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Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Sorry i can not help you there..


There is contact details for the person on the page that could give you more information.


When i listened to a earlier version of the windows PE it if i remember right was from a clean install.


there are other utilities in the program that can do different things, but have not put it to a test the way you said.


I couldive used this program a month ago when my hard drive died, but i had not burned the image to a disk


On 16/12/2016 3:29 PM, Douglas Lawlor wrote:
HI Gene, 

Thank you for this. I have an image that I made using the backup option in the control panel. I forget what the actual name of the system utility I used but I think it was Windows backup. Can I use your environment to restore this type of an image?

Thanks again, 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi



the package Gene is talking about can be found off my nvda tutorials for other programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

The heading you are looking for is Windows 10 PE (Preinstallation Environment) enabling independent Windows installation for blind users


usually your first boot device is a Cd so if a CD version is done you should be right. otherwise if your pc supports usb boot and it is set you can do it that way, but usually not set in a bios.


Gene nz



On 16/12/2016 3:00 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Donating During Update

Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

Hi David

I have a monthly donation set up, so usually choose the "do not donate at this time" option, or something along those lines when downloading an update. Since the donation options are radio buttons, When in browse mode, using r and shift+r moves between the donation options. I think this makes for easier navigation and will read only the option you are on at any given time.

Hope this helps somewhat.

Jacques

On 16 Dec 2016 10:24, David Griffith wrote:
I wonder if the donation page during update could be looked at an
simplified.



On Firefox the donation options are not read as discrete options
unless you use control keys with arrow keys, and to my deaf ears at
leazst it is confusing as all the suggested amounts of donations are
initially read out as a single strihng which is a little overwhelming
and scary as some of the suggested amounts are pretty considerable.

To my ears at least the check box for the amount is not clear – does it
relate to the amount before or after the amount etc.

It is a little anxiety making and does not feel quite safe and the worry
is that you are to donate an amount you cannot afford.

More importantly on a couple of occasion this has meant I have checked
the wrong amount when trying to donate and again on my system once a
check box is check is seems impossible to uncheck it. Pressing space or
enter does not seem possible to amend this once it has been entered.



This has twice meant that I have pulled out of the donation page when I
genuinely wanted to donate.



The behaviour of the page which would feel safe to me would be to cursor
down and hear each donation option as a separate option with a clear
safe option to check or uncheck the amount you are committing, rather
than only being able to review by hearing whole sections of the page
read out.

My inability to complete this page is probably down to my own ineptitude
and user error but I would have thought that a donation page at least
should be ultra straightforward and easy to complete.

Just a suggestions.



David Griffith



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10




Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Have you tried installing a good working copy of nvda to see if you get the same results?

If the portable version works well and the installer version doesn't then you can look at other things.


You would most probably have to download a fresh copy of nvda from the net then make a portable copy. then if that one is ok and the installer version is causing problems, then maybe look at fully uninstalling the installer copy.


i can give you directions on how to do that.


maybe some thing has got corrupted in the nvda.ini file? in the installer version.


Does pressing the alt + ctrl + N keys restart nvda and it works properly.


Have you also tried nvda with all add ons disabled just in case one is causing the problem.


which synth are you using? the synth package might be causing the problem. I remember a synth package i used one time called via voice out loud keaped


have you also tried resetting nvda back to factory defaults?


Gene nz



On crashing every so offen and you would get windows explorer etc dieing.


 16/12/2016 3:29 PM, Douglas Lawlor wrote:
HI Gene, 

Thank you for this. I have an image that I made using the backup option in the control panel. I forget what the actual name of the system utility I used but I think it was Windows backup. Can I use your environment to restore this type of an image?

Thanks again, 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi



the package Gene is talking about can be found off my nvda tutorials for other programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

The heading you are looking for is Windows 10 PE (Preinstallation Environment) enabling independent Windows installation for blind users


usually your first boot device is a Cd so if a CD version is done you should be right. otherwise if your pc supports usb boot and it is set you can do it that way, but usually not set in a bios.


Gene nz



On 16/12/2016 3:00 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Sorry i can not help you there..


There is contact details for the person on the page that could give you more information.


When i listened to a earlier version of the windows PE it if i remember right was from a clean install.


there are other utilities in the program that can do different things, but have not put it to a test the way you said.


I couldive used this program a month ago when my hard drive died, but i had not burned the image to a disk at that time so i could do it.


can you not roll back a period of time? if i get into trouble very rare and can not be fixed or it goes weird etc if i can not fix it then i will roll it back and the problem goes away.


I also take note of what the program caused the problem if i can.


Gene nz



On 16/12/2016 3:29 PM, Douglas Lawlor wrote:
HI Gene, 

Thank you for this. I have an image that I made using the backup option in the control panel. I forget what the actual name of the system utility I used but I think it was Windows backup. Can I use your environment to restore this type of an image?

Thanks again, 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi



the package Gene is talking about can be found off my nvda tutorials for other programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

The heading you are looking for is Windows 10 PE (Preinstallation Environment) enabling independent Windows installation for blind users


usually your first boot device is a Cd so if a CD version is done you should be right. otherwise if your pc supports usb boot and it is set you can do it that way, but usually not set in a bios.


Gene nz



On 16/12/2016 3:00 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Donating During Update

David Griffith
 

I wonder if the donation page during update could be looked at an simplified.

 

On Firefox the donation options are not read as discrete options   unless you use control keys with arrow keys, and to my deaf ears at leazst it is confusing as all the suggested amounts of donations are initially read out as a single strihng  which is a little overwhelming and scary as some of the suggested amounts are pretty considerable.

To my ears at least the check box for the amount is not clear – does it relate to the amount before or after the amount etc.

It is a little anxiety making and does not feel quite safe and the worry is that you are to donate an amount you cannot afford.

More importantly on a couple of occasion  this has meant I have checked the wrong amount when trying to donate  and again on my system once a check box is check is seems impossible to uncheck it. Pressing space or enter does not seem possible to amend this once it has been entered.

 

This has twice meant that I have pulled out of the donation page when I genuinely wanted to donate.

 

The behaviour of the page which would feel safe to me would be to cursor down and hear each donation option as a separate option  with a clear safe option to check or uncheck the amount you are committing, rather than only being able to review by hearing whole sections of the page read out.

My inability to complete this page is probably down to my own ineptitude  and user error but I would have thought that a donation page at least should be ultra straightforward and easy to complete.

Just a suggestions.

 

David Griffith

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

 

Yes look in control setup for hw setup thats the bios config.

On 16/12/2016 3:12 p.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:

I have a Toshiba C70 here. Are you saying that there is an accessible way to do this with a Toshiba?

Thanks,

Doug


Douglas Lawlor
Email: @douglawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Douglas Lawlor <@douglawlor> wrote:


I've got someone to help me fix it. It is just so frustrating when these things happen and you are down for a day until you can get someone to help you.

Doug


Douglas Lawlor
Email: @douglawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment. There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows. they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA. But I don't know enough about this to tell you more. No one has said anything about this in the discussion. perhaps they will now.

but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting.

gene
----- Originaal Message -----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
Hello Brian,
I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.

Doug


Douglas Lawlor
Email: @douglawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:

Doug,

Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane? It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate. I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
--
Brian

Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.

~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902






Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Ian Blackburn
 

With a laptop you will be able to do a restore from your recovery petition
This will give the machine back to you like it was brand-new
As far as I know it's not accessible to do it without cited assistance
Regards Ian

On 16 Dec 2016, at 1:49 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know enough about it to say more.  I don't see why the brand would matter.  But whether you can do it would depend on things such as if your computer is set to be able to boot from a thumb drive or whatever medium you would use.  But beyond that, I don't know enough to discuss the topic further.  I will say that there is a list, TechTalk (spelling) where the owner, who is a very competent tech, can answer questions on the topic.
 
If you are interested in joining, I can send subscription information.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10


I have a Toshiba C70 here. Are you saying that there is an accessible way to do this with a Toshiba?

Thanks, 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Douglas Lawlor <douglawlor@...> wrote:


I've got someone to help me fix it. It is just so frustrating when these things happen and you are down for a day until you can get someone to help you. 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Gene
 

I don't know enough about it to say more.  I don't see why the brand would matter.  But whether you can do it would depend on things such as if your computer is set to be able to boot from a thumb drive or whatever medium you would use.  But beyond that, I don't know enough to discuss the topic further.  I will say that there is a list, TechTalk (spelling) where the owner, who is a very competent tech, can answer questions on the topic.
 
If you are interested in joining, I can send subscription information.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10


I have a Toshiba C70 here. Are you saying that there is an accessible way to do this with a Toshiba?

Thanks, 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Douglas Lawlor <douglawlor@...> wrote:


I've got someone to help me fix it. It is just so frustrating when these things happen and you are down for a day until you can get someone to help you. 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Kenny Peyattt jr.
 

Hi From what I read on the Microsoft accessibility blog, that narrator will be able to be used during the entire setup process. But who know how long that will take Microsoft to get that working properly.

Kenny Peyatt jr.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 9:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

 

I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 

 

but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 

 

gene

----- Originaal Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

 

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


Important announcement: starting today, some add-ons will require you to upgrade to NVDA 2016.4

 

Hi everyone,

For those using 2016.3 or earlier: there will come a time when some add-ons will ask you to upgrade to NVDA 2016.4 in order for them to function. For my add-ons, I’ll enforce 2016.4 requirement from February 2017 releases:

 

·         StationPlaylist Studio: Version 17.04 (currently listed as 17.1-dev) will require 2016.4 or later. Major parts of this add-on now uses features introduced in 2016.4 (specifically, new user interface routines).

·         Windows 10 App Essentials: Version 17.02 will not run properly under NVDA 2016.3 or earlier. A critical component required to support universal apps and write app modules for them has been included in NVDA 2016.4, thus this is no longer needed in the add-on.

 

Other add-ons that will require you to use NVDA 2016.4 include upcoming versions of Place Markers, Rapid Settings, Clip Contents Designer and others. Also, an add-on called Indentone (by Derek Riemer), used to let you hear indentation via tones, is hereby deprecated and should be removed, as NVDA 2016.4 includes this feature.

 

For add-on writers: I’ll write a formal directive to the add-ons list, but the big picture is: if you are going to use graphical user interfaces such as dialogs, you should use GUI Helper services provided by NVDA 2016.4 or later. Also, you can now write app modules where executable names have a dot in the middle (for that, replace dots with underscores).

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

 

the best program for me is firefox and i downloaded it because of the
improvements in mozilla firefox!
i am very happy and i dont know how to express my happiness and appreciation!

On 12/16/16, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:
and you could have been using it for a few weeks now as the rc (release
candidate) is always the nearly final version, and not much, if anything
changes between the rc and the final. No need to be afraid of rc versions.
They don't bite.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Supanut Leepaisomboon
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr


Finally! I've been waiting for months for this release!

--
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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

Kwork
 


and you could have been using it for a few weeks now as the rc (release candidate) is always the nearly final version, and not much, if anything changes between the rc and the final. No need to be afraid of rc versions. They don't bite.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

Finally! I've been waiting for months for this release!


Re: NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

 

quentin,
thanks extremely for your great news!
i was waiting for nvda for many month and i was counting the seconds
for this great news!
i dont know how to appreciate God, you and all developers of nvda for
this release!

On 12/16/16, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Well we're happy to have made you happy in time for Christmas Supanut!
Also, if you are keen on keeping up with the very latest features in NVDA,
you don't need to wait for 2017.1, you can download a "next" or "master"
build today: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

"Next" is the very latest (and possibly not completely stable - be warned)
code.

"Master" should be more solid, with features that are intended for the next
stable release of NVDA.

Using these builds and participating in reporting bugs on GitHub helps us
solve issues and improve the next release of NVDA:
http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Of course, for most users, the stable version, currently 2016.4, is the
recommended version to use.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon <
@supanut2000> wrote:

Finally! I've been waiting for months for this release!



--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Doug Lawlor
 

HI Gene, 

Thank you for this. I have an image that I made using the backup option in the control panel. I forget what the actual name of the system utility I used but I think it was Windows backup. Can I use your environment to restore this type of an image?

Thanks again, 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:16 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi



the package Gene is talking about can be found off my nvda tutorials for other programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

The heading you are looking for is Windows 10 PE (Preinstallation Environment) enabling independent Windows installation for blind users


usually your first boot device is a Cd so if a CD version is done you should be right. otherwise if your pc supports usb boot and it is set you can do it that way, but usually not set in a bios.


Gene nz



On 16/12/2016 3:00 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

Quentin Christensen
 

Well we're happy to have made you happy in time for Christmas Supanut!  Also, if you are keen on keeping up with the very latest features in NVDA, you don't need to wait for 2017.1, you can download a "next" or "master" build today: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

"Next" is the very latest (and possibly not completely stable - be warned) code.

"Master" should be more solid, with features that are intended for the next stable release of NVDA.

Using these builds and participating in reporting bugs on GitHub helps us solve issues and improve the next release of NVDA: http://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

Of course, for most users, the stable version, currently 2016.4, is the recommended version to use.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@...> wrote:
Finally! I've been waiting for months for this release!




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Direct: +61 413 904 383
www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: How to burn a disk in Windows 10

Albert Ruel
 

In Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 I was able to burn CDs without using any third-party applications, however in windows 10 I have not been able to figure out how to do that without third-party applications. If anyone can show me how windows 10 might allow me to do it I will be most pleased to learn the steps.

Thx, Albert

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 15, 2016, at 5:56 PM, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

Well I use free cd burner xp which works for burning cds.
I brought goldwave for 40 bucks which was able to extract cds, its about all I use it for since it uses free cddb which is what nero used to use.



On 16/12/2016 11:41 a.m., Arnþór Helgason wrote:
Maybe this question has already been answared.


When I wanted to burn a cd disk with my cd-burner it doesn't seem to
work with Windows 10. What is the most accessible method to create a
music cd?


Thanks,


Arnthor Helgason



Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi



the package Gene is talking about can be found off my nvda tutorials for other programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

The heading you are looking for is Windows 10 PE (Preinstallation Environment) enabling independent Windows installation for blind users


usually your first boot device is a Cd so if a CD version is done you should be right. otherwise if your pc supports usb boot and it is set you can do it that way, but usually not set in a bios.


Gene nz



On 16/12/2016 3:00 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



-- 
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Re: NVDA 2016.4 released #nvdasr

 

Finally! I've been waiting for months for this release!


Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Doug Lawlor
 


I have a Toshiba C70 here. Are you saying that there is an accessible way to do this with a Toshiba?

Thanks, 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:07 PM, Douglas Lawlor <douglawlor@...> wrote:


I've got someone to help me fix it. It is just so frustrating when these things happen and you are down for a day until you can get someone to help you. 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>



Re: Reinstalling Windows 10

Doug Lawlor
 


I've got someone to help me fix it. It is just so frustrating when these things happen and you are down for a day until you can get someone to help you. 

Doug


Douglas Lawlor


On Dec 15, 2016, at 9:00 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I don't know enough to advise you about using an accessible reinstallation environment.  There are installation environments developed evidently by some blind users that allow you to run enough of Windows from an external source to then reinstall Windows.  they also load a screen-reader from their files, as far as I know, NVDA.  But I don't know enough about this to tell you more.  No one has said anything about this in the discussion.  perhaps they will now. 
 
but you will have to be able to boot from whatever medium you are using, such as a thumb drive and I have no idea what sources the computer currently looks at when booting. 
 
gene
----- Originaal Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2016 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reinstalling Windows 10

Well you can try a reset, to be honest though it may be time to just
take your box to a shop and ask them to reformat it for you.
I still am a firm believer that a box should run the system it was
designed for for best performance.
So if you ran xp on it it should run that or 7 well you get the picture.
I'd actually be wandering if you either have a virus or something or
simply that your hardwre has issues and it may do.


On 16/12/2016 7:33 a.m., Douglas Lawlor wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> I would do this if I could, but I cannot use the system at all in it's current state. It is taking minutes for NVDA to respond to a command which should normally take milliseconds. I just don't know what to do here. I've got no sited assistance to help me which makes this problem that much more frustrating.
>
> Doug
>
>
> Douglas Lawlor
> Email: douglawlor@...
>
>
>> On Dec 15, 2016, at 1:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
>>
>> Doug,
>>
>>           Have you considered using the Reset function under the Update & Security Settings, Recovery Pane?   It wipes the existing Win10 installation and completely reinstalls the operating system but you can choose whether to keep your files (or at least the vast majority of them) or to start with an entirely clean slate.  I never resort to an actual clean reinstallation of Windows 10 from external media until and unless a Reset has not solved the problem.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>  Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions from insufficient premises.
>>
>>          ~ Samuel Butler, 1835-1902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>