I'm not sure what... maybe dots for the fingers? I've never had enough vision to see one.
 
So, yeah. What I want to be able to get out of this is what fingers go on what strings and what frets, and also what the strumming pattern would be. For instance, is it your standard rock pattern? Down, down up, up down, or is it more a waltz, pick, strum, strum, or what exactly.
 
Please knote, I am not wanting to know with NVDA if it's possible to read digital braille music notation. I already know that is extremely doable, though I do not know how to read it.
 
What I'm! after is, is it possible to read specifically guitar tab charts, and if so, how would I go about getting started with NVDA both with speech, and with braill output, to learn how to do this.
 
Thank you.
 
Chris.




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: getting nvda up and running again

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,
 
My question was about getting NVDA to run again. I did get the problem solved by going to run with windows R and hitting enter, arrowing down to the percent ap data folder and deleting the NVDA folder. Once I did that, NVDA started working again. I’m using windows live mail so when I reply to a message, I have to hit alt M and enter for NVDA to see the message body. Sorry about the message being blank.
 
Rosemarie
 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda up and running again
 
Hi Rosemarie,
 
Your message came through to me as blank, so I wasn't sure if the subject (getting NVDA up and running again) indicated that you were coming back to the group / program and just saying hi, or that you are having trouble with it.
 
if the former - Hi! - If the latter, please do post again with your question.
 
Kind regards
 
Quentin.
 
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
 


 
--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: getting nvda up and running again

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Rosemarie,

Your message came through to me as blank, so I wasn't sure if the subject (getting NVDA up and running again) indicated that you were coming back to the group / program and just saying hi, or that you are having trouble with it.

if the former - Hi! - If the latter, please do post again with your question.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Is this possible to do with speech, or with a braille display?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Chris,

I haven't looked into this until just now, but I came up with a few things below which look promising.

I haven't seen sites with sheet music myself, but my thought it that the easiest way to display it visually for sighted users, is probably as an image, in which case, it would need to go through not just an OCR process, but one that knows how to put the music back together (not just pull the letters it finds out).

I just had a quick look about.  The OCR add-in for NVDA uses Tesseract.  In itself, it can't read sheet music, but there is another program called AudioVeris, an open source music OCR program (which also uses Tesseract OCR) which can convert printed or image music to MusicXML.

I also turned up a program called Musescore, a site / program where you can create and read sheet music: https://musescore.org/en  It has a page on accessibility and how to use it with screen readers, including NVDA: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/accessibility

The other link I found for you which might be of interest, is a (Word) document from the RNIB on ways of reading sheet music: https://www.rnib.org.uk/sites/default/files/Access_to_music_notation.docx

it appears to have been created or last updated this month so should be up to date.

Hopefully, in all those, there will be something which can help you!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:
OK, guys, I'll admit this is sort of off topic, but not really.  Normally, this question probably would be better suited on something like Midimag, which I am not a part of, but seeing that I am asking specifically in relation to how to do this with NVDA, I think it would be on topic, so, forgive me for kind of the gray area here.
 
What I'm trying to do is, I have Windows 10 with NVDA 2016.4. I also have both a 20 cell, as well as another 80 cell display.
 
Essentially, I'm curious if anyone on here plays acoustic, or electric guitar. If so, are there any ways as a blind person, with the aid of NVDA specifically, that one could go online, and accessibly read the guitar tabliture for a song?
 
I know normally, in print, it's my understanding that tabs are represented by lines for the strings, and I'm not sure what... maybe dots for the fingers? I've never had enough vision to see one.
 
So, yeah. What I want to be able to get out of this is what fingers go on what strings and what frets, and also what the strumming pattern would be. For instance, is it your standard rock pattern? Down, down up, up down, or is it more a waltz, pick, strum, strum, or what exactly.
 
Please knote, I am not wanting to know with NVDA if it's possible to read digital braille music notation. I already know that is extremely doable, though I do not know how to read it.
 
What I'm! after is, is it possible to read specifically guitar tab charts, and if so, how would I go about getting started with NVDA both with speech, and with braill output, to learn how to do this.
 
Thank you.
 
Chris.




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: getting nvda running again

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,
 
Thanks very much for this tip. I’ll remember it in the future if that happens again.
 
Rosemarie
 
 
 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
We don't know what was done to try to start NVDA with e-speak again.  If this hasn't been done, try running NVDA.  Issue the command control shift s.  Then type the letter e and press enter.  What happens.  Also, if you let narrator run and run NVDA, you will know if pressing e takes you to the correct synthesizer choice.  If you lose speech in NVDA and want to work with NVDA settings, you can leave Narrator on wile working with NVDA settings. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 

Hi

 

does the portable version start up at all? if so and it does but does not speak you could try the following.

 

press the ctrl +nvda key + the letter S keys When the synth settings come up press the letter E so it gets back to the E speak synth.

then tab down to the ok button it is about 3 tabs. If the voice come back then save the settings.

 

Gene nz

 

 


On 30/01/2017 11:05 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I forgot to mention that I’m using narrator to write this message.
 
 
 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
Hi, everyone,
 
Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?
 
Thanks so much for your help in advance.
 
Rosemarie
 
P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.
 
 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: NVDA goes haywire!

Arlene
 

Hey, before you do a system restore. Why not uninstall Mathplayer and see if that was the culprit? If it is. then Mathplayer does do something to NVDA.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Damien Sykes-Lindley
Sent: January-28-17 11:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA goes haywire!

 

Hi there,

For some reason, NVDA went completely barmy a few minutes ago. It seemed to happen after I installed MathPlayer. It happens sometimes when I run other programs as well, but not to such a degree.

NVDA read literally little to none of the screen I was in. It would read the desktop, but not the taskbar or system tray. If I went into regedit it would read the value list but not the keys tree. The start menu would read the search box field and nothing else (not even suggestions). The control panel would not read at all. And the only single word I got when I went into Windows Explorer, was pane.

I have never experienced this before and so literally, the only thing I could think to do to fix the issue was to do a system restore. That seemed to work, suggesting that it’s some sort of system change that caused this.

Are there any known issues that could cause NVDA to do this? More importantly, is there anything I can do to rectify the situation short of doing a system restore?

For the record, I’m on NVDA 2016.4, and windows 7 64-bit.

Cheers.

Damien.


Re: getting nvda running again

Gene
 

We don't know what was done to try to start NVDA with e-speak again.  If this hasn't been done, try running NVDA.  Issue the command control shift s.  Then type the letter e and press enter.  What happens.  Also, if you let narrator run and run NVDA, you will know if pressing e takes you to the correct synthesizer choice.  If you lose speech in NVDA and want to work with NVDA settings, you can leave Narrator on wile working with NVDA settings. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again

Hi


does the portable version start up at all? if so and it does but does not speak you could try the following.


press the ctrl +nvda key + the letter S keys When the synth settings come up press the letter E so it gets back to the E speak synth.

then tab down to the ok button it is about 3 tabs. If the voice come back then save the settings.


Gene nz




On 30/01/2017 11:05 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I forgot to mention that I’m using narrator to write this message.
 
 
 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
Hi, everyone,
 
Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?
 
Thanks so much for your help in advance.
 
Rosemarie
 
P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.
 
 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: getting nvda running again

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene NZ,
 
I deleted the NVDA folder in the percent data ap and that solved the problem. NVDA is working great now. Thank you all for your help.
 
Rosemarie
 
 
 

From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 

Hi

 

does the portable version start up at all? if so and it does but does not speak you could try the following.

 

press the ctrl +nvda key + the letter S keys When the synth settings come up press the letter E so it gets back to the E speak synth.

then tab down to the ok button it is about 3 tabs. If the voice come back then save the settings.

 

Gene nz

 

 


On 30/01/2017 11:05 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I forgot to mention that I’m using narrator to write this message.
 
 
 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
Hi, everyone,
 
Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?
 
Thanks so much for your help in advance.
 
Rosemarie
 
P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.
 
 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: getting nvda running again

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Shaun,

Thanks very much. It worked.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 2:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting nvda running again

Well firstly, I'd start narator and exit nvda, once you do that I'd go
to %appdata% in run winkey and r and then I'd find the nvda folder and
then I'd delete it.
You will loose all your settings but it will be ok.
I do wander if anyone else can emulate this, because it could be a bug.



On 30/01/2017 10:53 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,

Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?

Thanks so much for your help in advance.

Rosemarie

P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.


Re: getting nvda running again

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


does the portable version start up at all? if so and it does but does not speak you could try the following.


press the ctrl +nvda key + the letter S keys When the synth settings come up press the letter E so it gets back to the E speak synth.

then tab down to the ok button it is about 3 tabs. If the voice come back then save the settings.


Gene nz




On 30/01/2017 11:05 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I forgot to mention that I’m using narrator to write this message.
 
 
 
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
Hi, everyone,
 
Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?
 
Thanks so much for your help in advance.
 
Rosemarie
 
P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.
 
 

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: getting nvda running again

 

Well firstly, I'd start narator and exit nvda, once you do that I'd go to %appdata% in run winkey and r and then I'd find the nvda folder and then I'd delete it.
You will loose all your settings but it will be ok.
I do wander if anyone else can emulate this, because it could be a bug.

On 30/01/2017 10:53 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,

Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?

Thanks so much for your help in advance.

Rosemarie

P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.


Re: getting nvda running again

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I forgot to mention that I’m using narrator to write this message.
 
 
 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] getting nvda running again
 
Hi, everyone,
 
Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?
 
Thanks so much for your help in advance.
 
Rosemarie
 
P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.
 
 


getting nvda running again

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,
 
Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?
 
Thanks so much for your help in advance.
 
Rosemarie
 
P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.
 
 


getting nvda up and running again

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

 


Is this possible to do with speech, or with a braille display?

Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
 


OK, guys, I'll admit this is sort of off topic, but not really.  Normally, this question probably would be better suited on something like Midimag, which I am not a part of, but seeing that I am asking specifically in relation to how to do this with NVDA, I think it would be on topic, so, forgive me for kind of the gray area here.
 
What I'm trying to do is, I have Windows 10 with NVDA 2016.4. I also have both a 20 cell, as well as another 80 cell display.
 
Essentially, I'm curious if anyone on here plays acoustic, or electric guitar. If so, are there any ways as a blind person, with the aid of NVDA specifically, that one could go online, and accessibly read the guitar tabliture for a song?
 
I know normally, in print, it's my understanding that tabs are represented by lines for the strings, and I'm not sure what... maybe dots for the fingers? I've never had enough vision to see one.
 
So, yeah. What I want to be able to get out of this is what fingers go on what strings and what frets, and also what the strumming pattern would be. For instance, is it your standard rock pattern? Down, down up, up down, or is it more a waltz, pick, strum, strum, or what exactly.
 
Please knote, I am not wanting to know with NVDA if it's possible to read digital braille music notation. I already know that is extremely doable, though I do not know how to read it.
 
What I'm! after is, is it possible to read specifically guitar tab charts, and if so, how would I go about getting started with NVDA both with speech, and with braill output, to learn how to do this.
 
Thank you.
 
Chris.


Re: Real quick question about chicken Nugget

 

yup! it will not only copy your keymap, but also your registered twitter accounts saved timelines, settings, etc.

Noah Carver

On Jan 29, 2017, at 08:30, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

Wo! That'll even activate it? Now that! is nice!
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Real quick question about chicken Nugget

Oh god. Don't get me ranting about Q. Anyway, this should work to copy your key map, preferences, and activation info..


1. Press Windows + R to open up the run dialog.

2. Type the following in, without quotes: "%appdata%"

3. Locate the Chicken Nugget folder.

4. Copy it to any removable media, such as a flash drive.

5. On your other computer, open run and type the same command mentioned in step 2.

6Paste the folder from your flash drive into this folder.

7. Not only will copying this folder give you your keymap, but it will also give you your activation, and all of your preferences / settings from your other computer. Hope this helps.


Cheers,

Noah Carver
On 1/28/2017 10:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
At least I know it's not just me he doesn't answer.
 
Anyway... enough said on that front.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Real quick question about chicken Nugget

Can't help with your question but I can confirm that this is normal behavior for Christopher. I've written him about some tech support questions in the past and get absolutely no response so in future, just don't bother.  That's the way he rolls.

Roger










On 1/26/2017 6:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
I've written Christopher Toth about this many many times, and never get any response, hince why I'm asking here. I don't plan to continue this thread, and all mods are welcome to lock this thread after a time period. I only kindly ask that you at least give it 24 hours from the point of you seeing it before you do so. If by then, I've gotten no  responses, I'll write you all privately, and we can reevaluate the thread as needed.
 
Anyway, here's the deal. I have two Windows 10 computers, of which one is Running Chicken Nugget. The other is not running any Twitter client yet, which lead me to my question.
 
On the one PC that is! running it, I have customized the keymap for the invisible interface, not really tremendously, but definitely to a point. There are about 7 or 8 things I changed, and a few things I mapped that were not mapped at all to start with.
 
I do not see a way within the keymap manager by hitting CTRL+K while in the GUI, to export, nor import a keymap.
 
What I'm curious of is, If I install CN on my secondary machine, and then activate it with my serial, if I then turn around on the other system, go to program files, then to the CN directory, are there any files, or dll's, or whatever which hold that keymap that I could copy to a thumb drive, then copy over, over writing the files already there, and get that keymap up and running as I like it without me having to redo it by hand? I don't remember everything I changed, as a lot of it I do so second nature, that I can't remember if it was the default or not.
 
I'm just trying to think the easiest way to do this without breaking things along the way.
 
As I said, I wrote Christopher Toth, but he never responds, and this is about the 4th or 5th time over a 2 month period I've written him.
 
Chris.




Re: Problem

Gene
 

I haven't had to install anything in XP or Windows 7.  I couldn't use most of the features of the card but it would play.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem

Sakina,

  • USB sound cards are small dongles that plug in to a USB port and typically have a headphone port and a microphone port for 1/8" jack connections.  On Windows 8 and later most are "plug and play" devices while on Windows 7 and earlier you'll likely have to install a device driver.  For examples, and to see how inexpensive they are, have a look at this webpage (and I cannot attest to its accessibility):  http://www.dxsoul.com/search/USB%20sound%20card
  • USB headphones are, as you suspected, just like regular headphones but instead of having an 1/8" jack it has a USB connector.  These are plugged in to a USB port and behave like typical headphones.  These are inexpensive as well.  That being said, they're getting somewhat harder to find as wireless bluetooth headsets have become much more popular and are quite inexpensive if you're not looking for audiophile quality sound.  If your computer doesn't have Bluetooth built in then you'd need to buy a USB Bluetooth Adapter (see:  http://www.dxsoul.com/search/USB%20bluetooth%20dongle) and these are very inexpensive.

--
Brian

    If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

        ~ Thomas Reed Powell



Re: Problem

Gene
 

You can buy a USB soundcard and plug it into a USB port as any USB device.  There will be one or more jacks and one of them will be an output for sound.  If all you want to do is listen and not use most or all other features of the card, you don't even have to install the software that should come with the sound card on a cd.  I don't know where you live or what prices for things are there.  In United States dollars, you can find sound cards for less than ten dollars, according to what I've seen in discussions of the subject.  I don't know how good the sound is but in American dollars, the cheap ones don't cost much.  But don't forget that the volume will be loud when you plug the headphones in for the first time.  So don't wear the headphones.  The volume is probably loud enough that you can hear them without having them on and it might be very loud to have them on, perhaps painfully loud.  Do you know how to lower the volume on devices?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Sakina
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem

Hello Gean and friends,

Thank you all for the quick response.

I am using ordinary headphones.

I am sorry for for not having any knowledge of usb headphones nor the usb sound card, nor have no idea of the cost of either.

If I do get for argument sake the sound card, will I need someone to help me there.

As usb headphones sounds like I can plug them in the usb pot.

Please I will very much appreciate your guidance.

Thanking you always

Sakina    

 

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 10:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem

 

When I saw the original message, I thought they were probably ordinary headphones.  I didn't remember the original wording but perhaps that was why. 

 

I don't know about what variety there is in USB headphones.  But one thing I like about the USB sound card idea is that, if the person wants to continue using the headphones currently being used, they can be used with the external sound card.  If they are good headphones, buying an inexpensive soundcard and continuing to use the good headphones might be cheaper than buying another good pair of USB headphones. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel

Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2017 1:40 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem

 

On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:48 am, Gene wrote:

The kind of headphones wasn't specified.

True, but when the descriptor "ordinary headphones" and phrase "still attached" are used together that leads to the logical conclusion that 1/8" jack headphones are being talked about.

I figure the most likely option and then, if the user has omitted something, they'll bring it up when the responses start pouring in.  I'll be curious to see what the ultimate resolution turns out to be.
--
Brian

    If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

        ~ Thomas Reed Powell

 




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