----- Original Message -----

From: Quentin Christensen

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 5:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Is this possible to do with speech, or with a braille display?

Hi Chris,

I haven't looked into this until just now, but I came up with a few things below which look promising.

I haven't seen sites with sheet music myself, but my thought it that the easiest way to display it visually for sighted users, is probably as an image, in which case, it would need to go through not just an OCR process, but one that knows how to put the music back together (not just pull the letters it finds out).

I just had a quick look about.  The OCR add-in for NVDA uses Tesseract.  In itself, it can't read sheet music, but there is another program called AudioVeris, an open source music OCR program (which also uses Tesseract OCR) which can convert printed or image music to MusicXML.

I also turned up a program called Musescore, a site / program where you can create and read sheet music: https://musescore.org/en  It has a page on accessibility and how to use it with screen readers, including NVDA: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/accessibility

The other link I found for you which might be of interest, is a (Word) document from the RNIB on ways of reading sheet music: https://www.rnib.org.uk/sites/default/files/Access_to_music_notation.docx

it appears to have been created or last updated this month so should be up to date.

Hopefully, in all those, there will be something which can help you!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...> wrote:

OK, guys, I'll admit this is sort of off topic, but not really.  Normally, this question probably would be better suited on something like Midimag, which I am not a part of, but seeing that I am asking specifically in relation to how to do this with NVDA, I think it would be on topic, so, forgive me for kind of the gray area here.

 

What I'm trying to do is, I have Windows 10 with NVDA 2016.4. I also have both a 20 cell, as well as another 80 cell display.

 

Essentially, I'm curious if anyone on here plays acoustic, or electric guitar. If so, are there any ways as a blind person, with the aid of NVDA specifically, that one could go online, and accessibly read the guitar tabliture for a song?

 

I know normally, in print, it's my understanding that tabs are represented by lines for the strings, and I'm not sure what... maybe dots for the fingers? I've never had enough vision to see one.

 

So, yeah. What I want to be able to get out of this is what fingers go on what strings and what frets, and also what the strumming pattern would be. For instance, is it your standard rock pattern? Down, down up, up down, or is it more a waltz, pick, strum, strum, or what exactly.

 

Please knote, I am not wanting to know with NVDA if it's possible to read digital braille music notation. I already know that is extremely doable, though I do not know how to read it.

 

What I'm! after is, is it possible to read specifically guitar tab charts, and if so, how would I go about getting started with NVDA both with speech, and with braill output, to learn how to do this.

 

Thank you.

 

Chris.

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Hi

does the portable version start up at all? if so and it does but does not speak you could try the following.

press the ctrl +nvda key + the letter S keys When the synth settings come up press the letter E so it gets back to the E speak synth.

then tab down to the ok button it is about 3 tabs. If the voice come back then save the settings.

Gene nz

I forgot to mention that I’m using narrator to write this message.

 

 

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 1:53 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] getting nvda running again

 

Hi, everyone,

 

Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?

 

Thanks so much for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.

 

 

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Hi, everyone,

Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?

Thanks so much for your help in advance.

Rosemarie

P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.

Hi, everyone,

Earlier today I installed the portable synth svox pico thinking it would work with windows 10. When I tried to go back to the espeak voice, nvda wouldn’t switch to espeak. How do I get it back again?

Thanks so much for your help in advance.

Rosemarie

P.S. Sorry about the first message being blank.

Wo! That'll even activate it? Now that! is nice!

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Noah Carver via Groups.Io

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 7:39 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Real quick question about chicken Nugget

Oh god. Don't get me ranting about Q. Anyway, this should work to copy your key map, preferences, and activation info..

1. Press Windows + R to open up the run dialog.

2. Type the following in, without quotes: "%appdata%"

3. Locate the Chicken Nugget folder.

4. Copy it to any removable media, such as a flash drive.

5. On your other computer, open run and type the same command mentioned in step 2.

6Paste the folder from your flash drive into this folder.

7. Not only will copying this folder give you your keymap, but it will also give you your activation, and all of your preferences / settings from your other computer. Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Noah Carver

On 1/28/2017 10:00 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

At least I know it's not just me he doesn't answer.

 

Anyway... enough said on that front.

 

Chris.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Roger Stewart

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:53 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Real quick question about chicken Nugget

Can't help with your question but I can confirm that this is normal behavior for Christopher. I've written him about some tech support questions in the past and get absolutely no response so in future, just don't bother.  That's the way he rolls.

Roger










On 1/26/2017 6:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I've written Christopher Toth about this many many times, and never get any response, hince why I'm asking here. I don't plan to continue this thread, and all mods are welcome to lock this thread after a time period. I only kindly ask that you at least give it 24 hours from the point of you seeing it before you do so. If by then, I've gotten no  responses, I'll write you all privately, and we can reevaluate the thread as needed.

 

Anyway, here's the deal. I have two Windows 10 computers, of which one is Running Chicken Nugget. The other is not running any Twitter client yet, which lead me to my question.

 

On the one PC that is! running it, I have customized the keymap for the invisible interface, not really tremendously, but definitely to a point. There are about 7 or 8 things I changed, and a few things I mapped that were not mapped at all to start with.

 

I do not see a way within the keymap manager by hitting CTRL+K while in the GUI, to export, nor import a keymap.

 

What I'm curious of is, If I install CN on my secondary machine, and then activate it with my serial, if I then turn around on the other system, go to program files, then to the CN directory, are there any files, or dll's, or whatever which hold that keymap that I could copy to a thumb drive, then copy over, over writing the files already there, and get that keymap up and running as I like it without me having to redo it by hand? I don't remember everything I changed, as a lot of it I do so second nature, that I can't remember if it was the default or not.

 

I'm just trying to think the easiest way to do this without breaking things along the way.

 

As I said, I wrote Christopher Toth, but he never responds, and this is about the 4th or 5th time over a 2 month period I've written him.

 

Chris.

Sakina,

• USB sound cards are small dongles that plug in to a USB port and typically have a headphone port and a microphone port for 1/8" jack connections.  On Windows 8 and later most are "plug and play" devices while on Windows 7 and earlier you'll likely have to install a device driver.  For examples, and to see how inexpensive they are, have a look at this webpage (and I cannot attest to its accessibility):  http://www.dxsoul.com/search/USB%20sound%20card
• USB headphones are, as you suspected, just like regular headphones but instead of having an 1/8" jack it has a USB connector.  These are plugged in to a USB port and behave like typical headphones.  These are inexpensive as well.  That being said, they're getting somewhat harder to find as wireless bluetooth headsets have become much more popular and are quite inexpensive if you're not looking for audiophile quality sound.  If your computer doesn't have Bluetooth built in then you'd need to buy a USB Bluetooth Adapter (see:  http://www.dxsoul.com/search/USB%20bluetooth%20dongle) and these are very inexpensive.

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Brian

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